About T5

[arowana 0]

As you see, T5 is finally release. I create this topic in order to view your ideas about it and how you will rebuilt your mage or make an improvement about him  ;D.

For now, I haven't finished my quest yet, so I can't say anything . But I think that I'll replace MM with MS-Magic Source since they have better benefit and we don't need that much MP  8).

My English sucks so please forgive if you find any mistake 

[mits4610 0]

just fyi, only the quest was released.  none of the skills are finalized / available yet.

[martual 1]

just wait for another month or so

[Qwertronic 0]

Pikes getting their atk rating boost though! But then...is it based on weapon or your total atk rtg?

[ibben 0]

As you see, T5 is finally release. I create this topic in order to view your ideas about it and how you will rebuilt your mage or make an improvement about him  ;D.

For now, I haven't finished my quest yet, so I can't say anything . But I think that I'll replace MM with MS-Magic Source since they have better benefit and we don't need that much MP  8).

My English sucks so please forgive if you find any mistake 

 

Well to be honest, mgs t5 looks crap.

 

Prs are getting ice meteorite (rip off from our meteorite) and with a higher dmg and more AOE than dias. So why party a mage when prs has VL + better AOE?

Fact: Mgs Dias is Area 145. Prs Ice Meteorite will be Area 160.

 

Prs is also getting Thunderstorm (rip off from our flame wave). How come prs are getting the best skills of mgs?

 

We dont get shit:

 

Magic Source: We dont need more mana or stamina. Useless skill.

Amplify. Crap skill since mgs has no good 1 vs 1 skill. Useless as well. (I know there are rumors about DR will be buffed, but still no1 knows when)

Stone Spike. CRAP CRAP CRAP and more CRAP. Useless skill.

Execration: "Monsters will immediately focus to kill the caster." So if we use it in et3 we die instantly, same for ad2. CRAP. Useless skill.

 

Haha I know I am kinda negative, but heey guess what! Pris is getting all our good skills, and we, well we get shit.

 

Wartale give us VL then we can start talking.

 

Over and out.

 

 

[ExDemon 0]

As you see, T5 is finally release. I create this topic in order to view your ideas about it and how you will rebuilt your mage or make an improvement about him  ;D.

For now, I haven't finished my quest yet, so I can't say anything . But I think that I'll replace MM with MS-Magic Source since they have better benefit and we don't need that much MP  8).

My English sucks so please forgive if you find any mistake 

 

Well to be honest, mgs t5 looks crap.

 

Prs are getting ice meteorite (rip off from our meteorite) and with a higher dmg and more AOE than dias. So why party a mage when prs has VL + better AOE?

Fact: Mgs Dias is Area 145. Prs Ice Meteorite will be Area 160.

 

Prs is also getting Thunderstorm (rip off from our flame wave). How come prs are getting the best skills of mgs?

 

We dont get shit:

 

Magic Source: We dont need more mana or stamina. Useless skill.

Amplify. Crap skill since mgs has no good 1 vs 1 skill. Useless as well. (I know there are rumors about DR will be buffed, but still no1 knows when)

Stone Spike. CRAP CRAP CRAP and more CRAP. Useless skill.

Execration: "Monsters will immediately focus to kill the caster." So if we use it in et3 we die instantly, same for ad2. CRAP. Useless skill.

 

Haha I know I am kinda negative, but heey guess what! Pris is getting all our good skills, and we, well we get shit.

 

Wartale give us VL then we can start talking.

 

Over and out.

 

have you tried using t5 mgs skills?

[Immortal 40]

Mage T5 skills are awesome and so is every class T5.

[ibben 0]

Mage T5 skills are awesome and so is every class T5.

 

Please I beg you, tell me how it is awsome?

Magic Source is CRAP, I play a lvl 128 mage with full 120 near perf items aged +17, full lvl115 set. I have no use for that skill what so ever.

And for the rest of the skills they are CRAP also.

 

And Please I beg you once more, tell my why Prs is getting Mages best skills?

 

You have to excuse me for my bitter words, but I have played mage since ept 2002. Soon 9 years playing a mage on different realms.

And I can not belive what I am seeing, PRS getting Over-Powered once more and on top off that they are getting it from OUR skills.

Imagine a pris with VL and Ice meteore, no need to never have a mage in the party?

 

I think Wartale hates mages, why? I don't know, maybe he got ksed by mgs back in ept.

 

Thanks

 

[martual 1]

Mgs in rpt jst simply a joke class. Meant to be powerful than prs in anyway but apparently is not due to low def n cnt tank at all.

 

Prs - low atk pow but string buff

Mgs - high atk pow but weak buff

 

This should be the way but apparently only prs achive its goal and not mgs. Sad to say

[Immortal 40]

Use your brain and they will be awesome, dont expect GM Powers from T5, lol. SRSLY, look at the skills descriptions once again, use them wisely.

[ibben 0]

Use your brain and they will be awesome, dont expect GM Powers from T5, lol. SRSLY, look at the skills descriptions once again, use them wisely.

 

I have looked at them, and calculated.

 

I suggest you do the same.

 

But, that does not change the fact why PRS is getting a super mega over power boost in skills. But then I can just classchange and problem will be solved.

 

Fact is that the mgs skills are to bad, the dmg on stone spike is bad, as I said before magic source is total useless since we already have 3-4k mana. And the rest sucks, do you know how many seconds a mgs can stay alive with whole ad2 hs spawn o him with no VL. I can tell you that and it is 1-2 seconds. So when using execration and VL goes out death comes almost instant.

 

I don't know if you play a mage but maybe you should try to play a "good" mage, not some crap lvl11x mage with decent gear.

Then you will see that our t5, is completely useless. If you think different, then please explain to me so I can stay and play mage =)

 

Thanks

 

 

[ibben 0]

Mgs in rpt jst simply a joke class. Meant to be powerful than prs in anyway but apparently is not due to low def n cnt tank at all.

 

Prs - low atk pow but string buff

Mgs - high atk pow but weak buff

 

This should be the way but apparently only prs achive its goal and not mgs. Sad to say

 

+1

 

Sad =( but true...

[martual 1]

Use your brain and they will be awesome, dont expect GM Powers from T5, lol. SRSLY, look at the skills descriptions once again, use them wisely.

 

dont ask those who played the class to use their brain ... dont sound so mean buddy

[cuteako316 12]

Mgs in rpt jst simply a joke class. Meant to be powerful than prs in anyway but apparently is not due to low def n cnt tank at all.

 

Prs - low atk pow but string buff

Mgs - high atk pow but weak buff

 

This should be the way but apparently only prs achive its goal and not mgs. Sad to say

 

+1

 

Sad =( but true...

 

+1 to this..experienced it myself..

 

 

plus, i saw the t5 skills and it really makes me sad.

 

+ i saw that amplify skill...it is so weird when i saw that movie it increase my attack power? not my magic? so is that mean we should do normal attack now? and boosts str  ;D sorry for being sarcastic but i totally agree

 

 

But i hope in the future it will be changed to a better one

[ibben 0]

Once agian I am sorry for my bitter responds. But I am soooo disappointed that PRS get buffed all the time, and mages still suck.

 

It is as Martual says, mages are suppose to have good AOE and tank well. Atm in rpt pris tanks waaaaay better than mgs, cause they got VL ofc. And with t5 they will have a stronger AOE than mgs. I mean wtf?!

 

Mage class will be even more dead than it is now, are we gonna let that happen?

[yamiex 0]

It is really sad to see it. This was the chance to rectify the disadvantage

the magician has ever since.

 

If this keeps up

will still be more unbalanced.

 

The Stone Spikes damage has already been revealed? Since the table is the skill

missing a column, I believe that is the information of the damage.

 

Let's hope, as the skills will be implemented gradually there will be opportunities to change anything.

 

Wartale help improve the lives of mages = (

 

 

[ExDemon 0]

It is really sad to see it. This was the chance to rectify the disadvantage

the magician has ever since.

 

If this keeps up

will still be more unbalanced.

 

The Stone Spikes damage has already been revealed? Since the table is the skill

missing a column, I believe that is the information of the damage.

 

Let's hope, as the skills will be implemented gradually there will be opportunities to change anything.

 

Wartale help improve the lives of mages = (

 

i believe he will

[cuteako316 12]

I hope skills would still be changed in the future  :-[

[syhakiel 0]

its simple guys if your getting crap of those skills of the mages then quit mage and create another class its simple as that guys.. ;D

[TripleR 0]

Relax, guys.

 

 

What you see on the website is not even close to reality. It's obvious that prs won't have better AOE than mages.

[ibben 0]

Relax, guys.

 

 

What you see on the website is not even close to reality. It's obvious that prs won't have better AOE than mages.

 

Sweet =)

 

[Edgardo 0]

Hum...

 

You are part right, 3R.

 

Actually, t5 was though in other moment, and the numbers are far from certain, if they actually aren't already other!

 

However, you must agree, that when it comes to screw up mages, there's no mercy at all.

 

I'm not saying prs don't deserve a boost. they indeed do need a boost. But it's totally possible mages will be screwed again, because mage is not supposed to be a pvp class, nobody plays mage, and the melee blablabla cry you already know. Even the change in DR will be cried to the death, until mage gets screwed up again, as it's supposed to be.

 

i really don't like it, but i no longer believe it will change.

[juice 0]

Really, if mage gets screwed up, im going for a class change

[topher 0]

The true is, priests need a big boost and mages need a even bigger boost.

I agree with you ibben, but what cannot be made is screw up priests to be equivalent fucked as mages.

But I believe in sandurr capacity, he won't screw up the mages.

[Zero 0]

Once agian I am sorry for my bitter responds. But I am soooo disappointed that PRS get buffed all the time, and mages still suck.

 

It is as Martual says, mages are suppose to have good AOE and tank well. Atm in rpt pris tanks waaaaay better than mgs, cause they got VL ofc. And with t5 they will have a stronger AOE than mgs. I mean wtf?!

 

Mage class will be even more dead than it is now, are we gonna let that happen?

 

If you could stop raging for 10 seconds and objectively look at the skills then maybe you could find some decent line of thinking.

 

PRS get buffed all the time? Ya, that is why we're like 7th atm in terms of AoE power, do you know how weak and limited CL is?

 

Mgs is clearly getting a good 1 v 1 boost, both in t5 and in development. You will have better 1 v 1, you have better AoE and you think that prs is somehow OP. If your tanking were fixed then think, you'd have better 1 v 1, AoE and could tank the same as a prs [not to mention they can VL you too] and you're the one at a disadvantage? lol? The future is a lot more promising for mgs than prs. Even if our AoE should rival yours its well deserved, we can't do jack in terms of AoE or 1 v 1 atm, so if you get way better 1 v 1, its only natural we should be able to AoE just as good.

 

This is also why we had skill balance topics, if ES were fixed you could tank fine again. Someone suggested to not make the hp to mp ratio 1:1, then I suggested to reduce their mp costs on skills and with that your tanking would be perfectly fine.

 

I don't see why you're trying to make Prs out to be some villain. Sure its your counterpart as the only other magic class, but keep in mind the imbalance problems atm comes in with melee vs magic classes, not mage vs prs. You would be smart to realize mage/prs need to work together in asking for making the magic classes less crap rather than fight over who is the worst class in the game.

 

I sure hope you don't take to this manner of complaining when prs get t5, its about time we were able to support ourselves some.

 

We're not even sure what stone spike is or how powerful it will be as an AoE and you're already throwing in the towel and labeling the tier as crap before you can even see what it does. Wait for the skills then see what is and isn't OP.