djguina 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 What I do not understand is that the last time it happened again ... Maximize played 200% without tests and toppled in the same week. I believe that tests should be done before going changes. Sincerely, I believe Maximize should be around 100 ~ 125% but the ES would rather get in 40 ~ 50% again ... Another question, because I have 300 + abs, 4k def, and tank as a Hopi. The damage formula should be revised up to as much as for pvp, not only the skills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beaker1337 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 Instead of telling people your trying to fix something, should call it an event Maximize maximize event then if it to OP and you nerf it. Then say Event over Everyone wins this way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 The thing is, you were not even supposed to get any Maximize boost for now. You were supposed to wait for Tier 5 and then Wartale would probably look into mechs' problems (their tanking problem AND their killing problem). But since their killing problem was something easy to fix [just boost Maximize, aka power mechs] and since that's something that is not being addressed in Tier 5, I convinced him to do it already. Now that it's clearly OP I told him to nerf it, I don't want to have an OP class running around 1-shotting people because of something that I started in the first place. So that favouritism thing is complete bullshit. I don't know who made some other classes OP and I don't even care. People are already used to those OP classes, so they can wait for the release of Tier 5 first and then see what still needs to be nerfed. I wonder for how long you're by here to say this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TripleR 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 The thing is, you were not even supposed to get any Maximize boost for now. You were supposed to wait for Tier 5 and then Wartale would probably look into mechs' problems (their tanking problem AND their killing problem). But since their killing problem was something easy to fix [just boost Maximize, aka power mechs] and since that's something that is not being addressed in Tier 5, I convinced him to do it already. Now that it's clearly OP I told him to nerf it, I don't want to have an OP class running around 1-shotting people because of something that I started in the first place. So that favouritism thing is complete bullshit. I don't know who made some other classes OP and I don't even care. People are already used to those OP classes, so they can wait for the release of Tier 5 first and then see what still needs to be nerfed. I wonder for how long you're by here to say this Say what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Easy4me2own 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 i want archer formula change and mage 1:1 boost. waiting for months now >.< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vodkawolf 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 gtfo this is ms topic not as/mgs. kthnxbaii Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JotaPe 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 Just a comment... MECHANIC IS A TANKER CHAR! If u not played just Priston Tale in ur life, u will know what i think! if u dont know that, now u know! gtfo troll.. i bet gogg knows more 'bout mech then you are u sure? how u know? U kno Gogg, ok, but u know me? expert. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vodkawolf 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 ur still a troll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zero 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 i want archer formula change and mage 1:1 boost. waiting for months now >.< Archers have received enough to hold them over for a while. They're not perfect, but its enough to hold them until t5 is over with, we've updated them tons already. Mgs 1 v 1 is already addressed in t5. The point? Lets wait until t5 is finished before we start complaining and moaning over what to change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaynEeE 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 simple fix mechs so they can TANK and Nerf Maximize to 100% =) def / abs mechs on pvp just don´t work but, yesterday, i was at BC with Fonsi, my friends Mech lvl 131 I killed almost every single 12x with just 1 hit, with VL + Chimera i got 1614 HP but some others mechs still killing me easly, just like hitrunners Pikes... so, with this new change, mech kill, but mech still die fast.. the point is, tank ability has to be fixed maximize has to be nerfed aswell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLink64 921 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 Gogg thinks the world exist around him and probably will troll and rages about what i'm saying Some things you say and want to people believe you, isn't true. As i've always said before, Mech is a class that need to be compared with Knights. Why? They main 1v1 attack have the same dmg boost. 79x80%. The same HP/MP formula. I've aways said that Maximize with 200% IS very powerfull. Gogg _ALWAYS_ complain about God Bless 100-100, but, Maximize with 200%, using a clean perf 120 Hammer, you should get 200% of its Max Attack, increasing 256 of ATK Pow on its Max Attack. Well, Min attack still exist, so, we need to cut it in half to get a stable boost. Then, maximize increase Mech atk pow 128-128 +-. CLEAN 120 hammer. Don't know how it will peform with aged/mixed hammer. Well, common sense wins this match, its WAY too much power added, much more than your whinning about God Bless But i _CAN'T_ stand you talking about mech doesn't tank. Sure. Compulsion adds 42% of Absorption. Godly Shield of Knights adds 20%. So, explain, why in hell you think they don't tank? "blah blah blah youre a bpt player and don't know how the things goes here on rpt blah blah blah, numbers don't say nothing" It's all facts. And, mech defense/abs bugs it's another thing, but, we need to consider his skills working at it's current numbers. Complaing, like me, to bugs, not to your Mech is always crap Maximize with 160%, with clean perf 120 hammer, gives 204 of Max Power, 102 of min-max. Now it's coupled (outdamage, cos no one use clean weps) with God Bless and compulsion adds 22% more ABS than Knights. So, start to complain again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JotaPe 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 In my opinion, Wartale should to ballance/desbug the Defense skills of mech, not atk , i think atk was good how in 3198. About the defense's skills of mech, we need to wait the new shield of tier5.. is what i think. Now Mech is very Brutal, and i think with Maximize 150% , will continue to be Brutal. Why dont test with 120%?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babyarcher 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 In my opinion, Wartale should to ballance/desbug the Defense skills of mech, not atk , i think atk was good how in 3198. About the defense's skills of mech, we need to wait the new shield of tier5.. is what i think. Now Mech is very Brutal, and i think with Maximize 150% , will continue to be Brutal. Why dont test with 120%?? Because there isn't just oen way to play mechs. There are automechs (automation), power mechs (maximize) and tank mechs (PA/MA). I.E., all 3 options should be equally viablle. If you noticed, MA and maximize don't stack, meaning you have to choose one. If maximize were nerfed to stupid numbers suggested in this topic, then no one is gonna play a power mech, and all you'll see are bugged tanks mechs in BC which are nothing but free BP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JotaPe 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 In my opinion, Wartale should to ballance/desbug the Defense skills of mech, not atk , i think atk was good how in 3198. About the defense's skills of mech, we need to wait the new shield of tier5.. is what i think. Now Mech is very Brutal, and i think with Maximize 150% , will continue to be Brutal. Why dont test with 120%?? Because there isn't just oen way to play mechs. There are automechs (automation), power mechs (maximize) and tank mechs (PA/MA). I.E., all 3 options should be equally viablle. If you noticed, MA and maximize don't stack, meaning you have to choose one. If maximize were nerfed to stupid numbers suggested in this topic, then no one is gonna play a power mech, and all you'll see are bugged tanks mechs in BC which are nothing but free BP. 1th, read again. 2th, u forgot the Hybrid mech! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLink64 921 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 I agree with BabyArcher, 120% is too low. As i've stated before, 160-150 is the Right choice. But what mech needs isn't buffin/nerfing, what they really need is DEBUGGING Mech with its current numbers, even with Maximize, to kill and tank really good. The problem is: Before making something, mech needs to be debugged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JotaPe 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 Ok OK, we can wait the new patch.. then we can test the 150% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaklaw 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 Because there isn't just oen way to play mechs. There are automechs (automation), power mechs (maximize) and tank mechs (PA/MA). I.E., all 3 options should be equally viablle. If you noticed, MA and maximize don't stack, meaning you have to choose one. If maximize were nerfed to stupid numbers suggested in this topic, then no one is gonna play a power mech, and all you'll see are bugged tanks mechs in BC which are nothing but free BP. +1 , cant agree more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babyarcher 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 In my opinion, Wartale should to ballance/desbug the Defense skills of mech, not atk , i think atk was good how in 3198. About the defense's skills of mech, we need to wait the new shield of tier5.. is what i think. Now Mech is very Brutal, and i think with Maximize 150% , will continue to be Brutal. Why dont test with 120%?? Because there isn't just oen way to play mechs. There are automechs (automation), power mechs (maximize) and tank mechs (PA/MA). I.E., all 3 options should be equally viablle. If you noticed, MA and maximize don't stack, meaning you have to choose one. If maximize were nerfed to stupid numbers suggested in this topic, then no one is gonna play a power mech, and all you'll see are bugged tanks mechs in BC which are nothing but free BP. 1th, read again. 2th, u forgot the Hybrid mech! Nothing wrong with my comprehension abilities. I understand what you're saying. Which is why I said mechs don't need to be fixed JUST for their defense, because there are many ways to build a mech Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QMan 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 i dont like AutoMech but tier5 will go on it i think best formula for mech is STR not AGI and with STR build PowerMech can use only Maximize and GrandSmash... PowerMech go to tank? Nooooo for me maybe STR build mech need skill 7 hit same KS and else class and forgotten Maximize & GrandSmash... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babyarcher 0 Report post Posted May 26, 2011 i dont like AutoMech but tier5 will go on it i think best formula for mech is STR not AGI and with STR build PowerMech can use only Maximize and GrandSmash... PowerMech go to tank? Nooooo for me maybe STR build mech need skill 7 hit same KS and else class and forgotten Maximize & GrandSmash... With the bugged (since forever) abs in BC, you'll be dead before the animation is over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TripleR 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 What is this topic about, again? Because I see lots of posts that have nothing to do with the topic's subject. As far as I know, this topic used to be about the nerf on Maximize to 160% and why did it happen so fast. (And I explained that already.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
babyarcher 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 What is this topic about, again? Because I see lots of posts that have nothing to do with the topic's subject. As far as I know, this topic used to be about the nerf on Maximize to 160% and why did it happen so fast. (And I explained that already.) People came in with suggestions to nerf Maximize to 100% or 120% and then tables were flipped Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gogg 3 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 This topic is about the lack of attention mech class got Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharman 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 gogogogo gogg u are right ^^! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaynEeE 0 Report post Posted May 27, 2011 Take a mech and go play, asshole Did you try that? So shut the fruit up I have both, you know. I sure don't know how someone can make a agressive, troller guy who don't know to discuss with arguments and starts to offend, to be a moderator Complain about his bugs, not about this Attack / Tanking issues, coz it doesn't exist Don't be a child, you need to respect other people opinions, you don't live alone in the world. Your behavior is a lame, offending anyone who doesn't agree with you. Go get a life. I didn't offend you. No need to this. i really don´t know what world u live, but it´s not realmpt i test my own mech lvl 119 with nice gears and tested a lvl 131 mech with all best equips u can have, and mech NO TANK! the only problem now, is that attack is too much strong, but continue existing some bug that defense of mech doesn´t worth on PVP to UP mech is best tanker, to PVP mech CAN´T TANK if u think different, or u blind or u´re too much dumb.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites