150 MS Auto VS FS 150 in SS - Efficient Investment - Char Balance solution.

[ChainLancer 101]

Dear community,

 

Hello, because many arguments about Auto MS (or Rangers char in general) about the Balance. I want to make it clear in aspect of Investment.

 

I just write something about the Investment of 150 Auto MS and 150 FS to play in top MAP to let you know:

 

1. The difference of Investment.
2. Current issue.
3. Solution.

 

I choose FS because for me, FS is the lead char of Melee, can represent of all melee char in most server.

 

Items chosen is for playing well in SS.

 

 

Let's begin:

 

1. The difference of Investment.

 

Unit: 1000 coins/KC

 

Fs 150	15.0
Armor 140 + 24 Dnt	8.0
Shield 140  + 24 Dnt	8.0
Axe 138 + 24 Dnt	8.0
Axe 142 + 24	15.0
Brac 140 Bsolm Dnt	3.0
Gaun 140 Bsolm Dnt	3.0
Draxos Bsolm	15.0
Set boss 3 Dnt	6.0
Total	81.0

 

150 FS Full + 24 = 81kc. 142+24 i choose because most FS kill rock and barkan = 1 hand to easy to survive.

 

MS 150	15.0
Bow 138 + 24  Dnt	8.0
Hell Set 134 Bsolm	1.5
Set ring 132 BSM	0.5
Hopy Bsolm	1.0
Total	26.0

 

 

PRS 150	15.0
Rob 136 + 24 dnt	4.0
Orb 136 + 24 dnt	4.0
Set 136 Dnt Bsolm	2.0
Set boss 3 Dnt	6.0
Total	31.0

 

Grand total 150 Auto MS + 150 Prs full =  57 KC

 

We can see the difference of Investment here is: 81kc vs 57kc. (1)

 

      2.Current issue.

 

150 FS full item's damage: max ~ 2000.

150 Auto MS: max ~ 4000.

=> Double damage . (2)

I still not mention about speed, atk rating, crit but Ms is better than.

 

(1) and (2) => MS is "OP" and not fair.

 

As player spend almost time  to Exp and Hunt. So, can not say that u can use char for other purpose.

 

   3. Solution: (i will back soon)

 

 

Edited May 11, 2020 by ChainLancer

[Palhacitos 481]

MS 150 = 15kc

Bow 138+24  drop = 6kc

No need Brac 

No need Gaun 

No need Boots

No need Rings

No need Amulets

No need Shelton 

No need Armor 

No need shield

 

You can place the items but in the end he only really needs the bow. ?

 

I've used MS with set 132. Do you know how much is a 132 MS items? 20kk?

Edited May 11, 2020 by Palhacitos

[Unlimit 5]

30 minutes ago, ChainLancer said:

Dear community,

 

Hello, because many arguments about Auto MS (or Rangers char in general) about the Balance. I want to make it clear in aspect of Investment.

 

I just write something about the Investment of 150 Auto MS and 150 FS to play in top MAP to let you know:

 

1. The difference of Investment.
2. Current issue.
3. Solution.

 

I choose FS because for me, FS is the lead char of Melee, can represent of all melee char in most server.

 

Items chosen is for playing well in SS.

 

 

Let's begin:

 

1. The difference of Investment.

 

Unit: 1000 coins/KC

 

Fs 150	15.0
Armor 140 + 24 Dnt	8.0
Shield 140  + 24 Dnt	8.0
Axe 138 + 24 Dnt	8.0
Axe 142 + 24	15.0
Brac 140 Bsolm Dnt	3.0
Gaun 140 Bsolm Dnt	3.0
Draxos Bsolm	15.0
Set boss 3 Dnt	6.0
Total	81.0

 

150 FS Full + 24 = 81kc. 142+24 i choose because most FS kill rock and barkan = 1 hand to easy to survive.

 

MS 150	15.0
Bow 138 + 24  Dnt	8.0
Hell Set 134 Bsolm	1.5
Set ring 132 BSM	0.5
Hopy Bsolm	1.0
Total	26.0

 

 

PRS 150	15.0
Rob 136 + 24 dnt	4.0
Orb 136 + 24 dnt	4.0
Set 136 Dnt Bsolm	2.0
Set boss 3 Dnt	6.0
Total	31.0

 

Grand total 150 Auto MS + 150 Prs full =  57 KC

 

We can see the difference of Investment here is: 81kc vs 57kc. (1)

 

      2.Current issue.

 

150 FS full item's damage: max ~ 2000.

150 Auto MS: max ~ 4000.

=> Double damage . (2)

I still not mention about speed, atk rating, crit but Ms is better than.

 

(1) and (2) => MS is "OP" and not fair.

 

As player spend almost time  to Exp and Hunt. So, can not say that u can use char for other purpose.

 

   3. Solution: (i will back soon)

 

 

 

 

About It

 

You need ADD

 

Armor 140 + 24 Dnt	8.0
Shield 140  + 24 Dnt	8.0
Hammer 138+ 24 Dnt	8.0
Claw 142 + 24	20.0
Brac 140 Bsolm Dnt	3.0
Gaun 140 Bsolm Dnt	3.0
Draxos Bsolm	15.0
Set boss 3 Dnt	6.0

 

Total = 71kc + 57kc = 128kc 

 

to fulfill all the functions of a FS.

 

PVP/SOD/Exping.

 

 

 

the game is not just about leveling up.

Edited May 11, 2020 by Unlimit

[nameless10 208]

+1 MS auto OP.. nerf damage

[Palhacitos 481]

3 minutes ago, Unlimit said:

 

 

About It

 

You need ADD

 

Armor 140 + 24 Dnt	8.0
Shield 140  + 24 Dnt	8.0
Hammer 138+ 24 Dnt	8.0
Claw 142 + 24	20.0
Brac 140 Bsolm Dnt	3.0
Gaun 140 Bsolm Dnt	3.0
Draxos Bsolm	15.0
Set boss 3 Dnt	6.0

 

to fulfill all the functions of a FS.

 

PVP/SOD/Exping.

 Prs? After all you bought a Prs to help MS.

See again. 

Edited May 11, 2020 by Palhacitos

[Unlimit 5]

2 minutes ago, Palhacitos said:

 Prs? After all you bought a Prs to help MS.

yes To Lvl Up Need PRS tanker.

 

ou you think Kill Mob with Grand smash ?

 

any one Test how DMG Have Ms with Full gear 140-142+24 with that skill? and tell me is op or not.

Edited May 11, 2020 by Unlimit

[Palhacitos 481]

 

That was my MS. Kills more than any FS even lvl and fully equipped

[Unlimit 5]

1 minute ago, Palhacitos said:

 

That was my MS. Kills more than any FS even lvl and fully equipped

Tell me is You Ms is OP to Pvp/Sod?

 

Same with Full Gear FS or another  140-142+24.

 

Just dont Cry More.

Edited May 11, 2020 by Unlimit

[Palhacitos 481]

Just now, Unlimit said:

Tell me is You Ms is OP to Pvp/Sod?

 

Same with Full Gear FS 140-142+24.

 

Just dont Cry More.

I used Prs in Sod. 

Prs helped me as a tanke, VL mule in BC and farm gold in Sod.

[Unlimit 5]

Just now, Palhacitos said:

I used Prs in Sod. 

Prs helped me as a tanke, VL mule in BC and farm gold in Sod.

This Post dont is about PRS. ^^

 

 

 

[Palhacitos 481]

3 minutes ago, Unlimit said:

This Post dont is about PRS. ^^

 

 

 

It's about the composition. 

See again. ?

Easier and cheaper to mount a Prs + MS than an FS. Better not to mention AS and ATA right?

 

After all, they kill less than MS and also need a tank.

Edited May 11, 2020 by Palhacitos

[Unlimit 5]

Just now, Palhacitos said:

It's about the composition. 

See again. ?

why You cry and cry more about auto MS?

 

All class have diferent funtions

 

[Palhacitos 481]

3 minutes ago, Unlimit said:

why You cry and cry more about auto MS?

 

All class have diferent funtions

 

Why do you cry to not nerf even knowing that he is OP?

All classes are different but none reaches at least 30% of the MS. This is a fact.

MS deals at least 30% to 40% more damage than any class in SS

Edited May 11, 2020 by Palhacitos

[Unlimit 5]

3 minutes ago, Palhacitos said:

Why do you cry to not nerf even knowing that he is OP?

All classes are different but none reaches at least 30% of the MS. This is a fact.

MS deals at least 30% to 40% more damage than any class in SS

MG PRS HAVE 30% 40% More aoe in SOD Pve.

[nameless10 208]

5 minutes ago, Palhacitos said:

Why do you cry to not nerf even knowing that he is OP?

All classes are different but none reaches at least 30% of the MS. This is a fact.

MS deals at least 30% to 40% more damage than any class in SS

+1

 

 

maybe this guy is doin service and he will consumed more hrs if automs will be nerfed ?

 

its obviously Op yet his eyes are close like the ingame 3rd eye ??

[-HONOME- 14]

28 minutes ago, Unlimit said:

 

 

About It

 

You need ADD

 

Armor 140 + 24 Dnt	8.0
Shield 140  + 24 Dnt	8.0
Hammer 138+ 24 Dnt	8.0
Claw 142 + 24	20.0
Brac 140 Bsolm Dnt	3.0
Gaun 140 Bsolm Dnt	3.0
Draxos Bsolm	15.0
Set boss 3 Dnt	6.0

 

Total = 71kc + 57kc = 128kc 

 

to fulfill all the functions of a FS.

 

PVP/SOD/Exping.

 

 

 

the game is not just about leveling up.

If you have 2 mechs, one tank (148), and the other one as your main char (automs), and you put your def itens there it would be cheaper than equip a mech and a prs

[Unlimit 5]

2 minutes ago, -HONOME- said:

If you have 2 mechs, one tank (148), and the other one as your main char (automs), and you put your def itens there it would be cheaper than equip a mech and a prs

about IT

 

2 MS 150 = 30.00

 

ITENS 

 

Armor 140 + 24 Dnt	8.0
Shield 140  + 24 Dnt	8.0
Hammer 138+ 24 Dnt	8.0
Claw 142 + 24	20.0
Brac 140 Bsolm Dnt	3.0
Gaun 140 Bsolm Dnt	3.0
Draxos Bsolm	15.0
Set boss 3 Dnt	6.0

 

 

Bow 138 + 24  Dnt 8.0

Hell Set 134 Bsolm 1.5

Set ring 132 BSM 0.5

Hopy Bsolm 1.0

 

= 82kc

 

 

[Palhacitos 481]

6 minutes ago, Unlimit said:

MG PRS HAVE 30% 40% More aoe in SOD Pve.

No, ?

Shaman solo

As using MS for tank

Ata using MS for ta k

PS solo

FS solo

Etc. 

 

None loses to MG with a 30 to 40% difference.

[suesue 235]

14 minutes ago, Palhacitos said:

Why do you cry to not nerf even knowing that he is OP?

All classes are different but none reaches at least 30% of the MS. This is a fact.

MS deals at least 30% to 40% more damage than any class in SS

you dont need to argue with him. People hear what they want to hear. Let's see Gm does next with auto ms

[Palhacitos 481]

3 minutes ago, Unlimit said:

about IT

 

2 MS 150 = 30.00

 

ITENS 

 

Armor 140 + 24 Dnt	8.0
Shield 140  + 24 Dnt	8.0
Hammer 138+ 24 Dnt	8.0
Claw 142 + 24	20.0
Brac 140 Bsolm Dnt	3.0
Gaun 140 Bsolm Dnt	3.0
Draxos Bsolm	15.0
Set boss 3 Dnt	6.0

 

 

Bow 138 + 24  Dnt 8.0

Hell Set 134 Bsolm 1.5

Set ring 132 BSM 0.5

Hopy Bsolm 1.0

 

= 82kc

 

 

Nobody uses another tank MS on SS. They use Prs. Go to the map and look. Remembering that she only needs 128 + 22

[nameless10 208]

32 minutes ago, Palhacitos said:

Nobody uses another tank MS on SS. They use Prs. Go to the map and look. Remembering that she only needs 128 + 22

i saw danny19 bro using ms tank ?

[ChainLancer 101]

I want to make something more clear:

 

This topic to compare Investment to play in TOP map - SS. 

 

Because currently, if you are already 15x, you have to go SS for exp and hunt.

 

(But actually, when you have a prs full items, you can go SOD, Moon hunter, other events...)

 

In the past, maybe DIQ or IC you can replace SL.

 

But now, Top player will not go there. (Now you see 15x, 16x are many).

 

And this topic is not about Nerf MS to the same damage with Melees..

 

Just a comparison about current char Balance to see the Difference and Hope to have some Solutions.

[- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,764]

58 minutes ago, Palhacitos said:

Nobody uses another tank MS on SS. They use Prs. Go to the map and look. Remembering that she only needs 128 + 22

I dunno why, but i just got the feeling priest hp formula will be the next ppl will ask to nerf...

[YourAngel 14]

1 hour ago, Palhacitos said:

Nobody uses another tank MS on SS. They use Prs. Go to the map and look. Remembering that she only needs 128 + 22

I use MS TANK 2 mobs and 1 PRS for regen :D.

[Palhacitos 481]

2 hours ago, nameless10 said:

i saw danny19 bro using ms tank ?

Kkkk

One in a thousand ?

1 hour ago, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said:

I dunno why, but i just got the feeling priest hp formula will be the next ppl will ask to nerf...

To ask for nerf in the prs, really have no knowledge about the game.