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[Hawaii2 616]

Just wondering why is this kind of post repeating and repeating again?

Every class got its own unique way / style of playing.

We always have an option to choose.

Whats the point of having 8 classes if everything is the same?

 

[Lyseria 1,822]

Interesting how ppl thinks about it in a wrong way.

 

There are two things that leads the discussion to the limbo.

• It's not about players x staff.
• AutoMS is not a class, but a simple build.

Balancing AutoMS build doesn't mean it will kill Mech. Players are following the current meta blindly like a rule that can't be changed.

Edited May 10, 2020 by Lyseria

[Mjizzy_7 1,904]

1 minute ago, Lyseria said:

Interesting how ppl thinks about it in a wrong way.

 

There are two things that leads the discussion to the limbo.

• It's not about players x staff.
• AutoMS is not a class, but a simple build.

Balancing AutoMS build doesn't mean it will kill Mech. Players are following the current meta blindness like a rule that can't be changed.

Thats the Point +1

[-Enigma- 190]

11 minutes ago, Lyseria said:

Interesting how ppl thinks about it in a wrong way.

 

There are two things that leads the discussion to the limbo.

• It's not about players x staff.
• AutoMS is not a class, but a simple build.

Balancing AutoMS build doesn't mean it will kill Mech. Players are following the current meta blindness like a rule that can't be changed.

 

exactly ... People think Auto Mech is a class and not a build...and they want to compare a build of a class with other classes ...

 

For those who don't know, there are other builds for Mech, ok? Power Mech for PvP/SW, Spark mech for low maps in events, Tanker mech for tank in CT3/DIQ, etc...

[EternalLighting 26]

Okay, AutoMS is just a build (I get that), but have you guys tried the PowerMS build (or other builds) on SS map ? Are they good in there ?

 

The balance is not just between characters but also with the character itself, if the build AutoMS gets nerf (and will be, I believe so), that will make the people who plays with AutoMS not only having their characters dying easily but also weak on the attack. Tell me how that won't become useless ? (That's not balance, at least not in my opinion)

 

It's okay to having a character's attack nerfed, but has to exist a balance in the defense also. What's the point of not killing and dying easily ? (This is what I don't get it)

 

Each class has its unique talents, doesn't make any sense to make every class good at everything, you have to party with other players (class) to have the balance between characters.

 

 

And before anyone starts saying crap, I play with all characters (I have all 10 classes), I don't pick favorites (although PRS is my main and I like her very much), it depends on the time and which character I'd like to play at that moment.

[suesue 234]

15 hours ago, -Enigma- said:

Auto Ms using bow and default attack kill more than Archer who uses bow as his main weapon and using skill ... is it normal for you?

 

yes. I asked before. Why real pure damage ranger deal lesser than hybird class.
I wanna buff rangers . not nerf :v

Edited May 11, 2020 by suesue

[Lyseria 1,822]

1 hour ago, EternalLighting said:

Are they good in there ?

Yes

 

1 hour ago, EternalLighting said:

Tell me how that won't become useless ?

You don't need to reduce his dmg to the ground, but something lower than archer/ata and higher than melees, his current dmg is beyond reality, and as said before, mech is good on close combat, specially against mechanic monsters.

 

You can compare his attack skills, passives and buffs with others melees, what is missing for mechs is a nuke skill, that will be released with T5 in an endless future.

 

1 hour ago, EternalLighting said:

Each class has its unique talents, doesn't make any sense to make every class good at everything, you have to party with other players (class) to have the balance between characters.

Exactly.

Edited May 11, 2020 by Lyseria

[Merenda 694]

3 hours ago, Lyseria said:

Yes

 

You don't need to reduce his dmg to the ground, but something lower than archer/ata and higher than melees, his current dmg is beyond reality, and as said before, mech is good on close combat, specially against mechanic monsters.

 

You can compare his attack skills, passives and buffs with others melees, what is missing for mechs is a nuke skill, that will be released with T5 in an endless future.

 

Exactly.

So, if Power Mech is a good option in SS... All other classes are too?

[Lyseria 1,822]

4 hours ago, Merenda said:

So, if Power Mech is a good option in SS... All other classes are too?

I think I don't understand your question, but I didn't tested every class in SS because I don't have all classes 144+, so any feedback I give to you will be based on thoughts and gameplay of others. To give you a solid feedback I must know very well all skills and builds.

 

Actually I can tell you about my 144+ chars, Prs, Archer and Mech, if you wanna know.

[fernando 103]

On 5/10/2020 at 12:41 PM, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said:

in my opinion If it's about Solo game play, mage is good on hunt too - his AoE damage is better than FS 1x1 damage

-Priest is Good on PvP -  the only reason she is overshadowed it's because everybody has a mule priest for VL and DF

-Priest AoE is just normal - a priest 15x needs 1 mim 20 sec to kill a xetan with AoE, meanwhile a mage 13x or a shaman same level need only 40~45 sec

-Shaman is Normal on hunt - Shaman damage 1x1 damage is not low, far from that, and he has a pet to tank, defense and press deity.-

-Fighter is Normal/good on AoE - Cyclone strike has crit chance and it's faster than other AoE skills.

-Assassin is normal on PvP -  she can easily hit kill, but she can't tank much [ honestly , I've never seen an Ass actually playing , just hit&running with pure builds, so i can't tell much about her]

-Ms is normal on UP- just because every single mech uses pure auto build to go up it doesn't means he is bad, he can go as Power Mech or auto mech with jav + armor.

-everything else i agree.

 

But honestly, everybody has at least one secondary char atm, so i dunno if balance should be based on that, cuz, indeed, ms is not that OP without a priest and a mage for support, so right now, we just have to wait the Staff project to be announced.

 

 

 

Thanks for ur reply!

 

-> Yeah, but can you see that flame wave is so op as precision is? mage is basically using only 1 skill to do almost everything in game

-> As I said, I'm not that sure about what I pointed in PVP, my bad.

-> Prs aoe: maybe with new t5 this may change, let's see. But prs was supposed to be a supporter char after all, right?

-> Agree with Shaman as normal in hunt, but when we talk about kill valento, kelvezu, he's not that good

-> I dont think it's a good aoe, but I respect your opinion

-> As far as I heard from players, ASS just sucks at PVP, or she hit kill or nothing

-> well, didnt see a power mech or auto mech with javalin and armor to see how fast it kills, my bad here.

On 5/10/2020 at 1:07 PM, HoOoOoDLUM said:

dear . if u want to make a an example by ur table , well make it a realistic one , when u say MS is bad in SS without a tank , well thats not the issue everyone is discussing , the issue is that almost all MS come with tank and do double or 3 times the exp of other classes , so its not a bad idea to make such a table to present things , but better be a realistic one please.

 

but not every auto ms has money/coins to buy a supporter, if those who have auto ms cant buy a supporter, what do you tell them to do? because cast golem is a disaster, u'll spend more rebirths than gain xp and will get ur ass kicked from parties

[Palhacitos 480]

I believe that the Gms and Adm have already read everything the community has to say, many agree, others do not.

 

Now we can only wait to see what will happen.