About T5

[ibben 0]

First if all, Prs is OP. They dont need good AoE since they can get partys everywhere they go. They can easy tank ad2 since they got VL, and a mage with no VL dies within seconds. They are awsome hunters agianst Undead monsters, enough said.

 

During the recent days I have been taking matters in my own hands. Talking with the ppl who are currently testing and developing mages t5. And if all goes as it should, I will be very pleased (not gonna say more eHUHAUHAUEHAUEHUEHuehuhua).

 

T5 is promising but we need a boost on Death Ray, and no1 can tell when its gonna happen, a week? a month? a year? Wartale has loads of things to do and I dont think fixing one of many problem that mages has is on his mind. At least for now when all is focused around T5.

 

[Zero 0]

First if all, Prs is OP. They dont need good AoE since they can get partys everywhere they go. They can easy tank ad2 since they got VL, and a mage with no VL dies within seconds. They are awsome hunters agianst Undead monsters, enough said.

 

During the recent days I have been taking matters in my own hands. Talking with the ppl who are currently testing and developing mages t5. And if all goes as it should, I will be very pleased (not gonna say more eHUHAUHAUEHAUEHUEHuehuhua).

 

T5 is promising but we need a boost on Death Ray, and no1 can tell when its gonna happen, a week? a month? a year? Wartale has loads of things to do and I dont think fixing one of many problem that mages has is on his mind. At least for now when all is focused around T5.

 

If the party is full? If they already have a prs?

 

Wartale has been pretty good at addressing the class issues as of late, especially with 3R's help who you might note is primarily a mage nowadays. It might take time since he will be busy with t5, but t5 at the least [since you seem so excited about it now] should hold you over until then.

 

Again bringing up the one thing we actually are OP against while glossing over the fact we're incredibly weak against everything else. That is like saying mages don't need to tank at all since they can just get a prs to VL them [and you can do that yourself with a mule acc]. No one wants to be 100% dependent on others to do anything, which is why everyone wants their class to do everything good enough to manage in the skill balance topics. People have the perception prs should VL and nothing else, I want to play the game too you know not just watch everyone else play it.

 

I'm all for helping mages or any class I think needs a fair boost, but its awfully difficult to do so when you want to kick my class in the garbage for some kind of skewed perception. I'd prefer to debate on how we can fix what the real issues are like ES then over why neither magic class is OP.

[randyhuynh 0]

out of all class, mage have suck the most for the longest

 

dont say fucking mech archer prs and shit

 

they can atleast tank a little or kill in PvE and PVP

 

mage cant do any of those in bc and mage cant hunt, dont bring bullshit like, mage can exp blah blah, exp is the boring part and everyone knows that, lets hope t5 make mage better, then we can debate after.

[Zero 0]

out of all class, mage have suck the most for the longest

 

dont say fruiting mech archer prs and shit

 

they can atleast tank a little or kill in PvE and PVP

 

mage cant do any of those in bc and mage cant hunt, dont bring bullshit like, mage can exp blah blah, exp is the boring part and everyone knows that, lets hope t5 make mage better, then we can debate after.

 

I didn't say I disagreed with this [mages have sucked for awhile], this is actually what I was hoping for [just wait for t5 and the other developments, see how it works].

[tequila 0]

T5 for mages SUX, I agree... but about 1x1...

 

http://www.realmpt.com/development

77 Magician 1 on 1 Improvement Improvement of 1 on 1 play for Magicians Update Low In Dev

 

[Zero 0]

T5 for mages SUX, I agree... but about 1x1...

 

http://www.realmpt.com/development

77 Magician 1 on 1 Improvement Improvement of 1 on 1 play for Magicians Update Low In Dev

 

According to some people it might even be pretty strong. We already know what is on the website doesn't reflect all that changed with the skills over time. In short, its just outdated info that gives us a basic idea of things. The only thing we can do is wait and see until we can try it ourselves.

[Melocrie 0]

Keep in mind that the t5 skill stats aren't final, we all need to test the skills first before they can be balanced. And that they will.

[ibben 0]

First if all, Prs is OP. They dont need good AoE since they can get partys everywhere they go. They can easy tank ad2 since they got VL, and a mage with no VL dies within seconds. They are awsome hunters agianst Undead monsters, enough said.

 

During the recent days I have been taking matters in my own hands. Talking with the ppl who are currently testing and developing mages t5. And if all goes as it should, I will be very pleased (not gonna say more eHUHAUHAUEHAUEHUEHuehuhua).

 

T5 is promising but we need a boost on Death Ray, and no1 can tell when its gonna happen, a week? a month? a year? Wartale has loads of things to do and I dont think fixing one of many problem that mages has is on his mind. At least for now when all is focused around T5.

 

If the party is full? If they already have a prs?

 

Wartale has been pretty good at addressing the class issues as of late, especially with 3R's help who you might note is primarily a mage nowadays. It might take time since he will be busy with t5, but t5 at the least [since you seem so excited about it now] should hold you over until then.

 

Again bringing up the one thing we actually are OP against while glossing over the fact we're incredibly weak against everything else. That is like saying mages don't need to tank at all since they can just get a prs to VL them [and you can do that yourself with a mule acc]. No one wants to be 100% dependent on others to do anything, which is why everyone wants their class to do everything good enough to manage in the skill balance topics. People have the perception prs should VL and nothing else, I want to play the game too you know not just watch everyone else play it.

 

I'm all for helping mages or any class I think needs a fair boost, but its awfully difficult to do so when you want to kick my class in the garbage for some kind of skewed perception. I'd prefer to debate on how we can fix what the real issues are like ES then over why neither magic class is OP.

 

Man, ofc its easier for a prs to get party!?!? You kidding with me, check the chat, always "need prs ad1, ft2, ad2" etc.

 

3R? You mean that nuub mage who always running around in his +18 wand and footballshirt? He sucks, I rape him each day, all day in sod! / V

 

Problem is, that prs has never been a bad character? they can easy xp and easy hunt. Mages can only, and I repeat ONLY xp at the moment. That is why prs are OP imo. You say magic classes should be balanced, well they are far from it, prs is OP while mages ar crap atm. Just check all the replys here in this thread, many ppl feel that way.

But a change is comming so all we can do is to be patient and enjoy the game.

 

=D

 

 

 

 

[bobaldo 0]

Ibben, you cry way too much.

 

T5 is not even done. Just stop being such a cry baby, really.

 

Mage's tier 5 is pretty interesting, you just have to understand the skills a bit more.

 

Before you say anything like "Ohhhh I play mage since 2002", I play mage since 2002 too

[Edgardo 0]

easy guys, easy...

 

I dunno if i said it before, but it will depend on how Death ray will be modified.

 

Probably it will happen after all t5 skills are released, and it could be after archer dmg formula and pvp improvement, so it may take long.

 

So, until we see DR's new face there's no point discussing.

 

I must confess i can't wait for that day, but i'll be patient.

[ibben 0]

Ibben, you cry way too much.

 

T5 is not even done. Just stop being such a cry baby, really.

 

Mage's tier 5 is pretty interesting, you just have to understand the skills a bit more.

 

Before you say anything like "Ohhhh I play mage since 2002", I play mage since 2002 too

 

I don't cry.

I am a realist.

 

Thanks =D

[fireside 0]

I think the stone spike skill has been written up wrong on the website. Look at in on the website > http://www.realmpt.com/skills/magician/tier5#skills you may notice that there is a column missing (the upgrade fee). However if you move all the data in the other fields to the right it would make more sense. Therefore the damage column is missing. So maybe mages are getting strong attack spell so stop raging 

[ibben 0]

I think the stone spike skill has been written up wrong on the website. Look at in on the website > http://www.realmpt.com/skills/magician/tier5#skills you may notice that there is a column missing (the upgrade fee). However if you move all the data in the other fields to the right it would make more sense. Therefore the damage column is missing. So maybe mages are getting strong attack spell so stop raging 

 

Stone spike will be stronger than dias.

 

Fact.