PVP Lag Abuse Fix

[Haven 0]

Just curious on when this is being implemented, not to bother or anything.

 

I didn't know if its going to be sooner rather than later.

 

Had a nice run in with a badly equipped lagger today who happens to be on the top of the PVP charts  ;D

 

Pissed me off 

[L 748]

Its needed ofc

[caeuterere 0]

i never know what is this "lag abuse". what is this?

[Haven 0]

i never know what is this "lag abuse". what is this?

 

I'll give you an example, Badly geared 12x wearing 106 Armor, killing better geared 12x's of the same level.

 

11x's not dying because they're so laggy

 

Getting killed with nobody visibly attacking you

[caeuterere 0]

i never know what is this "lag abuse". what is this?

 

I'll give you an example, Badly geared 12x wearing 106 Armor, killing better geared 12x's of the same level.

 

11x's not dying because they're so laggy

 

Getting killed with nobody visibly attacking you

how someone can "abuse" if is a net problem? and how gms can fix it if is a personal net problem?

[randyhuynh 0]

i dont think they can fix lag in PVP

 

every person connection to server are different and every one have different internet depends on where they live.

 

so i dont get how they can fix cause this is a problem in almost every game unless they banned certain countries from the game

[PaynEeE 0]

exists some people that take modem at the hand and stick putting on / off the cable, connections lag, but don´t take DC

 

others, use programs that consumes all connection and go to pvp

 

 

lag abuse..

 

to "fix" this problem, is just put a limit to the ping, when pass this limit don´t do any damage

[Haven 0]

exists some people that take modem at the hand and stick putting on / off the cable, connections lag, but don´t take DC

 

others, use programs that consumes all connection and go to pvp

 

 

lag abuse..

 

to "fix" this problem, is just put a limit to the ping, when pass this limit don´t do any damage

 

That's the discussed fix for it which I think is good. If you don't have a good enough connection (over 500 ping) you do no dmg, and you dmg is taken down in percentages according to your lag. The fact is I don't care where your from, the majority of players don't lag so much that they can't make it under 500 ping, unless they're abusing or having ISP problems that day.

[randyhuynh 0]

my ping is 100 to server from usa (east) and i log 2-4 account everytime i play

 

people who live in NL is like 0 - 10

 

so im a lagger? no lol

 

but someone in asia or South america maybe 500-1k and never can fix this cause they live far and/or they dont have the internet we have

 

so they cant just add something cause its base on people internet / how much they pay for it, its impossible,. it depends on where the person live and their economy / Technology

[Haven 0]

my ping is 100 to server from usa (east) and i log 2-4 account everytime i play

 

people who live in NL is like 0 - 10

 

so im a lagger? no lol

 

but someone in asia or South america maybe 500-1k and never can fix this cause they live far and/or they dont have the internet we have

 

so they cant just add something cause its base on people internet / how much they pay for it, its impossible,. it depends on where the person live and their economy / Technology

 

When you pick a server to play on, location should be a factor, and that is not to be insensitive, but the server needs to cater to the needs of those whom it was meant to cater to.

[rptps 1]

my ping is 100 to server from usa (east) and i log 2-4 account everytime i play

 

people who live in NL is like 0 - 10

 

so im a lagger? no lol

 

but someone in asia or South america maybe 500-1k and never can fix this cause they live far and/or they dont have the internet we have

 

so they cant just add something cause its base on people internet / how much they pay for it, its impossible,. it depends on where the person live and their economy / Technology

i completely agree with ur post.

if we change damage fomular bases on ping time it would be sux.

[babyarcher 0]

exists some people that take modem at the hand and stick putting on / off the cable, connections lag, but don´t take DC

 

others, use programs that consumes all connection and go to pvp

 

 

lag abuse..

 

to "fix" this problem, is just put a limit to the ping, when pass this limit don´t do any damage

 

That's the discussed fix for it which I think is good. If you don't have a good enough connection (over 500 ping) you do no dmg, and you dmg is taken down in percentages according to your lag. The fact is I don't care where your from, the majority of players don't lag so much that they can't make it under 500 ping, unless they're abusing or having ISP problems that day.

 

I have 500 ping on normal days (in Singapore), and I don't lag, damage dealt is almost instantaneous. I don't know how certain people with shitty gear can tank 13x with full donated +20 and abuse their ping that way, but it's definitely way beyond 500 ping.

[tommylizard 1]

Proposital lag is different than bad internet lag.

Proposital one can help you tank and kill, but if you have a lousy internet you deal no damage do other people and die instantaneously (?).

[babyarcher 0]

Proposital lag is different than bad internet lag.

Proposital one can help you tank and kill, but if you have a lousy internet you deal no damage do other people and die instantaneously (?).

 

No idea what proposital lag is.. but I assume that's the lag abuse we're talking about here?

 

Mine isn't bad internet lag, Singapore has a very developed internet/whatever infrastructure. It's just distance from server.

[davv 2]

Regardless of weather or not this is true. Don't involve a whole clan with such accusations.

[Fuel 0]

The true hurt davvowl?

Sandur is working on this and u know.. or i think u know what im talking about right? But u know, u delete my other post. 

[fyurian 0]

kinda buggs me aswell i died 4 times of a fruitcage pike who i only saw 2seconds after i died

i just quit pvp at that point really

[Haven 0]

kinda buggs me aswell i died 4 times of a fruitcage pike who i only saw 2seconds after i died

i just quit pvp at that point really

 

& somehow a stacked 130 FS can't kill the same individual I'm talking about in the 106 armor. How funny.

[fyurian 0]

 

& somehow a stacked 130 FS can't kill the same individual I'm talking about in the 106 armor. How funny.

yea but the fs is controlled by a noob ^^

only my armor is good

[Guest TFSE]

The true hurt davvowl?

Sandur is working on this and u know.. or i think u know what im talking about right? But u know, u delete my other post. 

 

Actually, I deleted it.

 

davv already said not to make accusations whether true or not. It doesn't help to fix lag, it only causes flames. Your post was unnecessary.

[randyhuynh 0]

 

 

i aint gonna lie but just download alot of programs and play is how u do it .

 

 

[arturo2366 0]

Well ill tell u a way we discovered ppl is using in UniqueWorld

 

Quote from UW:

Theres a new mech build totally awesome with this buil you can rape everyone, no need big expensive items just a few bucks and this things: >>>

 

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Quote Report [Exploit-Lag Abuse] A lot of players:

 

Since like 2 weeks or more ppl started to notice about ppl with "god mode on" like this report:

http://www.uniquept.net/forums/index.php?topic=224975.0

 

But seems like they shared theyr "trick" and now a lot of players are using this to have fun ofc because the unfair advantage that they get, you can read about this "trick-glitch" here: (Check Hitbuster reply)

http://www.dfosource.com/forum/pvp-discussion/14250-new-pvp-hack-going-around.html

 

Thats how archers 10x-12x can kill a lot of 14x and get this awesome scores at pvp rank, and how 11x archer can tank 4 well equiped 13x-14x, all ppl noticed that you hit the ground before being hitted by enemies and time later you will see enemies hitting the air, they die after going out of the flags, etc; and all the ppl who normally pvp have noticed this.

 

Last SW i couldnt even clic on many of the players because they were in another place with this "desync glitch", 2 days before i was testing this and killed some ata i wont name and i ran out of flags because she wasnt getting any damage at all, after that some ks started to hit her and she went to the floor... ive asked clannies who killed this ata, they asnwered: You... and miracle!!! 1 bp appeared over my head, some ppl think its normal lag but it isnt a lot of ppl checked net speed, ping, eveything was fine, we know server is lagged due to some hosting issues but it only make it worst.

 

This glitch give to lag abuser this advantages:

 

1- Dont receive most of the damage unless the damage makes theyr whole HP down to 0 in wich case they hit the ground. If the attacker doesnt inflict enought damage to empty theyre full HP they can easily run so far away or pot a lot because for them eveything flows in slow-mo.

 

2- Inflict accumulated damage to others when they hit you theyre out of sync so when they sync with the server you get all the damage they where trying to inflict giving you no chance to heal or even notice that they are next to your or hitting you. Thats how archers with low lvl and bad items can kill heavy tankers because when tankers noticed about them attacking they get like 10 PS in an blink of an eye.

 

3- Other players sometimes cant even click on you because they desync and when you try to click they are almost out of the server but suddenly they sync and appear in another location, sometimes dead... with this you can see them dying in "deja vu mode" so you can enjoy watching them fall and by miracle being up again and falling back again... thats why you see other ppl like teleporting or suddenly speed up.

 

I know that maybe GMs are aware of this situation but theres no official announce at all, and i think its pretty decent to have an explanation about this like any other stuff related to the server in wich we play, i hope a lot of GMs will be online this next SW so they can check this on theyre own and do something about.

 

My suggestion is that GMs take the BC and keep it until this issue gets solved so no one can abuse of this and get this big unfair advantage, in realm world they are having the same problem. Some ppl abused of this for pvp rank purpose but now theres a lot of ppl using this and its ruinning the fair game in BC because the list of players who abuse of this is pretty big.

 

PD: i wont post SS because they can be noticed only ingame. Hope that you GMs can read this and do some announce about because players are so dissapointed about this. The only way to be strong in BC was to be high lvl, good items and fast net... but now any 11x can get tons of pvp xp killing 14x with this.

 

Check this video: http://www.youtube.com/user/SuperRockfire#p/a/u/2/GbT33FnNhPA

(due to some problems and lack of knowledge about videos it ended up being faster than real time but you can see how long this laggers can tank with no damage at all).

 

-In the firsts seconds you can see that the ata 1st die and later enemies move to her place and hit her several times.

-At the end of the video you can see how the KS got the bp and he wasnt even there... a lot of time after ata already died.

-Look how much they hit in the air and teleport themselves steps far from original position.

 

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Its better than AutoMech have more range tha archer and same atp is LaggaMech!!!!

He can hit you from so far and you will receive accumulated damage because of this glitch to lag...

He can even kill you before being on screen also thi build works perfectly on bsbers

if its archer low lvl better you will get dreams scores in pvp rank, also works on every char in game.

 

PD: its just a joke nothing personal, this isnt a report because you guys just lag because the cheap net like mine curiously i dont lag, i just wanted to share this funny video ive almost peed myself laughing.

PD2: now that everyone know about all can be able to abuse of this so... LET THE LAG WARS BEGINS!

 

 

PD3: You can choose to join the darkside of the lag  :

 

Also check UW pvp rank (taken today):

 

 

Check on 11x and explain me how an 11x char ata-as pure can tank 3-more 14x players full best items best mix +20 and even kill them to get this dream scores are they pro and 14x noobs? and they can hit with more power than the last weapon +20? we all know the answer check on everything ive posted up ^ and question yourself why ppl will donate to keep this 2 servers online and working if 11x players with cheap stuff can rape them using this... now everyone is creating lower lvl chars to get the top in pvp rank... one crazy thing that "maybe" can help is removing pvp rank so they cant win anything and maybe they will stop abusing this.... other thing is sw... in sw you cant even click on them many times and you suddenly fall to the floor without seeing anyone hitting you... i think this should be fixed and gms are quite aware of that...

[Haven 0]

Well ill tell u a way we discovered ppl is using in UniqueWorld

 

Quote from UW:

Theres a new mech build totally awesome with this buil you can rape everyone, no need big expensive items just a few bucks and this things: >>>

 

=========================================================================

=========================================================================

 

Quote Report [Exploit-Lag Abuse] A lot of players:

 

Since like 2 weeks or more ppl started to notice about ppl with "god mode on" like this report:

http://www.uniquept.net/forums/index.php?topic=224975.0

 

But seems like they shared theyr "trick" and now a lot of players are using this to have fun ofc because the unfair advantage that they get, you can read about this "trick-glitch" here: (Check Hitbuster reply)

http://www.dfosource.com/forum/pvp-discussion/14250-new-pvp-hack-going-around.html

 

Thats how archers 10x-12x can kill a lot of 14x and get this awesome scores at pvp rank, and how 11x archer can tank 4 well equiped 13x-14x, all ppl noticed that you hit the ground before being hitted by enemies and time later you will see enemies hitting the air, they die after going out of the flags, etc; and all the ppl who normally pvp have noticed this.

 

Last SW i couldnt even clic on many of the players because they were in another place with this "desync glitch", 2 days before i was testing this and killed some ata i wont name and i ran out of flags because she wasnt getting any damage at all, after that some ks started to hit her and she went to the floor... ive asked clannies who killed this ata, they asnwered: You... and miracle!!! 1 bp appeared over my head, some ppl think its normal lag but it isnt a lot of ppl checked net speed, ping, eveything was fine, we know server is lagged due to some hosting issues but it only make it worst.

 

This glitch give to lag abuser this advantages:

 

1- Dont receive most of the damage unless the damage makes theyr whole HP down to 0 in wich case they hit the ground. If the attacker doesnt inflict enought damage to empty theyre full HP they can easily run so far away or pot a lot because for them eveything flows in slow-mo.

 

2- Inflict accumulated damage to others when they hit you theyre out of sync so when they sync with the server you get all the damage they where trying to inflict giving you no chance to heal or even notice that they are next to your or hitting you. Thats how archers with low lvl and bad items can kill heavy tankers because when tankers noticed about them attacking they get like 10 PS in an blink of an eye.

 

3- Other players sometimes cant even click on you because they desync and when you try to click they are almost out of the server but suddenly they sync and appear in another location, sometimes dead... with this you can see them dying in "deja vu mode" so you can enjoy watching them fall and by miracle being up again and falling back again... thats why you see other ppl like teleporting or suddenly speed up.

 

I know that maybe GMs are aware of this situation but theres no official announce at all, and i think its pretty decent to have an explanation about this like any other stuff related to the server in wich we play, i hope a lot of GMs will be online this next SW so they can check this on theyre own and do something about.

 

My suggestion is that GMs take the BC and keep it until this issue gets solved so no one can abuse of this and get this big unfair advantage, in realm world they are having the same problem. Some ppl abused of this for pvp rank purpose but now theres a lot of ppl using this and its ruinning the fair game in BC because the list of players who abuse of this is pretty big.

 

PD: i wont post SS because they can be noticed only ingame. Hope that you GMs can read this and do some announce about because players are so dissapointed about this. The only way to be strong in BC was to be high lvl, good items and fast net... but now any 11x can get tons of pvp xp killing 14x with this.

 

Check this video: http://www.youtube.com/user/SuperRockfire#p/a/u/2/GbT33FnNhPA

(due to some problems and lack of knowledge about videos it ended up being faster than real time but you can see how long this laggers can tank with no damage at all).

 

-In the firsts seconds you can see that the ata 1st die and later enemies move to her place and hit her several times.

-At the end of the video you can see how the KS got the bp and he wasnt even there... a lot of time after ata already died.

-Look how much they hit in the air and teleport themselves steps far from original position.

 

=========================================================================

=========================================================================

 

Its better than AutoMech have more range tha archer and same atp is LaggaMech!!!!

He can hit you from so far and you will receive accumulated damage because of this glitch to lag...

He can even kill you before being on screen also thi build works perfectly on bsbers

if its archer low lvl better you will get dreams scores in pvp rank, also works on every char in game.

 

PD: its just a joke nothing personal, this isnt a report because you guys just lag because the cheap net like mine curiously i dont lag, i just wanted to share this funny video ive almost peed myself laughing.

PD2: now that everyone know about all can be able to abuse of this so... LET THE LAG WARS BEGINS!

 

 

PD3: You can choose to join the darkside of the lag  :

 

Also check UW pvp rank (taken today):

 

 

Check on 11x and explain me how an 11x char ata-as pure can tank 3-more 14x players full best items best mix +20 and even kill them to get this dream scores are they pro and 14x noobs? and they can hit with more power than the last weapon +20? we all know the answer check on everything ive posted up ^ and question yourself why ppl will donate to keep this 2 servers online and working if 11x players with cheap stuff can rape them using this... now everyone is creating lower lvl chars to get the top in pvp rank... one crazy thing that "maybe" can help is removing pvp rank so they cant win anything and maybe they will stop abusing this.... other thing is sw... in sw you cant even click on them many times and you suddenly fall to the floor without seeing anyone hitting you... i think this should be fixed and gms are quite aware of that...

 

Swag.

 

I think that pretty much sums it up

[arturo2366 0]

Swag.

 

I think that pretty much sums it up

 

but what will gms do? im still waiting for official announce  :'(

and this guys abuse of lag, gms confirmed themselves

[Haven 0]

Swag.

 

I think that pretty much sums it up

 

but what will gms do? im still waiting for official announce  :'(

and this guys abuse of lag, gms confirmed themselves

 

Wartale is actively working on a fix, we just have to see what it will be. I won't be PVPing till its fixed...let alone playing if it takes too long to get fixed =X

I love PVP but its so messed up right now