Buff Mules in BC?

[xunahyo 180]

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I've seen one. Ragnarok Online have this kind system. ? Login 3-4 accounts to buff the main account. But it works perfectly balance.

In Wartale. It's ridiculously imbalanced. 

yeah problem is "balance", not "mule buff"

 

10 years of power creep over power creep, what can you say?

 

[-Pain-> 17]

13 hours ago, Senpai said:

Buff Mules in BC, is it a good thing?Vote!

No. 

+1 Remove buff mules in BC

 

[Soijyro 80]

Considering only votes yes or no, till now = 116 votes. 

 

100 = no (86%)

16 = yes (14%)

 

I think there is nothing more to say.... 

 

@Senpai pls, do something like this to ask about last SW (20 min duration). 

 

Ask your comunity about skills in SW (AOE-1vs1), duration time, score system ... Imo last SW was so dissapointing! This is te most cool wartale event. A lot of preparation. ppl buying premiums items, sol forces, scroolls, changing builds, talking about strategy and then .... 20 min. 

[Merenda 694]

It would be a good idea if, starting with the removal of mules, a balancing project involving all classes started, since the meta would change a lot.

 

@Soijyro 

Siege War was supposed to be a fantastic event, unfortunately these changes are only making the quality of the event worse.

 

I don't say in terms of results, because if WS made the same effort from yesterday, but in the fun format of Siege War, we would have lasting and quality events.

 

Disabling skills will never be the path x.x'

 

Now we have a Siege War where no one kills anyone, it makes no sense for me to stand side by side with my rival, hitting a tower in a completely friendly way...

 

Buuuuuut Staff seems to be paying more attention in terms of balance now, this is great, I believe that soon we will have quality events as before, and a much more fun PvP!

 

It is very annoying to have to abandon my friends to rebuff in safe zone. @ >> @

Edited November 16, 2020 by Merenda

[Soijyro 80]

12 minutes ago, Merenda said:

It would be a good idea if, starting with the removal of mules, a balancing project involving all classes started, since the meta would change a lot.

 

@Soijyro 

Siege War was supposed to be a fantastic event, unfortunately these changes are only making the quality of the event worse.

 

I don't say in terms of results, not least because if WS made the same effort yesterday, but in the fun format of Siege War, we would have lasting and quality events.

 

Disabling skills will never be the path x.x'

 

Now we have a Siege War where no one kills anyone, it makes no sense for me to stand side by side with my rival, hitting a tower in a completely friendly way...

 

Buuuuuut Staff seems to be paying more attention in terms of balance now, this is great, I believe that soon we will have quality events as before, and a much more fun PvP!

 

It is very annoying to have to abandon my friends to rebuff in safe zone. @ >> @

I agree with you with almost all that u said. 

 

I just have a different opinion on class balancing. I don't think this is necessary or fun! Some classes should be better in 1x1 combat, like PS and FS, others better when there are a large number of people and they can use the advantages of speed and invisibility, like AS / ASS / ATA for example, others can be good in all possibilities with great defensive and offensive resources like KS / MS and others have skills that work as support / debuff or as auxiliaries for specialist classes like PRS / MGS. The classes are, in my opinion, balanced (or close to be), they are just not equal and many people here ask for balance believing that all classes must have equal conditions in pvp/pve. I don't think it should be this way.

 

A priest should never kill like a PS and a PS should never be able to buff or support anyone. And so on...

Edited November 16, 2020 by Soijyro

[Mayreen 950]

7 minutes ago, Soijyro said:

I agree with you with almost all that u said. 

 

I just have a different opinion on class balancing. I don't think this is necessary or fun! Some classes should be better in 1x1 combat, like PS and FS, others better when there are a large number of people and they can use the advantages of speed and invisibility, like AS / ASS / ATA for example, others can be good in all possibilities with great defensive and offensive resources like KS / MS and others have skills that work as support / debuff or as auxiliaries for specialist classes like PRS / MGS. The classes are, in my opinion, balanced (or close to be), they are just not equal and many people here ask for balance believing that all classes must have equal conditions in pvp/pve. I don't think it should be this way.

 

A priest should never kill like a PS and a PS should never be able to buff or support anyone. And so on...

 

I totally agree with you ??

[Molaxx 354]

1 hour ago, Soijyro said:

I agree with you with almost all that u said. 

 

I just have a different opinion on class balancing. I don't think this is necessary or fun! Some classes should be better in 1x1 combat, like PS and FS, others better when there are a large number of people and they can use the advantages of speed and invisibility, like AS / ASS / ATA for example, others can be good in all possibilities with great defensive and offensive resources like KS / MS and others have skills that work as support / debuff or as auxiliaries for specialist classes like PRS / MGS. The classes are, in my opinion, balanced (or close to be), they are just not equal and many people here ask for balance believing that all classes must have equal conditions in pvp/pve. I don't think it should be this way.

 

A priest should never kill like a PS and a PS should never be able to buff or support anyone. And so on...

 

 

I dont agreed for you. Mgs is the most powerfull damage in one MMORPG... Your ideia is transform one killer in support for distortion and mule of vitality ???   No my friend i´m so sorry,its will not happen. 

 

Its a insane and brainless think. I agreed with you in the points of PS/FS ,etc... etc.... But Mage is a support for you ??? Only because he have 1 skill in one set of 20 skills he is support for you ?????

 

 

Sorry,but the community dont need this opinion. All class need kill very well,and its terrible go to BC to only use distortion and run... 

 

damn it.

[Soijyro 80]

19 minutes ago, Molaxx said:

 

Mgs is the most powerfull damage in one MMORPG...

 

Sorry,but the community dont need this opinion. 

 

 

"MGS is the most powerful..."  Cause u think it should be? Who said it? Where is te wartale manual ? Can i read  this "amazing manual" (that you have but i don't) where is written that MG is the most powerfull "anything" in a MMORPG? 

 

"Comunnity don't need this opinion". And who are you? The leader of the community? Staff member? Wartale owner? God? 

 

You said it. Its not an universal true. And like i said to DL64, cause you are MG u have personal interest in this case. Another spoiled child who react when things are not the way u think it should be.

 

Im playing with Prs and As in this moment and i don't think As should be better than a FS in a 1x1 condition. I dont think prs should be better than PS and As too...if, in a way, I can't beat an FS in a 1x1 condition with an AS, in a war condition with many players, I can use it to attack from a distance, with a high volume of damage, move fast in a large area (like inside the castle) and I have advantages that the melees do not have (including PVE). MG is the best class in PVE, high volume of damage, amazing tanker, can grant buffs to himself and others, can emit high area damage in  SW (and therefore I do not agree with the reduction of AOE in SW, because harms magic characters), can do large volumes of damage in the towers, it's incredible for Bellatra as you can see here, the top 4 in the ranking are Mages (7 out of the top 10 are MG):

 

https://wartale.com/top-ranking/  (bellatra player ranking)

 

What more do you want for Mages? Amazing killer for PVP too? 

 

Well if staff decides that MG should be better on PVP, great, i will not complain. But if Mages starts to kill like a hell in PVP, i think Fighters and Pikemans should start to tank like Gods in PVE/PVP too ...  Do you see the problem?  Lets make tanker rangers with "flame wave skills" to let them leader Bellatra? 

 

If the balance follows the individual desires of each player, then the balance should make all classes the same and this, in addition to not making sense, is impossible, because the skills framework of the classes promote different characteristics to each of them and advantages and disadvantages that they cannot be removed with what you call "balancing". What happens is that if you change something here, you unbalance something there, if you change something there, you unbalance something here and so on.

Today we have some classes that are better in PVP (1x1), others that are better in pvp (War), others that can be good on both, but not the best, Others that are better on bellatra, others that are better to PVE, a class that can be used for tank and other that can be used to support killers, several different classes that make you have to think about what is the best formation of a PT for a given event (DIQ, Shadow Sanc, PVP, Bellatra, SW ...) all require different formations because the objectives and the way to achieve them are differents.

 

 

[Molaxx 354]

13 minutes ago, Soijyro said:

"MGS is the most powerful..."  Cause u think it should be? Who said it? Where is te wartale manual ? Can i read  this "amazing manual" (that you have but i don't) where is written that MG is the most powerfull "anything" in a MMORPG? 

 

"Comunnity don't need this opinion". And who are you? The leader of the community? Staff member? Wartale owner? God? 

 

You said it. Its not an universal true. And like i said to DL64, cause you are MG u have personal interest in this case. Another spoiled child who react when things are not the way u think it should be.

 

Im playing with Prs and As in this moment and i don't think As should be better than a FS in a 1x1 condition. I dont think prs should be better than PS and As too...if, in a way, I can't beat an FS in a 1x1 condition with an AS, in a war condition with many players, I can use it to attack from a distance, with a high volume of damage, move fast in a large area (like inside the castle) and I have advantages that the melees do not have (including PVE). MG is the best class in PVE, high volume of damage, amazing tanker, can grant buffs to himself and others, can emit high area damage in  SW (and therefore I do not agree with the reduction of AOE in SW, because harms magic characters), can do large volumes of damage in the towers, it's incredible for Bellatra as you can see here, the top 4 in the ranking are Mages (7 out of the top 10 are MG):

 

https://wartale.com/top-ranking/  (bellatra player ranking)

 

What more do you want for Mages? Amazing killer for PVP too? 

 

Well if staff decides that MG should be better on PVP, great, i will not complain. But if Mages starts to kill like a hell in PVP, i think Fighters and Pikemans should start to tank like Gods in PVE/PVP too ...  Do you see the problem?  Lets make tanker rangers with "flame wave skills" to let them leader Bellatra? 

 

If the balance follows the individual desires of each player, then the balance should make all classes the same and this, in addition to not making sense, is impossible, because the skills framework of the classes promote different characteristics to each of them and advantages and disadvantages that they cannot be removed with what you call "balancing". What happens is that if you change something here, you unbalance something there, if you change something there, you unbalance something here and so on.

Today we have some classes that are better in PVP (1x1), others that are better in pvp (War), others that can be good on both, but not the best, Others that are better on bellatra, others that are better to PVE, a class that can be used for tank and other that can be used to support killers, several different classes that make you have to think about what is the best formation of a PT for a given event (DIQ, Shadow Sanc, PVP, Bellatra, SW ...) all require different formations because the objectives and the way to achieve them are differents.

 

 

 

 

 

First: I'm so sorry if my comment seemed arrongant.It's not my intencion,so i'm sorry.

 

Second,i ask to you never liken me with DL64,i hate this fat and brainless guy. And i never had been the same with this guy. 

 

 

So,you ask about MG and: 

 

""MGS is the most powerful..."  Cause u think it should be? Who said it? Where is te wartale manual ?" 

 

Yes,have in one manual,the manual of RPG. You can found this book in internet our in real life in one library,its one classic book,and all RPG'S/MMORPG'S branch in this manual,for exemple : League of Legends,WOW,DOTA,Priston,Dofus,Grand Chase,Elsword,Lunia,MU Online,Patch of Exile, etc ,etc .etc. 

 

All games in the world follow the manual of RPG and in this manual in ALL GAMES,one MAGICIAN is the most powerfull damage exist in one game,its one rule. The pillar/collumn of the all RPG'S in the history. 

 

 

You think Gandalf to King of Rings dont deal damage???  Our Sauron(Magic darkness),dont deal damage??? Our maybe Galladriel dont deal damage??   Its only to look. All this exemples is derivative of this book .

 

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MG u have personal interest in this case.

 

Yes i do!  But,is not only personal interest in this case,is searching for justice .

 

 

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Today we have some classes that are better in PVP (1x1), others that are better in pvp (War), others that can be good on both, but not the best, Others that are better on bellatra, others that are better to PVE, a class that can be used for tank and other that can be used to support killers, several different classes that make you have to think about what is the best formation of a PT for a given event (DIQ, Shadow Sanc, PVP, Bellatra, SW ...) all require different formations because the objectives and the way to achieve them are differents.

 

 

But today,FS/PS can deal lots of damge in AOE. If dont know,PS can take 2.7kk in Round 3 on SOD. And MG lvl 160 only 2.4/2.5 ... So PS is more strong them MG at ROUND 3. FS crit in AOE... etc etc etc.... 

 

Ass deal lot's of damage in AOE,and have a INCREDIBLE HIT-N-RUN in PVP... sometimes one ASS deal 6.000 DMG in PVP,is scared! 

 

As kill so fast in PVE,and she is one of the 4º class ranger in the game,and she kill INSANE IN PVP. As can deal 16.000 of damage in 8 seconds with Phoenix Shot in PVP... 

 

 

MS is the most powerfull class in UP ,and he is brainless in PVP,and he can deal 4.000 dmg in one hit in PVP,and tanks SO MUCH .

 

 

KS ,is the best melee in PVE,and have the same damage them MG if you use LS. And now is the most powerfull class in PVP,and he can tank 10/15 players in PVP,using full buff +full vit,and he can kill although use vitality...

 

 

 

So if you look the game overwall,you can see lots of class brainless here. 

 

 

MG now dont tank ANY! One PS lvl 140 do HK i'm my MG lvl 155 8.414 defense and 340 of ABS....  So mg dont tank very well. Is a fragile char. If you can tank 1 player in pvp you need use 450+ of vitality.  

 

Now,MG dont deal DMG in AOE in SW if lat's 6 weeks our maybe 8 weeks of changed's ... MG now dont deal DMG in AOE,dont pick BPS,and is useless.

 

 

 

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u have personal interest

 

 

MG is useless dude.I only search for justice.  He need a more powerfull damage in one game of RPG.All games MG is a GOD in DMG,but dont tank so much. My MG have 6xx of healt...  one PS lvl 130 can HK my MG... you think it's balancing ? Justice??

 

 

 

Change your concept's and look the reality of all peoples.

[vicent 50]

40 minutes ago, Soijyro said:

"MGS is the most powerful..."  Cause u think it should be? Who said it? Where is te wartale manual ? Can i read  this "amazing manual" (that you have but i don't) where is written that MG is the most powerfull "anything" in a MMORPG? 

 

"Comunnity don't need this opinion". And who are you? The leader of the community? Staff member? Wartale owner? God? 

 

You said it. Its not an universal true. And like i said to DL64, cause you are MG u have personal interest in this case. Another spoiled child who react when things are not the way u think it should be.

 

Im playing with Prs and As in this moment and i don't think As should be better than a FS in a 1x1 condition. I dont think prs should be better than PS and As too...if, in a way, I can't beat an FS in a 1x1 condition with an AS, in a war condition with many players, I can use it to attack from a distance, with a high volume of damage, move fast in a large area (like inside the castle) and I have advantages that the melees do not have (including PVE). MG is the best class in PVE, high volume of damage, amazing tanker, can grant buffs to himself and others, can emit high area damage in  SW (and therefore I do not agree with the reduction of AOE in SW, because harms magic characters), can do large volumes of damage in the towers, it's incredible for Bellatra as you can see here, the top 4 in the ranking are Mages (7 out of the top 10 are MG):

 

https://wartale.com/top-ranking/  (bellatra player ranking)

 

What more do you want for Mages? Amazing killer for PVP too? 

 

Well if staff decides that MG should be better on PVP, great, i will not complain. But if Mages starts to kill like a hell in PVP, i think Fighters and Pikemans should start to tank like Gods in PVE/PVP too ...  Do you see the problem?  Lets make tanker rangers with "flame wave skills" to let them leader Bellatra? 

 

If the balance follows the individual desires of each player, then the balance should make all classes the same and this, in addition to not making sense, is impossible, because the skills framework of the classes promote different characteristics to each of them and advantages and disadvantages that they cannot be removed with what you call "balancing". What happens is that if you change something here, you unbalance something there, if you change something there, you unbalance something here and so on.

Today we have some classes that are better in PVP (1x1), others that are better in pvp (War), others that can be good on both, but not the best, Others that are better on bellatra, others that are better to PVE, a class that can be used for tank and other that can be used to support killers, several different classes that make you have to think about what is the best formation of a PT for a given event (DIQ, Shadow Sanc, PVP, Bellatra, SW ...) all require different formations because the objectives and the way to achieve them are differents.

 

 

don't waste your time with this incel, arguing with people like him is just like playing chess against a pigeon

he doesn't even know basic english, then why do u think he would understand your argument instead of believing in the fantastic world he has inside his incel mind?

 

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pigeon_chess

Edited November 16, 2020 by vicent

[Conker 25]

18 hours ago, Senpai said:

Buff Mules in BC, is it a good thing?Vote!

Before doing any change specifically for Bless Castle, I think all PARTY buffs should work the same. Since the release of Shaman and Assassin, we have such buffs working in different ways:

Archer's Force of Nature and Atalanta's Triumph of Valhalla/Hall of Valhalla: You cast it and all nearby players, even if they are not in your party, gets that buff and they stay buffed even if they walk away from caster.
Knight's Holy Valor: You cast it and only party members in a 210 area gets that buff, and they stay buffed even if they walk away from caster.
Priestess's Divine Force: You cast it and all party members within XP range gets that buff, you leave party and they stay buffed even if they walk away from caster.
Assassin's Alas and Shaman's Advent Migal/Advent Midranda: You cast it and it works like an aura for party members, they must remain in a certain area near the caster to keep the buff on them, being an area of 380 for Assassin and 220 for Shaman.

 

My suggestion is to make all those buffs work the same as Assassin and Shaman's auras. 
This way you make those characters more useful for party, forcing players to have more diversity on parties if they want to have such buffs, not simply leaving them as buff mules and keeping on party only the highest DPS classes.

As some already suggested, you'll need a different combination of party members to otimize your damage, so it encourages to play other classes than Knight for PvP and Mech for Exping, for example. Instead of having tanker/buffer mules, you'll need active players playing their role, as it's supposed to be in a MMORPG.

As for Bless Castle, adding to Party Aura format, Safe Zone could work the same as any Town, having all skills shut off and only able to cast skills in battle zone.

[Soijyro 80]

8 hours ago, Molaxx said:

 

 

 

First: I'm so sorry if my comment seemed arrongant.It's not my intencion,so i'm sorry.

 

Second,i ask to you never liken me with DL64,i hate this fat and brainless guy. And i never had been the same with this guy. 

 

 

So,you ask about MG and: 

 

""MGS is the most powerful..."  Cause u think it should be? Who said it? Where is te wartale manual ?" 

 

Yes,have in one manual,the manual of RPG. You can found this book in internet our in real life in one library,its one classic book,and all RPG'S/MMORPG'S branch in this manual,for exemple : League of Legends,WOW,DOTA,Priston,Dofus,Grand Chase,Elsword,Lunia,MU Online,Patch of Exile, etc ,etc .etc. 

 

All games in the world follow the manual of RPG and in this manual in ALL GAMES,one MAGICIAN is the most powerfull damage exist in one game,its one rule. The pillar/collumn of the all RPG'S in the history. 

 

 

You think Gandalf to King of Rings dont deal damage???  Our Sauron(Magic darkness),dont deal damage??? Our maybe Galladriel dont deal damage??   Its only to look. All this exemples is derivative of this book .

 

 

Yes i do!  But,is not only personal interest in this case,is searching for justice .

 

 

 

 

But today,FS/PS can deal lots of damge in AOE. If dont know,PS can take 2.7kk in Round 3 on SOD. And MG lvl 160 only 2.4/2.5 ... So PS is more strong them MG at ROUND 3. FS crit in AOE... etc etc etc.... 

 

Ass deal lot's of damage in AOE,and have a INCREDIBLE HIT-N-RUN in PVP... sometimes one ASS deal 6.000 DMG in PVP,is scared! 

 

As kill so fast in PVE,and she is one of the 4º class ranger in the game,and she kill INSANE IN PVP. As can deal 16.000 of damage in 8 seconds with Phoenix Shot in PVP... 

 

 

MS is the most powerfull class in UP ,and he is brainless in PVP,and he can deal 4.000 dmg in one hit in PVP,and tanks SO MUCH .

 

 

KS ,is the best melee in PVE,and have the same damage them MG if you use LS. And now is the most powerfull class in PVP,and he can tank 10/15 players in PVP,using full buff +full vit,and he can kill although use vitality...

 

 

 

So if you look the game overwall,you can see lots of class brainless here. 

 

 

MG now dont tank ANY! One PS lvl 140 do HK i'm my MG lvl 155 8.414 defense and 340 of ABS....  So mg dont tank very well. Is a fragile char. If you can tank 1 player in pvp you need use 450+ of vitality.  

 

Now,MG dont deal DMG in AOE in SW if lat's 6 weeks our maybe 8 weeks of changed's ... MG now dont deal DMG in AOE,dont pick BPS,and is useless.

 

 

 

 

 

MG is useless dude.I only search for justice.  He need a more powerfull damage in one game of RPG.All games MG is a GOD in DMG,but dont tank so much. My MG have 6xx of healt...  one PS lvl 130 can HK my MG... you think it's balancing ? Justice??

 

 

 

Change your concept's and look the reality of all peoples.

Ok friend!

 

Can you show the link of this "manual"? It can be interesting ... I never heard about something like this! 

 

I don't think MG is useless ... "useless" is a strong word to refer such an amazing class! And if MG don't tank a PS 140, don't feel frustrated cause almost classes can't tank a PS in pvp. My As 15x can be hit killed for a PS 13x ... And im ok with it, cause i can also hit kill PS 16x... Its a metter of oportunity or condition. 

 

IMO ASS/FS/PS should be "scary" as you said ... This what they were made for ... They are priority PVP classes! 

 

Wartale is kind of diferent in this question ... Cause i know u are telling something that we got used... Mages used to be the most OP classes in others MMORP that i played, but it doesn't mean that will be same here. As i said ... If Wartale guys decide to make a new OP MG to follow this kind of "RPG culture" i will not complain ... I just think this stuff of balance is a Utopia that lives in some players mind and its not something that should be chased. 

 

I agree that Rangers need to be improve in their capabilities on PVE, Ass/ps/fs too. Also MG could be better in PVP. There are some adjustment that could be done ... "balance" is not necessary! 

 

 

Updating the result till now ...

 

Considering only votes yes/no.

 

122 votes no = 89%

16 votes yes = 11%

Edited November 17, 2020 by Soijyro

[Jasper 62]

Its just facking sad to see everytime someone dies they take the time to switch between 450 mules to give them buffs and if thats not all, they think that they are actually good... please remove the mule buffs and show your raw talent in pvp.

[xunahyo 180]

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Mages used to be the most OP classes in others MMORP that i played, but it doesn't mean that will be same here

problem is MG also sucks in PvE.. go have a tour SS

 

SS sucks, SL also sucks, what can MG do PvE?

 

PvP sucks, PvE sucks, only Flamewave forever in DiQ or getting stuck in Iron Core solo cry

 

I main MG, so stop telling me MG is okay in Wartale. There was a time I chose to forever farm CT3 because SL and SS sucks for MG, now CT3 is gone too. 

 

k enough crying. 

Enjoy Wartale!

[jingles3 1]

On 11/16/2020 at 2:26 PM, Conker said:

Before doing any change specifically for Bless Castle, I think all PARTY buffs should work the same. Since the release of Shaman and Assassin, we have such buffs working in different ways:

Archer's Force of Nature and Atalanta's Triumph of Valhalla/Hall of Valhalla: You cast it and all nearby players, even if they are not in your party, gets that buff and they stay buffed even if they walk away from caster.
Knight's Holy Valor: You cast it and only party members in a 210 area gets that buff, and they stay buffed even if they walk away from caster.
Priestess's Divine Force: You cast it and all party members within XP range gets that buff, you leave party and they stay buffed even if they walk away from caster.
Assassin's Alas and Shaman's Advent Migal/Advent Midranda: You cast it and it works like an aura for party members, they must remain in a certain area near the caster to keep the buff on them, being an area of 380 for Assassin and 220 for Shaman.

 

My suggestion is to make all those buffs work the same as Assassin and Shaman's auras. 
This way you make those characters more useful for party, forcing players to have more diversity on parties if they want to have such buffs, not simply leaving them as buff mules and keeping on party only the highest DPS classes.

As some already suggested, you'll need a different combination of party members to otimize your damage, so it encourages to play other classes than Knight for PvP and Mech for Exping, for example. Instead of having tanker/buffer mules, you'll need active players playing their role, as it's supposed to be in a MMORPG.

As for Bless Castle, adding to Party Aura format, Safe Zone could work the same as any Town, having all skills shut off and only able to cast skills in battle zone.

 

+1

[Soijyro 80]

On 11/17/2020 at 9:02 AM, xunahyo said:

problem is MG also sucks in PvE.. go have a tour SS

 

SS sucks, SL also sucks, what can MG do PvE?

 

PvP sucks, PvE sucks, only Flamewave forever in DiQ or getting stuck in Iron Core solo cry

 

I main MG, so stop telling me MG is okay in Wartale. There was a time I chose to forever farm CT3 because SL and SS sucks for MG, now CT3 is gone too. 

 

k enough crying. 

Enjoy Wartale!

I was main MG 155 till 157 too... I do not agree. 

 

MG is the best on PVE. With staff 142 it is the #1 fast shadow sanc killer. To play solo, it is the most confortable class. 

 

Ppl here are funny... A lot of "experts"...

 

"Stop telling me..." 

 

Well.. I didn't tell you anything. I wasn't even talking to you.

 

 

 

Edited November 20, 2020 by Soijyro

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Just now, Soijyro said:

I was main MG 155 till 157 too... I do not agree. 

 

MG is the best on PVE. With staff 142 it is the #1 fast shadow sanc killer. To play solo, it is the most confortable class. 

 

Ppl here are funny... A lot of "specialists"...

finally a mage player on forum who acknowledge how powerful he is atm, every week there's a pointless and somehow useless post with unrealistic DPS buffs for mage [ meteorite like press deity, death ray doing more damage than flame wave] and totally ignoring a mage 130 doing 54kk sod score.

[disable1000 510]

On 11/17/2020 at 8:02 PM, xunahyo said:

problem is MG also sucks in PvE.. go have a tour SS

 

SS sucks, SL also sucks, what can MG do PvE?

 

PvP sucks, PvE sucks, only Flamewave forever in DiQ or getting stuck in Iron Core solo cry

 

I main MG, so stop telling me MG is okay in Wartale. There was a time I chose to forever farm CT3 because SL and SS sucks for MG, now CT3 is gone too. 

 

k enough crying. 

Enjoy Wartale!

jaja Mage is 2nd best killer in 1 v 1 bro PVE..  Just use Summer and make the fire elemental tank for you.. I dont know why your saying mage sucks in PVE kkkkkkkkkkkkk i can even tank round 7 Sod with summer +24 + 1hand wand + orb ?

Edited November 20, 2020 by disable1000

[Molaxx 354]

2 hours ago, Soijyro said:

I was main MG 155 till 157 too... I do not agree. 

 

MG is the best on PVE. With staff 142 it is the #1 fast shadow sanc killer. To play solo, it is the most confortable class. 

 

Ppl here are funny... A lot of "experts"...

 

"Stop telling me..." 

 

Well.. I didn't tell you anything. I wasn't even talking to you.

 

 

 

 

 

Omg... you sure this ?   For MG is right now the clas number 3 in PVE in SL/SS . But the problem here is not  the PVE,is comparing with MS/AS/ATA  MG is the ONLY RANGER IF DONT KILL ANY THING IN PVP.

 

Its the only problem for MG.  Ms kill so well and tank a lot in BC/SW,AS is INSANE with your 2.000 + dmg per/phoenix and ATA now kill so fast with buffs in patch 5193 in your skill attack,now she deal 105% more DMG in PVP.

 

 

MG now ,dont tank well in PVE,and in PVP he's so weak in this aspec. MG should   be a good class in PVP,but honestly he's the most weak class and more vulnerable in PVP now.  AS tank more them one MG,ATA tank more, etc,but this char have a good dmg.

 

 

So,for me one buff in MG in DR in your dmg to 80 > 135% and your attack rating 40% > 90% resolve this problens. 

[Soijyro 80]

47 minutes ago, Molaxx said:

 

 

Omg... you sure this ?   For MG is right now the clas number 3 in PVE in SL/SS . But the problem here is not  the PVE,is comparing with MS/AS/ATA  MG is the ONLY RANGER IF DONT KILL ANY THING IN PVP.

 

Its the only problem for MG.  Ms kill so well and tank a lot in BC/SW,AS is INSANE with your 2.000 + dmg per/phoenix and ATA now kill so fast with buffs in patch 5193 in your skill attack,now she deal 105% more DMG in PVP.

 

 

MG now ,dont tank well in PVE,and in PVP he's so weak in this aspec. MG should   be a good class in PVP,but honestly he's the most weak class and more vulnerable in PVP now.  AS tank more them one MG,ATA tank more, etc,but this char have a good dmg.

 

 

So,for me one buff in MG in DR in your dmg to 80 > 135% and your attack rating 40% > 90% resolve this problens. 

MG don't tank well in PVE? I do not have time for this anymore ... MG is the best tanker in PVE (who does not renounce to kill). If you and the other guy think it should be better just make a topic asking for improvements. 

[Molaxx 354]

9 minutes ago, Soijyro said:

MG don't tank well in PVE? I do not have time for this anymore ... MG is the best tanker in PVE (who does not renounce to kill). If you and the other guy think it should be better just make a topic asking for improvements. 

 

I fine,for me MG dont need tank,he's only need damage,because one MG is this no ?  Only full damage. I have 8.500 /340 abs and i dont tank any thing in SS whitout  VL.. but its dont metter.

[kamusito 75]

On 11/16/2020 at 11:06 AM, Molaxx said:

 

 

I dont agreed for you. Mgs is the most powerfull damage in one MMORPG... Your ideia is transform one killer in support for distortion and mule of vitality ???   No my friend i´m so sorry,its will not happen. 

 

Its a insane and brainless think. I agreed with you in the points of PS/FS ,etc... etc.... But Mage is a support for you ??? Only because he have 1 skill in one set of 20 skills he is support for you ?????

 

 

Sorry,but the community dont need this opinion. All class need kill very well,and its terrible go to BC to only use distortion and run... 

 

damn it.

lol dude plz stfu, u always with this arrogant comments , you think you own the server? you own the opinions or you owne mages? lol ...think before you type 

[Hyuga Hinata 30]

im waitting 2kc

[xunahyo 180]

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With staff 142 it is the #1 fast shadow sanc killer

wtf. u win bro

[DarkLink64 921]

Haha, I Am SO PROUD to be the player who created the:

Glorious, uncounterable, majestic, complex, ultra advanced, smart, flawless, perfect, rage-indulcing, legendary, winner, oppressive, uber successfull that never knew defeat:

Ainz Ooal Gown Meta in R PT/Wartale, back in 2015/2016.

To this day I laugh so much at the expenses of imensurable aumont of dead bodies on my foot, crying salt tears acompanied by "Full buff" pejorative messages. Priceless.
 

 

Edited November 26, 2020 by DarkLink64