-Vodka- 664 Report post Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) The atalantas are missing from the server, are weak for up, could buff the skill in area, so that the characters reappear on the server and get to have some value! Edited March 17, 2019 by -Vodka- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcslug2 211 Report post Posted March 13, 2019 for real? i love atas in my pt on sl hs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bjork 24 Report post Posted March 14, 2019 I wish :( Atalanta is the weakest char in the game right now, she lacks literally everything, damage, def, hp etc.. I know, i know, assassin is not that good too, but at least the PvP is fun. I tried every build possible with her, both for pvp and pve and nothing worked, mainly because of her low dmg. Lets put into perspective for a sec. With an archer you are able to go pure and absolutely destroy your enemy, but in compensation you will die in a heartbeat. If you put your armor on, you are going to lose dmg, but you'll still be able to kill your opponent. With Atalanta all this shit gets more complicated, if you go pure your dmg will be not enough to compensate for you low def, if you use an armor your damage is going to be even worse, and you are going to die in the same way. In PvE (nv 132+) she's only acceptable bc of soul sucker, x rage makes me sick for how weak it is. Anyways, i really dont know exactly what could be done to revert this situation, but something has to be done quickly, i cant even sell my old itens, there are no more ata's in the game 3 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palhacitos 478 Report post Posted March 14, 2019 Unfortunately this is the real situation of ATA. Has no PVE and PVP damage. DiQ No one wants her at the party because of her low damage. very complicated. I agree that it has to have an improvement on it, but I think it's focused on the new map and items at the moment. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThunderFlare95 15 Report post Posted March 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Bjork said: assassin is not that good too, but at least the PvP is fun. who said Assassin isn't good , now she has high dmg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,759 Report post Posted March 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Bjork said: I wish ? Atalanta is the weakest char in the game right now, she lacks literally everything, damage, def, hp etc.. I know, i know, assassin is not that good too, but at least the PvP is fun. I tried every build possible with her, both for pvp and pve and nothing worked, mainly because of her low dmg. Lets put into perspective for a sec. With an archer you are able to go pure and absolutely destroy your enemy, but in compensation you will die in a heartbeat. If you put your armor on, you are going to lose dmg, but you'll still be able to kill your opponent. With Atalanta all this shit gets more complicated, if you go pure your dmg will be not enough to compensate for you low def, if you use an armor your damage is going to be even worse, and you are going to die in the same way. In PvE (nv 132+) she's only acceptable bc of soul sucker, x rage makes me sick for how weak it is. Anyways, i really dont know exactly what could be done to revert this situation, but something has to be done quickly, i cant even sell my old itens, there are no more ata's in the game I wouldn't say she is the weakest, atalanta has a quite good defense, she is a 1 handed char, also, she had many skills that help her out in pvp/hunt/up, soul sucker, stun, chimera, amazoon rage, party HoV... the only thing left to fix her is a small increase of damage, i suggested a time ago that javelin mastery (t5 skill) could add +~70% jav damage as well ( just like ass has got a skill that increases evade and dmg), cuz at is now it's fairly weak for a T5 skill ( at lvl 1 +1% crit, at lvl 2 +1 %crit again WTF!?). I also suggested to remove/reduce mobs' lightning res, so atalanta can use lightning jav in Di,cuz many mobs ( specially in di, where all mobs have high lightning res) receive less dmg against lightning dmg, this is a bad for priest and knights as well. In my opinion, priest is the weakest, not useless because she gives some support buffs, but pathetic cuz the char by herself can't do nothing, no defense or damage, a true buff mule. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palhacitos 478 Report post Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) @- D E A T H S T R O K E - I agree with many things you said. but you agree that all games have class for each area of the game? I see many of your posts and always defend PRS, to withdraw it as support. All the games I played. has tanker, killer and support, for pvp and pve. Who would you indicate to meet our support needs? to withdraw PRS as support as we will? What should be done? or reduction of hp and damage of mobs? Sorry to ask you something that does not have to do with the topic. Edited March 14, 2019 by Palhacitos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,759 Report post Posted March 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Palhacitos said: @- D E A T H S T R O K E - I agree with many things you said. but you agree that all games have class for each area of the game? I see many of your posts and always defend PRS, to withdraw it as support. All the games I played. has tanker, killer and support, for pvp and pve. Who would you indicate to meet our support needs? or reduction of hp and damage of mobs? Priest, for sure, but the problem is that priest here is not a real support, it is a mule. For priest be a support char; a. All her skills should be for party members only (including vl and regen). b. Ressurrection should be usefull c. Pris has 3 heal skills, regen,grand heal and regen, all those skills make priest totally limited, a priest 15x full dnt 140 does the same as a priest 132 nkd, uses regen field as a meat bag. c. Divine force is weaker than elementel enchant ( it adds aoe dmf as well) and advent of midranda, if pries is a support, divine force should be better than those skills. d. Distortion is better than glacial spike and so do ice meteorite slow down e. Holy mind doesn't work in pvp, and since it lasts for a small period of time you will need a priest exclusively for holy mind in boss hunt. Inertia and wisp works just fine. f. Defense lower than killers chars ( mage,ss, pike and even Fs tanks more) If priest is meant to be a support, only one priest should be enough to support the party, and, she should have better support skills ( better than chars that are not support and support skills that do not limit her to do only one thing per time), the char has already nule dmg, so there is no excuse to be that sh"t in everything. Mage has 3 times more damage than priest, has the third best defense, has distortion that is better than any other priest's slowdown skill, has elemental enchat that add 12% Aoe damage, while divine force not, has source, has wartornado that is the best support skill for Ks and ata, the only weak point is that death ray crit dmg is nerfed, but vigor ball is even worse ( no atq rtg and lower dmg). Ok prist has VL and regen, but as i said, a pathetic mule that it doesnt matter if it is 132 nkd or 15x full Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palhacitos 478 Report post Posted March 14, 2019 I agree at all points suggested. Mostly with all your skills should only be for group members (including vl and regen). Now I can understand your point of view. Thank you 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bjork 24 Report post Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said: I wouldn't say she is the weakest, atalanta has a quite good defense, she is a 1 handed char, also, she had many skills that help her out in pvp/hunt/up, soul sucker, stun, chimera, amazoon rage, party HoV... the only thing left to fix her is a small increase of damage, i suggested a time ago that javelin mastery (t5 skill) could add +~70% jav damage as well ( just like ass has got a skill that increases evade and dmg), cuz at is now it's fairly weak for a T5 skill ( at lvl 1 +1% crit, at lvl 2 +1 %crit again WTF!?). I also suggested to remove/reduce mobs' lightning res, so atalanta can use lightning jav in Di,cuz many mobs ( specially in di, where all mobs have high lightning res) receive less dmg against lightning dmg, this is a bad for priest and knights as well. In my opinion, priest is the weakest, not useless because she gives some support buffs, but pathetic cuz the char by herself can't do nothing, no defense or damage, a true buff mule. Priest may be weak, but at least she is unique and necessary in every pt. About ata skills. -Soul Sucker is awesome, but you know exactly what happens when you're hunting and the mobs have less than 50% of their hp. -Stun is fine, but you need to get at close range to use it, i always get hit before a can use the skill. -Chimera received some buffs, its good now. -amazon rage is also good, but i have a feeling that the delay is too big. It's not just a "small increase of damage", majority of her main skills need an improvement, your suggestions are great, but i dont think that this will be enough to bring more players. We have to remember that not everyone just buys an account (i'm one of them), some people prefer to lvlup by themselves. Low lvl ata's can't get jav mastery to lvl 10 until they are 116+ (considering that you need chimera lv 10 first). As i said before, your suggestions are good, but they are a little selfish. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,759 Report post Posted March 14, 2019 49 minutes ago, Bjork said: Priest may be weak, but at least she is unique and necessary in every pt. About ata skills. -Soul Sucker is awesome, but you know exactly what happens when you're hunting and the mobs have less than 50% of their hp. -Stun is fine, but you need to get at close range to use it, i always get hit before a can use the skill. -Chimera received some buffs, its good now. -amazon rage is also good, but i have a feeling that the delay is too big. It's not just a "small increase of damage", majority of her main skills need an improvement, your suggestions are great, but i dont think that this will be enough to bring more players. We have to remember that not everyone just buys an account (i'm one of them), some people prefer to lvlup by themselves. Low lvl ata's can't get jav mastery to lvl 10 until they are 116+ (considering that you need chimera lv 10 first). As i said before, your suggestions are good, but they are a little selfish. 1.A priest might be needed for vl or regen, but she is not required to be in the party, many have free regen mules, it only confirms what i said. 2. +70% of jav damage will be problably be more than enough to fix ata damage. 3. Most of chars need to be at least 132 to work fine,shaman for eg, have 4 really impprtant skils on t5, 2 of his main aoe skills, 1 skill for more hp, other for more mana and stm, so, it's not really a excuse =p, consider this as a reason to lvl up. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thisisrauldo 801 Report post Posted March 14, 2019 - Lightning Resistance difficults a lot the use of Lightning Jave at some maps (diq) - Slow range of the shield skills (stun and soul sucker) - High consumption of mp (even more if u use Amazon Rage, ARage becomes useless without mp down or regen) - The animation of X-Rage takes a lot of time (the animation/the skill's icon shows ata throwing at least 3 javes, and at the end we've one single damage... weird, no?) - When you're near other ata you cant summon your own chimera, you gotta take some distance to do so - The cooldown from Chimera it's too high - Chimera dies when you die just some issues that explains the lack of atalantas in the server 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Vodka- 664 Report post Posted March 17, 2019 Let's think of something to help our class, we want more characters atalanta's on the server! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoshimura1500 13 Report post Posted March 17, 2019 +1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dsauce 145 Report post Posted March 17, 2019 selling an ata account is like trying to give it to another player for free, cuz that's how shitty ata is kkkkkkkkkkkkk 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Vodka- 664 Report post Posted March 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, Dsauce said: selling an ata account is like trying to give it to another player for free, cuz that's how shitty ata is kkkkkkkkkkkkk yes ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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diemurd 484 Report post Posted March 18, 2019 Buff soul sucker to 35% do that ata ok Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,759 Report post Posted March 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, diemurd said: Buff soul sucker to 35% do that ata ok it won't fix ata in pvp, and, it'll overwhelm extinction, also, it'll just add a new problem, soul scuker mules 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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thisisrauldo 801 Report post Posted March 18, 2019 On 3/17/2019 at 6:28 PM, Dsauce said: selling an ata account is like trying to give it to another player for free, cuz that's how shitty ata is kkkkkkkkkkkkk B> Inorin full, pay 2 bellums Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites