How do they do this much damage?

[Molaxx 356]

 Good day for all!   I´m Molax i hope to you have a nice life ? 

 

 

Ok, so... i have one question for all players in this game,and its a serious question because i try to learn this game and i pratice the mode PVP too much since last week for better overwall in this mode,and try to test so many itens like :

 

-Brac 106

-Hell

-Brac 136

-Brac 140

-Brac 144

-Brac centlon

-Brac lvl 22

-Greedy

-Gaunt 140

-Boots 144

-Boots lvl 22

-Set boss 3

-Guide amulet 138

-Set rings lvl 0 mix sol 

-Staff 134

-Staff 142

-Wand 138

-wand 122

-Cheep hat

-Girafe hat

-Hallow. Hat

-Sod buff last week

-Normal char (no buffs)

 

 

And i test together many forms of biuld points like :

 

- 156 agi

- 90 tal

- 271 vit

- 750 int 

- 80 str

- 90 tal + 80 str

- 271 vit + 750 int

- 90 tal + 80 str + 973 int

- 156 agi +90 + 80 str + 750 int

 - 270 agi + 750 int +90 tal + 80 str

- 449 vit +561 int +77 tal+80 str

-  100 str + 100 tal +106 agi +100 vit + 5xx int 

 

 

You know,i test too many itens and forms to be like the same result of peoples in pvp ,and i we be like to say some peoples with i look this week and dont have one explain to all deal  2.000/3.000 /6.000 damage for 1 hit,and tank 3 peoples/4 peoples and sometimes tanking 6 peoples... 

 

 

 

Before i explain more,i need to see for all my stats to all have one ideia how about i talking about  in base of my itens.

 

1H

 

 

2H

 

 

 

Ok ?  I dont use draxos,so evade = 0 our evade = 24% with buffs remenber this.

 

 

 

Ok lets talking about PVP formulas and damage to deal /received :

 

 

1 LVL of difference = +2% deal dmg -2% dmg received  with your enemy .

 

1 ABS in PVP reduce 0.25% of DMG received.

100 DEFENSE  in PVP have  2.25% change to  deal : DEFENSE.

 

 

 

 So lets try one match ???

 

Kryon is one AS lvl 160,he's have more our lass 1.400 HP and 1.587 HP with VL,3.8k of defense pure and 5k with armor.   Kryon was  5 lvl's of difference with me,and he was got in lvl 160 full buffs extreme pure 3.400 Power attack with sol force. 

 

Kryon x Sieg =

 

Kryon lvl 160 x Sieg lvl 155

 

Kryon have =  +10% DMG deal ,-10% Dmg received.  x  Sieg  have = -10% dmg deal +10% dmg received.

 

Power attack of kryon is 3.740   / Power attack of Sieg is  1.388 

 

 

As formula's work at power of 270% more dmg with all buffs +crow SW. 

 

MG formula's work at power of 485 +/- more dmg with buffs  ,no crow SW.

 

BUT  In PVP the power of MG is   194% more dmg without BUFF /Crow sw.

 

 

 

Kryon have advantage with Seig.  but :

 

Kryon have 220 ABS so ... he's received :  -88% dmg overwall

Sieg have 330 abs so he's received : -132% dmg overwall 

 

 

This DMG is reducted by you POWER ATTACK OF SKILL . 

 

 

 

 

So : Kryon have more our less   400/600 dmg with Sieg ,and Sieg deal in Kryon more our less 1.000 dmg. 

 

 

 

 

All understand ?  Why its the final's nunber's?     Because you have change to block/evade/defense ,and you need to add buffs/crow/ your HP and your VITATILY in this question!   

 

 

 

But the fact is:  Kryon deal  2.790 DMG to Sieg.

 

 

How??? DUNNO! 

 

And he's received 500 DMG in pratice PVP. how????

 

 

 

 

 

 

I explain more : 

 

Have peoples in PVP with dont have one logic explain   to fact of they deal lots of dmg and tank so much.  

 

I was talking about this with Rediridium -KOM ,and he ask to me :  "OHHH,ITS ONLY BIULD,BECAUSE I PLAY WITH FS AT 8 YEARS."

 

Ok i understand this ,but you know ? .... 6.000 DMG in one Destroyer is not too much ???  The question is more big here....and i only try to understand ....

 

 

 

 

 

 

So ,have more our less 10/15 peoples in Wartale today,with not have one explain why they is so strong,tank so much ,i dont know honestly, and i TRY TO UNDERSTAND for why reason they are  so strong,because the formulas dont explain this ....  

 

I study too much game,and formulas,and try to pratice and aply this in game,but you know... what the reason  ??

 

 

 

I can like to invite same peoples here to EXPLAIN to all community  about why your char's is so strong and invencible...  its the correctly word to use here... INVENCIBLE.

 

 

I new in game,and you know,its so good to try learn with the best players of game and you know try to follow big names in wartale ... its good for all.

 

 

Please  i like to invite  for one reason and one good explain with your results in PVP what the reason for ,and how you conquer this ???

 

 

Please :

 

-RedIridium-

Kryon

 

Dissent™ MVBILL -MassaBruta- One♂Punch♂K.O   Army-Strong Argai Mizuhara         So i whaiting for one answer with  this guys,because i need to learn with the bests in PVP....   And i think all community need to look all answer  they say in forum,and maybe @Senpai  like to look  all questions here,for futures balacings ,maybe  .... ?      I not accusing  any ! I only try to learn,and look what happen with this chars.      Thanks a lot  for all,see all.

 

 

[Merenda 787]

-Stone- taught them how to build bro.

[ivan0012 326]

como tu e br vai a resposta em br. Aprenda a jogar. depois tente questionar alguem. (inflando o ego deles.) seu char e tão escroto que de 1h tem mais ataque que de 2h. tem 2k de dano (sem o ultimo cajado) e o seu mago? (so com o buff dela e force bellum) (sem coroa) com coroa pega uns 2.200 por ai com o ultimo cajado 2400-2500 (com pedra de defesa). E outra, cada um monta sua buid. do jeito que achar melhor. e muito choro pra pouco efetivo tava tão bom o forum sem voce. ( isso que quase nao entro no forum ) mais tudo oque esse pessoal faz no pvp e questão de level itens e buid ( e buffs claro ) fora isso nao tem segredo.

 

Edited October 30, 2020 by ivan0012

[Molaxx 356]

18 minutes ago, ivan0012 said:

como tu e br vai a resposta em br. Aprenda a jogar. depois tente questionar alguem. (inflando o ego deles.) seu char e tão escroto que de 1h tem mais ataque que de 2h. tem 2k de dano (sem o ultimo cajado) e o seu mago? (so com o buff dela e force bellum) (sem coroa) com coroa pega uns 2.200 por ai com o ultimo cajado 2400-2500 (com pedra de defesa). E outra, cada um monta sua buid. do jeito que achar melhor. e muito choro pra pouco efetivo tava tão bom o forum sem voce. ( isso que quase nao entro no forum ) mais tudo oque esse pessoal faz no pvp e questão de level itens e buid ( e buffs claro ) fora isso nao tem segredo.

 

 

Não entendi quase nada. Seja mais claro.

 

Em questão de não gostar de mim: Entra na fila que luz incomoda mesmo.

 

Forte abraço e desejos de boas coisas,Molax.

 

 

Edit :.  Quando o #Senpai editou meu tópico,ele deve ter trocado 1H por 2H,sei lá vai ficar assim ninguém é ******ado.

Edited October 30, 2020 by Molaxx

[- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,767]

they have an exclusive mount that gives them 50% extra damage, the cactus mount, you can test it on real life too

[Keshy 1,385]

Study the formulas better, something is missing there ...

Edited October 30, 2020 by Keshy
porque eu quis

[ik3r 952]

Looking the formulas, all class is ok IMO, only KS need a BUFF

- Sword Matesry increse to 60% in lvl 10

- Godly Shield increse reduce for 50% when use 2h weapon (with 2 h you dont have shield so need more def)

- DP increse dmg to 120%

- LS decrease colldown, i think 15seg will be ok

-GC need a little buff too, i think 100% dmg and 95% rating is ok for lvl 10

-DS increse def to 30% in lvl 10

[Molaxx 356]

34 minutes ago, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said:

they have an exclusive mount that gives them 50% extra damage, the cactus mount, you can test it on real life too

 

But i think you and all of your clan dont like sex.... lives online on BC :3 ❤️ AHUEAHUHUHUEHUEHUHUHUEUHEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHU 

 

Oh,i forgot,pilots ,pilots,pilots  ❤️ 

Edited October 30, 2020 by Molaxx

[Dinamitze 113]

there is no secret build and the game doesn’t even give you that much on that list I see only good players with good equipment

 

for example we have kryon who is playing with the worst class at the moment of pvp but he can do amazing things with the class for playing several years ?

[- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,767]

1 hour ago, Molaxx said:

But i think you and all of your clan dont like sex.... lives online on BC :3 ❤️

This is playe obvious,wartale is my life ?

I'm still waiting you to tell  the real reason you copied @[Zurita] profile 

 

[Molaxx 356]

1 minute ago, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said:

This is playe obvious,wartale is my life ?

I'm still waiting you to tell  the real reason you copied @[Zurita] profile 

 

 

 

 

Because i love the character Near/L in Death Note anime ,and i feeling this tow character's  reflect my personality and my life so much,and Zurita have a good ideia to put one wand in hands of "L", you know... "magic L",so its so amazing and  i love so much this zob and i dont resisted to copy and use this avatar,its uncredible and amazing.  Perfect for me,thanks so much Zurita for this genial ideia.  Hehe 

[diemurd 484]

Learn how to appreciate people who makes success. Its better to be a cool person and learn with them than hate everything because you are not able to do it yet. 

[Seog 118]

I play for Redlridiun and I don't see anything wrong with the account

Edited October 30, 2020 by Seog

[Molaxx 356]

7 minutes ago, diemurd said:

Learn how to appreciate people who makes success. Its better to be a cool person and learn with them than hate everything because you are not able to do it yet. 

 

Yes of corse. You have reason to speak this.  And try to understand and  try to think how this guy can this ?  You know ?  The questions move the world,and they need to question some things and the curious things was happen,agreed?   

 

So,i so happy to success of all,and i think its pretty good for game etc,but the question is : how?  

[kamuynoturno 291]

You don't even know what you're talking about,
first you don't even have the basis to know 
anything about Damage,
 First you get 165+ to have a Little Stats, 
Second that the Formula that is in the Forum is not the same as 
that used in the Game, Create a Topic About Damage and not even 
knowing what this is talking about is sad, study a little from 
what we saw in this topic you don't 
even know the class that plays,
let alone the others, good luck

Fa

 Fa

 

 

 

 

 

[Molaxx 356]

28 minutes ago, kamuynoturno said:

You don't even know what you're talking about,
first you don't even have the basis to know 
anything about Damage,
 First you get 165+ to have a Little Stats, 
Second that the Formula that is in the Forum is not the same as 
that used in the Game, Create a Topic About Damage and not even 
knowing what this is talking about is sad, study a little from 
what we saw in this topic you don't 
even know the class that plays,
let alone the others, good luck

Fa

 Fa

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1- What the base if you talking about? How you know this base is correct?

 

2- How you know the site formulas is not the current formulas used? 

 

3- how you know the ocult stats you gain at pass level,and what the dimension of this stats?

 

4- How you know i dont know if i talking about , if i explain and calculating the formulas and the damage?   Its not a assumption  its only match,and match never lie our misses.

 

5- you know all bases of all class ? you know all current formulas used in all class?  yo know all formulas damage working in class? 

 

 

Its good to try to understand ? 

[alberto47 44]

CLASS ALL BALANCE IS SUCK GM NEED FIXER SKILL DONT TRY UP %  ATTACK IN BC YOU NEED SKILL FIXER

[DarkLink64 921]

Just to put a little bit of salt here:

All the formulas on the guides are correct.
There is just one formula missing that is the formula of Defense Chance, and i've posted on forums many times.

Damage formula is just, final damage - abs.

Formulas of the game is super easy to understand, if you can't do so I recommend spending some time studying basic math, you can figure it out with just add and multiply

 

[Molaxx 356]

55 minutes ago, DarkLink64 said:

Just to put a little bit of salt here:

All the formulas on the guides are correct.
There is just one formula missing that is the formula of Defense Chance, and i've posted on forums many times.

Damage formula is just, final damage - abs.

Formulas of the game is super easy to understand, if you can't do so I recommend spending some time studying basic math, you can figure it out with just add and multiply

 

 

Hmmm.... So,if the formulas is correct and the math is correctly,and math always correct... the math say one damage  X and in real life in Wartale is different ,so have one biggest problem here.... 

 

Maybe,someone have one item,our some thing so powerfull.... DUNNO.....  ?

[vinixD 383]

Higher level players have higher chance to don't miss the damage and higher chance to defend received hits, that's all

Edited October 31, 2020 by vinixD

[Mrzero 123]

play pvp in 1 week not enough for u bro! we play in around 8-9 years that the difference   ? 

[kamuynoturno 291]

Formula is right only in the head of someone who is blind or illiterate

 

 

 

 

 

[Judass 3]

Nothing wrong here. Only you don't know how to play well in PVP.

So stop cry. ?

Edited October 31, 2020 by Judass

[ForYeri 149]

need a TL;DR,

so ur practical testing isn't the same with the formula?

 

 

from my understanding ur saying:

AS(Kryon)

3400 Attck Pow 

 

hit

 

MG(Sieg)

8414 def

330 abs

(btw, ur 1H and 2H pics are switched? how can 2H have better defense stats..)

 

and deals 2790 DMG,

but from ur calculation AS(Kryon) should only deal 400~600 DMG to MG(Sieg),

 

 

 

2790 DMG doesn't seem weird to me,

this game pvp is only about 1hit-kill or don't 1hit-kill,

well that's why many people say remove all pvp buff, it's just power creep, 

BECAUSE classes that cannot do 1hit-kill after all the buffs, are just useless in pvp, that's why magic classes suck in pvp, they can never 1hit-kill anyone and they also never do any DMG with area skills,

 

if MG/PRS can do 1hit-kill, they wouldn't be so useless, 

but if they do, MS/FS/AS/PS/KS/ASS/ATA will cry,

 

for the staff, they want to be fair, at the same time they want money, money and fairness doesn't come together, so they will always favorite some players, but I think at least they still ensure some kind of fairness, .."at least"

 

 

 

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Have peoples in PVP with dont have one logic explain   to fact of they deal lots of dmg and tank so much.  

players here play many years, they play by feeling not brains, I doubt they know simple maths, 

 

they tell u they deal a lot DMG, and you ask them why?

 

they tell u :"we play many years that's why high DMG,"

 

play many years = high DMG, yes

 

what answer did you expect? seriously?

 

[HollyShot 1,015]

looks like you want to suggest that we use edited item ?

btw all infos you said about my as are wrong~