Patch 3207''''

[cuteako316 12]

Wartale,

 

For mech balance

 

200% --> 160% --> 150% to is maximize is perfectly fine

 

But

 

Skill Balance: Mechanic Weapon Mastery to 40% at Level 10

 

50% --> 40% for permanent is a lot

 

Example

 

My Damage is

 

50%

 

800-1000 DMG

 

40%

 

720 - 900

 

With grand smash lvl 10

 

1432 - 1790

 

40%

 

1289 - 1611

 

 

That is like

 

MIN 143 DMG

MAX 179 DMG

 

Gone

 

45% is should be a good balance number

 

why sandurr lowered the maximize and MWM is because mechs can tank more now in SW because of the new abs formula and mech abs fixed. Well that's my opinion though

 

 

I like the 40 spr = 0.7 abs. Very nice idea.. that would make mage tank better now, even after removing the vl hidden abs

[Fuel 0]

Why change split? 110% to 70? Now have 2 skill craps, vg is a normal skill and just split can make a other player lose hp to kill with vg.

[Melocrie 0]

Don't whine so much about pikes, they're OP and you fruiting know it. They will still be good. And if not.. test it out, mess around with your build to get the better of it, liek everybody else.

 

I like all the changes, at least at first sight. Can't wait to see the results ingame.

[cuteako316 12]

Don't whine so much about pikes, they're OP and you fruiting know it. They will still be good. And if not.. test it out, mess around with your build to get the better of it, liek everybody else.

 

I like all the changes, at least at first sight. Can't wait to see the results ingame.

they wine a lot because probably they think they would not own in pvp anymore

same here i really like the changes now. Hope it really works in game

[ADONIS 0]

I play as MS an feel fine for new changes, if the mech become OP nerf its atk i dont care (but dont mess with power build)

[aroma_AGAIN 0]

Wartale I play with pikeman already 8 years!

 

Pikemans are made for more atk then defence !

 

But taking defence mastery with 2 hands u gonna make us weak , cuz we dont have 1 hand weapon .

We are the only one melee w/o 1 hand weapon . If u take off our 2 hands defence we gonna stay more weak than everyone !

[idanqwe 0]

Wartale I play with pikeman already 8 years!

 

Pikemans are made for more atk then defence !

 

But taking defence mastery with 2 hands u gonna make us weak , cuz we dont have 1 hand weapon .

We are the only one melee w/o 1 hand weapon . If u take off our 2 hands defence we gonna stay more weak than everyone !

LOLES

 

Yeah 115 pike 1shotting 125 characters, veri weak.

[zacs 0]

when is the t5 skill of fs will release?

:(

[aroma_AGAIN 0]

Wartale I play with pikeman already 8 years!

 

Pikemans are made for more atk then defence !

 

But taking defence mastery with 2 hands u gonna make us weak , cuz we dont have 1 hand weapon .

We are the only one melee w/o 1 hand weapon . If u take off our 2 hands defence we gonna stay more weak than everyone !

LOLES

 

Yeah 115 pike 1shotting 125 characters, veri weak.

 

Dude im saying ABOUT DEFENCE ! not ATK

 

I agreed with u ! maybe sandurr should nerf CS to dont 1 HIT KO!

Its a little OP the 1 hit KO with pikes!

 

But my point is our DEFENCE! Not our atk .

We only can play with 2 hands weapon doing exp hunt etc! Stop thinking about pvp all the time.

Im talking about play the game !

[cuteako316 12]

Wartale I play with pikeman already 8 years!

 

Pikemans are made for more atk then defence !

 

But taking defence mastery with 2 hands u gonna make us weak , cuz we dont have 1 hand weapon .

We are the only one melee w/o 1 hand weapon . If u take off our 2 hands defence we gonna stay more weak than everyone !

LOLES

 

Yeah 115 pike 1shotting 125 characters, veri weak.

 

Dude im saying ABOUT DEFENCE ! not ATK

 

I agreed with u ! maybe sandurr should nerf CS to dont 1 HIT KO!

Its a little OP the 1 hit KO with pikes!

 

But my point is our DEFENCE! Not our atk .

We only can play with 2 hands weapon doing exp hunt etc! Stop thinking about pvp all the time.

Im talking about play the game !

dude, you already contributed to your mistake as you clearly stated it here. Pikeman are made for attack than defense. So why complain if pikes defense are reduced since you clearly said it yourself

 

[ADONIS 0]

Wartale I play with pikeman already 8 years!

 

Pikemans are made for more atk then defence !

 

But taking defence mastery with 2 hands u gonna make us weak , cuz we dont have 1 hand weapon .

We are the only one melee w/o 1 hand weapon . If u take off our 2 hands defence we gonna stay more weak than everyone !

LOLES

 

Yeah 115 pike 1shotting 125 characters, veri weak.

 

Dude im saying ABOUT DEFENCE ! not ATK

 

I agreed with u ! maybe sandurr should nerf CS to dont 1 HIT KO!

Its a little OP the 1 hit KO with pikes!

 

But my point is our DEFENCE! Not our atk .

We only can play with 2 hands weapon doing exp hunt etc! Stop thinking about pvp all the time.

Im talking about play the game !

Pike is not for tank if its is good for pvp must be bad in something, FS dont have a good AOE but have good HP and good PVP and PS have good evasion and 1hko almost everyone.

[aroma_AGAIN 0]

Wartale I play with pikeman already 8 years!

 

Pikemans are made for more atk then defence !

 

But taking defence mastery with 2 hands u gonna make us weak , cuz we dont have 1 hand weapon .

We are the only one melee w/o 1 hand weapon . If u take off our 2 hands defence we gonna stay more weak than everyone !

LOLES

 

Yeah 115 pike 1shotting 125 characters, veri weak.

 

Dude im saying ABOUT DEFENCE ! not ATK

 

I agreed with u ! maybe sandurr should nerf CS to dont 1 HIT KO!

Its a little OP the 1 hit KO with pikes!

 

But my point is our DEFENCE! Not our atk .

We only can play with 2 hands weapon doing exp hunt etc! Stop thinking about pvp all the time.

Im talking about play the game !

Pike is not for tank if its is good for pvp must be bad in something, FS dont have a good AOE but have good HP and good PVP and PS have good evasion and 1hko almost everyone.

 

 

True pikemans are made for atk not defence !

But this point doesnt make u the right to make pikemans = archers

But atm im getting really PWNED in exp maps already!

And iam 136 full 120 !

My point is ... pikemans was already really weak in defence part!

I agreed with u guys 115 pikemans killing 130 people are not nice! CS+VANISH combo should be nerfed too!

But only defence is hard for us . In exp maps you dont see pikemans cuz we cant exp with this defence.

 

 

But its ok guys lets see how is going to be after the patch!

Im going stop whinning =P

Im happy for all ! gogo rpt =)

[cuteako316 12]

Wartale I play with pikeman already 8 years!

 

Pikemans are made for more atk then defence !

 

But taking defence mastery with 2 hands u gonna make us weak , cuz we dont have 1 hand weapon .

We are the only one melee w/o 1 hand weapon . If u take off our 2 hands defence we gonna stay more weak than everyone !

LOLES

 

Yeah 115 pike 1shotting 125 characters, veri weak.

 

Dude im saying ABOUT DEFENCE ! not ATK

 

I agreed with u ! maybe sandurr should nerf CS to dont 1 HIT KO!

Its a little OP the 1 hit KO with pikes!

 

But my point is our DEFENCE! Not our atk .

We only can play with 2 hands weapon doing exp hunt etc! Stop thinking about pvp all the time.

Im talking about play the game !

Pike is not for tank if its is good for pvp must be bad in something, FS dont have a good AOE but have good HP and good PVP and PS have good evasion and 1hko almost everyone.

 

 

True pikemans are made for atk not defence !

But this point doesnt make u the right to make pikemans = archers

But atm im getting really PWNED in exp maps already!

And iam 136 full 120 !

My point is ... pikemans was already really weak in defence part!

I agreed with u guys 115 pikemans killing 130 people are not nice! CS+VANISH combo should be nerfed too!

But only defence is hard for us . In exp maps you dont see pikemans cuz we cant exp with this defence.

 

 

But its ok guys lets see how is going to be after the patch!

Im going stop whinning =P

Im happy for all ! gogo rpt =)

 

Yeah..lets wait how sanduur will fix every character problems after vl hidden abs is removed too

[aroma_AGAIN 0]

PS : In this new patch critica Bug will be fixed . So i think we wont see noobs pikemans killing 13x anymore so easy!

 

Thats what i hope !

[idanqwe 0]

PS : In this new patch critica Bug will be fixed . So i think we wont see noobs pikemans killing 13x anymore so easy!

 

Thats what i hope !

That wasn't the bug. Pike's critical will stay the same.

 

The bug was when you're hitting monsters, somtimes your weapon is bugged for few minutes and aint doin any crit.

[aroma_AGAIN 0]

PS : In this new patch critica Bug will be fixed . So i think we wont see noobs pikemans killing 13x anymore so easy!

 

Thats what i hope !

That wasn't the bug. Pike's critical will stay the same.

 

The bug was when you're hitting monsters, somtimes your weapon is bugged for few minutes and aint doin any crit.

 

I see . Well lets wait for the patch and see how it stays!

 

We wont go anywhere talking about something wasnt even released yet!

 

Lets wait and see how it stays =_)

[-BLiiND- 0]

pikeman arent the issues hrere. . the main issues are  PRS + ata . . . i dunno what ha ppen to prs in the new patch speciffically at exp map. . and WTF! 110% > 70% ? vengeance are kinda useless already it cant even kill a char a unless we KS or ill a noob. . just was our strongest attack skill . .now its just simply saying throw the thing out of split in the trash . .  kinda answer  why reduce attack boost on split jav? where the main problem is the lag abuse of those people at BC. .and people who are whining  for PS? man get alife. . PS are overpowered without t5 already + t5 50% overall attack rtg . .its like always 1 hit CS . . even with the change on it and put on weapon . .it OP and thats for sure. .and about prs  VL . . i dunno. . .prs mostly relies on that one for exping and thats one thing they are needed at pt .. now that without i bet. . huge change a long with exp parties

[cuteako316 12]

pikeman arent the issues hrere. . the main issues are  PRS + ata . . . i dunno what ha ppen to prs in the new patch speciffically at exp map. . and WTF! 110% > 70% ? vengeance are kinda useless already it cant even kill a char a unless we KS or ill a noob. . just was our strongest attack skill . .now its just simply saying throw the thing out of split in the trash . .  kinda answer  why reduce attack boost on split jav? where the main problem is the lag abuse of those people at BC. .and people who are whining  for PS? man get alife. . PS are overpowered without t5 already + t5 50% overall attack rtg . .its like always 1 hit CS . . even with the change on it and put on weapon . .it OP and thats for sure. .and about prs  VL . . i dunno. . .prs mostly relies on that one for exping and thats one thing they are needed at pt .. now that without i bet. . huge change a long with exp parties

 

For the ata problem, i cannot answer to that. But for the prs. Wartale made a compensation for the removal of hidden abs by adding 0.7 abs for every 40 spirit increase. Which i think is really a god boost. But let's wait to be implemented in game too see. then we can suggests some improvement if it still is a fail.

[ADONIS 0]

I dont undestand the nerf of Split Jav too, with new pvp abs formula ATS will have a hard time.

[TripleR 0]

Reason why we nerfed Split Javelin is in my balance topic.

http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=24827.msg192654#msg192654

 

1 handed ranger has the ability to 1-shot others while the 2 handed ranger doesn't. Plus, 13x ata could 1 shot me on a 140 GM char more than once. Not to mention that its delay is ridiculously quick. So yeah, Split Javelin's damage boost needed to be nerfed.

[Rkokie 6]

New Loading Screens (Made by Melocrie!)

Plain epic :3

 

New Anti-Lag Measures to improve PvP GamePlay

A small step but it's something :3

 

New Spawn Flags in some maps: FT1 FT2 AD1 AD2 AD3 ET3 MF1 MF2 MF3 MD1 MD2 MD3 (By Davv)

great~

 

PvP Battle Formula's Changed: Absorb multiplier from 0.3 to 1.0

Finally pvp won't be 1 hit battles anymore~

 

PvP Mechanician Absorb Bug Fixed!

Epic tankers as they should 8) (hope it will not get bugged and get immortal mechs tho )

 

New PvP Exp Formula (By 3R)

Hope it works out good

 

PvP Ranking Reset (new Formula)

Great~

 

Quests now have a Requirements (such as having to finish previous RankUps)

K~

 

Players now can see the score of Attacking Clans in BC Siege War

YES!, I've been dieing to see this , I know gm's can

 

 

Virtual Life (VL) hidden absorb increase attribute removed

Virtual Life (VL) is now recastable

Lets see if VL is still big shot then, it won't become useless anyways, recastable FTW no moar bug~

 

Priestess HP Formula improved (more HP)

Nice~ tho I'm not sure if needed

 

Spirit now adds absorb (40 spirit = +0.7 abs)

Epic, better tanking ability's for magic chars!

 

 

Skill Balance: Pikeman Tier5 'Attack Rating Mastery' Skill Changed to 50% of Weapon ATR instead of Full ATR (Base Weapon ATR + Spec ATR (Lv/1 stuff))

Yeah!, pikes will no longer 1 hit as much as they do now~

 

Skill Balance: Maximize to 150% Max Damage Boost at Level 10

Yeah! a lil nerf for mechs attack since they hit pretty hard and very quick.(especially laggers)

 

Skill Balance: Mechanic Weapon Mastery to 40% at Level 10

Well since the abs boost will be HUGE I guess this is just fine~

 

Skill Balance: Split Javelin to 80% Damage Boost at Level 10

Great, ata's of my level could 1 split jav my mage OP~ good change

 

Skill Balance: Weapon Defense Mastery to 8% additional Block at Level 10

Good~ I've seen (lag)pikes 11x running in, shotting someone and beïng able to tank 6 12x + while running out lmfao.

 

Exploit to Attack another player with an AoE skill to kill nearby monsters Fixed (such as the Extreme Rage afk exping trick)

Well I will miss it using just to be lazy but i guess it's a step forward against afk xping (:

 

Weapon Critical BugFix

?

 

Many small Bug Fixes

good i guess :3

 

PvE GamePlay improved (monsters more responsive)

Woot!

 

AntiHack improvement

Always a good thing

 

 

Idea on this patch, GREAT. You guys wine to much and should wait and see how stuff works out~

[Fuel 0]

Reason why we nerfed Split Javelin is in my balance topic.

http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=24827.msg192654#msg192654

 

1 handed ranger has the ability to 1-shot others while the 2 handed ranger doesn't. Plus, 13x ata could 1 shot me on a 140 GM char more than once. Not to mention that its delay is ridiculously quick. So yeah, Split Javelin's damage boost needed to be nerfed.

 

Pike have cs and cl, fs have dest and ac, ks have dp and gc.. Archer have incresead atk power, mech have a nice atk now.

Again, why reduce split? Cs 1 hit down, Dest 1 hit down, dp 1 hit down. split 1 hit, less half hp to kill with vg.. vg is a really crap, cant kill players just with vg, with split + vg can, so now, split + vg = suck skills

[idanqwe 0]

Reason why we nerfed Split Javelin is in my balance topic.

http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=24827.msg192654#msg192654

 

1 handed ranger has the ability to 1-shot others while the 2 handed ranger doesn't. Plus, 13x ata could 1 shot me on a 140 GM char more than once. Not to mention that its delay is ridiculously quick. So yeah, Split Javelin's damage boost needed to be nerfed.

 

Pike have cs and cl, fs have dest and ac, ks have dp and gc.. Archer have incresead atk power, mech have a nice atk now.

Again, why reduce split? Cs 1 hit down, Dest 1 hit down, dp 1 hit down. split 1 hit, less half hp to kill with vg.. vg is a really crap, cant kill players just with vg, with split + vg can, so now, split + vg = suck skills

Funny stuff.

Archer have increased atk power? what's that mean? FON? loles.

 

Archer & Mechs doesnt have any deadly skills such as split\dest\devine\CS

stop whining, split jav was overpowered by far.

[TripleR 0]

@Fuel

Pikes and Fighters don't have godly AOE like atas do so please don't compare Atas to them.

And archers don't tank as much as Atas do.

 

Atalantas have always been OP. As you can see in my balance topic, lots of people recognized that Atas were OP and needed to be nerfed.

[aroma_AGAIN 0]

Reason why we nerfed Split Javelin is in my balance topic.

http://www.realmpt.com/forum/index.php?topic=24827.msg192654#msg192654

 

1 handed ranger has the ability to 1-shot others while the 2 handed ranger doesn't. Plus, 13x ata could 1 shot me on a 140 GM char more than once. Not to mention that its delay is ridiculously quick. So yeah, Split Javelin's damage boost needed to be nerfed.

 

thank you for the wonderfull anwser tripler!

 

U said the exactly words im going to .

 

Atalanta is the best char atm!

I love hunting with atalanta now ATA has chimera and split javelin was alot because the delay as tripler said above! Split + veng + delay = no chance to defend

 

And BLiiND . Dont tell me to get a life if u are whinning here too. I just said my point if u dont like it go play another game !! This is a free forum we have to discuss things here .