About Mage and KS in CT3

[SomTrovao 89]

If both 130,same equips...

1-who tank more in CT3 Hs? Mage or KS??

2-and who kill more in CT3 in Aoe? Mge or KS?

 

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[DarkLink64 921]

41 minutes ago, SomTrovao said:

If both 130,same equips...

1-who tank more in CT3 Hs? Mage or KS??

2-and who kill more in CT3 in Aoe? Mge or KS?

 

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1- With Shield/Orb, I Think Knight tanks better but this is a close matchup. Thats considering the mage using Energy Shield in direct comparision with Godly Shield. ES reduces 30% damage, while GS reduces 25%. Even with Drastic Spirit, a well geared Mage can have more Defense than a Knight, due to Orb. Knight wins with Shield due to block shield being higher than Orb's and more 4% additional from Divine Shield. But Magician can and will tank as good as a Knight, but the main difference being lower block and HP.

Now 2 Handed, Knight has a greater lead, Mage will lose all his defense advantage without Orbs (the main source of Defense from magic classes). But a higher level, well geared Mage + VL will tank CT3 extremely well.

2-There is no contest. Mage is the strongest AoE killer in the game, while Knight being very average on AoE killing.

Edited January 29, 2019 by DarkLink64

[SomTrovao 89]

8 hours ago, DarkLink64 said:

1- With Shield/Orb, I Think Knight tanks better but this is a close matchup. Thats considering the mage using Energy Shield in direct comparision with Godly Shield. ES reduces 30% damage, while GS reduces 25%. Even with Drastic Spirit, a well geared Mage can have more Defense than a Knight, due to Orb. Knight wins with Shield due to block shield being higher than Orb's and more 4% additional from Divine Shield. But Magician can and will tank as good as a Knight, but the main difference being lower block and HP.

Now 2 Handed, Knight has a greater lead, Mage will lose all his defense advantage without Orbs (the main source of Defense from magic classes). But a higher level, well geared Mage + VL will tank CT3 extremely well.

2-There is no contest. Mage is the strongest AoE killer in the game, while Knight being very average on AoE killing.

 

Thank you very much DarkLink,help me a lot. I dont want VL to tank because i dont have a prs 12x+,(i want just a char to hunt in Ct3)

but distortion and fire elemental maybe can help to tank a few too.

but Ks is more promising in pvp rigth? have a future,while mage i dont think at moment

thankyou again I'll think a little more, I'm about to create a new char

[DarkLink64 921]

1 hour ago, SomTrovao said:

 

Thank you very much DarkLink,help me a lot. I dont want VL to tank because i dont have a prs 12x+,(i want just a char to hunt in Ct3)

but distortion and fire elemental maybe can help to tank a few too.

but Ks is more promising in pvp rigth? have a future,while mage i dont think at moment

thankyou again I'll think a little more, I'm about to create a new char

If I were you I would definitely make a Magician. Top priority class on DI Party right now. Yeah, currently Mages at PvP are kinda limited on supporting and AoE, but, this can change with a future rework on his Death Laser. Also, you can trade/sell your mage later and buy a different class.

[Palhacitos 481]

Taking advantage of the post, Mage are now priorities in DiQ because of the Skill Flame Wave?
Sorry for my question, I've been off since October.

[Lyseria 1,826]

18 minutes ago, Palhacitos said:

Taking advantage of the post, Mage are now priorities in DiQ because of the Skill Flame Wave?
Sorry for my question, I've been off since October.

Yes, take a look

 

 

This skill melt the mobs

[NeoHiei 514]

19 minutes ago, Palhacitos said:

Taking advantage of the post, Mage are now priorities in DiQ because of the Skill Flame Wave?
Sorry for my question, I've been off since October.

Exactly, flame wave is extremely strong and also you can combo Watornado with Ks lightning from t5 and Ata lightning skill (forgot name, t3 or t2 I think) ,which deals a lot of damage if used together.

[Palhacitos 481]

o.O

Thanks for the explanation of all of you, SS is still strong in DiQ?

[NeoHiei 514]

3 minutes ago, Palhacitos said:

o.O

Thanks for the explanation of all of you, SS is still strong in DiQ?

SS is good, even better if you combine phantom nail/call with press deity and chasing hunt.

But mage is a waaaaaaay better than SS in DiQ.

Edited January 29, 2019 by NeoHiei

[DarkLink64 921]

5 minutes ago, Palhacitos said:

o.O

Thanks for the explanation of all of you, SS is still strong in DiQ?

I wouldn't call SS strong, but at least he is decent - that is, if you combo Phantom Nail with Press Deity.

Mages are so powerfull now that, if you manage to get 2 or 3 mages on a Party, SSs aren't required anymore - unlike before, that almost every party required a Shaman to do well.

My personal Tier List for AoE damage:

1. Mage
2. Fighter (Sword, Hell Brac and Giraffe)
3. Assassin
4. Pikeman
5. Shaman

6. Knight

7. Atalanta

8. Priestess
9. Archer
10. Mechanician

[Palhacitos 481]

I was annoyed after this news I have an SS 136 

[NeoHiei 514]

6 minutes ago, DarkLink64 said:

I wouldn't call SS strong, but at least he is decent - that is, if you combo Phantom Nail with Press Deity.

Mages are so powerfull now that, if you manage to get 2 or 3 mages on a Party, SSs aren't required anymore - unlike before, that almost every party required a Shaman to do well.

My personal Tier List for AoE damage:

1. Mage
2. Fighter (Sword, Hell Brac and Giraffe)
3. Assassin
4. Pikeman
5. Shaman

6. Knight

7. Atalanta

8. Priestess
9. Archer
10. Mechanician

Totally agree

[NeoHiei 514]

1 minute ago, Palhacitos said:

I was annoyed after this news I have an SS 136 

Don't worry, ss still good.

 

[Palhacitos 481]

lol. o.O ASS and PS AoE damage? 

Going UP one ASS for me 

[NeoHiei 514]

1 minute ago, Palhacitos said:

lol. o.O ASS and PS AoE damage? 

Going UP one ASS for me 

Yep, venom and evade party buff are very good xD

[Palhacitos 481]

Just now, NeoHiei said:

Yep, venom and evade party buff are very good xD

Oh my God
Ty all, but I'm stopping flooding in this topic xD

[DarkLink64 921]

12 hours ago, Palhacitos said:

lol. o.O ASS and PS AoE damage? 

Going UP one ASS for me 

Yes. If you keep switching between Pollute and the Fire Bomb skill, you will add 2 DoT effects on all monsters - Burn and Poison.

Pikeman Tornado got a very wide range and damage boost. Also, his Venom Spear now has a total count of 100 on PvE, and deals massive damage.

 

[Adaga 48]

If flame wave is so strong now,  why I have seen magicians using stone spike to grind in ct3 ?

[DarkLink64 921]

35 minutes ago, Adaga said:

If flame wave is so strong now,  why I have seen magicians using stone spike to grind in ct3 ?

Ask them

[- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,764]

2 hours ago, Adaga said:

If flame wave is so strong now,  why I have seen magicians using stone spike to grind in ct3 ?

you can't macro flame wave.