Buff Mules in BC?

[CLA250 147]

  On 11/15/2020 at 11:51 PM, Dinamitze said:

what prevents me from making full tank mules in my pt for buff?

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that is why we are suggesting 1 account per player in BC. similar to HG

[Seog 118]

  On 11/15/2020 at 11:49 PM, CLA250 said:

 

Actually this will change drastically for the better.

 

Buff only works in a party / range is the best because that way ALL CLASSES will be valuable. Instead of 90% of players being Knights. It will force teams to have a different combination of party members. Instead of 6 knights and buff mules its 6 different classes in ONE party now without buff mules.

Buff in party will also promote more players to PVP because in order to take advantage of buffs, you need to be in the same party and work together.

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I understand your concept, I think it's cool, but I come from servers that it was blocked and the diversity was high, there was no ruling class. It all depended more on the player's skill with the game. It was possible to kill with any class as long as you knew how to play. Just understand that not everyone will always have a class in the group that helps a lot, for example the VL of the PRS.

  On 11/15/2020 at 11:55 PM, Dinamitze said:

ok, but a party with prs for vl t5 and one without vl t5 as mentioned by @HollyShot will always be stronger, so we are still in the same situation

 

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Yes, needed to remove everything, without exceptions

Edited November 16, 2020 by Seog

[HollyShot 1,015]

  On 11/15/2020 at 11:59 PM, CLA250 said:

that is why we are suggesting 1 account per player in BC. similar to HG

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unfortunately just like HG ppl would find a way to log, using VM or in another way.

[Mrzero 123]

If u guys cring about mules buff.. so need remove everything include in party and clan.. that all

@Senpai

[imjustyourpapa 83]

Remove buff mules. It's pointless. You cant see the true nature of PVP at the capability of each character
without any buffs from other class

[Merenda 788]

I think it would be a huge work to rebalance everything, since the current balancing seems to have been done with in full buff meta.

[nameless10 208]

  On 11/16/2020 at 12:51 AM, imjustyourpapa said:

Remove buff mules. It's pointless. You cant see the true nature of PVP at the capability of each character
without any buffs from other class

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still can have buffs but from a party. Thats the suggetion, not from a mules doing afk and causes lag ( over crowding esp. SW time )

[geohound 49]

my solution is you get all the buffs once you enter BC with no limited time even if you die, they are still active. And when you leave BC, they are no longer available. Another solution is a new NPC at BC that will give you all the buffs you need, but you have to pay a small amount of gold. No Mules logs, no lag, everyone is happy. ?

[MazaruRPT 193]

Please, no more "log on multiple clients" just to play a game.

 

Give range to buffs (like the one from Shaman) and sell them at NPC; at the same time making people spend Gold since we have a big economy issue right now.

[imjustyourpapa 83]

  On 11/16/2020 at 1:01 AM, nameless10 said:

still can have buffs but from a party. Thats the suggetion, not from a mules doing afk and causes lag ( over crowding esp. SW time )

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My point exactly. " Remove buff mules." they only can gain each buff from other players.

[SmokingSnake 77]

  On 11/15/2020 at 10:57 PM, skj101001000101 said:

Who tf answered yes? Please expose those rats

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I miss clicked it. And there is no way to change it. 

 

I was supposed to vote no ?

[Dookie 489]

  On 11/16/2020 at 12:51 AM, imjustyourpapa said:

Remove buff mules. It's pointless. You cant see the true nature of PVP at the capability of each character
without any buffs from other class

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One thing i can agree of the enemy side.. 

 

  On 11/16/2020 at 12:47 AM, Mrzero said:

If u guys cring about mules buff.. so need remove everything include in party and clan.. that all

@Senpai

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Really? Buff mules is the topic not party/clan buff.. Are your clanmates all mules?

 

 

[nameless10 208]

  On 11/16/2020 at 1:11 AM, imjustyourpapa said:

My point exactly. " Remove buff mules." they only can gain each buff from other players.

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yes definitely. +1

[imjustyourpapa 83]

If @Senpai can do a test run in Siege war. Why not make a test run also for 1 week in PVP? And see the feedbacks from players.
This will help you a lot making decisions about adjustment in your plans.

[- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,767]

  On 11/15/2020 at 11:59 PM, HollyShot said:

Well if the purpose of remove buffs is to avoid forcing ppl out pvp to rebuff everytime i see no reason to keep vl/t5. A partial change would be useless imo.

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indeed, you are right.

When buff mules get removed, priest will need a nerf, it's a fact, she has the highest hp formula of the game, but since everybody have a mule priest to give VL atm, it's barely noticeable how strong priest can be, even with everybody using VL++DF she can fight just fine. My concern is: how that future nerf [ probably on the hp formula and maybe a slight one on vigor ball] will affect the char on PvE? so it's not just, remove buffs and everything will be fine, it will definitely take time to balance everything

 

[HollyShot 1,015]

  On 11/16/2020 at 1:41 AM, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said:

indeed, you are right.

When buff mules get removed, priest will need a nerf, it's a fact, she has the highest hp formula of the game, but since everybody have a mule priest to give VL atm, it's barely noticeable how strong priest can be, even with everybody using VL++DF she can fight just fine. My concern is: how that future nerf [ probably on the hp formula and maybe a slight one on vigor ball] will affect the char on PvE? so it's not just, remove buffs and everything will be fine, it will definitely take time to balance everything

 

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yes like I said in my first post if he just remove buffs would be terrible. It will need a big balance for every class.

btw i think now he is making the changes separately pvp/pve. 

[coelhoN 0]

Mules on bc male it totaly unbalanced because theres some players who logs a full party to buff one character, the solution is simples, make the buffs on bc only work if the party in battlezone and making points just make only accont like hg dont work very well because some player have more tha one computer and log diferent acconts in diferents computers, the mule problem will no be solved

[xunahyo 180]

Still waiting for 2000 coins in my account.

[Dookie 489]

  On 11/15/2020 at 10:41 PM, Senpai said:

Buff Mules in BC, is it a good thing?Vote!

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Is this on the way? Rather than T5?

Project: Gladiator

Developing

Multi-phase revitalization project of existing and new PvP Systems and Skill Balance aspects of the game

[Dior 667]

  On 11/15/2020 at 10:41 PM, Senpai said:

Buff Mules in BC, is it a good thing?Vote!

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BEST TOPIC E V E R 

 

THANK YOU !

[PandanCola 63]

No

[Clem 1,244]

This kind of change don’t need to be voted by players since it ONLY have a positive impact on the game. 
It’s clearly that mules buff is not normal. Do you guys ever see that in a game : Need to log 3-4 account + your main to be able to do a fair PVP ? I don’t think so.

 

After reading the topic and all his answers, I don’t see any valid arguments for those who say yes ? 

 

Also, those mules buff just discouraging some players that just want to have fun to go BC sometime & the active ones.
 

About balance, I agree that buff give an advantage in BC, but if we remove mules buff it will be applied for every players, so it’s fair.

After removing mules buff, if fews class need a little adjustments, they will do it.

 

We need to think about the game play and the future of the game, it can be only nice. I don’t see any good thing to log mules buff to play in BC. 

Clem.

Edited November 16, 2020 by Clem

[imjustyourpapa 83]

  On 11/16/2020 at 9:09 AM, Clem said:

This kind of change don’t need to be voted by players since it ONLY have a positive impact on the game. 
It’s clearly that mules buff is not normal. Do you guys ever see that in a game : Need to log 3-4 account + your main to be able to do a fair PVP ? I don’t think so.

 

After reading the topic and all his answers, I don’t see any valid arguments for those who say yes ? 

 

Also, those mules buff just discouraging some players that just want to have fun to go BC sometime & the active ones.
 

About balance, I agree that buff give an advantage in BC, but if we remove mules buff it will be applied for every players, so it’s fair.

After removing mules buff, if fews class need a little adjustments, they will do it.

 

We need to think about the game play and the future of the game, it can be only nice. I don’t see any good thing to log mules buff to play in BC. 

Clem.

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I've seen one. Ragnarok Online have this kind system. ?  Login 3-4 accounts to buff the main account. But it works perfectly balance.

In Wartale. It's ridiculously imbalanced. 

[-TheBoss- 4]

+1 

 Sorry to say but you all selfish for voting Yes. Damn so naive. ?

[BigFoot 375]

No, because it causes too much lag in bc.

Edited November 16, 2020 by BigFoot