leodmv 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 Well, good afternoon GM´S ADM´S and players. I come here asking for something that was to have been resolved long ago on this server. I know that GM `s are busy because of tier 5 and other stuff too but I think it would have more priority. I'm talking about an old problem ... That's right, here I am now starting a campaign and asking for help from you would help the players to char mech back to what it has always been a consistent character, and a respected char. If the extreme shield was bugged before and it worked ok mech. So why not turn the shield bug extreme? Once the char is today a laughingstock when it comes in BC. And before anyone gets talking mech tanker is not only not. Mech also hits. Yes he hits ... Already tried to repair the mech but I did not give it the attention it deserved the character. Do not you just increase the numbers and say it's good ... That is not what we want ... We want a solution. how to maximize skills, extreme and grand smash shield being buggy is unfortunate. It's easy to turn your back to a char and let him aside. But stop and think! who helps the server are the players. Soon the server is falling short ... Anyway I think this problem has been here long enough and the server is more than time someone did something to fix this. I hope that those who play with other characters also helps. After all, imagine if it was you, if your character was bugged ... What would you do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RauL~ 1 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 yeah dude, im sorry its very sux =( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edgardo 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 Hi leo, Mech is one of the most updated characters in the game. Look at some patches: http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=22082.0 http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=24027.0 http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=29483.0 As you can see, mech suffered many improvements and fixes along time. So surely Wartale didn't forget mechs. You should consider there are 8 classes and all the 8 classes have players who want changes, and everyone should wait. If you look to Bless castle, what class do you see playing? they're most pikeman, knight, fighter. Also, i (at least) see much more mechanics then mage or archer. Forget about the prs role. it's ridiculous. If you talk in respect, what respect have a class which a character is made only to support other characters? it's the case of prs and mage. They do mage only to level up their pikeman. and prs is made only to give vl. It's just hideous! So i think if Wartale had time to pay attention to balancing bless, he should look at the less favoured classes (whose players you don't see in BC). Yeah i know mechanic is kinda screwed. I don't play it but i look around the forum, so i kinda understand you. But saying mech o not have attention, in this way you're talking, is too much. So now, try to think yourself please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leodmv 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 Hi leo, Mech is one of the most updated characters in the game. Look at some patches: http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=22082.0 http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=24027.0 http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=29483.0 As you can see, mech suffered many improvements and fixes along time. So surely Wartale didn't forget mechs. You should consider there are 8 classes and all the 8 classes have players who want changes, and everyone should wait. If you look to Bless castle, what class do you see playing? they're most pikeman, knight, fighter. Also, i (at least) see much more mechanics then mage or archer. Forget about the prs role. it's ridiculous. If you talk in respect, what respect have a class which a character is made only to support other characters? it's the case of prs and mage. They do mage only to level up their pikeman. and prs is made only to give vl. It's just hideous! So i think if Wartale had time to pay attention to balancing bless, he should look at the less favoured classes (whose players you don't see in BC). Yeah i know mechanic is kinda screwed. I don't play it but i look around the forum, so i kinda understand you. But saying mech o not have attention, in this way you're talking, is too much. So now, try to think yourself please. I think you could do the same. I know there are various skills with bugs. But I think every one has to play its role as a player if the character was disfigured think you should lay claim to improve it. Or at least make it work like it should work. ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edgardo 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 Well, you're right. Everyone should fight for their char. I usually do it my way. Now it's time to wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renusi 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 You talk so mush.... I've never saw a Pikeman asking for him defense, so do not ask you atack. Everyone knows that Mechanican defense is very strong but the attack is not so powered. So please don't try to put problems in server and create a Pikeman or Fighter if u want Attack power. I Hate noobs and you are asking for surreal question. MECH IS TANKER! In next time u'll ask for CS for Mech ??!! [sorry bad english, i'm Brazilian] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idanqwe 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 You talk so mush.... I've never saw a Pikeman asking for him defense, so do not ask you atack. Everyone knows that Mechanican defense is very strong but the attack is not so powered. So please don't try to put problems in server and create a Pikeman or Fighter if u want Attack power. I Hate noobs and you are asking for surreal question. MECH IS TANKER! In next time u'll ask for CS for Mech ??!! [sorry bad english, i'm Brazilian] Ehh you better be quiet because you don't know what they're talking about. As an archer I know how is it when all you can do is PVE. Both AS and Mech good at PVE but suck at PVP, so I can understand your frustration (leodmv) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
exonas 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 You talk so mush.... I've never saw a Pikeman asking for him defense, so do not ask you atack. Everyone knows that Mechanican defense is very strong but the attack is not so powered. So please don't try to put problems in server and create a Pikeman or Fighter if u want Attack power. I Hate noobs and you are asking for surreal question. MECH IS TANKER! In next time u'll ask for CS for Mech ??!! [sorry bad english, i'm Brazilian] The reason pikes dont ask for more defense is cus pikes denfense is good. Yes mechs are tanks and they tank very well, in PVE. Mechs suck in PVP cus they have no attack power and they dont tank that well in PVP. If u would have read the other topics around the forum about mechs u would know that they lack in attack power and PVP-ability. So please have the right info before u start calling us noobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RauL~ 1 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 You talk so mush.... I've never saw a Pikeman asking for him defense, so do not ask you atack. Everyone knows that Mechanican defense is very strong but the attack is not so powered. So please don't try to put problems in server and create a Pikeman or Fighter if u want Attack power. I Hate noobs and you are asking for surreal question. MECH IS TANKER! In next time u'll ask for CS for Mech ??!! [sorry bad english, i'm Brazilian] WTF? you need read before post. HERE onwtall class will become full balanced PVP-HUNT-EXP.. so you cant say that. lol Mechs are waiting to be balanced since this server started.. already many patches are gone to make it better.. but is not easy. some day i hopewtget full balanced.. you guys must have to wait.. help you if u can but if you can't help dont worry the staff work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edgardo 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 Lol Renusi, you started the worse way ever! Just go back to the hole of ignorance where you came, or read the forum. thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
exonas 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 Just go back to the hole of ignorance where you came, or read the forum. thanks. hahahah ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulogirao 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 You talk so mush.... I've never saw a Pikeman asking for him defense, so do not ask you atack. Everyone knows that Mechanican defense is very strong but the attack is not so powered. So please don't try to put problems in server and create a Pikeman or Fighter if u want Attack power. I Hate noobs and you are asking for surreal question. MECH IS TANKER! In next time u'll ask for CS for Mech ??!! [sorry bad english, i'm Brazilian] WTF? you need read before post. HERE onwtall class will become full balanced PVP-HUNT-EXP.. so you cant say that. lol Mechs are waiting to be balanced since this server started.. already many patches are gone to make it better.. but is not easy. some day i hopewtget full balanced.. you guys must have to wait.. help you if u can but if you can't help dont worry the staff work. I agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renusi 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 Ya, like a saw. I'am new on this server. But i think if Mech Hit like a Pikeman and Pikeman defends like a Mech, wath's the fun? People asking defense in Archer too.... I don't understand why this questions is going on but if you are talking i'll not intrude. But i disagree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idanqwe 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 Ya, like a saw. I'am new on this server. But i think if Mech Hit like a Pikeman and Pikeman defends like a Mech, wath's the fun? People asking defense in Archer too.... I don't understand why this questions is going on but if you are talking i'll not intrude. But i disagree. There are some unbalanced character that must be fixed, Mech and AS are some of the unbalanced at PVP, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 Ya, like a saw. I'am new on this server. But i think if Mech Hit like a Pikeman and Pikeman defends like a Mech, wath's the fun? People asking defense in Archer too.... I don't understand why this questions is going on but if you are talking i'll not intrude. But i disagree. If you don't know what's about just don't say anything As you said you're new at this, so better read the forums and the whole story about mech before posting comments like these. You'll understand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaynEeE 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 really, mechs sux at pvp my 119 mech don´t tank and don´t kill anything =P at PvE, mech is the best soloing char (IMO) Hunt not so good, PVP = 0 , zero, nada, nothing, nowadays i use my mech only for mule ^^ but not sell because i think that soon or later they´ll fix mechs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zero 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2011 Ya, like a saw. I'am new on this server. But i think if Mech Hit like a Pikeman and Pikeman defends like a Mech, wath's the fun? People asking defense in Archer too.... I don't understand why this questions is going on but if you are talking i'll not intrude. But i disagree. No one said that, but no one also says AS should all be one shot fodder. What we want on mech/AS is a "good enough" mentality for where they were weak. We won't make AS tankers for sure, but they need to be able to do something in return for leveling that class. This is the mentality that is becoming more or less consensus around here, we don't want any char to be "bad" at anything, just "good enough" so they can make ends meet. Where the class differences will come in is where they're "very good" at, like pikeman attack, mech tank, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babyarcher 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2011 Ya, like a saw. I'am new on this server. But i think if Mech Hit like a Pikeman and Pikeman defends like a Mech, wath's the fun? People asking defense in Archer too.... I don't understand why this questions is going on but if you are talking i'll not intrude. But i disagree. mechs can tank in pve, no one is denying that. but mechs have the highest abs, and they can't tank in pvp as well as other chars, say knight. That's why people are asking for a fix. You don't know what people are asking for, so don't act all smartypants and comment that people are asking for "surreal" things, and accusing people of being "noobs" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leodmv 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2011 Ya, like a saw. I'am new on this server. But i think if Mech Hit like a Pikeman and Pikeman defends like a Mech, wath's the fun? People asking defense in Archer too.... I don't understand why this questions is going on but if you are talking i'll not intrude. But i disagree. mechs can tank in pve, no one is denying that. but mechs have the highest abs, and they can't tank in pvp as well as other chars, say knight. That's why people are asking for a fix. You don't know what people are asking for, so don't act all smartypants and comment that people are asking for "surreal" things, and accusing people of being "noobs" Exactly. Thx guys ^^. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QMan 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2011 i understanding about what topic said... yes mech hard to kill other char it can accept for me but mech die easy in BC with mule QMan cant accept!!! if at least one class can tank in BC it should be mech. but now pike with same block shield + weapon defense mast block + evade class4 + good hp formula can tank better than mech WHY? someone say example about archer case maybe he/she forgot in the past how archer request? and now archer got new dmg formula ,block on bow,new hp formula archer has got that and i also agreed with it but why not mech cant request? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babyarcher 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2011 i understanding about what topic said... yes mech hard to kill other char it can accept for me but mech die easy in BC with mule QMan cant accept!!! if at least one class can tank in BC it should be mech. but now pike with same block shield + weapon defense mast block + evade class4 + good hp formula can tank better than mech WHY? someone say example about archer case maybe he/she forgot in the past how archer request? and now archer got new dmg formula ,block on bow,new hp formula archer has got that and i also agreed with it but why not mech cant request? Wartale has already given mechs boosts. It's not like he has completely ignored mechs while he gave other chars the boosts they need. Everyone has different demands for the class, just be patient and wait for t5 to be done, and I'm sure Wartale will make necessary adjustments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted May 18, 2011 Mech doesn't need boost, need fix. The boosting was a fail attempt, the problems mech got are the same Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sarish 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2011 so all what i understand about this QQ is.. some1 think it was fair in old rpt when i was best tank in that time (i died rarely.. really rarely) in whole server, and also best pvper in whole server, means i didnt die in pvp but i could kill all in pvp area, also i could tank alot mobs in pve and even kill at same time.. hey... in my eyes that was not so good thing (kinda boring tho) mechs are maded for tanking but they dont need to be a "char god's" bc with 40 mechs would be nice with old mechs.. u can hit the towers in bc but u wont die if some1 try to kill u... > auto win? guess this went a bit out of topic so im out -> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babyarcher 0 Report post Posted May 18, 2011 so all what i understand about this QQ is.. some1 think it was fair in old rpt when i was best tank in that time (i died rarely.. really rarely) in whole server, and also best pvper in whole server, means i didnt die in pvp but i could kill all in pvp area, also i could tank alot mobs in pve and even kill at same time.. hey... in my eyes that was not so good thing (kinda boring tho) mechs are maded for tanking but they dont need to be a "char god's" bc with 40 mechs would be nice with old mechs.. u can hit the towers in bc but u wont die if some1 try to kill u... > auto win? guess this went a bit out of topic so im out -> no, in essence it's about mech's defenses not working as they should. mechs have the best defense formula in the game, but it doesn't translate into actuality in BC. In PvE, there isn't a problem though, mech's tanking capacities are fine, but in BC mechs can't tank as well as other classes such as knights. There's something definitely wrong there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted May 18, 2011 so all what i understand about this QQ is.. some1 think it was fair in old rpt when i was best tank in that time (i died rarely.. really rarely) in whole server, and also best pvper in whole server, means i didnt die in pvp but i could kill all in pvp area, also i could tank alot mobs in pve and even kill at same time.. hey... in my eyes that was not so good thing (kinda boring tho) mechs are maded for tanking but they dont need to be a "char god's" bc with 40 mechs would be nice with old mechs.. u can hit the towers in bc but u wont die if some1 try to kill u... > auto win? guess this went a bit out of topic so im out -> no, in essence it's about mech's defenses not working as they should. mechs have the best defense formula in the game, but it doesn't translate into actuality in BC. In PvE, there isn't a problem though, mech's tanking capacities are fine, but in BC mechs can't tank as well as other classes such as knights. There's something definitely wrong there. I'd say they don't tank even as much as an atalanta Share this post Link to post Share on other sites