Just an answer (MS)

[nameless10 208]

Just now, diemurd said:

Since when does GM makes small corrections in their updates?

 

Looks like you dont even play this game, u guys cried for stupid reasons, now class will be dead.

im not crying dude. im just helping you understand things you refuse to accept and understand hahaha 

[fernando 103]

Let's nerf the followin skills/stats also:

 

-> Auto MS;

-> Ata Poison Str (234% too high, make it 100%)

-> Mage's Flame Wave (wtf, mage with high aoe dmg? no no no, let's make it as fighter's cyclone)

-> Mage Energy Shield (too tank at lvl 10, can tank even draxos lol)

-> Nerf VL, cause, at the end, this skills was only supposed to give u LIFE points right? not ABS points also

-> Nerf players from logging multiple accounts, bc, up, sod, hunt, whatever it is

-> Nerf buffs that chars can obtain from outside players, you now only receive buff from players that are on your party

-> Nerf pikeman's critical, wtf, how can a char have that much critical? its insane lol 134 player killing 15x player, too OP

-> Lets nerf archer speed/evade, did you guys see how much it is? crazy

-> Lets nerf mech defense and abs to make it equal to others, since we all want all characters "balanced" ?

-> Nerf Knight's defense/block, lol, 1 char tank 4 5 at BC? 

 

I really dont care if they nerf auto ms, as long as they nerf these things also, because everything that I mentioned is OP also

Edited May 12, 2020 by fernando

[nameless10 208]

11 minutes ago, diemurd said:

Since when does GM makes small corrections in their updates?

 

Looks like you dont even play this game, u guys cried for stupid reasons, now class will be dead.

another thing . dont point out me that i look like i dont play this game dude. in the 2 of us maybe ur the one. 

 

how can u say MS is the worst class in SOD. haha 

 

with that statement im just thinking your just joking around here ?

[fernando 103]

4 minutes ago, nameless10 said:

another thing . dont point out me that i look like i dont play this game dude. in the 2 of us maybe ur the one. 

 

how can u say MS is the worst class in SOD. haha 

 

with that statement im just thinking your just joking around here ?

Not defending him, but mech is with fighter and archer as one of the worst chars to play at SOD (based on top ranking class sod and if you think about soloing vs other classes)

[Palhacitos 480]

53 minutes ago, fernando said:

Let's nerf the followin skills/stats also:

 

-> Auto MS;

-> Ata Poison Str (234% too high, make it 100%)

-> Mage's Flame Wave (wtf, mage with high aoe dmg? no no no, let's make it as fighter's cyclone)

-> Mage Energy Shield (too tank at lvl 10, can tank even draxos lol)

-> Nerf VL, cause, at the end, this skills was only supposed to give u LIFE points right? not ABS points also

-> Nerf players from logging multiple accounts, bc, up, sod, hunt, whatever it is

-> Nerf buffs that chars can obtain from outside players, you now only receive buff from players that are on your party

-> Nerf pikeman's critical, wtf, how can a char have that much critical? its insane lol 134 player killing 15x player, too OP

-> Lets nerf archer speed/evade, did you guys see how much it is? crazy

-> Lets nerf mech defense and abs to make it equal to others, since we all want all characters "balanced" ?

-> Nerf Knight's defense/block, lol, 1 char tank 4 5 at BC? 

 

I really dont care if they nerf auto ms, as long as they nerf these things also, because everything that I mentioned is OP also

I believe that Adm, Gms and the community have already seen that some support and others do not.

 

You don't have to shoot all over the place. 

And stop saying that you don't care about the nerf. 

We know you care.

Edited May 12, 2020 by Palhacitos

[Jody222 173]

47 minutes ago, fernando said:

Let's nerf the followin skills/stats also:

 

-> Auto MS;

-> Ata Poison Str (234% too high, make it 100%)

-> Mage's Flame Wave (wtf, mage with high aoe dmg? no no no, let's make it as fighter's cyclone)

-> Mage Energy Shield (too tank at lvl 10, can tank even draxos lol)

-> Nerf VL, cause, at the end, this skills was only supposed to give u LIFE points right? not ABS points also

-> Nerf players from logging multiple accounts, bc, up, sod, hunt, whatever it is

-> Nerf buffs that chars can obtain from outside players, you now only receive buff from players that are on your party

-> Nerf pikeman's critical, wtf, how can a char have that much critical? its insane lol 134 player killing 15x player, too OP

-> Lets nerf archer speed/evade, did you guys see how much it is? crazy

-> Lets nerf mech defense and abs to make it equal to others, since we all want all characters "balanced" ?

-> Nerf Knight's defense/block, lol, 1 char tank 4 5 at BC? 

 

I really dont care if they nerf auto ms, as long as they nerf these things also, because everything that I mentioned is OP also

What a list.... are you kidding me ?

[geohound 49]

 Automation

Automates projectile weapons to raise attack power and attack speed.
Cannot be used simultaneously with Physical Absorbtion, Metal Armor, or Maximize.

Require Level: 26

Require Item: Bow, Javelin

Type: Active

Duration: 5 minutes (300 seconds)

 

Funny how some people claimed that they know everything about MS and made a fixed statement that "Mech = melee class".

 

This skill above is from original game and it's enough to prove that MS can be a ranger class too beside tanker and melee class.

[Lyseria 1,823]

5 minutes ago, Jody222 said:

What a list.... are you kidding me ?

Just desperate mode on, talk a lot of garbage to change the main focus.

 

Although some points could be discussed xD

Edited May 12, 2020 by Lyseria

[Palhacitos 480]

10 minutes ago, geohound said:

 Automation

Automates projectile weapons to raise attack power and attack speed.
Cannot be used simultaneously with Physical Absorbtion, Metal Armor, or Maximize.

Require Level: 26

Require Item: Bow, Javelin

Type: Active

Duration: 5 minutes (300 seconds)

 

Funny how some people claimed that they know everything about MS and made a fixed statement that "Mech = melee class".

 

This skill above is from original game and it's enough to prove that MS can be a ranger class too beside tanker and melee class.

The problem is not that it is ranger.

But it be better than AS and ATA. Since they are exclusively rangers. The MS is a hybrid, Thus. It couldn't be better. 

If we're going to talk about skills. Go there in the skills of AS and Ata. Try to find one that is close to these statuses.

 

 

?

Edited May 12, 2020 by Palhacitos

[syndra1234 7]

I agree with you that MS is not OP. But why people always want to party MS auto insteat other rangers like ata or as. So weird :))

[nameless10 208]

1 hour ago, fernando said:

Not defending him, but mech is with fighter and archer as one of the worst chars to play at SOD (based on top ranking class sod and if you think about soloing vs other classes)

bro speaking of worst class in SOD.. it shud be ata.. even u bring a tanker in SOD, i dont think it can score passes 14kk score.. 

 

MS can score 15kk 

FS can score 15kk

As can score 15kk

ATA?? = 8kk 9kk ??

 

lol.. the bottomline ms is auto is OP.. ? thats the reality haha

[geohound 49]

58 minutes ago, Palhacitos said:

The MS is a hybrid

He isnt hybrid as you said. When he is a tanker then he can only do his job as a tanker, same apply for melee and ranger mode. If you tell me the way a MS somehow can do the job of both tanker and ranger at the same time then he is hybrid and "too OP" as you said and in fact he cant.

You only stare at auto-ms's damage and call him "OP" but ignore the fact that he's extremely fragile when he is on this mode  compare to others. This downside alone is punishment for having more attack power than others and it's enough to make him not OP. "You have to lose something to gain something", simple as that.

Just because he has many modes to play with doesnt mean he is OP.

 

Seem like in the end, most of people dont understand what is OP really mean. You want a clear example ??? Search 'OverLady' and believe me, i know exactly why GM made it.

 

 

Edited May 12, 2020 by geohound

[Smilo 109]

47 minutes ago, geohound said:

He isnt hybrid as you said. When he is a tanker then he can only do his job as a tanker, same apply for melee and ranger mode. If you tell me the way a MS somehow can do the job of both tanker and ranger at the same time then he is hybrid and "too OP" as you said and in fact he cant.

You only stare at auto-ms's damage and call him "OP" but ignore the fact that he's extremely fragile when he is on this mode  compare to others. This downside alone is punishment for having more attack power than others and it's enough to make him not OP. "You have to lose something to gain something", simple as that.

Just because he has many modes to play with doesnt mean he is OP.

 

Seem like in the end, most of people dont understand what is OP really mean. You want a clear example ??? Search 'OverLady' and believe me, i know exactly why GM made it.

 

 

Its not about those many modes..... If u equip an archer with same stuff. He dies 1hit too having a high damage. Archer is a ranged char with ranged skills and still got less damage than a Mech without those attack skills...

[Ak3rU_ 18]

7 hours ago, iokamazy said:

AutoMS sacrifice everything he can do on game to have a nice KILL on Hunt maps

Nothing else to add, you said it all ?

 

  

19 minutes ago, Smilo said:

Its not about those many modes..... If u equip an archer with same stuff. He dies 1hit too having a high damage. Archer is a ranged char with ranged skills and still got less damage than a Mech without those attack skills...

 

Archer can AoE, AutoMS can't.

Edited May 12, 2020 by Ak3rU_

[Smilo 109]

11 minutes ago, Ak3rU_ said:

Nothing else to add, you said it all ?

 

  

 

Archer can AoE, AutoMS can't.

yeah AOE helps much in SS where u can tank 2-3 mobs as archer or mech almost naked...

[cux 205]

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3 hours ago, fernando said:

Let's nerf the followin skills/stats also:

 

-> Auto MS;

-> Ata Poison Str (234% too high, make it 100%)

-> Mage's Flame Wave (wtf, mage with high aoe dmg? no no no, let's make it as fighter's cyclone)

-> Mage Energy Shield (too tank at lvl 10, can tank even draxos lol)

-> Nerf VL, cause, at the end, this skills was only supposed to give u LIFE points right? not ABS points also

-> Nerf players from logging multiple accounts, bc, up, sod, hunt, whatever it is

-> Nerf buffs that chars can obtain from outside players, you now only receive buff from players that are on your party

-> Nerf pikeman's critical, wtf, how can a char have that much critical? its insane lol 134 player killing 15x player, too OP

-> Lets nerf archer speed/evade, did you guys see how much it is? crazy

-> Lets nerf mech defense and abs to make it equal to others, since we all want all characters "balanced" ?

-> Nerf Knight's defense/block, lol, 1 char tank 4 5 at BC? 

 

I really dont care if they nerf auto ms, as long as they nerf these things also, because everything that I mentioned is OP also

You are shooting to every class in Wartale in order to defend the automech.

Good point.

[ * irony * ]

Edited May 12, 2020 by cux

[YourAngel 14]

32 minutes ago, Smilo said:

Its not about those many modes..... If u equip an archer with same stuff. He dies 1hit too having a high damage. Archer is a ranged char with ranged skills and still got less damage than a Mech without those attack skills...

Do you know BOM SHOT of ARCHER? It's really strong now.

14 minutes ago, Ak3rU_ said:

Nothing else to add, you said it all ?

 

  

 

Archer can AoE, AutoMS can't.

Nice. Fire effect of BOM SHOOT is more damage than main skill.

4 minutes ago, Smilo said:

yeah AOE helps much in SS where u can tank 2-3 mobs as archer or mech almost naked...

AUTO MS also need a tanker in SS and AUTO MS only kill 1 mob.

[Smilo 109]

32 minutes ago, YourAngel said:

Do you know BOM SHOT of ARCHER? It's really strong now.

Nice. Fire effect of BOM SHOOT is more damage than main skill.

AUTO MS also need a tanker in SS and AUTO MS only kill 1 mob.

yeah and wheres the difference ? archer and mech both need a tank and cant survive alone but a real ranger class like archer got lower damage than mech got.. wow archer got aoe skills.... to make aoe damage on 1 mob since more cant be tanked... really helpful... i got a mech myself and I think too that its OP. Damage of archer should be higher than his one. Just cause its not a real ranger class without ranger skills to attack...

[YourAngel 14]

3 minutes ago, Smilo said:

yeah and wheres the difference ? archer and mech both need a tank and cant survive alone but a real ranger class like archer got lower damage than mech got.. wow archer got aoe skills.... to make aoe damage on 1 mob since more cant be tanked... really helpful... i got a mech myself and I think too that its OP. Damage of archer should be higher than his one. Just cause its not a real ranger class without ranger skills to attack...

I have 1 tanker ms, 1 auto ms and 1 archer.

Tanker MS can tank 2 mobs in SS. With auto MS, i only kill 1 mob then 1 mob. With Archer, AOE damage effect on 2 mobs.

What do you think about this?

Please don't compare AUTO MS with ARCHER. I think that DAMAGE of ARCHER is not weaker than AUTO MS.

[Smilo 109]

not everybody got 2 mechs... or can tank more than 1 mob in SS... and yes i compare auto ms to archer cause i have both and archer got a shit low dmg against mech... but since u got 2 mechs no wonder u dont want that it get nerfed...

[wtrab209b 57]

Make love, not war.

 

Instead of trying to nerf everything down the road, trying to buff/make changes to other classes to their best, or fun to play is way better.

Playing game is supposed to be entertaining, not to be hateful.

e.g: FS sucks for years and no one gave a f***, who give a f*** about his "Fire attribute" skill, while "Rage of Zeckram" is an interesting skill

[YourAngel 14]

8 minutes ago, Smilo said:

not everybody got 2 mechs... or can tank more than 1 mob in SS... and yes i compare auto ms to archer cause i have both and archer got a shit low dmg against mech... but since u got 2 mechs no wonder u dont want that it get nerfed...

if you want you Archer shoot faster, use Phoenix Speed then shoot. You will get surprise result.

You have to use more potion but your as will shoot faster.

[Lyseria 1,823]

17 minutes ago, YourAngel said:

You have to use more potion but your as will shoot faster.

PH speed doesn't increase attack speed.

[suesue 234]

41 minutes ago, YourAngel said:

Please don't compare AUTO MS with ARCHER. I think that DAMAGE of ARCHER is not weaker than AUTO MS.

you think that but reality totally is different

[YourAngel 14]

28 minutes ago, Lyseria said:

PH speed doesn't increase attack speed.

PH SPEED make your AS move faster and this effect help you as shoot faster. You can check it if you want.