Super Future 26 Report post Posted May 16, 2019 Hey guys, I would like to know what skills & tips i should use for being a Archer for Hunting. If there is any idea you have please post it here. I would like to know everything about Archer. I've got a level 109 Archer atm with lvl 100 gear. Any tips about skills or gear will be appreciated. PS: I dont PVP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zchaos 52 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 For a Archer is important to keep in mind, that is a Very fragile class, than for hunt in ET1,CT3 And etc Will need a tank, that way, you don't use armor or shield for defense, Just Focus in a pure damage build with a Summer or Sucuubus costume for atk speed. For skill= BOMB SHOT ALL you need Deal a lotttt of damage (most in demons) golden Falcon is good for more damage And Hp regem And the th4 buff for more damage And atk rating, If you use the t5 move speed skill use scout Falcon to conpansate the Lost of atk rating. That's ALL, recomend moon Hunt for fast Gold And XP is prety good with a Archer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Future 26 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Zchaos said: For a Archer is important to keep in mind, that is a Very fragile class, than for hunt in ET1,CT3 And etc Will need a tank, that way, you don't use armor or shield for defense, Just Focus in a pure damage build with a Summer or Sucuubus costume for atk speed. For skill= BOMB SHOT ALL you need Deal a lotttt of damage (most in demons) golden Falcon is good for more damage And Hp regem And the th4 buff for more damage And atk rating, If you use the t5 move speed skill use scout Falcon to conpansate the Lost of atk rating. That's ALL, recomend moon Hunt for fast Gold And XP is prety good with a Archer Thank you very much for the tips! ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diraiz 261 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 14 hours ago, Super Future said: Hey guys, I would like to know what skills & tips i should use for being a Archer for Hunting. If there is any idea you have please post it here. I would like to know everything about Archer. I've got a level 109 Archer atm with lvl 100 gear. Any tips about skills or gear will be appreciated. PS: I dont PVP. If you're talking about hunting, I understand you're talking about stronger maps where the idea is to drop items and make gold. I partially disagree with the friend up there. First, boomb shoot is execelnte against demon, but a slow skill with less damage than perfuration, arrow of range and phoenix. The correct thing is to do a full damage build, without armor and protect behind the wolwerine (this must be in the highest lv you can). If you find a monster who is not a demon, the ideal is to kill him with the phoenix. If you have the opportunity to have 2 or more monsters attached to the wolwerine you choose to kill with boomb shoot if they are demons or perfuration if they are common monsters, but arrow of range is, in my opinion, even better, since this one of 150% damage in lv 10, against 100% of bomb shoot and 98% (+ 40% critical) of perfuration. Perfuration does not have a lot of range and needs you to have monsters aligned so that it can have an effect on everyone, but arrow of range and boomb shoot will not need, since these skills have a 360 degree feature. I highly recommend that you use perfuration (because of the critic) if you already have experience and ability to play with archer, otherwise you can be very efficient using boomb shoot and arrow of range or even phoenix (best skill 1 x 1 with monsters and pvp) if your lv allows. You can use summer (sucubus only for lv 110) with mix to attack faster, or prefer to use a dak gaia AS age or mix opening hand of attack speed but gaining a little more in defense and absorption. The skills of tier 5 are important as well. In the case of the archer there are only two at present. Most importantly, for hunt, since you are going to kill one monster at a time, it is the stun skill, as this will allow you to have time to revoke wolwerine when he dies or even free you from a blow if you are focused on one monster and another appear out of nowhere without you noticing. The speed skill is great to run around, but it will punish you greatly by decreasing your attack rate aggressively and, consequently, decreasing its damage and the chances of achieving higher volumes of critics in the deferred blows. Ideally, you use the speed skill only to get to places, but disable it when hunting some monster to kill it faster. As for the composition of your status, you can do the following: Strenght: 79 ~ 81 (for great shield) Spirit: 64 ~ 68 (for a Murky) Talent: 80 (for the Bow and Set) Agility: MAX Health: BASE 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Future 26 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Diraiz said: If you're talking about hunting, I understand you're talking about stronger maps where the idea is to drop items and make gold. I partially disagree with the friend up there. First, boomb shoot is execelnte against demon, but a slow skill with less damage than perfuration, arrow of range and phoenix. The correct thing is to do a full damage build, without armor and protect behind the wolwerine (this must be in the highest lv you can). If you find a monster who is not a demon, the ideal is to kill him with the phoenix. If you have the opportunity to have 2 or more monsters attached to the wolwerine you choose to kill with boomb shoot if they are demons or perfuration if they are common monsters, but arrow of range is, in my opinion, even better, since this one of 150% damage in lv 10, against 100% of bomb shoot and 98% (+ 40% critical) of perfuration. Perfuration does not have a lot of range and needs you to have monsters aligned so that it can have an effect on everyone, but arrow of range and boomb shoot will not need, since these skills have a 360 degree feature. I highly recommend that you use perfuration (because of the critic) if you already have experience and ability to play with archer, otherwise you can be very efficient using boomb shoot and arrow of range or even phoenix (best skill 1 x 1 with monsters and pvp) if your lv allows. You can use summer (sucubus only for lv 110) with mix to attack faster, or prefer to use a dak gaia AS age or mix opening hand of attack speed but gaining a little more in defense and absorption. The skills of tier 5 are important as well. In the case of the archer there are only two at present. Most importantly, for hunt, since you are going to kill one monster at a time, it is the stun skill, as this will allow you to have time to revoke wolwerine when he dies or even free you from a blow if you are focused on one monster and another appear out of nowhere without you noticing. The speed skill is great to run around, but it will punish you greatly by decreasing your attack rate aggressively and, consequently, decreasing its damage and the chances of achieving higher volumes of critics in the deferred blows. Ideally, you use the speed skill only to get to places, but disable it when hunting some monster to kill it faster. As for the composition of your status, you can do the following: Strenght: 79 ~ 81 (for great shield) Spirit: 64 ~ 68 (for a Murky) Talent: 80 (for the Bow and Set) Agility: MAX Health: BASE Hello @Diraiz, Thank you so much for your reply. I'm noticing a few things here: - I should focus more on AoR and Perf instead of Bombshot against 1 x 1 or 1 x 2 (Cause I was using bombshot only) - I should use Summer costume with mix ( I'm wearing Thales armour with Inferna mix now cause I thought i needed Def to survive) I have a few more questions for you: - Should I get a Great Shield for my secondary weapon for defence? - Shouldn't I get the highest boots/brac/gloves i can? And which one should i focus on getting for higher level? ( Since you advised me to keep str at 81 I wont be able to wear higher level gaunt/boots/brac ) - What about the Amulets/Rings? What kind should I focus on getting higher level? It limits me if I keep my spirit at 68. -Should I Age my bow early on? or just Mix it and Age it later when I have a level 11x / 12x bow? ( At the moment im wearing Wyvern Bow +6 ) Edited May 17, 2019 by Super Future Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thisisrauldo 807 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) In my experience I prefer to hunt with Bomb Shot and Wind Arrow, that's how and because I do it: 1) Bomb Shot for all types of mobs, except Normal. Even with the low attack speed, this skill is way better than Phoenix/Arrow of Rage/Perfuration, since it shoots 2 times and does each time 2 different types of damage (AoE and 1x1); here explain how the skills works Phoenix Shot you need to use Scout Hawk/Golden Falcon to have more attack rating, and even like that, you might miss a few shots. Perfuration is good because it doesnt miss it and u can do critical, buuuut u consume a lot of mp/stm for a lower damage compared to BShot/PShot Arrow of Rage it's only good to up in some maps that doesnt have a lot of demons, for hunt I wouldnt suggest because... yea you would make 150% damage buut you cant do critical with it 2) Wind Arrow for Normal mobs. So, the other skill I use as option too it's Wind Arrow, besides the huuuuge extra attack speed (+5 at lvl 10), this skill has some good damage against normal mobs + you can do a critical attack with it. Edited May 17, 2019 by thisisrauldo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thisisrauldo 807 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Super Future said: Hello Diraiz, Thank you so much for your reply. I'm noticing a few things here: - I should focus more on AoR and Perf instead of Bombshot against 1 x 1 or 1 x 2 (Cause I was using bombshot only) - I should use Summer costume with mix ( I'm wearing Thales armour with Inferna mix now cause I thought i needed Def to survive) I have a few more questions for you: - Should I get a Great Shield for my secondary weapon for defence? - Shouldn't I get the highest boots/brac/gloves i can? And which one should i focus on getting for higher level? ( Since you advised me to keep str at 81 I wont be able to wear higher level gaunt/boots/brac ) - What about the Amulets/Rings? What kind should I focus on getting higher level? It limits me if I keep my spirit at 68. -Should I Age my bow early on? or just Mix it and Age it later when I have a level 11x / 12x bow? 1) No, keep focusing on Bomb shot, way better at mostly maps to hunt/exp than AoR and Perf 2) On my AS I usually use cuepy for a higher range, I think the extra attack speed doesnt change the atk speed from BShot, but im not sure, I advise you to buy a Succubus instead of a Summer, since the Succubus will give u +1% block than the Summer, and MP Regen, instead of STM useless Regen 3) If you're a pure archer yea, Great/Blaze Shield it's good enough 4) for normal set you can get the higher lvl set or make your own adjustments, in my case for example I use HELL BRAC (+1% Critical) / HELL GAU (+LVL/10 ATK POWER) / MOKOVA BOOTS (+ MOVE SPEED), if you have items with perf str, trust me, you wont need more than 79 of str 5) for amulets and rings I suggest or setboss1 (kelv amulet / v-rings / dgs - 64 spirit) or setboss3 (throne pieces - 80 spirit) 6) I just started using aged bows at 131 with one 120 +22, but I think u can use mixed ones till 141/145 (134 bow bsol vigor if it's not the same, it's better than one 130 +22) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diraiz 261 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Super Future said: Hello Diraiz, Thank you so much for your reply. I'm noticing a few things here: - I should focus more on AoR and Perf instead of Bombshot against 1 x 1 or 1 x 2 (Cause I was using bombshot only) - I should use Summer costume with mix ( I'm wearing Thales armour with Inferna mix now cause I thought i needed Def to survive) I have a few more questions for you: - Should I get a Great Shield for my secondary weapon for defence? - Shouldn't I get the highest boots/brac/gloves i can? And which one should i focus on getting for higher level? ( Since you advised me to keep str at 81 I wont be able to wear higher level gaunt/boots/brac ) - What about the Amulets/Rings? What kind should I focus on getting higher level? It limits me if I keep my spirit at 68. -Should I Age my bow early on? or just Mix it and Age it later when I have a level 11x / 12x bow? ( At the moment im wearing Wyvern Bow +6 ) - Should I get a Great Shield for my secondary weapon for defence? Yes. Mix HP or, with a perfect block at the highest age you can. This will aid you in defending yourself without increasing your points in strength and decreasing your damage. - Shouldn't I get the highest boots/brac/gloves i can? And which one should i focus on getting for higher level? ( Since you advised me to keep str at 81 I wont be able to wear higher level gaunt/boots/brac ) You should get the highest set you can. I use str 81 and have a full 13x set. The items that most require Str are actually armor and weapon. With Str 79~81 you can use a full 13x set. If it is necessary to increase a little more to (85 ~ 90) to use some part of the set that requires this, you can do it without problems. Some set items of lower lv sometimes require more Str than others of higher lv. - What about the Amulets/Rings? What kind should I focus on getting higher level? It limits me if I keep my spirit at 68. With this spirit variation you can use the set boss 1 (2 val + 1 DGS + 1 kel). You need 64 (perfect status) of spirit to use them. But if you do not have a set boss, you can use the amulets, rings, and sheltons that this amount allows. -Should I Age my bow early on? or just Mix it and Age it later when I have a level 11x / 12x bow? ( At the moment im wearing Wyvern Bow +6 ) Do not age your items in this lv. The ideal is to use mix (ceslesto-mirage-inferna-enigma) because you can quickly use another higher lv item. Aside from that, the age increases very little compared to the mix in this lv. Some mix (like enigma for example) outweigh a +13 age in the bow. And in the end, the process of age becomes more expensive, slow (because you need to be maturing the weapons), less efficient (because at the end of the less damage) and makes you practically can not resell the items, since the process of age raises the lv requirement of the item and it is not worth you to buy a 106 +8 bow, for example, if you can buy a clean 110 and give mix and it will beat much more than this 106, both of which will have the same requirement of lv (110) since the bow of lv 106, after 8 processes of age, had its lv raised to 110. Just to prove my point, a perfect 106 bow +8 hits 75-97 and a clean 110 lv bow hits 74-96. If you give a simple and cheap mix, like the celesto mix, in the 110 bow, it happens to beat 82-104 and still adds +20 HP. And since both of them require lv 110, it's not worth it for anyone to buy a 106 +8 bow if the clean 110 bow already beats almost the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diraiz 261 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, thisisrauldo said: 1) No, keep focusing on Bomb shot, way better at mostly maps to hunt/exp than AoR and Perf (I partially agree) 2) On my AS I usually use cuepy for a higher range, I think the extra attack speed doesnt change the atk speed from BShot, but im not sure, I advise you to buy a Succubus instead of a Summer, since the Succubus will give u +1% block than the Summer, and MP Regen, instead of STM useless Regen (I agree) 3) If you're a pure archer yea, Great/Blaze Shield it's good enough (I agree) 4) for normal set you can get the higher lvl set or make your own adjustments, in my case for example I use HELL BRAC (+1% Critical) / HELL GAU (+LVL/10 ATK POWER) / MOKOVA BOOTS (+ MOVE SPEED), if you have items with perf str, trust me, you wont need more than 79 of str (I agree) 5) for amulets and rings I suggest or setboss1 (kelv amulet / v-rings / dgs - 64 spirit) or setboss3 (throne pieces - 80 spirit) (I agree) 6) I just started using aged bows at 131 with one 120 +22, but I think u can use mixed ones till 141/145 (134 bow bsol vigor if it's not the same, it's better than one 130 +22) (I agree) 1) If you do this will work just fine. It is rather a good option to focus on boomb shoot, but I am in favor of using AOR when you have a lot of non demon mob (or perfuration). If you do not want to have work, keep it simple, use boomb shoot for everything and later you evaluate the advantages of using the other skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Future 26 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, thisisrauldo said: 1) No, keep focusing on Bomb shot, way better at mostly maps to hunt/exp than AoR and Perf 2) On my AS I usually use cuepy for a higher range, I think the extra attack speed doesnt change the atk speed from BShot, but im not sure, I advise you to buy a Succubus instead of a Summer, since the Succubus will give u +1% block than the Summer, and MP Regen, instead of STM useless Regen 3) If you're a pure archer yea, Great/Blaze Shield it's good enough 4) for normal set you can get the higher lvl set or make your own adjustments, in my case for example I use HELL BRAC (+1% Critical) / HELL GAU (+LVL/10 ATK POWER) / MOKOVA BOOTS (+ MOVE SPEED), if you have items with perf str, trust me, you wont need more than 79 of str 5) for amulets and rings I suggest or setboss1 (kelv amulet / v-rings / dgs - 64 spirit) or setboss3 (throne pieces - 80 spirit) 6) I just started using aged bows at 131 with one 120 +22, but I think u can use mixed ones till 141/145 (134 bow bsol vigor if it's not the same, it's better than one 130 +22) @thisisrauldo, I will provide these tips on my Archer, thank you very much for the tips. The one thing i dont understand is, where do I find these lower/perf Str boots/brac/gloves? Am I supposed to buy them from people of their personal shop? Cause if I look at the NPC shops for example Dragon Gauntlets require 100 Str. I find these stats on the Item List too. So im guessing some people have the same gauntlets but with lower str? Is that cause of the AS spec on the item? And what is a bsol? I keep seeing the same word alot and i really dont know what it stands for... lol Thanks anyway for your reply ? Edited May 17, 2019 by Super Future 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Future 26 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, Diraiz said: - Should I get a Great Shield for my secondary weapon for defence? Yes. Mix HP or, with a perfect block at the highest age you can. This will aid you in defending yourself without increasing your points in strength and decreasing your damage. - Shouldn't I get the highest boots/brac/gloves i can? And which one should i focus on getting for higher level? ( Since you advised me to keep str at 81 I wont be able to wear higher level gaunt/boots/brac ) You should get the highest set you can. I use str 81 and have a full 13x set. The items that most require Str are actually armor and weapon. With Str 79~81 you can use a full 13x set. If it is necessary to increase a little more to (85 ~ 90) to use some part of the set that requires this, you can do it without problems. Some set items of lower lv sometimes require more Str than others of higher lv. - What about the Amulets/Rings? What kind should I focus on getting higher level? It limits me if I keep my spirit at 68. With this spirit variation you can use the set boss 1 (2 val + 1 DGS + 1 kel). You need 64 (perfect status) of spirit to use them. But if you do not have a set boss, you can use the amulets, rings, and sheltons that this amount allows. -Should I Age my bow early on? or just Mix it and Age it later when I have a level 11x / 12x bow? ( At the moment im wearing Wyvern Bow +6 ) Do not age your items in this lv. The ideal is to use mix (ceslesto-mirage-inferna-enigma) because you can quickly use another higher lv item. Aside from that, the age increases very little compared to the mix in this lv. Some mix (like enigma for example) outweigh a +13 age in the bow. And in the end, the process of age becomes more expensive, slow (because you need to be maturing the weapons), less efficient (because at the end of the less damage) and makes you practically can not resell the items, since the process of age raises the lv requirement of the item and it is not worth you to buy a 106 +8 bow, for example, if you can buy a clean 110 and give mix and it will beat much more than this 106, both of which will have the same requirement of lv (110) since the bow of lv 106, after 8 processes of age, had its lv raised to 110. Just to prove my point, a perfect 106 bow +8 hits 75-97 and a clean 110 lv bow hits 74-96. If you give a simple and cheap mix, like the celesto mix, in the 110 bow, it happens to beat 82-104 and still adds +20 HP. And since both of them require lv 110, it's not worth it for anyone to buy a 106 +8 bow if the clean 110 bow already beats almost the same thing. @Diraiz, Thank you for the tips on the Archer! I will provide these tips on my AS ? PS: Thanks for the aging explanation, I get what your saying 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diraiz 261 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, Super Future said: @thisisrauldo, I will provide these tips on my Archer, thank you very much for the tips. The one thing i dont understand is, where do I find these lower/perf Str boots/brac/gloves? Am I supposed to buy them from people of their personal shop? Cause if I look at the NPC shops for example Dragon Gauntlets require 100 Str. I find these stats on the Item List too. So im guessing some people have the same gauntlets but with lower str? Is that cause of the AS spec on the item? And what is a bsol? I keep seeing the same word alot and i really dont know what it stands for... lol Thanks anyway for your reply ? You will find these items in the personal shops of the players in the city. Some items, even if identical, require different status just because of what you said: Because they are for AS. Some classes like AS / ATA can use items that require less force, but in return they will require more agility. Bsol is a type of mix using the sheltom Sol to do it. You can check the mix types and sheltons required in this link: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Future 26 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Diraiz said: You will find these items in the personal shops of the players in the city. Some items, even if identical, require different status just because of what you said: Because they are for AS. Some classes like AS / ATA can use items that require less force, but in return they will require more agility. Bsol is a type of mix using the sheltom Sol to do it. You can check the mix types and sheltons required in this link: @Diraiz, So in this case he was talking about a bow bsol vigor. So im guessing he was talking about the Sol Vigor Mix that gives: MinAP(+29) MaxAP(+29) MP(+35) to his bow? But then where does the B stand for in bsol? maybe a dumb question but im just curious lol.. And another thing i see alot is DNT, what does DNT mean? Edited May 17, 2019 by Super Future Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diraiz 261 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Super Future said: @Diraiz, So in this case he was talking about a bow bsol vigor. So im guessing he was talking about the Sol Vigor Mix that gives: MinAP(+29) MaxAP(+29) MP(+35) to his bow? But then where does the B stand for in bsol? maybe a dumb question but im just curious lol.. And another thing i see alot is DNT, what does DNT mean? DNT means Donated. This is a 100% perfect item. Take a look at this announcement: You will see the abbreviations BSOL, BSM, BOM, etc ... BSOL is used for any mix with Sol. BSM for any mix with Sapphire and BOM for any mix with Oredo (and so on). B is as if it were "best". So you have: Best Sol Mix - Best Sapphire Mix - Best Oredo Mix, etc... But if you really want to know which mix was used, you have to ask the advertiser. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Future 26 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 45 minutes ago, Diraiz said: DNT means Donated. This is a 100% perfect item. Take a look at this announcement: You will see the abbreviations BSOL, BSM, BOM, etc ... BSOL is used for any mix with Sol. BSM for any mix with Sapphire and BOM for any mix with Oredo (and so on). B is as if it were "best". So you have: Best Sol Mix - Best Sapphire Mix - Best Oredo Mix, etc... But if you really want to know which mix was used, you have to ask the advertiser. Thank you, this was very informative. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Future 26 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, thisisrauldo said: 2) Wind Arrow for Normal mobs. So, the other skill I use as option too it's Wind Arrow, besides the huuuuge extra attack speed (+5 at lvl 10), this skill has some good damage against normal mobs + you can do a critical attack with it. @thisisrauldo, So you're saying WA is actually worth making lv 10? @thisisrauldo and @Diraiz, I would like to know what skills you guys level from T1-T5 for Hunting, and what skills you max for EXPing Let me know ? Edited May 17, 2019 by Super Future Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diraiz 261 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Super Future said: @thisisrauldo, So you're saying WA is actually worth making lv 10? @thisisrauldo and @Diraiz, I would like to know what skills you guys level from T1-T5 for Hunting, and what skills you max for EXPing Let me know ? Pretend that you have 40/50 MOBs In a kind of UP map around you. You use the skill (X) that hits all of them with a range of 150, because it is an area and you watch the damage numbers appear. They range from 14xx to 17xx. This skill (X) shoots 2 times per use and is a bit slow but undeniably efficient. Then you notice that you have a skill (Y) that is also of area and hits all of them with a range of 140 and, in practice, it works as if the range is equal to the skill (X) because all monsters tend to stick to your around. You notice that the damage varies from 21xx to 24xx. So you notice that this skill gave you an additional damage, but it is extremely fast, and although it only offers one shot for each use, it is able to shoot 3 times at the time of the two skill shots (X). But one thing leaves you in doubt: The skill (X) even deals 4xx damage to demons when they appear, but, you think a little more and realize that you have only one type of demon monster on the map and all others are not demons. Let's say demons then correspond to 25% of the monsters on the map, since the other 3 types of monsters, which are 75%, are not demons. However, to complicate things a little, you think that in spite of this, the damage of 4xx of the skill (X) in demons corresponds, in average, to double of damage of 2xx of the skill (Y) in all damages. So you have to solve a complex equation with the following information: Y is faster than X X gives double damage in demons than Y Y deals 30 to 40% more damage to monsters in general than X X consumes less mana and stamina than Y And now? Which do I pick? How Do I Choose? I answered this question by going to a medium difficulty map for my LV, like ET1, joining some monsters for 5 minutes and killing only with Skill (X) and then with Skill (Y). I tried to do the same on other maps to get a higher sampling result, and Skill (Y) generally gave me a slightly larger amount of xp / dead monsters than Skill (X). And on hunt maps, using both at right times, always using (X) for demons and (Y) for non-demons, was the best result of using either one or the other. So, now you have to know that X = Bomb Shot and Y = AR. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Future 26 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Diraiz said: Pretend that you have 40/50 MOBs In a kind of UP map around you. You use the skill (X) that hits all of them with a range of 150, because it is an area and you watch the damage numbers appear. They range from 14xx to 17xx. This skill (X) shoots 2 times per use and is a bit slow but undeniably efficient. Then you notice that you have a skill (Y) that is also of area and hits all of them with a range of 140 and, in practice, it works as if the range is equal to the skill (X) because all monsters tend to stick to your around. You notice that the damage varies from 21xx to 24xx. So you notice that this skill gave you an additional damage, but it is extremely fast, and although it only offers one shot for each use, it is able to shoot 3 times at the time of the two skill shots (X). But one thing leaves you in doubt: The skill (X) even deals 4xx damage to demons when they appear, but, you think a little more and realize that you have only one type of demon monster on the map and all others are not demons. Let's say demons then correspond to 25% of the monsters on the map, since the other 3 types of monsters, which are 75%, are not demons. However, to complicate things a little, you think that in spite of this, the damage of 4xx of the skill (X) in demons corresponds, in average, to double of damage of 2xx of the skill (Y) in all damages. So you have to solve a complex equation with the following information: Y is faster than X X gives double damage in demons than Y Y deals 30 to 40% more damage to monsters in general than X X consumes less mana and stamina than Y And now? Which do I pick? How Do I Choose? I answered this question by going to a medium difficulty map for my LV, like ET1, joining some monsters for 5 minutes and killing only with Skill (X) and then with Skill (Y). I tried to do the same on other maps to get a higher sampling result, and Skill (Y) generally gave me a slightly larger amount of xp / dead monsters than Skill (X). And on hunt maps, using both at right times, always using (X) for demons and (Y) for non-demons, was the best result of using either one or the other. So, now you have to know that X = Bomb Shot and Y = AR. I really appreciate the information given here, but i meant which one of the Archer skills you max to lv 10 from Tier 1 to Tier 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
julianoassmann 13 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Super Future said: I really appreciate the information given here, but i meant which one of the Archer skills you max to lv 10 from Tier 1 to Tier 5. Wind Arrow Shoot Mastery RoA BombShot Golden Falcon Perforation FoN Wolverine Phoenix Both T5 I think is that.. If you want PvP u might need to be concerned about Attack Rating, then Scout Falcon is your option for more of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Future 26 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, julianoassmann said: Wind Arrow Shoot Mastery RoA BombShot Golden Falcon Perforation FoN Wolverine Phoenix Both T5 I think is that.. If you want PvP u might need to be concerned about Attack Rating, then Scout Falcon is your option for more of that. Thank you ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thisisrauldo 807 Report post Posted May 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Super Future said: @thisisrauldo, So you're saying WA is actually worth making lv 10? @thisisrauldo and @Diraiz, I would like to know what skills you guys level from T1-T5 for Hunting, and what skills you max for EXPing Let me know ? yea, it is actually, but dont worry bout it for now, only worry about lvling it up when u get the other skills lvl 10, on my as I have these ones lvl 10: Scout Hawk, Shooting Mastery, Wind Arrow, Dion's Eye (lvl 8), Arrow of Rage, Bomb Shot, Perforation; all tier4; the 2 released tier5 skills 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites