Party play ? Impossible as archer.

[Smilo 109]

I play as archer 15x in SS normally. 

But these times its hard to play as an archer. There are totally overpowered mechs which can do much more dmg than other ranged classes with range skills....

and u have to get yourself 2-3 accounts. You have to get your own tank lvl 144+ to get your main char in a party.

Wolv and crystals are totally useless since they die as fast as the almost naked archer himself...

Theres no chance of getting a party as archer like old days where they were happy to have archers damage or something to tank for the archer. 

Its really getting boring if you got a clan where nobody even answers to get a party and you sit in front of the comp, spamming the trade chat to find a party to go shadow sanctuary finally...

[mcslug2 211]

U can try to get a slot on left side sharing with someone that have lower dmg and tank mobs so u can still lvl there and get some drops, thats one choice that u made to have a powerfull char u dont see auto ms that u claim overpower playing without a tanker, same as archer.

[Smilo 109]

i dont care about the op word. I just wanna play archer without training a mech or priest cause its impossible to get a party without having 2 chars. I play archer cause I like ranged char. Its just impossible to even do the daily without waiting long time to find a party.

[HollyShot 968]

That is just the true, the class needs a tanker to play and still has the damage of a male.  It's no sense to me that a MS can hit 50% more than an archer using bow (main weapon). Ppl dont want add AS in pts because the class is just not a good killer and will decrease the experience gained. Now archer sucks in pve and pvp, i'm not impressed that there are only few archers still trying to play in wartale, it's sad to see a class that has always been popular in pristons dead.

My sugestion to help in PVE is to copy the way of atalantas, i mean add % damage against mutants and undeads too. There are some skills useless in archer like Avalanche and Elemental shot that could be useful for hunt and improve the class.

[Smilo 109]

10 hours ago, HollyShot said:

That is just the true, the class needs a tanker to play and still has the damage of a male.  It's no sense to me that a MS can hit 50% more than an archer using bow (main weapon). Ppl dont want add AS in pts because the class is just not a good killer and will decrease the experience gained. Now archer sucks in pve and pvp, i'm not impressed that there are only few archers still trying to play in wartale, it's sad to see a class that has always been popular in pristons dead.

My sugestion to help in PVE is to copy the way of atalantas, i mean add % damage against mutants and undeads too. There are some skills useless in archer like Avalanche and Elemental shot that could be useful for hunt and improve the class.

+1

[marce2125 107]

Not only AS need tanker to be killer in SS, MS (auto), ATA, PRS (killer build) need one too, only KS/FS/PS/MG and SS can play without tanker.

I have no idea about assassin class.

And about damage i never see anyone in SS complain about AS damage, i only see discriminated prs because of her damage (1 per party) not Archers.

About MS, he is always OP since i started to play here, 2013.

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8 minutes ago, marce2125 said:

Not only AS need tanker to be killer in SS, MS (auto), ATA, PRS (killer build) need one too, only KS/FS/PS/MG and SS can play without tanker.

I have no idea about assassin class.

And about damage i never see anyone in SS complain about AS damage, i only see discriminated prs because of her damage (1 per party) not Archers.

About MS, he is always OP since i started to play here, 2013.

Priest is the best tanker char on 1x1 =p holy mind is essential on shadow sanc.

About her damage, with Staff 142, her damage is balanced if you consider that no one have T5,  her damage is on pair with shaman's scratch ( a little better actually + she can obliterate undeads faster than any char on game), and, thunderstorm will probably be a Damage over time skill or a nuke aoe skill ( like Ls or press deity or venom spear)...

what I'm trying to say is,: Priest will be 100% fine and balanced, but, only with time, since thunderstorm haven't been released yet and staff 142 is still extremely expensive. I don't think she needs a buff though, otherwise she will be godly OP.

[marce2125 107]

I don't say she need a buff, I only said what i see in SS, people saying not pt prs only one in pt, besides only 1 prs have 142 staff, so i can't test yet.

"thunderstorm will probably be a Damage over time skill or a nuke aoe skill", you don't know how will be the skill yet.

And i talking about prs killer not tanker!.

I say to her/him that not only AS need tanker, all rangers need one.

And the only character OP for a long time is MS, you can't deny that!.

 

[HollyShot 968]

10 minutes ago, marce2125 said:

Not only AS need tanker to be killer in SS, MS (auto), ATA, PRS (killer build) need one too, only KS/FS/PS/MG and SS can play without tanker.

I have no idea about assassin class.

And about damage i never see anyone in SS complain about AS damage, i only see discriminated prs because of her damage (1 per party) not Archers.

About MS, he is always OP since i started to play here, 2013.

Yes, for sure auto mech and atalanta need tanker, but they are the two best killers in SS. Archer needs tanker and still has bad damage.

Prs is very important in SS, i exp everyday with shaylee and her damage is good but the most importante her t5 for pt is very stronger.

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1 hour ago, marce2125 said:

 

"thunderstorm will probably be a Damage over time skill or a nuke aoe skill", you don't know how will be the skill..

 

I saw the 2010 preview, it was a mix of Lightning sword with regen field, with something like twice ice meteorite DPs (it had no visual effect though). It can change, of course, but the skill has all thunder's BMG already add to the game...so...  

1 hour ago, marce2125 said:

And i talking about prs killer not tanker!.

I say to her/him that not only AS need tanker,

Prs don't need tanker, pris tanks better than any class in game on 1x1 with holy mind, and i meant the killer Priest with base vit.. better than mage, shaman and Knight too (if you consider without VL).

 

Yes, i Agree, all rangers need tanker and yes, Auto mech is way better than any class on 1x1 damage.

 

I've never struggled to find pt with my priest ( maybe cuz I'm on a big clan), also, in my opinion vigor ball damage is 100% fine, and you  sounded like the char was a piece of cr*p, totally useless, so i might misinterpreted your intentions with that reply.

 

Edit: this is the damage of my priest with super pure build ( 75 str 77 tal 72 agi) with brac 106, t sheltom dmg + greedy ( she has bc crown on that print, but, it would still hit over 10k with staff 142.. this is the damage of shaman's scratch.

 

 

 

Edited January 26, 2020 by - D E A T H S T R O K E -

[Hawaii2 616]

I think both mech/archer game play is the same. Just that mech got a better kill rate than archer.

Both needed tank. i think they purposely make the pet / crystal useless in SS map. the pet can only tank for few hits.

Because of players suggesting nerf-ing this and that. you always have a option for class change or stay loyal to 

the class u like/love.

Edited January 26, 2020 by Hawaii2

[marce2125 107]

1 hour ago, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said:

I saw the 2010 preview, it was a mix of Lightning sword with regen field, with something like twice ice meteorite DPs (it had no visual effect though). It can change, of course, but the skill has all thunder's BMG already add to the game...so...  

Prs don't need tanker, pris tanks better than any class in game on 1x1 with holy mind, and i meant the killer Priest with base vit.. better than mage, shaman and Knight too (if you consider without VL).

 

Yes, i Agree, all rangers need tanker and yes, Auto mech is way better than any class on 1x1 damage.

 

I've never struggled to find pt with my priest ( maybe cuz I'm on a big clan), also, in my opinion vigor ball damage is 100% fine, and you  sounded like the char was a piece of cr*p, totally useless, so i might misinterpreted your intentions with that reply.

 

Edit: this is the damage of my priest with super pure build ( 75 str 77 tal 72 agi) with brac 106, t sheltom dmg + greedy ( she has bc crown on that print, but, it would still hit over 10k with staff 142.. this is the damage of shaman's scratch.

 

 

 

Your prs made 9k all the time???, or she made between 3 and 4k and sometimes 9k?.

I don't said prs is cr*p or unbalanced (it wasn't my intention and i can't say that if i didn't test the new weapon), i just want to prove her/him that archer never denied PT (only for being Archer), the only way archer don't get party is she doesn't have a tanker like ATA for example.

Edited January 26, 2020 by marce2125

[Lyseria 1,823]

I have 15x archer too, you can play solo if you wish but it will be extremely uncomfortable. You must run + pet and wait the aggro RNG focus on the wolf to do a proper dmg. To join the meta you need a tanker in order to play comfortable.

 

About the PRS

 

I've changed my prs build to pure spirit and I got a pretty acceptance in SS, but only 1 prs is needed in the party due the 20% buff. Ive seen so often the same thing that happens in BC, a free mage and archer buffing the main char outside the party, and even ppl putting the prs inside the party for Divine Force then kicking her. Well, this is an valid strategy since it's allowed and ppl has free chars of each class.

 

My dmg using staff 134+22  is around 3.7k~4.5k and 7k~8k dmg on SS mobs, and 17k on undeads, pretty good.

[marce2125 107]

9 minutes ago, Lyseria said:

My dmg using staff 134+22  is around 3.7k~4.5k and 7k~8k dmg on SS mobs, and 17k on undeads, pretty good.

That's the same as my prs full spirit.

Undeads between 11 and 17k.

[-[Grin][Department]- 115]

On 1/25/2020 at 4:25 AM, Smilo said:

I play as archer 15x in SS normally. 

But these times its hard to play as an archer. There are totally overpowered mechs which can do much more dmg than other ranged classes with range skills....

and u have to get yourself 2-3 accounts. You have to get your own tank lvl 144+ to get your main char in a party.

Wolv and crystals are totally useless since they die as fast as the almost naked archer himself...

Theres no chance of getting a party as archer like old days where they were happy to have archers damage or something to tank for the archer. 

Its really getting boring if you got a clan where nobody even answers to get a party and you sit in front of the comp, spamming the trade chat to find a party to go shadow sanctuary finally...

So sad to hear it bro, it really looks bad to see players feels bad about the game.

 

And then the community itselfs says go buy pri and have tank so you can join PT. What a useless point to solve an argument... nerf this nerf that. Op this op that!!!

 

Just find a pt using your as without tank and see those players who will say come and help me kill. And still you can join the PT. There are a lot of players like that, even your clannies are as dumb as whatsoever.