NanoEntity 8 Report post Posted January 29, 2010 ORB Prs vs Shield Prs I see a lot of posts about ORB vs Shield, which is better and why So I decided to write this little compare based off Strength only and in game item list http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=1829.0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Avernus Beads Defense 166 - 180 Block 7 - 8% ABS 8.1 - 8.6 Spec. Stats Defense 34 - 44 Block 7% Absorb 1.4 - 1.8 Age +20 3 oredo / 7 bellum / 11 enigma / 15 inferna / 19 celesto Chance of Fail / Chance of De age, chance of going Poof. AFTER With Spec. Avernus Beads +20 Defense 1254 ABS 20.4 Block 15% Oracle Wand req 70 str Benefit Can Equip Great Bracelets Strength 66 Defense 36 PotCount 38 War Gauntlets Strength 70 Defense 52 Absorb 1.7 Spec. Stats Defense 20 Absorb 0.5 Total: Defense 108 Absorb 2.2 PotCount 38 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dreadnaught Shield Strength 130 / lower for AS/ATA Spec Defense 210 - 260 Absorb 14.6 - 15.1 Block 17 - 20% Best MIX HP( +60 ) | Def( +200 ) | Abs( +5.4 ) | Blk( +7 ) Price 6 oredo / 4 bellum / 1 enigma AFTER Dreadnaught Shield Strength 130 / lower for AS/ATA Spec Defense 460 Absorb 20.5 Block 27% HP +60 +60 HP means you don't have to spend/invest points into Health. There being moved into strength, which gives more carry weight, more abs, more def being added. Benefit Can equip Phoenix Bracelets Strength 90 Defense 160 PotCount 110 Phoenix Gauntlets Strength 100 Defense 193 Absorb 12 Spec. Stats Defense 64 Absorb 1.2 Total: Defense 417 Absorb 13.2 PotCount 110 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ THE DIFFERENCE! AFTER With Spec. Avernus Beads ( Age +20) Defense 1254 ABS 20.4 Block 15% PLUS Defense 108 Absorb 2.2 PotCount 38 Total Gain: Defense 1362 Absorb 22.6 Block 15% PotCount 38 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AFTER Dreadnaught Shield (Best Mix) Strength 130 / lower for AS/ATA Spec Defense 460 Absorb 20.5 Block 27% HP +60 PLUS Defense 417 Absorb 13.2 PotCount 110 Total Gain: Defense 877 Absorb 33.7 Block 27% HP +60 PotCount 110 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CONCLUSION! Orb Prs (+20) Defense 1362 Absorb 22.6 Block 15% PotCount 38 Price: 3 oredo / 7 bellum / 11 enigma / 15 inferna / 19 celesto 20 times Age fee. 28% - 48% chance item will go poof, Age +15 - +20. Summon Muspell (+10) Added Evasion + Block 30% to Avoid a hit. Shield Prs (Best MIX) Defense 877 Absorb 33.7 Block 27% HP +60 PotCount 110 Price: 6 oredo / 4 bellum / 1 enigma 1 Time Mix Fee. 100% chance Success. Summon Muspell (+10) Added Evasion + Block 42% to Avoid a hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkullKid 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2010 Not directly related to the topic but not many people use muspell 10 here due ep limit (ep stop increasing at 88). Most prefer chain lighting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exelicer 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2010 Not directly related to the topic but not many people use muspell 10 here due ep limit (ep stop increasing at 88). Most prefer chain lighting. ya lol evasion + block is not 42% 27% block + 15% evasion = 37,95% to avoid hit And like I said in other thread, there r few wrong things. Btw orbs have a similar gem as shields too now with less block and more abs/def. Prob is, that all caster items r nerfed by alot... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NanoEntity 8 Report post Posted January 29, 2010 Yeah still the numbers are there, might be off by small margin, as i took only the perfect def/abs of the item in calculations. Looking at the aging table says 10% added to def each age on orb. 180 +10% +10 +10 +10.... 20 times = 1200 def if success each time 1-20. Anyways mixed shield is still overall better in my opinion, solo/exp/sod. Hunting full willpower (we all know caster damage sucks the higher your level is) MS is not effected by willpower but weapon min/max damage. And about Summon Muspell Yeah most prs will go for CL and 2 Hand Staff. This is Purely Def comparison using ORB vs Shield. As ORB/shield is mostly used for tanking, not killing speed. Not directly related to the topic but not many people use muspell 10 here due ep limit (ep stop increasing at 88). Most prefer chain lighting. ya lol evasion + block is not 42% 27% block + 15% evasion = 37,95% to avoid hit And like I said in other thread, there r few wrong things. Btw orbs have a similar gem as shields too now with less block and more abs/def. Prob is, that all caster items r nerfed by alot... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exelicer 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2010 Hunting full willpower (we all know caster damage sucks the higher your level is) MS is not effected by willpower but weapon min/max damage. Not on rpt since few days! Prs can kill on high maps too now. Ya MS is still very weak, almost weaker as CL... but well have to live with it I do solo very good xp and only good parties r worth it to join. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luizconan 0 Report post Posted January 30, 2010 You aren't counting on the agility needed to use some high lv boots bracelets or golves.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Menadell 0 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 onde encontro tabela de mix e age rate? aqui no FORUM tem? Aging: http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=101.0 Mix: http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=2228.0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Menadell 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 obrigado Menadell lá na parte dos age tem uma frase assim: - This means there is risk when aging items, so be careful and make sure you have back-up items when your item breaks. o que seria esse back-up dos itens? algum sistema especial do jogo? ou algo totalmente sem valor? Não..tipo.. ele diz que tem chance de quebrar seu item.. então ele aconselha vc ter outro de reserva.. nada do jogo não.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cookie 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2010 obrigado Menadell lá na parte dos age tem uma frase assim: - This means there is risk when aging items, so be careful and make sure you have back-up items when your item breaks. o que seria esse back-up dos itens? algum sistema especial do jogo? ou algo totalmente sem valor? Não..tipo.. ele diz que tem chance de quebrar seu item.. então ele aconselha vc ter outro de reserva.. nada do jogo não.. wth, speak english? wir fangen ja auch nicht an hier deutsch zu reden um euch br-spacken zu ignorieren ô0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Menadell 0 Report post Posted February 11, 2010 obrigado Menadell lá na parte dos age tem uma frase assim: - This means there is risk when aging items, so be careful and make sure you have back-up items when your item breaks. o que seria esse back-up dos itens? algum sistema especial do jogo? ou algo totalmente sem valor? Não..tipo.. ele diz que tem chance de quebrar seu item.. então ele aconselha vc ter outro de reserva.. nada do jogo não.. wth, speak english? wir fangen ja auch nicht an hier deutsch zu reden um euch br-spacken zu ignorieren ô0 he/she just asked something and i answered.. since he/she is br and dont understand english,i answered him in portuguese.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
December 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2010 orb is better more def/abs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mayreen Report post Posted February 12, 2010 orb is better more def/abs Agree 8) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobaldo 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2010 orb is a million times better u can close ur topic ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdwirc 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2010 u forgot that for using these phoenix stuff u gotta put agi... =P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites