Vote! Should Rangers be able to shoot through walls?

[MadTale 763]

Just now, kenibok said:

 

literally that's what you just made on the last things u quoted me. Think its called reflection. You didn't make much arguments, u made affirmations, you can re-read them, also my arguments are weak because... you say so? sorry I don't think that's how it works. 

and bye i guess

 

it's funny because we give you solid arguments to start the discussion, then u come with shit arguments and wants us to make solid arguments based on your shit arguments wtf???

 

it's same situation if you ask someone stronger than you to become weaker in order to you being able to fight lol xD

 

"hey, could pls take it a lil bit easier with me pls? i'm so weak i can't fight same lvl as you"

[kenibok 1,059]

1 minute ago, MadTale said:

 

it's funny because we give you solid arguments to start the discussion, then u come with shit arguments and wants us to make solid arguments based on your shit arguments wtf???

 

it's same situation if you ask someone stronger than you to become weaker in order to you being able to fight lol xD

 

"hey, could pls take it a lil bit easier with me pls? i'm so weak i can't fight same lvl as you"

 

Thought you left

So, again, why are you right and why am I wrong?, "we" arguments are solid and "mines" are shi* because...??  right because right? nope

Also you didn't just made a totally different affirmation about (again) other thing dif than the topic (or any of the other "arguments" you also just said), no ! that's me I forgot

 

 

Ps: who is "we"? and who is "us"? thought i was writing to you

[MadTale 763]

On 6/7/2019 at 9:12 PM, kenibok said:

 

Thought you left

So, again, why are you right and why am I wrong?, "we" arguments are solid and "mines" are shi* because...??  right because right? nope

Also you didn't just made a totally different affirmation about (again) other thing dif than the topic (or any of the other "arguments" you also just said), no ! that's me I forgot

 

 

Ps: who is "we"? and who is "us"? thought i was writing to you

 

fff

[kenibok 1,059]

11 minutes ago, MadTale said:

 

not sure if this topic is damaging your mind or if it's damaged since u born.

 

Insults, this conversation just got serious, arguments and stuff

and as answer, no damage

[MadTale 763]

14 minutes ago, kenibok said:

 

Insults, this conversation just got serious, arguments and stuff

and as answer, no damage

 

dude?? what's your problem for real man.... like SERIOUSLY, what is the problem inside your mind? 

 

1- adm opens topic asking us about rangeds attacking through walls etc etc etc

 

2- pople against it comes to the topic and adds REAL, LOGIC, VISIBLE inputs and defend their side.

 

3- you and your pack of ppl against the changes simply comes and tell there are other stuff to take care like tier 5 and bla bla bla (?????????????????????????????????)

 

4- after all this u still need me to tell you why i'm right and why you're wrong

 

are u actually retard or just pretending to be? 

 

kkkkk 

 

please don't come out to fight against lions if you are a small brained mouse that only hides yourself behind stuff.

 

p.s: considering you clearly doesn't have any text interpretation skills, i' going to explatin this as well

 

when i say "we" and "us" i'm referring to the people with same opinion as mine, that meaning, in favour of changes. 

 

now please go back to school and do it from zero cuz u clearly needing it. 

Edited June 7, 2019 by MadTale

[kenibok 1,059]

28 minutes ago, MadTale said:

 

dude?? what's your problem for real man.... like SERIOUSLY, what is the problem inside your mind? 

 

1- adm opens topic asking us about rangeds attacking through walls etc etc etc

 

2- pople against it comes to the topic and adds REAL, LOGIC, VISIBLE inputs and defend their side.

 

3- you and your pack of ppl against the changes simply comes and tell there are other stuff to take care like tier 5 and bla bla bla (?????????????????????????????????)

 

4- u ask me why i'm right and u wrong

 

are u actually retard or just pretending to be? 

 

kkkkk 

If you take a minute to re-read what both wrote, you may realize that the ways we went out of the topic were stated by you, I tried to argument (real argument) dif to them, you kept on changing subject so here we are

Again, omg, "you and your pack of ppl" Ad hominem (in this case, the people u don't agree with), REAL, LOGIC, VISIBLE because? you and only you say so (I'm trying to tell you its not an argument, that's not how they work), I understood, I made allusion to "we" and "us" because of Ad populism trying to get you to talk to me since I was talking to you, Im not answering to a group, they may not have your same -so called- arguments.

All this time I've tried to get just one argument to the affirmations u made, or against mine, but here we are.

So as far as this has gone, I don't think you are able to understand me, or each other so there's no point on this, simply not working, the topic deserves other people talking so pls don't replay to me, I won't replay to you

 

Ps: There's no problem w my mind and I don't think there's retards here, and I suggest calm a bit, its not that serious

Edited June 7, 2019 by kenibok
other post changed D:

[xXxRazieLxXx 166]

Each class need to have its role.

tankers = no damage

Damage dealers = no tank

 and of course hybrids

 

 

AS is the purest of the damage dealers

[Hawaii2 616]

4 hours ago, xXxRazieLxXx said:

Each class need to have its role.

tankers = no damage

Damage dealers = no tank

 and of course hybrids

 

 

AS is the purest of the damage dealers

Yea. it starts happening the moment you choose your character.

 

Melee = Tankable

DPS = Dmg / Low hp 

 

Don't argue not being hit by mobs = abuse / not fairplay ( because you are not suppose to let mobs hit you since you are DPS with low hp )

So it works everything as a team. The melee will tank them, DPS deals the damage. ( Teamwork )

Together they gain exp ! Fair and square.

[WarLord 87]

11 minutes ago, Hawaii2 said:

Yea. it starts happening the moment you choose your character.

 

Melee = Tankable

DPS = Dmg / Low hp 

 

Don't argue not being hit by mobs = abuse / not fairplay ( because you are not suppose to let mobs hit you since you are DPS with low hp )

So it works everything as a team. The melee will tank them, DPS deals the damage. ( Teamwork )

Together they gain exp ! Fair and square.

 

4 hours ago, xXxRazieLxXx said:

Each class need to have its role.

tankers = no damage

Damage dealers = no tank

 and of course hybrids

 

 

AS is the purest of the damage dealers

Who set this rule? Wartale?

And what is the fact?

You see in game MS is tanker but he is also a King of Hunter? Do you think it's reasonable?

And as you said every class have special skill and all can stay in pt to make party stronger. I agree with this idea.

=> MS need to be only tanker and in this case, no need to use WALL. OK?

But, we talk about in case that Walls are used as tanker for rangers.

And, As can use armor/shield or not depend on what they choose. If you want highest damge, you need to lower your HP/Defense.

And you can use the Wall (or something like this) to protect you while other classes take shit?

Please do  not try to give the advantage only for 1 or 2 classes. As a result, this server full of rangers for many years. PS, ASS, FS,....almost disappear in pt.

Please make all class balance.

[vinixD 383]

What if staff create a new "armor" between armor and robe, like "cuirass" , it would have a ok defense rate but small absorption , and maybe evasion(or stamina) on spec instead of absorption. Just needed above 120 armor  tier.

The spec would be only for archer, atalanta and mechanician requiring less str and more agi and tal.

Edited June 8, 2019 by vinixD

[Destination 29]

Man this is fuk up all char :))

1st pet aoe damge

prs afk regen problem

now wall

what is next

all focus on whatever class tthat hunt easy try to nerf them that what i see.

Ranger play alone in SS map not easy thought. it is easy because they have their own tanker and regen.

 

 

[Hawaii2 616]

1 hour ago, Destination said:

Man this is fuk up all char :))

1st pet aoe damge

prs afk regen problem

now wall

what is next

all focus on whatever class tthat hunt easy try to nerf them that what i see.

Ranger play alone in SS map not easy thought. it is easy because they have their own tanker and regen.

 

 

i think warlord should take a break. 

when comes to rpg game. everywhere is the same. 

 

1 hour ago, WarLord said:

 

Who set this rule? Wartale?

And what is the fact?

You see in game MS is tanker but he is also a King of Hunter? Do you think it's reasonable?

And as you said every class have special skill and all can stay in pt to make party stronger. I agree with this idea.

=> MS need to be only tanker and in this case, no need to use WALL. OK?

But, we talk about in case that Walls are used as tanker for rangers.

And, As can use armor/shield or not depend on what they choose. If you want highest damge, you need to lower your HP/Defense.

And you can use the Wall (or something like this) to protect you while other classes take shit?

Please do  not try to give the advantage only for 1 or 2 classes. As a result, this server full of rangers for many years. PS, ASS, FS,....almost disappear in pt.

Please make all class balance.

To be honest, after looking at your comments. i think this game doesn’t suit you bro. you should play farmvilla/hay day. Grow some vegetables, look after some chicken. Its a fairplay ?

Edited June 8, 2019 by Hawaii2

[WarLord 87]

25 minutes ago, Hawaii2 said:

i think warlord should take a break. 

 

To be honest, after looking at your comments. i think this game doesn’t suit you bro. you should play farmvilla/hay day. Grow some vegetables, look after some chicken. Its a fairplay ?

So, GM is the one who make this topic.

 

So, do you think he need to take a break?

 

They already said that they do not want Auto MS or AS rule new Map like previous Map.

 

And they already did something.

 

And now they continue to improve the game.

 

Do you think they should close the server to take a break?

 

Until now, many persons vote No: 53 vs 38 while server is full of rangers. Many rangers also vote NO. 

 

You are the people who ask others to do something to keep the advantage.

• You ask me to change class.
• You ask me to take a break. 

 

You ask that because you can not bring good reason to protect your idea.

 

In a real life, people said it "Personal Benefit" or "Group Benefit" for persons who try to keep their benefit only

 

It make the distance between rich people and poor people.

 

So, if you can not say something reasonably or have ideas, suggestions, solutions... you just keep silent is better choice.

 

Edited June 8, 2019 by WarLord

[Hawaii2 616]

12 minutes ago, WarLord said:

So, GM is the one who make this topic.

 

So, do you think he need to take a break?

 

They already said that they do not want Auto MS or AS rule new Map like previous Map.

 

And they already did something.

 

And now they continue to improve the game.

 

Do you think they should close the server to take a break?

 

Until now, many persons vote No: 53 vs 38 while server is full of rangers. Many rangers also vote NO. 

 

You are the people who ask others to do something to keep the advantage.

• You ask me to change class.
• You ask me to take a break. 

 

You ask that because you can not bring good reason to protect your idea.

 

In a real life, people said it "Personal Benefit" or "Group Benefit" for persons who take other benefits for their benefits only.

 

It make the distance between rich people and poor people.

 

So, if you can not say something reasonably or have ideas, suggestions, solutions... you just keep silent is better choice.

 

Can you explain to me what is personal benefit? im king of afk in ric. dont report me when i afk in ric(because i dont know what benefits me) you are the one who wanted changes badly. wanted all classes to be the same, can you tell me why are you selling fs now? lol. because for what i can see from the latest update. everything is good as it is. Dont reply more bro. Let everyone think what should be improve ingame. 

Edited June 8, 2019 by Hawaii2

[WarLord 87]

Just now, Hawaii2 said:

Can you explain to me what is personal benefit? im king of afk in ric. dont report me when i afk in ric, you are the one who wanted change to much. wanted all classes to be the same, can you tell me why are you selling fs now? lol. because for what i can see from the latest update. everything is good as it is. 

 

As i said, people said it "Personal Benefit" or "Group Benefit" for persons who try to keep their benefit only.

 

For example, now you want Ms or As to shoot through the wall and no need to get HIT. It's only benefit for rangers. Comparing to other melee class is not fair.

 

I do not the persons who make Zeus Project or make the new gameplay like now, even this vote. PLEASE remember that is many players in this server hope it.

 

And lol, i sell FS is not related to this topic. I have many accounts both rangers and melees class.

 

And you see everything from last update is good but need to do something more. 

 

The World always change everyday and many new innovations come, why do we just keep everything like present?

 

 

[Hawaii2 616]

1 minute ago, WarLord said:

 

As i said, people said it "Personal Benefit" or "Group Benefit" for persons who try to keep their benefit only.

 

For example, now you want Ms or As to shoot through the wall and no need to get HIT. It's only benefit for rangers. Comparing to other melee class is not fair.

 

I do not the persons who make Zeus Project or make the new gameplay like now, even this vote. PLEASE remember that is many players in this server hope it.

 

And lol, i sell FS is not related to this topic. I have many accounts both rangers and melees class.

 

And you see everything from last update is good but need to do something more. 

 

The World always change everyday and many new innovations come, why do we just keep everything like present?

 

 

Ok noted. Give some idea rather than making all classes the same.

[geohound 49]

if you are about taking away wall trick from rangers for being unrealistic, Please give them back  Crystal/Summon Pet option to survive. They are named Ranger for a reason, even in other games, they have something like "Trap" tools to keep monsters away from them for a certain amount of time to kill. Unlike melee-heavy tank/close combat, ranger can still easily die even when they wear armor. The whole "wearing armor, shooting monster at close range like melee, potting like hell just try to not die" thing is really weird and stupid for ranger class if you ask me.

[thunga 4]

3 hours ago, geohound said:

nếu bạn định lấy đi mánh khóe trên tường từ các kiểm lâm viên vì không thực tế, vui lòng cung cấp lại cho họ tùy chọn Crystal / Summon Pet để sống sót. Chúng được đặt tên là Ranger vì một lý do, ngay cả trong các trò chơi khác, chúng có công cụ như "Bẫy" để giữ quái vật tránh xa chúng trong một khoảng thời gian nhất định để giết. Không giống như xe tăng hạng nặng / cận chiến, kiểm lâm vẫn có thể dễ dàng chết ngay cả khi họ mặc áo giáp. Toàn bộ "mặc áo giáp, bắn quái vật ở cự ly gần như cận chiến, bầu như địa ngục chỉ cố gắng không chết" là điều thực sự kỳ lạ và ngu ngốc đối với lớp kiểm lâm nếu bạn hỏi tôi.

+1

[Akuma 157]

5 hours ago, WarLord said:

So, GM is the one who make this topic.

 

So, do you think he need to take a break?

 

They already said that they do not want Auto MS or AS rule new Map like previous Map.

 

And they already did something.

 

And now they continue to improve the game.

 

Do you think they should close the server to take a break?

 

Until now, many persons vote No: 53 vs 38 while server is full of rangers. Many rangers also vote NO. 

 

You are the people who ask others to do something to keep the advantage.

• You ask me to change class.
• You ask me to take a break. 

 

You ask that because you can not bring good reason to protect your idea.

 

In a real life, people said it "Personal Benefit" or "Group Benefit" for persons who try to keep their benefit only

 

It make the distance between rich people and poor people.

 

So, if you can not say something reasonably or have ideas, suggestions, solutions... you just keep silent is better choice.

 

Why do you type something then " . "and press enter ? Write it like a text, would be better for understanding, and less annoying .

Edited June 8, 2019 by Akuma

[WarLord 87]

26 minutes ago, Akuma said:

Why do you type something then " . "and press enter ? Write it like a text, would be better for understanding, and less annoying .

You mean i need to write as a paragraph.

I do not write an essay.

I write with him as chatting, talking.

 

[Clem 1,241]

2 minutes ago, WarLord said:

You mean i need to write as a paragraph.

I do not write an essay.

I write with him as chatting, talking.

 

I like the way how you are writing, more clear to read it !

Edited June 8, 2019 by Clem

[Dookie 489]

I have AS, and trapping a monster on walls is a "skill or talent" not all rangers can do it! specially if they hunt (boss or just regular hunting map). For this topic, I will say yes to the staff!

 

Most of the arguments here doesn't understand what staff wants to talk about. Quoting some skills, damage, etc without thinking!

[- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,760]

9 hours ago, geohound said:

if you are about taking away wall trick from rangers for being unrealistic, Please give them back  Crystal/Summon Pet option to survive. They are named Ranger for a reason, even in other games, they have something like "Trap" tools to keep monsters away from them for a certain amount of time to kill. Unlike melee-heavy tank/close combat, ranger can still easily die even when they wear armor. The whole "wearing armor, shooting monster at close range like melee, potting like hell just try to not die" thing is really weird and stupid for ranger class if you ask me.

I was thinking in something like that a few days ago, i thought in a revamp for Elemental shot skill for Archers, the cast animation could be like thunder roop from the official server T5, and, instead of two shots with dif elements, it would be one shot with both lightning and fire element [ the effect could be a ball of fire and lightning, like a smaller morning pray effect(without the magic symbols) + flame effect + lightning effect] and it work like a black hole, pulling mobs to inside the ball for a period of time, stucking them inside it and causing damage over time(burning effect), it could last for 4 sec-5 sec with a 20 sec delay, and it would be a nicr combo with perfuration.

Anyway it would require a lot of balance, since players are already saying that archer is OP.

 

[ForYeri 148]

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The whole "wearing armor, shooting monster at close range like melee, potting like hell just try to not die" thing is really weird and stupid for ranger class if you ask me.

 

[Takasugi 1]

No is for logic.
And yes for this game cuz it's an old private server game and lack of ppls play this game where you cant find any tank for you? What do you guys expect from ranger classes? Wearing Armor and use BOW and melee beat the s*** out of mobs? Yeah im not archer any more now im fighter use BOW to melee killing mobs.
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