Ranger build in high lvl maps

[Hellnation 239]

Hey guys.

I was posting a suggestion about rangers HP and that its is Not fun to play on 2 clients to have a tanker and dps, and it got closed and I got this answer from the support 

 

“Please take note that how ranger was played originally in this game. You just need to adapt your build instead of rely on tanker. Time to build ranger properly instead of pure agi build for max damage.”

 

So my questions is this:

1. Any ranger here would have been ranger if you added STR and HP to their stats? 
In my case if I do this I might play FS or other melee cause they already has the same dmg as full Agi ranger against PvE

2. If you had to build an STR and HP ranger. Which build would you go with? what items lvl... aka shield and armor 

3. Do you think there is a room for other builds rangers in game except full agi? Would you want one of those ranger in your party in SS or in any PQ? 
 

[Hawaii2 616]

23 minutes ago, Hellnation said:

Hey guys.

I was posting a suggestion about rangers HP and that its is Not fun to play on 2 clients to have a tanker and dps, and it got closed and I got this answer from the support 

 

“Please take note that how ranger was played originally in this game. You just need to adapt your build instead of rely on tanker. Time to build ranger properly instead of pure agi build for max damage.”

 

So my questions is this:

1. Any ranger here would have been ranger if you added STR and HP to their stats? 
In my case if I do this I might play FS or other melee cause they already has the same dmg as full Agi ranger against PvE

2. If you had to build an STR and HP ranger. Which build would you go with? what items lvl... aka shield and armor 

3. Do you think there is a room for other builds rangers in game except full agi? Would you want one of those ranger in your party in SS or in any PQ? 
 

i will have to agree to this, since rangers = they are well known for good damage.

Do you ever see a marksman in MMORPG build tank items to adapt to game play?

If archers add str to their stats or even hp stats, wouldn't it be better if  just class change to melee?

We can accept changes no problem, but please make it reasonable. At least make those monster crystals @Clem < i know u will +1 for this 

work in Shadow Sanctuary again, at least it will solve rangers issue. But instead of making all this work,

it became nerf on pvp builds instead. i think we should really focus on whats more important, 

For example ; Tier 5,

 

Monster crystals ( i'm sure if this crystals work, it will solve archers or in fact rangers issue for time being )

Lets all put our hands together as a player. No toxic, be a human, help one another.

Solve this issue and make this work / playable again.

 

 

Edited June 27, 2020 by Hawaii2

[Hellnation 239]

3 minutes ago, Hawaii2 said:

i will have to agree to this, since rangers = they are well known for good damage.

Do you ever see a marksman in MMORPG build tank items to adapt to game play?

If archers add str to their stats or even hp stats, wouldn't it be better if  just class change to melee?

We can accept changes no problem, but please make it reasonable. At least make those monster crystals 

work in Shadow Sanctuary again, at least it will solve rangers issue. But instead of making all this work,

it became nerf on pvp builds instead. i think we should really focus on whats more important, 

For example ; Tier 5,

 

Monster crystals ( i'm sure if this crystals work, it will solve archers or in fact rangers issue for time being )

Lets all put our hands together as a player. No toxic, be a human, help one another.

Solve this issue and make this work / playable again.

 

 

To be honest, if I could use a crystal in SS and don’t die 1000 time to one monster that would be a nice temporary fix to this problem. As I don’t see any reason in the world to add str or go to my ranger. 
if so I’d change to melee 

[lovebliss 85]

1. Any ranger here would have been ranger if you added STR and HP to their stats? 

I'm using auto-mech and i will never put any extra stats in STR

2. If you had to build an STR and HP ranger. Which build would you go with? what items lvl... aka shield and armor 

As an AS, i think maybe Gaia armor aged/mixed Sol vitality? probably just enough Str for AS Mythology Shield.

3. Do you think there is a room for other builds rangers in game except full agi? Would you want one of those ranger in your party in SS or in any PQ? 

No, unless other builds helps with damage. Unless I don't give a damn about drops, I would party another ranger just to help kill faster for exp with the nerf now ?

[benitez123 32]

52 minutes ago, Hawaii2 said:

i will have to agree to this, since rangers = they are well known for good damage.

Do you ever see a marksman in MMORPG build tank items to adapt to game play?

If archers add str to their stats or even hp stats, wouldn't it be better if  just class change to melee?

We can accept changes no problem, but please make it reasonable. At least make those monster crystals @Clem < i know u will +1 for this 

work in Shadow Sanctuary again, at least it will solve rangers issue. But instead of making all this work,

it became nerf on pvp builds instead. i think we should really focus on whats more important, 

For example ; Tier 5,

 

Monster crystals ( i'm sure if this crystals work, it will solve archers or in fact rangers issue for time being )

Lets all put our hands together as a player. No toxic, be a human, help one another.

Solve this issue and make this work / playable again.

 

 

The fact that you have to use another client to play as ranger is really something. Changing build of AS to an armor archer? Sacrificing lot of damage for a slight tankiness that isn't even noticable? No thanks. That's why I am in favor of having the pets/ crystals work in SS again or even just pet cause its a skill!!!!. You can't even kite the mobs there. Hit and run doesn't work in SS. 

Edited June 27, 2020 by benitez123

[Cran 26]

 

+1

[renerie 16]

28 minutes ago, Hawaii2 said:

i will have to agree to this, since rangers = they are well known for good damage.

Do you ever see a marksman in MMORPG build tank items to adapt to game play?

If archers add str to their stats or even hp stats, wouldn't it be better if  just class change to melee?

We can accept changes no problem, but please make it reasonable. At least make those monster crystals @Clem < i know u will +1 for this 

work in Shadow Sanctuary again, at least it will solve rangers issue. But instead of making all this work,

it became nerf on pvp builds instead. i think we should really focus on whats more important, 

For example ; Tier 5,

 

Monster crystals ( i'm sure if this crystals work, it will solve archers or in fact rangers issue for time being )

Lets all put our hands together as a player. No toxic, be a human, help one another.

Solve this issue and make this work / playable again.

 

 

Yes totally agree to fixing the crystals!! It will help SS class as well!!! I'm skipping SS daily quest due to ridiculous mob damage and non-working pets / crystals!!!

 

You can see people using PRS to tank while the others kill.. This is so wrong!!!

[thisisrauldo 805]

 

42 minutes ago, Hellnation said:

1. Any ranger here would have been ranger if you added STR and HP to their stats? 
2. If you had to build an STR and HP ranger. Which build would you go with? what items lvl... aka shield and armor 

3. Do you think there is a room for other builds rangers in game except full agi? Would you want one of those ranger in your party in SS or in any PQ? 
 

 

1. Yea, bad news... my ata is still ranger using 160 str ? although I use it more because the range of soul sucker is really low compared to the javelin skills from ata, so I get too near from the mobs to use it

 

2. U can try semi pure build, with phantom armor + 140 shield, i dont die with them with 1 hit on my ata when I do that

 

3. sure, why not? how can u know for sure the person it is or isnt using pure agility build nowdays with skins and everything else? I've already pted worse people on diq, didnt die because of it x) but yea, would be nice to at least have a tanky pet/xtal at SS/mobs dont run away from them, but Staff doesnt seems interested in changing that

[cuteako316 12]

5 minutes ago, benitez123 said:

The fact that you have to use another client to play as ranger is really something. Changing build of AS to an armor archer? Sacrificing lot of damage for a slight tankiness that is even noticable? No thanks. That's why I am in favor of having the pets/ crystals work in SS again or even just pet cause its a skill!!!!. You can't even kite the mobs there. Hit and run doesn't work in SS. 

AGREE!! Just please make pet work! im ATA 1 hit combo by bakan and rock. With armor, if i didn't get a block or evade i'm still 2 hits. so whats the point. 

Now they even buffed aoe damage of SS map with lower damage. So, would make it even harder now. 

Bring BACK PET PLEASE!!

[Hellnation 239]

4 minutes ago, thisisrauldo said:

 

 

1. Yea, bad news... my ata is still ranger using 160 str ? although I use it more because the range of soul sucker is really low compared to the javelin skills from ata, so I get too near from the mobs to use it

 

2. U can try semi pure build, with phantom armor + 140 shield, i dont die with them with 1 hit on my ata when I do that

 

3. sure, why not? how can u know for sure the person it is or isnt using pure agility build nowdays with skins and everything else? I've already pted worse people on diq, didnt die because of it x) but yea, would be nice to at least have a tanky pet/xtal at SS/mobs dont run away from them, but Staff doesnt seems interested in changing that

just a tiny reminder on 2. 
marcher use mostly 2 hands bow as 1 hand do ridiculousy low dmg 

[thisisrauldo 805]

3 minutes ago, Hellnation said:

just a tiny reminder on 2. 
marcher use mostly 2 hands bow as 1 hand do ridiculousy low dmg 

 

not thaaat ridiculous, 142 +24 bow gives 135 - 156 of atk pwr, my 138 +24 jave gives 144 - 164... u would be in my boat! welcome aboard!

[Clem 1,241]

2 hours ago, Hawaii2 said:

i will have to agree to this, since rangers = they are well known for good damage.

Do you ever see a marksman in MMORPG build tank items to adapt to game play?

If archers add str to their stats or even hp stats, wouldn't it be better if  just class change to melee?

We can accept changes no problem, but please make it reasonable. At least make those monster crystals @Clem < i know u will +1 for this 

work in Shadow Sanctuary again, at least it will solve rangers issue. But instead of making all this work,

it became nerf on pvp builds instead. i think we should really focus on whats more important, 

For example ; Tier 5,

 

Monster crystals ( i'm sure if this crystals work, it will solve archers or in fact rangers issue for time being )

Lets all put our hands together as a player. No toxic, be a human, help one another.

Solve this issue and make this work / playable again.

 

 

Totally agree with you ?

 

I already made some suggestions about it but unfortunately nothing has been done.

 

I don’t get what’s the goal of this idea from the team to not make Crystals & pets useful in game like it suppose to be ?! (Especially in SS map)
It’s one of the only MMORPG that you need to use 2 chars to be able to play in exp map with rangers (1 char that is afk)... non sense at all.

 

Whats more, moobs have some AOE damage, so it’s kinda fair for rangers, since you’ll have to pot too... and even melee will be able to use them. 

 

Furthermore, when you take such a decision, you have to think about the positive and negative impact of it ... there are a lot more positive impact ...

I won’t repeat it here because I already explain it  but it seems that is useless ..

 

But I’m sure that, it WILL improve the game play.

I stopped play rangers for that reason EVEN if I have a second char (PRS 15x full), but I hate dual, that’s it. 
 

About the answer from the staff, i don’t see in any Pristntale or MMORPG that you need a char afk to be able to play ... I still don’t get it, what’s the main reasons ? 

 

Here, an old suggestion that I made with some good ideas from the players : 

 

 

 

Edited June 27, 2020 by Clem