What are the next "experiments" for Siege War?

[Merenda 769]

  On 11/8/2020 at 4:11 PM, Clem said:

I wasnt attacking the vahalla, just near.
 

But give more details, stun in general or especially KS? 

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The both, especially KS...

 

  On 11/8/2020 at 4:34 PM, HollyShot said:

well imo AoE skills are really fun in SW and makes sense in the "war"

this sw was fast and boring

I miss the dmg in perforation btw 

 

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Agreed, AoE skills turn this event into a "real war".

 

AoE skills are already overnerfed in damage & score scale... This Siege (can't call it a War) was the same as an Athanasia Siege...

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[kenibok 1,075]

  On 11/8/2020 at 4:03 AM, 1533 said:

 

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 i agree with you Dookie

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well.. have you ever sent a report? Or seen the answers given to some real problems? ..

Edited November 8, 2020 by kenibok

[nickloco2 14]

Congratz sw FULL STUN n 20min finished. Kkk

[Clem 1,244]

Well, I think it's a good idea to remove AOE in BC since when we use AOE skills we are all atacking everyone (our allies & ennemies).

There alot of people during SW, thats is to say 10 ppl use AOE on a tower, everyone got hitted & die in easy. 

Beside that, the one that really get impacted/killed by AOE is 14x & 15x chars. 

 

I personnaly think it's good as it is right now with the news changes, but let's see what the staff will say about it. 

 

About stun of KS @Merenda , maybe they should change LS in BC or during SW only? I dont know.... I already shared my idea about that skills in another post. 

Clem. 

[Merenda 769]

  On 11/8/2020 at 5:47 PM, Clem said:

Well, I think it's a good idea to remove AOE in BC since when we use AOE skills we are all atacking everyone (our allies & ennemies).

There alot of people during SW, thats is to say 10 ppl use AOE on a tower, everyone got hitted & die in easy. 

Beside that, the one that really get impacted/killed by AOE is 14x & 15x chars. 

 

I personnaly think it's good as it is right now with the news changes, but let's see what the staff will say about it. 

 

About stun of KS @Merenda , maybe they should change LS in BC or during SW only? I dont know.... I already shared my idea about that skills in another post. 

Clem. 

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If they removed AoE skills, I think it would be fair to remove stuns as well. 

 

Obviously, only if that test becomes something definitive.

[kamuynoturno 291]

Shame, Played like Never And lost as Always, Cant win event with 10001 changes made to help

[ripr3k 27]

kKkkkkkKkkkKKkkkkKkkkk

[gabrieljf17 7]

  On 11/8/2020 at 5:10 PM, nickloco2 said:

Congratz sw FULL STUN n 20min finished. Kkk

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Great.  For those who do nothing, have no family, no commitment and really bad.

[Sho 37]

  On 11/8/2020 at 3:30 PM, kamuynoturno said:

SW is becoming a shame, they even took the pvp out of the game...... 

Worst System ever created

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We are waiting for you to create one.

[SmokingSnake 75]

Always the same people, complaining about every single change, even if it is experimental, believing there is a conspiracy theory to favor the "other side". I just see laziness from the winning alliance from KOM/SN/MIB, not willing to adapt to new experiences, just wishing for things to stay the same forever and dont threaten your chances of win. 

 

Wartale is a small game, there isn't a test server that has the ammount of people necessary to test something of this size, like removing AoE from SW, this is a type of test that has to be done in the live server, and Senpai itself said it was just an experiment, and he was excited about it. Stop complaining about absolutely everything, just give a critical feedback, either the change is good, and why its good, or its bad, and why its bad, or, give it suggestions for improve.

 

 

[DarkLink64 921]

The history has told us:

Every change made by the Wartale Staff that was heavily criticized by SoNois and KOM, was a good change. Every. Single. One. And all changes were related to fixing common exploits, bug abuse or even cheating.

Triple SiegeWar Crown - SN (BH) and KOM were against it.
Implementation of anti bot/macro/autoclick - SN and KOM were against it.
Removal of SecretLab HS - SN and KOM were against it.
Loot loto - SN, KOM and all minor alliances to both clans were against it.
Nerfing on AutoMS in SS - SN and KOM were against.
Member switching before Siege War penalty - SN and KOM were against.
Party-only exclusive regen on Priestess Regeneration Field - SN and KOM were against.
Removal of PvP champion to counter PVP Boosting - SN and KOM were against.
Peforation halved damage from Archer (just like many other AoE skills) - SN and KOM were against.
Diastrophism halved damage from Magician (just like many other AoE skills) - SN and KOM were against.
Proper balance on Orb's Defense - SN and KOM were against.
Weekly tweaks to find good balance on PvP Ratios - SN and KOM were against



So, if there is any experiment done on the game where just SoNois and KOM talks crap about, it DEFINITELY means the experiment was good, done on the right direction.

So, @Wartale, @Senpai and @Support, keep on with experimental changes. If any member of said clan keep hating, offending or being toxic against the new changes, just ignore and keep going on.

Remember, we're deep down on the scary path!

It's easy to ignore all babling done by SoNois and KoM members, because they do not play Wartale for fun. They play Wartale to practice Real Money Trading, selling exp service, items and accounts for real BRL money. It's not like SN and KOM on it's majority has any kind of healthy relevance to the server.


 

Edited November 8, 2020 by DarkLink64

[Funck 4]

Boring war. Only stun and players hit tower like bot ???

[DarkLink64 921]

  On 11/8/2020 at 6:46 PM, Funck said:

Boring war. Only stun and players hit tower like bot ???

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Easy to solve. Disable AoE stun too:

Lightning Sword
Roar
Shield Strike
Soul Shock
 

[BigFoot 375]

  On 11/8/2020 at 5:47 PM, Clem said:

About stun of KS @Merenda , maybe they should change LS in BC or during SW only? I dont know.... I already shared my idea about that skills in another post. 

 

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If stun of KS bother people too much in sw, i think we can change it to area slow ( i mean really slow) and add pull effect. It will be fun ?. Please don’t remove stun, ppl will ask for remove slow/ice of other classes to revenge.

[SmokingSnake 75]

  On 11/8/2020 at 7:01 PM, BigFoot said:

If stun of KS bother people too much in sw, i think we can change it to area slow ( i mean really slow) and add pull effect. It will be fun ?. Please don’t remove stun, ppl will ask for remove slow/ice of other classes to revenge.

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Thats playe a nice idea. Instead of stunning, Lightning Sword could slow people down while the skill is active. I like this.

The pull effect I think is too much tbh.

[BigFoot 375]

  On 11/8/2020 at 7:08 PM, SmokingSnake said:

Thats playe a nice idea. Instead of stunning, Lightning Sword could slow people down while the skill is active. I like this.

The pull effect I think is too much tbh.

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Yeah, i think it must add the pull effect or make it really really slow (maybe double than normal slow) or atleast add damage to LS because KS has to stay still while performing the skill. He must has something to defense while staying still.

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[SmokingSnake 75]

  On 11/8/2020 at 7:27 PM, BigFoot said:

Yeah, i think it must add the pull effect or make it really really slow (maybe double than normal slow) or atleast add damage to LS because KS has to stay still while performing the skill. He must has something to defense while staying still.

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I disagree. Since Lightning Sword is a continuos skill, KS should be vulnerable while using it, this helps the skill not lasting forever. And KS is pretty tanky, it can withstand over 5s of skill easily.

i think the same slow down as MG distortion would be nice.

[kamuynoturno 291]

  On 11/8/2020 at 6:41 PM, DarkLink64 said:

The history has told us:

Every change made by the Wartale Staff that was heavily criticized by SoNois and KOM, was a good change. Every. Single. One. And all changes were related to fixing common exploits, bug abuse or even cheating.

Triple SiegeWar Crown - SN (BH) and KOM were against it.
Implementation of anti bot/macro/autoclick - SN and KOM were against it.
Removal of SecretLab HS - SN and KOM were against it.
Loot loto - SN, KOM and all minor alliances to both clans were against it.
Nerfing on AutoMS in SS - SN and KOM were against.
Member switching before Siege War penalty - SN and KOM were against.
Party-only exclusive regen on Priestess Regeneration Field - SN and KOM were against.
Removal of PvP champion to counter PVP Boosting - SN and KOM were against.
Peforation halved damage from Archer (just like many other AoE skills) - SN and KOM were against.
Diastrophism halved damage from Magician (just like many other AoE skills) - SN and KOM were against.
Proper balance on Orb's Defense - SN and KOM were against.
Weekly tweaks to find good balance on PvP Ratios - SN and KOM were against



So, if there is any experiment done on the game where just SoNois and KOM talks crap about, it DEFINITELY means the experiment was good, done on the right direction.

So, @Wartale, @Senpai and @Support, keep on with experimental changes. If any member of said clan keep hating, offending or being toxic against the new changes, just ignore and keep going on.

Remember, we're deep down on the scary path!

It's easy to ignore all babling done by SoNois and KoM members, because they do not play Wartale for fun. They play Wartale to practice Real Money Trading, selling exp service, items and accounts for real BRL money. It's not like SN and KOM on it's majority has any kind of healthy relevance to the server.


 

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Put it in difficult because it is very easy to beat u,  WEAK

Changes Are made and failed, Do u know What Never Changes? SN AWAYS FIRST

 

 

 

[Merenda 769]

  On 11/8/2020 at 6:41 PM, DarkLink64 said:

The history has told us:

Every change made by the Wartale Staff that was heavily criticized by SoNois and KOM, was a good change. Every. Single. One. And all changes were related to fixing common exploits, bug abuse or even cheating.

Triple SiegeWar Crown - SN (BH) and KOM were against it.
Implementation of anti bot/macro/autoclick - SN and KOM were against it.
Removal of SecretLab HS - SN and KOM were against it.
Loot loto - SN, KOM and all minor alliances to both clans were against it.
Nerfing on AutoMS in SS - SN and KOM were against.
Member switching before Siege War penalty - SN and KOM were against.
Party-only exclusive regen on Priestess Regeneration Field - SN and KOM were against.
Removal of PvP champion to counter PVP Boosting - SN and KOM were against.
Peforation halved damage from Archer (just like many other AoE skills) - SN and KOM were against.
Diastrophism halved damage from Magician (just like many other AoE skills) - SN and KOM were against.
Proper balance on Orb's Defense - SN and KOM were against.
Weekly tweaks to find good balance on PvP Ratios - SN and KOM were against



So, if there is any experiment done on the game where just SoNois and KOM talks crap about, it DEFINITELY means the experiment was good, done on the right direction.

So, @Wartale, @Senpai and @Support, keep on with experimental changes. If any member of said clan keep hating, offending or being toxic against the new changes, just ignore and keep going on.

Remember, we're deep down on the scary path!

It's easy to ignore all babling done by SoNois and KoM members, because they do not play Wartale for fun. They play Wartale to practice Real Money Trading, selling exp service, items and accounts for real BRL money. It's not like SN and KOM on it's majority has any kind of healthy relevance to the server.


 

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@Molaxx Watch and learn, you will never get Rank 1 if you don't work like this little boy.

[Gu 168]

maybe few clans need   change his name:  

KingOfCry 

SoCry 

 

LosLossers 

Warlosers  

 

 

all same players on sn/kom crying on forum and talking about lb/ws be losers hahaha 

never givea good suggestion,  look this topic .. players crying before the test ? this only show how a little babe few players are...  

 

 

 

The SW was great without aoe ,  mele accounts can hit tower/vahala ,  and should remove stun?idk , but should add more HP  in vahala/tower  maybe 30%,  no make sense only aoe accounts or rangers can hit tower/vahala because of all Aoe skill,  it's a great patch about SW. 

 

 

and guys stop say: staf helping LB/WS , blábláblá , buábuábuá ? if they really wanted help us like all you cry on forum/game/whatsapp gruop , maybe we should to win all weekend,  not lose hahaha. 

[ripr3k 27]

the cry s free for all peoples

[TigerShark22 492]

Has anyone take a look at ata/FS/ Ass ( I might have missed someone). You complain on an aoe stun, 1 spesificly , that it's performer is standing still and in order to make it stop, any ranged class has to shoot him to get him killed/, force him to stop and pot help his friends advance ( and there are 5 of them, not counting auto mech ofc ).

 

Fs Ass ata can aoe stun, some even have longer stun duraction , and they cast the skill in 1 moment, so here is again- crying when it comes to ks( when literally it doesn't stand out in either scores/ k/d ratio at the pvp ranking) , and it seems many cry when it comes to skill too ( instead of attacking groups blindly, you have to point at the ks with a 1v1 skill and the faster u do it, the better, can be a roleplay for some ranged people, locating stunners and shooting em).

 

Ah right it's too hard and it's against the afk way.

Edited November 8, 2020 by TigerShark22

[ik3r 949]

easy win;

 

The history has told us:

Losers will always cry and cry

 

Make exp in SS during SW give points to SW ??

 

 

Edited November 8, 2020 by ik3r

[DarkLink64 921]

  On 11/8/2020 at 7:59 PM, Merenda said:

 

@Molaxx Watch and learn, you will never get Rank 1 if you don't work like this little boy.

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[Molaxx 354]

I understand the side of SN/KOM ,and this changeds is really scared for this alliance.  But in another hand they have a hand to change,and the competition. 

 

Today in SW,i never see in one SW one dispute fierce for this since i start in Wartale 4 months ago. I only look one time this,and occurred in the second week with i play,WS win SN because Mr.DAT /Dai Gia and lots of 16x of clan CrazyAsPinoys help WS to conquer this crown. In this time,Mage deal 100% of your damAge. 

 

I remember,1 week after the magician VINICAT,take 400 BP in SW,and all WS goes to crazy in Whattszap gruop,and cry to nerf MG everytime.But of corse,i not agreed,because the power of MAGICIAN can take the crown for WS,and the same power took out the same crown because Mr.Dat and Dai Gia,and all Viet clan,go back to your's originals clans.  

 

So,2 weeks after they never win 1 SW because they dont have any more the power of Magicians in SW to conquer the crown.  Me and plus 3 mages:  CYGNUS/TREMBOLONE/HANTAII cant conquer the crown in the next's weeks,so they go to forum to cry for MG take a biggest nerf if i see in all games of i played .

 

I remember this day in Whattzap group they say : "Você quer continuar perdendo pro ViniCat fazendo 400 BP? Na  próxima vão ser 600,mago é OP e doente" (i cant translate,90% is BR).

 

And i talk to all :  "Guys,eles tem 12 magos lá,mas nós também temos muita força vinda de magos aqui,se vocês chorarem por nerf no fórum,a nossa força vai diminuir" (and of corse,it will !)

 

 

The nexts 5 weeks WS lose every SW for differences so much scared,because in WS clan was so much magic power,and since they call nerf in forum,this power go over.

 

 

 

In my opinion WS is so brainless to talk about nerf in AOE,because they never win with this may. 

 

 

HOWEVER.....  This week SN conquer the Crown for a minimum difference...  And i my impression is : if LB have more 10 peoples in SW today,they will win this SW....

 

 

But now,WS dont have any power magic,only MS / KS/ ASS/ FS.  So,if  go back AOE damage to 100% if always happens,they NEVER WIN. Because this ,they can cry to this change come be permanently.

 

 

Its is my opinion and facts.

 

 

Edited November 8, 2020 by Molaxx