About FS after last UPDATE

[bakintosh 19]

Im playin FS all time i have played this game from 2003! all this time Fighter had only 2 skills Bone Crash and Avenging Crash (90% Ave Crash )AND DESTROYER WITH 90% MISS ATACK! All this years (16years!!!! lol ) Happened MIRACLE ! Was fixed skil from T2 Rage of Zecram! I think very many people was waiting something new on Fighter! Until new map released - it was still USELESS if compare BC and AC but still NICELY cuz new....let it be...even this! Alright - new map -> Zecram works nice there, dunno why people still not use it on FS! just check the dmg digits on mob no need to try feel with ur 6th sense is it faster than AC or BC...just check digits! It is SAME AT LEAST or like i think on 15-20% u kill faster with ZZecram all mobs!except Rock and Demoss. All nice i know few more guys who is very happy what Zecram works in new map! In all other maps, bc, hg anywhere it is is still useless! And why this post??? After this last update it is NERFED! GOD DAMN! Whyyyyyy whyyyyy so dont like FS GM?? Why even this is nerfed and again need to use 16years old skill! Im already sleep and see this AVE CRASH! boom boom ...boom boom ave crash boom boom!! Nothing new all time for FS and now you took even what u gave before! Now dmg of Zecram in SS became less! Crit still same with Destroyer on some mobs BUT BURN DMG nerfed! I wsa burning for example Phantasm with bel force 100dmg 1sec...now is 80max dmg 1sec burn! @.@ NOT COOL!  now AVE crash is again more usefull in SS! Going 17th year of AVENGING CRASH......Thank you! I know no one will reply here because no one play fighter beacause he have only 1 skill - avenging crash

Edited August 19, 2019 by bakintosh

[disable1000 510]

hi bro i am also fs but i cannot compare regarding rage of zecram since i never build or plan to use it before since i start playing fs... plan to use it but as u stated above, it was nerfed so lets see how wartale comment about this.

[bakintosh 19]

I hope they will react some how! Zecram not made FS god in SS he became maybe better than some other chars there but not best( i mean dmg)! What the problem was to nerf it? ? so they nerfed burn dmg on 20-30 ( was 130 became 100)  depend on mob! so this dmg works 1 sec after hit so its make 8-10 hits in 1sec by 130 before = 1300dmg! now it is 100burn dmg 1sec = 1000! Total dmg became less on 200-300every skill atack! No point again to use it! In total with all misses and sometimes it gives half burn dmg ( not 130-100 but 50-70 ) dunno of what it was depended but some times it was happens! This half dmg wasnt big problem cuz on 90% Zecrm was hit strong! Now??? This skill go back again to useless skills of fs! :):):):) 

I cry every night about fs skills :))) Look at knight so nice combo skill, ks skill when he pierce and pull on side with sword so nice and much more other skills he can use and they are SOOO usefull in BC in PVE everywhere....sorry i really dont know name of skill of other chars! Look at pikeman skill...also some combos and many different skills which are usefull and nice animation which you watching and enjoy! FS??? just boom boom ave crash boom boom T5 FS is Warlord! T6 let it be Avemaster!!!

 

Please GM ❤️  think about Fighter a bit more!  

[xxxholic 30]

FS is God in BC if you know how to use it.

 

It comes with a price, FS is hard to level in SS map. (not just in SS, in SL, DIQ too).

 

Dont use a FS if you plan to focus on levelling.

 

KS had been nerfed a few times previously, please dont compare FS against KS.      A FS can kill a KS easily if you know how to use in BC.

 

Believe me, a 146+ FS can kill a 152 KS easily, and you still complain about FS.

 

 

 

 

[bakintosh 19]

ok let it be! my 153 still die from 144 shaman in bc with last items 24! and some ppl like hunt or lvling not bc ? u should think more waidder! why u not play fs? where is ur fs? with 1 skill 16years AC dont like it? ?

[bakintosh 19]

and this post not about BC at all man! relax!!!!!!!

[TigerShark22 489]

On 8/19/2019 at 4:25 PM, bakintosh said:

ok let it be! my 153 still die from 144 shaman in bc with last items 24! and some ppl like hunt or lvling not bc ? u should think more waidder! why u not play fs? where is ur fs? with 1 skill 16years AC dont like it? ?

 

Im a former fs who moved to ks and ss. I must say fs 1v1 abillities are amazing, 1v1 hunt and pvp, totally overpower those 2 by a huge gap, and that was from the time of 95%  and 160% dmg boost of skills , and not 105% and 160% . Reason why Im not a fs?  the tanking abillity against a group of mobs, -15 abs, 2h weapon mostly, even 1h can't perform enough ( group tanking only, 1v1 tanking was fine, killing AOE and especially 1v1 attacks- super amazing). 

 

If you wanna make fs popular I personally would reduce his damage boost, and increase his abs, but then again, it's just my playstyle, most of the server like classes which their tanking/ killing abillities are like that, they just hate the range of his attacks ( cause they can't be afk/semi afk and must focus  ? in parties ).

Edited August 20, 2019 by TigerShark22

[Wartale 7,375]

Fighter didn't change last update ? (unless there's a bug, which there might have been because Potions weren't hitting sometimes and so attacks weren't hitting sometimes either, this bug is fixed in today's patch)

[disable1000 510]

20 minutes ago, Wartale said:

Fighter didn't change last update ? (unless there's a bug, which there might have been because Potions weren't hitting sometimes and so attacks weren't hitting sometimes either, this bug is fixed in today's patch)

i will try it later to check.. 

 

btw what do mean by saying not hitting sometimes? 

[zecaajp 1]

 

I am FS 141 and I kill 15x in pvp, but this is not important, to level FS has many difficulties, the quests do not favor anything can level just like lure, I have tendonitis is horrible leveling because you have to click and hold straight to running, this makes it very difficult because it hurts ... the skill of the berseker has already been reset the skill abs decrease in character update, yet FS does not tank and is not a good killer up, I just think I should be more aware some details, the ratio of the up and the equipment used by the character, I play FS because I like to use AX I think it's cool, but the ax of -16% of criticism if the sword is +24 and -2% of block, the The difference is that the damage always enters if the FS is attacked, because there is no defense for him or block or evade and when FS hits has to kill soon because if they hit it dies quickly, for those who can not have a draxos for example is complicated ...

[TigerShark22 489]

1 hour ago, zecaajp said:

 

I am FS 141 and I kill 15x in pvp, but this is not important, to level FS has many difficulties, the quests do not favor anything can level just like lure, I have tendonitis is horrible leveling because you have to click and hold straight to running, this makes it very difficult because it hurts ... the skill of the berseker has already been reset the skill abs decrease in character update, yet FS does not tank and is not a good killer up, I just think I should be more aware some details, the ratio of the up and the equipment used by the character, I play FS because I like to use AX I think it's cool, but the ax of -16% of criticism if the sword is +24 and -2% of block, the The difference is that the damage always enters if the FS is attacked, because there is no defense for him or block or evade and when FS hits has to kill soon because if they hit it dies quickly, for those who can not have a draxos for example is complicated ...

 

Not exactly. Fs has the normal deff of armor like anyone else, and a shield, and very high hp. Your default moving is with 1h, and in that mode he isn't easy to kill. 

With 2h, he has advantage of high hp, good for 1v1 pve, and in pvp if its a 1v1 match ( ofc for more he has roar ) , he has advantage and disadvantage over ranges in tanking ( high hp, but easier to hit ), also his up can be good if the GM would make the range of cyclone the same of tornado , his aoe damage is really great, the problem that tankers don't like close ranged chars, and many close ranged chars players don't know exactly the dynamics with the tanker ( gotta make the mobs enter your range, and also to move when the monsters are lured to your direction / for fs to stand behind but almost on the tanker ). I would also reccomand a vampire suit for speed.

Edited August 20, 2019 by TigerShark22

[zecaajp 1]

11 hours ago, TigerShark22 said:

 

Not exactly. Fs has the normal deff of armor like anyone else, and a shield, and very high hp. Your default moving is with 1h, and in that mode he isn't easy to kill. 

With 2h, he has advantage of high hp, good for 1v1 pve, and in pvp if its a 1v1 match ( ofc for more he has roar ) , he has advantage and disadvantage over ranges in tanking ( high hp, but easier to hit ), also his up can be good if the GM would make the range of cyclone the same of tornado , his aoe damage is really great, the problem that tankers don't like close ranged chars, and many close ranged chars players don't know exactly the dynamics with the tanker ( gotta make the mobs enter your range, and also to move when the monsters are lured to your direction / for fs to stand behind but almost on the tanker ). I would also reccomand a vampire suit for speed.

to say that possibly you do not play FS, and if you play accepted pvp, unfortunately you are wrong, AS in Wartale resists more than FS in combat and hits more, because its damage is certain ... I always played FS in pt any other char has additional defenses regardless of whether or not HP is high, saying that FS tanca well is pure fallacy sorry. Shaman for example has HP passive and has ABS skill and hits very fast, But returning to the issue of UP the damage of FS in area is less than the others its range is also smaller depending on the distance that would not reach all and how beats closer using a vampire will not work miracles and the damage the FS receives will go to TANKER so no speculation ... Summing up Fs beats a lot in pvp but catches easy, if you have a draxos resists better ... in UP to run a nice time xp from the FS group has to regret it because it's not a good killer due to its inferior damage ... I'm not asking for anything just reporting my opinion as a FS 14x ...

 

By: Sanfona 

[Hurricane 68]

Indeed, Cyclone is a very good skill comparing to other's chars main AOE. To lvl 13x~14x the best combination to killing in DI is probably  an aged sword (more critical) and brac 106 (more damage) or hell (more critical) using summer/vampire. Personally, i think brac 106 is way better since it adds high damage due to str points you're allowed to increase.

But there''s a few problems about fs killing: First, when the player still don't know how to play nice killing in DI, so the tanker gets killed due to gravitation; Second, when the tanker still don't know how to play nice tankging in DI, so mobs attacks melees and he also gets killed due to gravitation. 

So an increasing in range could solve this problem.

 

Back to Zecram, Cyclone is still better to killing in DI. At SS, I've tested Zecram using sword and it performs really bad becoz miss too many hits, but I guess it works better using axe.

 

Anyway, I don't like the idea of have to choose between Axe + Zecram or Sword + AC, since FS don't really have many active skills to use. It would be very nice to use those skills making combos during fights, both for AOE and 1x1.

Edited August 21, 2019 by Hurricane

[TigerShark22 489]

On 8/21/2019 at 5:28 AM, zecaajp said:

to say that possibly you do not play FS, and if you play accepted pvp, unfortunately you are wrong, AS in Wartale resists more than FS in combat and hits more, because its damage is certain ... I always played FS in pt any other char has additional defenses regardless of whether or not HP is high, saying that FS tanca well is pure fallacy sorry. Shaman for example has HP passive and has ABS skill and hits very fast, But returning to the issue of UP the damage of FS in area is less than the others its range is also smaller depending on the distance that would not reach all and how beats closer using a vampire will not work miracles and the damage the FS receives will go to TANKER so no speculation ... Summing up Fs beats a lot in pvp but catches easy, if you have a draxos resists better ... in UP to run a nice time xp from the FS group has to regret it because it's not a good killer due to its inferior damage ... I'm not asking for anything just reporting my opinion as a FS 14x ...

 

By: Sanfona 

 

I really did play fs, before I sold him, the nick was FighterForLife, 136, used to kill even 14x knights/ mgs , 15x atas with him ( around 2-2.5 years ago , before fs AC , BC, destroyer were boosted , and you even said it earlier yourself, you are a 14x, kill 15x in BC, idk what there is to complain in 1v1 abillities) .

Can keep suggesting what I was trying for ages, reduce the damage boost of AC, BC, destroyer back to 95%\150%, make berkerser add x abs ( GM will see what fits) and increase the range of cyclone, problem solved.

Anyway for now , if you are like a char whos a better tanker, just make a mech/ ks/ss/mg ( mg is more of mass tanking of weaker monsters, not 1v1, the other 3 are good either way though ).