Buff up ata

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[Dsauce 145]

18 hours ago, thisisrauldo said:

 

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On 3/14/2019 at 2:50 PM, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said:

I wouldn't say she is the weakest,  atalanta has a quite good defense, she is a 1 handed char, also, she had many skills that help her out in pvp/hunt/up, soul sucker, stun, chimera, amazoon rage, party HoV... the only thing left to fix her is a small increase of damage, i suggested a time ago that javelin mastery (t5 skill) could add +~70% jav damage as well ( just like ass has got a skill that increases evade and dmg), cuz at is now it's fairly weak for a T5 skill ( at lvl 1 +1% crit, at lvl 2 +1 %crit again WTF!?).

I also suggested to remove/reduce mobs' lightning res, so atalanta can use lightning jav in Di,cuz many mobs ( specially in di, where all mobs have high lightning res) receive less dmg against lightning dmg, this is a bad for priest and knights as well.

In my opinion, priest is the weakest, not useless because she gives some support buffs, but pathetic cuz the char by herself can't do nothing, no defense or damage, a true buff mule.

 

-As he said +70% jav dmg would help in all skill.

-a larger range for soul sucker could help in pve

-a slightly larger range for shield throw for pvp

 

-maybe revamp storm jav  to something like *120~130% boost  so it could be better than Xtrem rage and would make the gameplay more dynamic.

-HoV could give dmg boost as well to pt player.

 

 

 

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[Bjork 24]

@Wartale c'mon m8, cheer me up, say that ata will have some changes soon, the only thing that keeps me moving foward with this class is hope for a buff.

[ckernitz 19]

hope GM decide to help Atalanta Class  

[guidudzig 21]

buff x-rage to 200% dmg would be nice already.

[ckernitz 19]

 Atalanta  hope it will strong soon 

[thisisrauldo 801]

people still thinking dat the Staff care for Ata:

 

[Adaga 48]

+1

For atalanta improvements.

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1 year has passed and some things have been improved in atalanta. However, the area attack is still low and players do not want the minutes in Di, Q!

[FireFoX 40]

+1

[hopyboss21 23]

+ 1   need buff ata :((

[-TheBoss- 4]

+1 for atalanta improvement

[lefaucheur 157]

+1 ata is next pike Ö

[MrGreen 109]

+1 rip atalanta users 

[jerven 2]

Currently atalanta is the worst character in-game. sad. PVP, PVE, SOD. ???? I hope the GM can see the feedbacks. very sad.

[DarkLink64 921]

49 minutes ago, jerven said:

Currently atalanta is the worst character in-game. sad. PVP, PVE, SOD. ???? I hope the GM can see the feedbacks. very sad.

Nah, dont lie. Being the worst is not the case of Atalanta.

If Split Javelin gets fixed, it is a very good class to PvP with, by far from the worst. She is very well balanced (perhaps some little tweaks here and there), the problem is being outclassed by other broken classes, which gives the illusion that Atalanta is bad at PvP.

For example, there is no point on playing Atalanta if Archer has a longer reach, tanks a lot more with Shield (thanks to higher evasion), and has the ability to use a 2 hand weapon and deals the highest constant 1v1 damage in the game with Phoenix Shot and her new T5, Solar Shot. Atalanta Shield Strike (stun) has so much little reach, whereas Archer's Stun Arrow reach is based on bow range.

Archer outclass Atalanta so much, so, it seems that Atalanta is bad, but in reality she isn't.

PvE, on 1v1 she is quite good already. New Split Javelin can output a higher damage than the old one (3 consecutive crits), Poison Javelin and Soul Sucker yields atalanta a very high DPS.

On AoE, the new Extreme Javelin increased a lot her damage, but perhaps she still needs some improvments.

Sod is broken as a whole, and being good on sod is usually a reflect of how good a character is on PvE AoE department.


I would suggest some major tweaks on Atalanta, but I never got the chance to proper test her. 

She has some useless offensive skills that could receive a new purpose on specific scenarios. And, to be honest, I wish Atalanta could cast some of her offensive skills with 2 Handed Scythes (that in reality are spears. very few "scythes" for Pikes are actually scythes, his weapon is actually a spear.) for an extra peak damage at cost of her little tankiness with shields.

However I cant find a solution on how to gracefully deal with the higher Str requirement of Scythes. 

On my wet dreams, Atalanta should receive a full rework, with  some concepts I'd like to see in Wartale:

Atalanta, a hybrid between on-foot and mounted character, also a hybrid between long-range and close range.

Being able to mount and FIGHT while mounted on her Chimera:

Once mounted on Chimera, Atalanta gains all Chimera normal buffs, but also gains new buffs: Higher Move Speed and Reduced Damage, but looses attack speed and attack rating. Once being mounted, you can't be unmounted by damage, except by future balance that might add a specific skill the unique trait of forcing mounts out of players.

To prevent too much work on animation rework, not all of her offensive skills should be available to be used while being mounted. The ones that are, gets specific boost when mounted. When mounted, the closer you are to the target, the higher the damage.

Skills that arent allowed to be used while mounted, could also get different new effects and boosts.

So, Ata could switch between on-foot and riding her Chimera on specific scenarios.


 

Edited July 21, 2020 by DarkLink64

[jerven 2]

57 minutes ago, DarkLink64 said:

Nah, dont lie. Being the worst is not the case of Atalanta.

If Split Javelin gets fixed, it is a very good class to PvP with, by far from the worst. She is very well balanced (perhaps some little tweaks here and there), the problem is being outclassed by other broken classes, which gives the illusion that Atalanta is bad at PvP.

For example, there is no point on playing Atalanta if Archer has a longer reach, tanks a lot more with Shield (thanks to higher evasion), and has the ability to use a 2 hand weapon and deals the highest constant 1v1 damage in the game with Phoenix Shot and her new T5, Solar Shot. Atalanta Shield Strike (stun) has so much little reach, whereas Archer's Stun Arrow reach is based on bow range.

Archer outclass Atalanta so much, so, it seems that Atalanta is bad, but in reality she isn't.

PvE, on 1v1 she is quite good already. New Split Javelin can output a higher damage than the old one (3 consecutive crits), Poison Javelin and Soul Sucker yields atalanta a very high DPS.

On AoE, the new Extreme Javelin increased a lot her damage, but perhaps she still needs some improvments.

Sod is broken as a whole, and being good on sod is usually a reflect of how good a character is on PvE AoE department.


I would suggest some major tweaks on Atalanta, but I never got the chance to proper test her. 

She has some useless offensive skills that could receive a new purpose on specific scenarios. And, to be honest, I wish Atalanta could cast some of her offensive skills with 2 Handed Scythes (that in reality are spears. very few "scythes" for Pikes are actually scythes, his weapon is actually a spear.) for an extra peak damage at cost of her little tankiness with shields.

However I cant find a solution on how to gracefully deal with the higher Str requirement of Scythes. 

On my wet dreams, Atalanta should receive a full rework, with  some concepts I'd like to see in Wartale:

Atalanta, a hybrid between on-foot and mounted character, also a hybrid between long-range and close range.

Being able to mount and FIGHT while mounted on her Chimera:

Once mounted on Chimera, Atalanta gains all Chimera normal buffs, but also gains new buffs: Higher Move Speed and Reduced Damage, but looses attack speed and attack rating. Once being mounted, you can't be unmounted by damage, except by future balance that might add a specific skill the unique trait of forcing mounts out of players.

To prevent too much work on animation rework, not all of her offensive skills should be available to be used while being mounted. The ones that are, gets specific boost when mounted. When mounted, the closer you are to the target, the higher the damage.

Skills that arent allowed to be used while mounted, could also get different new effects and boosts.

So, Ata could switch between on-foot and riding her Chimera on specific scenarios.


 

Your points are true. What i meant about being worst is exactly the deficits you pointed out. I just made it exaggerated just to illustrate my opinion. Other than that, nice critic for the said character. I hope that the GM's can see this as i have been rooting for this character ever since.  

 

Cheers!

Edited July 21, 2020 by jerven

[-TheBoss- 4]

1 hour ago, jerven said:

Currently atalanta is the worst character in-game. sad. PVP, PVE, SOD. ???? I hope the GM can see the feedbacks. very sad.

+ 1 Hopefully Ata problem will get attention to GM

 

I think ATA need some attention and Improvement to get better. As I remember in Wartale - AS/ATA are better in some aspects like PVP

[JeleStore 372]

My Ata is so weak both offensive and defensive. I died so much. Being under 110 makes it even harder because people rarely sell low level gear. 

 

When you die so easily money is hard to come by. You can't pick gold much because if you're distracted you die.

 

 

[sacerzuim 58]

Up for our Atalantas !!

[MrGreen 109]

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[you2kyo 171]

- Xtreme Rage should receive a damage increase from 80% to 100 or 110%, even with the recent changes, the skill is not as good as other ranged character skills.

 

- Poison Javelin deservers a bigger range, right now the skills feels like a single-target ability. Are of effect should definitely get a buff. Venom Spear (Tier 3) is WAY better than Poison Javelin (Tier 5).