Pets & Crystals in SS?

[xunahyo 180]

I remember:

 

SL 1v1 spawn turn out to be ALL auto-MS pet/crystal tanking, nothing else

 

SL 6-man hellspawn has the best EXP in the game for several years, but turn out to be EXP-service 24hr/7day forever full, even if they give slots to the public only certain classes allowed, 

 

so in the end they made SS no pet/crystal, no hellspawn,

 

also SL mobs high-HP took very long to kill, people are watching movies while playing, 

 

so in the end they made SS very little HP,

 

 

BUT.. SS turn out to be using another char to tank for your main char.. INSTEAD of wearing SHIELDS/ARMORS people are still wearing summer shirt and let another char tank,

 

SO WHAT IS THE POINT? ROFLLMAO

 

 

[Merenda 754]

Sounds good. Many players fail to know/play in Shadow Sanctuary simply because they don't have a tanker character. I believe that casual players also deserve to enjoy this beautiful and exclusive map in a worthy way.

 

+1

 

@xunahyo This is the meta, tryhard players will always find a way to maximize their resources. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, as they are called, "tryhard players".

Edited November 17, 2020 by Merenda

[Clem 1,244]

4 hours ago, thisisrauldo said:

 

again? but u need to pay my nudes first.....

 

 

wow Symaria agreeing with Clem? ? something u dont see everyday

 

4 hours ago, HollyShot said:

he paid me for this :v

a good price btw

Can we keep this kind of informations private please ?

Edited November 17, 2020 by Clem

[guerrero 271]

Almost everyone agrees that is ridiculous to being obligated to play on two accounts to be able to survive on SS. But while this hurt players experience, server profits cause more chars, more equips, more accounts being sold = more coins being spent. 

This is kinda sad and obvious, you can see by the way staff ignores all the topics involving SS and pets/cristals. 

[Clem 1,244]

27 minutes ago, guerrero said:

Almost everyone agrees that is ridiculous to being obligated to play on two accounts to be able to survive on SS. But while this hurt players experience, server profits cause more chars, more equips, more accounts being sold = more coins being spent. 

This is kinda sad and obvious, you can see by the way staff ignores all the topics involving SS and pets/cristals. 

 

I agree that is ridiculous....

About coins it’s just happen the contrary because more & more people got lazy to go to SS so they prefer to up in SL.

 

People just share their tanker (PRS/MS) with others : so one tanker for fews players

 

The coins/gold they spend to equip the prs should be to equip their main. 

A player that got boring to play, at the end he won’t have any more interest to play & won’t enjoy that much the game —> he also won’t donate than expected if he don’t have fun while playing.

[Clem 1,244]

Hello,
So we have reach 100 votes 

95% say yes 

5% say no

Some Players voted & it’s a representative sample of the active players.
The results just show that the huge amount of players want Pets & Crystals to be useful at SS. 

 

May we have the main point of view from the staff about it please ? 
@Wartale @Support @Senpai

 

Thanks ? 

Edited November 18, 2020 by Clem

[xunahyo 180]

the result is almost all (currently 94.5%) want pet/crystal SS,

 

but as people mention it hurts server profit, because it's more profitable IF YOU BUY A CHAR TO TANK THAN BUY A CRYSTAL TO TANK.

 

we all know:

a 144 MS/PRS with some amours = many kcs

a crystal = only a few kk

a pet = FREE

 

so pet/crystals suck for server because no money,

 

so how about this:

Wartale already has Mount System with Mount Equipments, can we make pet/crystal have items too?

 

1. make Pet (MS golem, Ata Chimera, As wolverine etc.) all ABLE to wear AMOURS? like Mount Equipment, so even Pets have the same Amulet / Ring x2 / Shletom / Brace / Gauntlet / Boot / Amour / Shield slots same as Chars, and even a skin slot to add some extra stats, 

this way, Pets will be just as expensive as Chars, and they will be able to tank SS, and also make profit for server 

 

2. make Permanent Crystals: Hopy, Cuepy, Decoy, Bargon, King Hopy etc. same also ABLE to wear AMOURS?

same as 1. they all wear amours like Chars, generate profit for servers,

 

I'm 100% sure this is a win-win for Wartale, Wartale gets money, players can have own Pets/Crystals instead of another dumb Char for tank.

 

 

EDIT: 

also make Pet/Crystal level up and have stat distribute so people can EXP-Service for pet/crystal lmao

 

 

Edited November 19, 2020 by xunahyo

[TigerShark22 491]

No. 

It will help the 144+ get farer, faster than those who are 144- .

 

Also- there are 9/11 classes ( brawler will be able to) who can tank there. The other 2, need spesific items+ build, and will be able to exp there. crying in 2 -3 hits when you have super fast skill's animation ( lets u use pots more frequently cause skill ends fast, helps a lot, can be counted like to die in 3-4 hits in other classes) , tons of evasion+ block + deff ( 2-3 hits in a row barely happen) , if needed put points in vit, and there u go. It just doesnt fit the afk meta. Stop afking, its not a must to have a tank, not happy about it either, but those players keep the game alive by donating to have it, so can't complain, they can have a p2w benefit.

 

 

Also this is a game. You either play a game ,or watch movies or study or work. Not semi afk.

 

Edited December 2, 2020 by TigerShark22

[PrD 30]

+1+1

[JeleStore 372]

On 11/17/2020 at 3:25 PM, Merenda said:

Sounds good. Many players fail to know/play in Shadow Sanctuary simply because they don't have a tanker character. I believe that casual players also deserve to enjoy this beautiful and exclusive map in a worthy way.

 

I cannot survive on my own as an ata. I die so much.

 

A friend lent me a MS for tank. Then that MS became my second worry because he can still die easily even with buff. Because of that, I continued to die a lot.

I gave up on SS. I don't even do SSQ now.

Edited November 21, 2020 by JeleStore

[Obstinate 35]

+111

[hpjv 2]

+1 

[mastellini 474]

not yet?

[jcompher 240]

Tulla, Fallen Angel, and Draxos can tank in SS.... so you do have some crystals that will work there.

[Clem 1,244]

10 minutes ago, jcompher said:

Tulla, Fallen Angel, and Draxos can tank in SS.... so you do have some crystals that will work there.

Crystals don’t got focused there ... so it’s hard to play when you are a ranger for example.

Edited December 15, 2020 by Clem

[jcompher 240]

9 minutes ago, Clem said:

Crystals don’t got focused there ... so it’s hard to play when you are a ranger for example.

 

SS is the highest map in the game.  It's supposed to be challenging.  Also this game can't always be for solo players.  Sometimes you do need a partner.  I'm a PRS and a friend of mine is an Archer.  She dies with one hit in SS but she can kill a lot faster than I can.  So I tank while she kills.  We share the loot.  Our other friend is a Mage.  When I'm not around for SS, she plays with him.  Same deal.  When the 3 of us play... he and I each tank a mob and she stands between us and kills back and forth.  Not every char is meant to be a solo player.  If every player could both tank and kill easy, what would be the point of parties?  Where would the challenge be?

[Clem 1,244]

2 hours ago, jcompher said:

 

SS is the highest map in the game.  It's supposed to be challenging.  Also this game can't always be for solo players.  Sometimes you do need a partner.  I'm a PRS and a friend of mine is an Archer.  She dies with one hit in SS but she can kill a lot faster than I can.  So I tank while she kills.  We share the loot.  Our other friend is a Mage.  When I'm not around for SS, she plays with him.  Same deal.  When the 3 of us play... he and I each tank a mob and she stands between us and kills back and forth.  Not every char is meant to be a solo player.  If every player could both tank and kill easy, what would be the point of parties?  Where would the challenge be?

I understand your own point of view.

But not everyone have a friend to tank for people. 
What’s more, you have to be online at the same moment of your friend, and we all have different time zone, life ... so it’s kinda hard. 

Also, making pets & crystals as it suppose to do it’s still challenging since moobs still give AOE damage.

Each char have his own abilities so not every char are able to kill easy. 
 

You think that prs using regen (afk) is more challenging than using xtals  ? 

Also, it’s a feature of the game, so make it useful would be nice. Atm monsters xtals are useless.

 

Thanks,

Clem.

Edited December 15, 2020 by Clem

[mastellini 474]

1 mounth...

[mario78941456 10]

+1111111111111

 

[Luca 226]

Please look at this with affection.

Many class rangers are having difficulty playing. Not everyone has or even wants the options available to survive in Shadow Sanctuary. They need their pets with function.

[Mayreen 971]

@Senpai @Wartale @Support

Please ?

[mastellini 474]

yeeeees

[Devour 2]

why isn't this just the same like in SL?

[wolf0119 267]

4 minutes ago, Devour said:

¿Por qué no es lo mismo que en SL ?

I once read that the admin said he didn't want rank characters to monopolize the map, as it once was in SL. ?
What he couldn't foresee is that no matter what changes he makes, the players will adapt.

[ainih 29]

On 1/11/2021 at 1:04 PM, Luca said:

Please look at this with affection.

Many class rangers are having difficulty playing. Not everyone has or even wants the options available to survive in Shadow Sanctuary. They need their pets with function.

Then pt with melee as your tank. Like a co op game.