Prs mule char ... ?

[Clem 1,241]

Hello everyone,

 

I’m just curious if that is normal to see PRS working as a mule buff/tank in Shadow Sanctuary map, Bless castle map (safe zone, and now even in battle zone auto healing), Boss map ... To be honest in almost every map

 

I don’t get it... what’s the aim to let’s a class that is suppose to be a support like that. It totally broke the class and it’s nonsense at all.

 

Maybe players or the staff have enough arguments to explain it please because from my own experience it’s non sense at all.

 

What’s more, some players made good suggestions to improve the class & make it useful and not being a mule.... still no improvement.

 

Thanks,

Clem.

Edited September 28, 2020 by Clem

[geohound 49]

This again ? You never learn, do you ? Tell me, Why do we have NPC to reset skill, stats point at Ricarten ?. After played wartale for a long time, i cant believe there is still someone crying over how other people using their characters in game.

Edited September 28, 2020 by geohound

[Clem 1,241]

1 minute ago, vBerbes said:

Prs is not a mule buff if u want u can x1 my prs in bc prs is not a mule buff or tanker at all its what you like yes there are alot of ppl that use prs for buff/tank only and players like me do pvp with prs and it can kill i tell u top lvl char ms noob 2 sw ago died 1 hit by my prs x amount of times ?

Yeah I know that they improve her at bc ... but people still using it for miles in some maps 

[BigFoot 375]

22 minutes ago, Clem said:

Yeah I know that they improve her at bc ... but people still using it for miles in some maps 

nothing wrong about how people using their char while it doesn't break any rule

can you stop being a child please, you don't like something doesn't mean it's wrong

[Clem 1,241]

28 minutes ago, BigFoot said:

nothing wrong about how people using their char while it doesn't break any rule

can you stop being a child please, you don't like something doesn't mean it's wrong

I didn’t say that people are breaking the rules by using prs as a mule. That is not my topic subject.
Please read carefully my post before answering but thanks for taking time to read it. 

Clem.

Edited September 28, 2020 by Clem

[BigFoot 375]

16 minutes ago, Clem said:

I didn’t say that people are breaking the rules by using prs as a mule. 
Please read carefully my post before answering.

Thanks in advance 

you said prs mule buff/tank is non sense (for you) but it makes sense for many peoples

a healer is suppose to be a buff and can tank, what do you want prs to be? a damage dealer ?

tell me what scenario of prs using her skills of regen/heal but not a buff/tank ?

 

Edited September 28, 2020 by BigFoot

[Clem 1,241]

10 minutes ago, BigFoot said:

you said prs mule buff/tank is non sense (for you) but it makes sense for many peoples

a healer is suppose to be a buff and can tank, what do you want prs to be? a damage dealer ?

tell me what scenario of prs using her skills of regen/heal but not a buff/tank ?

 

 

Totally agree with you about that. But what’s the aim of making this char being able to be used semi afk & almost 100% afk.
When you play a support / tanker char you must be 100% active on the char whereas on wartale PRS can be used while you are playing your main char. I don’t call this a support char Atm but a mule char. 

Edited September 28, 2020 by Clem

[BigFoot 375]

21 minutes ago, Clem said:

 

Totally agree with you about that. But what’s the aim of making this char being able to be used semi afk & almost 100% afk.
When you play a support / tanker char you must be 100% active on the char whereas on wartale PRS can be used while you are playing your main char. I don’t call this a support char Atm but a mule char. 

Trust me this is the only way a healer can be used in this game because we have potion.

This is not the game where others char calling help from a healer when they run out of hp/mp, they can use potion anytime.

Honestly in 1x1 exp/hunt in SL/SS map now, making a 100% active prs is a dead move because nobody want a prs like that in party if it's not a good damage dealer (and prs will never using healing skills in this case).

 

Edited September 28, 2020 by BigFoot

[lt1genv 493]

I have been constantly harassed and killed MANY MANY MANY times in BC - SW only by priestesses!

 

What in God's name are you crying on about?

 

 

Edited September 28, 2020 by lt1genv

[imjustyourpapa 83]

Wow?  You new in playing Wartale? LMAO. 

It's players choice to make whatever they want to do with PRS. Any character can be a Mule. ? 
Specially for those characters have useful buffs. It's a norm ingame. 

[Dior 633]

haha the system is broken long time ago.

 

Prs is more effective than FS in BC.

 

1 on 1 FS can't kill PRS. cool right ?

 

most of the players here are kids who cry about their class to be the weakest.

Usually the ones who play Fighter are the ones who don't cry and don't care much, but in hope that something some day will happen and there will be a balance.

 

if you make MAGE and PRS roll back again to be WEAK in BC 1vs1 and make them SUPPORT class as they were before.

then maybe tons of pilots and mules would not log in 10 chars to buff their PVP char.

this is hilarious and pathetic and it creates Selfish community.

why ? i don't need friends or clan mates to Party, i'll have my own bunch of mules to buff me.

 

Different classes is ALL about the game IS !

but community ruined it and GM fall to their tears.

 

See FPS games, you need a squad of 4 to make it great right ?

you can't Heal your self, be a sniper and put bombs and drop ammo to your self in one class right ?

 

MAKE Wartale GREAT AGAIN ?

 

 

[xkintaro 1,760]

11 hours ago, BigFoot said:

Trust me this is the only way a healer can be used in this game because we have potion.

This is not the game where others char calling help from a healer when they run out of hp/mp, they can use potion anytime.

said 100%

 

even though he is a "mule" character, he has the most valued, expensive and most sought after items, what bother other people leveling PRS as a tanker?

as they said here on the topic, PRS can do PVP and hunt, if someone is going to play only prs there will be no problem

[Hyuga Hinata 30]

Exactly, she's just a support character, just like sakura in the Naruto manga

[wolf0119 267]

26 minutes ago, Hyuga Hinata said:

Exactamente, ella es solo un personaje de apoyo, como Sakura en el manga de Naruto.

The prs is more useful than sakura

[jcompher 238]

I use a PRS as my main.  And the only time I use regen field is in Hells Gate.  I use her to up other chars in the XP maps because her area attack is awesome and she's a super badass in SL with extinction, I just run around the map killing undead all day.  She can also tank in SS by herself if her stats are set right.  A friend of mine is an archer.  In SS she stands behind me and helps me kill while I tank it for the both of us. So she's not just a mule/buff/tank whatever for some people.  There's no right or wrong way to play a character.  Stop judging.

[FredderickS 78]

On 28/9/2020 at 4:16, Clem said:

Hola a todos,

 

Solo tengo curiosidad por saber si eso es normal para ver a PRS trabajando como un beneficio de mula / tanque  en el mapa del Santuario de las Sombras, el mapa del castillo Bless (zona segura y ahora incluso en la curación automática de la zona de batalla), el mapa del jefe ... casi todos los mapas

 

No lo entiendo ... cuál es el objetivo de hacer una clase que se supone que es un apoyo así. Rompió totalmente la clase y es una tontería en absoluto.

 

Tal vez los jugadores o el personal tengan suficientes argumentos para explicarlo , por favor, porque según mi propia experiencia, no tiene ningún sentido.

 

Además, algunos jugadores hicieron buenas sugerencias para mejorar la clase y hacerla útil y no ser una mula ... todavía no hay mejoría.

 

Gracias,

Ayunarse.

No one here is going to tell you that you are right.
And that the prs mule build is immoral.
Unfortunately it's the only way
They don't care that the prs is an unbalanced pj as long as they give benefits to their Mains

Now my problem is not that the Build Mule - Prs exists ... the problem is that the game allows it openly and that its benefits are better than playing Prs Main in BC ... and the developers shut our mouths with a Power UP in VB ... As if they could Hide the Sun with a Finger.

This is wrong and nobody wants to acknowledge it.
at least Reduce the benefits of the Build Mule - Prs

ITEMS ORBS adjustments 
Change of 10% to 5% Def rate. (This change seeks to balance defense of Orbs vs shield and Mixing Formule)
Move HP Attribute of the Orbs to Robe
Move MP Attribute of the Orbs to Robe
 

 Healing
Rework Formule
Now Formule Healing based on spirit.
Now Restore 50% Healing into others Players.

Level	HP Restored	MP Usage	STM Usage	Here the developers made a serious mistake by hitting it in their formula based on weapon damage
1	12 (+Spirit/5) - 32 (+Spirit/5)	11	15	his motivates the creation of builds type Suport or mule.
2	14 (+Spirit/5) - 34 (+Spirit/5)	14	16	Having skills aimed at only buffing other classes is fine but it must be handled responsibly
3	16 (+Spirit/5) - 36 (+Spirit/5)	17	17	to avoid cases like these where the buff matters more than the class itself.
4	18 (+Spirit/4) - 38 (+Spirit/4)	20	18
5	20 (+Spirit/4) - 40 (+Spirit/4)	24	19
6	22 (+Spirit/4) - 42 (+Spirit/4)	28	20
7	24 (+Spirit/3) - 44 (+Spirit/3)	32	21
8	26 (+Spirit/3) - 46 (+Spirit/3)	37	22
9	28 (+Spirit/3) - 48 (+Spirit/3)	42	23
10	30 (+Spirit/2) - 50 (+Spirit/2)	47	24

 

 Divine Lightning

Now Added Atk Pow for void Unbalance
Divine Lightning gets an additional +50% Damage Boost Vs. undead monsters.

Level	Damage Boost	Added Atk Pow	# of Bolts	Range
1	32%	25	4	180
2	34%	30	5	180
3	36%	35	5	180
4	38%	40	6	180
5	40%	45	6	180
6	42%	50	7	180
7	44%	55	7	180
8	46%	60	8	180
9	48%	65	8	180
10	50%	70	9	180

 

 Holy Reflection

Rework Skills
Now moved Absorbs Undead of Summon Muspell to Holy Reflection for best early Game.
Reduced absorbs Undead of 50% to 33% into level 10

Level	Reflect Dmg	Absorbs Undead Dmg	Cool down
1	15%	6%	5.5 sec
2	30%	9%	5.5 sec
3	45%	12%	6.0 sec
4	60%	15%	6.0 sec
5	75%	18%	6.5 sec
6	90%	21%	6.5 sec
7	105%	24%	7.0 sec
8	120%	27%	7.0 sec
9	135%	30%	7.5 sec
10	150%	33%	7.5 sec

 

 Grand Healing

Rework Formule
Now Formule Healing based on spirit.
Now Restore 50% Healing into others Players.

Level	HP Restored	Range	MP Usage	STM Usage	Upgrade Fee
1	35 (+Spirit/5) - 55 (+Spirit/5)	300	24	27	9,000
2	40 (+Spirit/5) - 60 (+Spirit/5)	310	26	28	10,600
3	45 (+Spirit/5) - 65 (+Spirit/5)	320	29	29	12,200
4	50 (+Spirit/4) - 70 (+Spirit/4)	330	32	30	13,800
5	55 (+Spirit/4) - 75 (+Spirit/4)	340	36	31	15,400
6	60 (+Spirit/4) - 80 (+Spirit/4)	350	40	32	17,000
7	65 (+Spirit/3) - 85 (+Spirit/3)	360	44	33	18,600
8	70 (+Spirit/3) - 90 (+Spirit/3)	370	49	34	20,200
9	75 (+Spirit/3) - 95 (+Spirit/3)	380	54	35	21,800
10	80 (+Spirit/2) - 100 (+Spirit/2)	390	59	36	23,400

 

 Vigor Ball

Now Added Atk Pow for void Unbalance
Vigor Ball does an additional +80% Damage Boost Vs. Undead monsters.

Level	Damage Boost	Added Atk Pow	Atk Rtg Boost	Currently the prs can inflict more damage than the Archer
1	40%	40	8%	Damage Boost Reduced for a best Balance
2	50%	50	16%	this may change depending on how the new prs adapts
3	60%	60	24%
4	70%	70	32%
5	80%	80	40%
6	90%	90	48%
7	100%	100	56%
8	110%	110	64%
9	120%	120	72%
10	130%	130	80%

 

 Virtual Life

Rework Formule
Now Reduced the increase HP boost% avoid over improving tankers and mules with a lot of HP
Now added HP in static amounts to upgrade any low hp chars
Now Moved the 10% abs buff against monsters to Regeneration Field Skill.

Level	HP Boost	Added HP	Cool down
1	6%	15	2 sec
2	7%	30	2 sec
3	8%	45	2.5 sec
4	9%	60	2.5 sec
5	10%	75	3 sec		These changes are intended to balance the increase in hp so that it benefits all classes
6	11%	90	3 sec		It is not right that a suport buff only benefits more to those with the highest amount of HP
7	12%	105	3.5 sec		no other RPG has a buff so unbalanced And if I were in my position to decide, I would eliminate the HP Boost %.
8	13%	120	3.5 sec
9	14%	135	4 sec		Example with more than 1000hp: if u Max HP is 1500, Now u gain (1500+150)*1.15 = 1897.5 Max HP
10	15%	150	4 sec		Example with less than 1000hp: if u Max HP is 800, Now u gain (800+150)*1.15 = 1192.15 Max HP

 

 Glacial Spike

Now Added Atk Pow for void Unbalance

Level	Dmg Boost	Added Atk Pow	Freeze Chance	Freeze Duration	Freeze Strength	Range
1	46%	70	35%	7 seconds	25%	150
2	52%	80	40%	8 seconds	25%	155
3	58%	90	45%	9 seconds	25%	160
4	64%	100	50%	10 seconds	25%	165
5	70%	110	55%	11 seconds	25%	170
6	76%	120	60%	12 seconds	25%	175
7	82%	130	65%	13 seconds	25%	180
8	88%	140	70%	14 seconds	25%	185
9	94%	150	75%	15 seconds	25%	190
10	100%	160	80%	16 seconds	25%	195

 

 Regeneration Field
Rework Playability
Now the prs can move after casting the skills
Now is a Buff Type Aura Example Advent Miranda(SS) or Wing-Alas(ASS)
Now Increases the absorb of the targeted friend for a period of time against monsters.

Creates a Regeneration field to temporarily increase the HP Recovery and MP Recovery of yourself and your party members.
Require Level: 63

Require Item: Wand, Staff

Type: Buff

Cool down: 17.5 seconds

Level	HP Recovery	MP Recovery	Absorb vs PVE	Duration	Area
1	+2	+4	1%	210 sec	250
2	+4	+8	2%	220 sec	260
3	+6	+12	3%	230 sec	270
4	+8	+16	4%	240 sec	280
5	+10	+20	5%	250 sec	290
6	+12	+24	6%	260 sec	300
7	+14	+28	7%	270 sec	310
8	+16	+32	8%	280 sec	320
9	+18	+36	9%	290 sec	330
10	+20	+40	10%	300 sec	340

 

 Chain Lightning

Now Added Atk Pow for void Unbalance
Add 50% damage boost Vs.Normal Monster

Level	Dmg Boost	Added Atk Pow	# of Bolts	Range
1	62%	90	5	125
2	64%	100	8	130
3	66%	110	11	135
4	68%	120	14	140
5	70%	130	17	145
6	72%	140	20	150
7	74%	150	23	155
8	76%	160	26	160
9	78%	170	29	165
10	80%	180	32	170

 

 Summon Muspell

Now not Added atk power. Why all skills hav Atk Power Static for avoid Unbalance.

Level	Added Attack Power	Evasion	Added Absorb vs All	Attack Interval			Here I remove the atk power increase bonus. Because according to the formulas that I am designing.
1	0 - 0	6%	1%	4 seconds			There is a balancing issue with Multi Spark Skills
2	0 - 0	7%	2%	4 seconds			And I also consider that no buff should be as complete as the current summon muspell
3	0 - 0	8%	3%	4 seconds			that provides offensive and defensive benefits.
4	0 - 0	9%	4%	3 seconds			There we have slots available to increase the damage to the muspell
5	0 - 0	10%	5%	3 seconds			so that it is a similar ability to the Dancing sword MGS
6	0 - 0	11%	6%	3 seconds
7	0 - 0	12%	7%	2 seconds
8	0 - 0	13%	8%	2 seconds
9	0 - 0	14%	9%	2 seconds
10	0 - 0	15%	10%	1 second

 

 Divine Force

Final damage boost bonus x2 Vs. Undead
50% of its benefits into other player

Level	Dmg Boost			Here I also consider that the percentage benefit should be removed or corrected so that only half benefits other players
1	2%			The problem is difficult to handle percentage buff without these not becoming too broken.
2	4%
3	6%
4	8%
5	10%
6	12%
7	14%
8	16%
9	18%
10	20%

 

 Ice Meteorite

Calls in an ice cold meteorite storm which will damage and freeze opponents near the strike area of each meteorite.
The freezing time is stacked on existing freeze time of the opponent.

Level	Damage Boost	Added Atk Pow	# of Meteorites	Dmg Area	Freeze Duration	Freeze Strength	Area
1	58%	130	4	62	0.5 seconds	20%	141
2	61%	140	4	64	1.0 seconds	20%	142
3	64%	150	4	66	1.5 seconds	20%	143
4	67%	160	5	68	2.0 seconds	20%	144
5	70%	170	5	70	2.5 seconds	20%	145
6	73%	180	5	72	3.0 seconds	20%	146
7	76%	190	6	74	3.5 seconds	20%	147
8	79%	200	6	76	4.0 seconds	20%	148
9	82%	210	6	78	4.5 seconds	20%	149
10	85%	220	7	80	5.0 seconds	20%	150

 

 Thunderstorm

Create a devastating thunderstorm.

Require Level: 86

Require Item: Wand, Staff

Type: Active
Cool down: 15 seconds

Level	Dmg Boost	Added Atk Pow	Impact Area	Attacks	Attack Interval	Attack Range		this skill is similar to the press deity(SS)
1	60%	120	130	1	0 sec	300
2	65%	140	135	2	7.5 sec	300
3	70%	160	140	3	5 sec	300
4	75%	180	145	4	3.75 sec	300
5	80%	200	150	5	3 sec	300
6	85%	220	155	6	2.5 sec	300
7	90%	240	160	7	2.15 sec	300
8	95%	260	165	8	1.875 sec	300
9	100%	280	170	9	1.67 sec	300
10	105%	300	175	10	1.5 sec	300

 

 Divine Cleansing
Rework Formule
Now only add 50% of its benefits into other player

Level	Range	Cooldown	Duration			Here I affect the duration considering that the caster has a time that it takes to complete the skill.
1	133	30 sec	2.1 (+Spirit/300)  seconds			If he uses it on himself he could get 1 to 3 seconds of invulnerability. What would be beneficial only for the Caster can give a few hits
2	136	30 sec	2.2 (+Spirit/290)  seconds			Added the possibility that the cooldown should be increased to avoid using the skill disproportionately
3	139	30 sec	2.3 (+Spirit/280)  seconds
4	142	30 sec	2.4 (+Spirit/270)  seconds
5	145	30 sec	2.5 (+Spirit/260)  seconds
6	148	30 sec	2.6 (+Spirit/250)  seconds
7	151	30 sec	2.7 (+Spirit/240)  seconds
8	154	30 sec	2.8 (+Spirit/230)  seconds
9	157	30 sec	2.9 (+Spirit/220)  seconds
10	160	30 sec	3.0 (+Spirit/210)  seconds

[kamuynoturno 291]

If u dont want Mule Prs Create an MS Good Luck

Just knowing how to play she doesn't just become a mule