could nerfar the ms auto.

[Peace.Freedom 29]

this guy is so funny, maybe he cant find slot SS so wanna nerf MS ????

[minhtoan92 1]

Yes please, urgently quicly nerf auto MS as soon as possible!!! Too many now. Thanks.

[Carrera 177]

You players deserve the nerf you get! Every single time there is someone crying! Result - GM get's richer with class change. Players gets to waste more coins with class change whenever there is a nerf. Grow up and just get over with it. There is always someone that is not satisfied with another class, just go and change class.

[Merenda 767]

  On 3/23/2020 at 11:06 AM, Carrera said:

You players deserve the nerf you get! Every single time there is someone crying! Result - GM get's richer with class change. Players gets to waste more coins with class change whenever there is a nerf. Grow up and just get over with it. There is always someone that is not satisfied with another class, just go and change class.

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Maybe they want to kill and tank everybody in PvP with KS; Go to SS, UP just 4 hours and get amounts of exp, no investing KC in a tanker.

 

MS = UP class, every single class have an focus.

Edited March 23, 2020 by Merenda

[Hurricane 68]

I remember when SS was released, GM talked something like "We don't want to make a server full of mechs". Now look what we've got ?

 

The problem is not really the potencial of MS, but it's difference comparing to all other chars. Like wtf ms 144 can kill faster than any melee or even ranged 15x? Makes no sense to me.

 

Indeed, maybe the solution is not to nerf MS, but buff other chars. I dont' know, but something has to be done.

[ik3r 948]

all class - ms is like a chiken pio pio

 

[M4 82]

-1 

[marce2125 107]

  On 3/23/2020 at 11:35 AM, Merenda said:

MS = UP class, every single class have an focus.

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Wrong!!!, MS is a tank class not killer.

[-Vodka- 686]

+1 nerf MS !

[ik3r 948]

  On 3/23/2020 at 7:06 PM, -Vodka- said:

+1 nerf MS !

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SS chiken pio pio

 

[-HONOME- 14]

dont is better to increase a little bit of the damage from other classes? but only against mob, I think this is better than nerf automs

[CLA250 147]

Should focus on buffing other classes to make them enjoyable like the Auto Mech

 

Its true Auto Mech is completely broken but should try to balance others to make it equally as strong before nerfing any other classes.

[Merenda 767]

  On 3/23/2020 at 5:45 PM, marce2125 said:

Wrong!!!, MS is a tank class not killer.

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Mech can choose a focused build

Killer Up

Tanker

Killer PvP (Hybrid)

 

Try to read MS skills x.x'

[vihh 62]

-1

[marce2125 107]

  On 3/24/2020 at 12:33 AM, Merenda said:

Mech can choose a focused build

Killer Up

Tanker

Killer PvP (Hybrid)

 

Try to read MS skills x.x'

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In the official server, ms always was tank, here is different, so why other chars can get a boost??

Mech is OP, all people know that. The best killer 1 vs 1 must be ata or as not ms!

Ms is the only char that can do everything (when they released Last T5 mech get aoe too!)

 

Btw, i'm not agree with nerf i believe the others class need a boost, but ms is OP!

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[Smilo 109]

  On 3/24/2020 at 12:11 PM, marce2125 said:

In the official server, ms always was tank, here is different, so why other chars can get a boost??

Mech is OP, all people know that. The best killer 1 vs 1 must be ata or as not ms!

Ms is the only char that can do everything (when they released Last T5 mech get aoe too!)

 

Btw, i'm not agree with nerf i believe the others class need a boost, but ms is OP!

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Nerf MS or buff other classes thats it. But the game shouldnt be too easy.

1. its much more work to buff all other classes instead just nerfing one class

2. the damage other classes make in SS is ok only the mech is much op.... 

  On 3/24/2020 at 12:11 PM, marce2125 said:

In the official server, ms always was tank, here is different, so why other chars can get a boost??

Mech is OP, all people know that. The best killer 1 vs 1 must be ata or as not ms!

Ms is the only char that can do everything (when they released Last T5 mech get aoe too!)

 

Btw, i'm not agree with nerf i believe the others class need a boost, but ms is OP!

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Agree with you. highest damage can be done by any chars with the right equip and skills but as ranged ata and as should have a higher dmg than a mech does.

[Merenda 767]

  On 3/24/2020 at 12:11 PM, marce2125 said:

In the official server, ms always was tank, here is different, so why other chars can get a boost??

Mech is OP, all people know that. The best killer 1 vs 1 must be ata or as not ms!

Ms is the only char that can do everything (when they released Last T5 mech get aoe too!)

 

Btw, i'm not agree with nerf i believe the others class need a boost, but ms is OP!

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It's really hard to argu that, since Wartale is better than "Official" Server in every single aspect.

 

Mech always had Automation skill, that provides a Bow use. Tankers don't use Bows. Always had Weapon Master and Maximize, tankers didn't need damage skills...

 

So, Mech was a Hybrid character since release, you can mold as you want. 

 

Archer needs a buff, bc its really sad a character dealing a melee damage, but depending on a tanker to exp.

 

Ata, if well played, can exp as same as Mech. But need too much more attention and game knowledge.

 

I think we already have a good EXP / PVP distribution, except in Archer case.

 

UP 1v1: Mech, Ata

 

PVP: KS, PS, FS, SS, ASS

 

UP/FARM AOE: MG, PRS

 

 

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[Smilo 109]

  On 3/24/2020 at 1:25 PM, Merenda said:

It's really hard to argu that, since Wartale is better than "Official" Server in every single aspect.

 

Mech always had Automation skill, that provides a Bow use. Tankers don't use Bows. Always had Weapon Master and Maximize, tankers didn't need damage skills...

 

So, Mech was a Hybrid character since release, you can mold as you want. 

 

Archer needs a buff, bc its really sad a character dealing a melee damage, but depending on a tanker to exp.

 

Ata, if well played, can exp as same as Mech. But need too much more attention and game knowledge.

 

I think we already have a good EXP / PVP distribution, except in Archer case.

 

UP 1v1: Mech, Ata

 

PVP: KS, PS, FS, SS, ASS

 

UP/FARM AOE: MG, PRS

 

 

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but if u skill an archer or ata using almost no shield highest agility to deal the most damage as possible it shouldnt be dmg under mech. Archers and Atas are the real ranged chars. they should deal more dmg for sure. 

[Merenda 767]

  On 3/24/2020 at 2:33 PM, Smilo said:

but if u skill an archer or ata using almost no shield highest agility to deal the most damage as possible it shouldnt be dmg under mech. Archers and Atas are the real ranged chars. they should deal more dmg for sure. 

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In Auto builds, MS lows all stats. Low spirit rings and set. Ata needs throne kit bc her mana hungry.

 

So, MS can use more points in Agility. It's a viable build.

 

You have to consider bonus effect damage skills, % damage of each Ata skills too. An Ata well played can exp as a MS, but this requires more combos.

 

Archer is unquestionable, need some buffs in UP.

[-Enigma- 190]

it is incredible the arguments for the "auto mech" to kill more than Archer/Ata who are classes of rangers origin.

 

With 2 skills and a default attack, the auto mech kills more than the class that uses bow as its main weapon (and using skills, not a default attack.), and also kills more than atalanta. not to mention that it uses less potion of MP/Stm. Even with the same items, lvl, with tanker, there is no way for an archer or atalanta to kill like an auto mech.

 

regardless of the crying on side A or side B, it seems that you don't know S4ndurr. He will expect to have a lot of mech on the server and will nerf the class to make money with change class (as has always been done for the past 10 years), and on his side, it is not wrong, because the server needs $ to survive.

 

the auto mech nerf is inevitable, the question is when. 

it is much easier to change only one class (in fact, only 1 skill, Automation or Precision) than to change 9 classes.

 

[netto94 45]

  On 3/22/2020 at 3:36 AM, wolf0119 said:

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AutoMS need NERF asap.

 

Or buff all others classes in PvE to be enjoyable to play too.

 

[disable1000 511]

  On 3/24/2020 at 5:35 PM, -Enigma- said:

it is incredible the arguments for the "auto mech" to kill more than Archer/Ata who are classes of rangers origin.

 

With 2 skills and a default attack, the auto mech kills more than the class that uses bow as its main weapon (and using skills, not a default attack.), and also kills more than atalanta. not to mention that it uses less potion of MP/Stm. Even with the same items, lvl, with tanker, there is no way for an archer or atalanta to kill like an auto mech.

 

regardless of the crying on side A or side B, it seems that you don't know S4ndurr. He will expect to have a lot of mech on the server and will nerf the class to make money with change class (as has always been done for the past 10 years), and on his side, it is not wrong, because the server needs $ to survive.

 

the auto mech nerf is inevitable, the question is when. 

it is much easier to change only one class (in fact, only 1 skill, Automation or Precision) than to change 9 classes.

 

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true.

[Merenda 767]

  On 3/24/2020 at 5:35 PM, -Enigma- said:

it is incredible the arguments for the "auto mech" to kill more than Archer/Ata who are classes of rangers origin.

 

With 2 skills and a default attack, the auto mech kills more than the class that uses bow as its main weapon (and using skills, not a default attack.), and also kills more than atalanta. not to mention that it uses less potion of MP/Stm. Even with the same items, lvl, with tanker, there is no way for an archer or atalanta to kill like an auto mech.

 

regardless of the crying on side A or side B, it seems that you don't know S4ndurr. He will expect to have a lot of mech on the server and will nerf the class to make money with change class (as has always been done for the past 10 years), and on his side, it is not wrong, because the server needs $ to survive.

 

the auto mech nerf is inevitable, the question is when. 

it is much easier to change only one class (in fact, only 1 skill, Automation or Precision) than to change 9 classes.

 

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Have you ever UP with Ata? Or MS?

Have eu ever UP?

 

Math explains MS damage. Build explains MS numbers. It's so sad how people blame about UP even they never played with the class they're talking about.

 

Ata can exp as same as MS if you play correctly, Archer is in a terrible spot, okay.

But it's just about an Archer buff, to equal as MS and Ata lol.

[-Enigma- 190]

  On 3/24/2020 at 6:24 PM, Merenda said:

Have you ever UP with Ata? Or MS?

Have eu ever UP?

 

Math explains MS damage. Build explains MS numbers. It's so sad how people blame about UP even they never played with the class they're talking about.

 

Ata can exp as same as MS if you play correctly, Archer is in a terrible spot, okay.

But it's just about an Archer buff, to equal as MS and Ata lol.

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Ata 156, ata 159, as159, as 160, ms 148, ms 159, ms 154, etc..

 

I already had and already up all classes. I have tanker, I have low lvl bsol rings, low lvl bsol set (brac/gaunt/boots), etc...

 

Atalanta is the second best char up today, behind auto mech.

but as i said above, auto mech kills more and uses less stm / mana.

 

 

it's amazing how fanaticism makes people blind.

 

answer me one thing: do you think it is normal,  auto mech, to kill more than an archer who uses bow as his main weapon?

 

answer me something else: All classes pure, with tanker. auto mech kill 2x, 3x faster than the other classes (depending on the class), is that balanced? is it normal for you?

 

 

 

 

[you2kyo 171]

Hmmm... so let me get this straight. If I want to play the class i really enjoy and  also be competitive, I can't? Because if I decide to play anything that is not a MS I'm gonna have a hard time leveling up. That sucks.

 

Also, of course the admin is going to make a class super op just to nerf it later on. That's how they make the most money. Plus, all this money spent on class changes doesn't affect low level players, as they don't need to use this service. Only the top players who hold the greatest deal of wealth in the server. So, they should be forced to do this every now and then. It works like a gold sink. (People love to tierwhore ? )

 

Reagarding skills, I believe every class that has useless skills should get a revamp on those skills to make them useful. Leveling shouldn't be about comfort. (left click + one char standing still doing nothing) You should work at least a little bit to get your levels. (Seriously people, it's just sad and boring doing that)