idanqwe 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 Skill Balance: Mechanic Weapon Mastery to 40% at Level 10 How much was it before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Immortal 40 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 Wasn't it like ~20% before? EDIT: It was 29% before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idanqwe 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 Okay sounds good then, thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uok_vn 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 I see 50% in game. That is nerf 10% guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idanqwe 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 I see 50% in game. That is nerf 10% guy. Jeez he's right... Thats -10% of Maximize and -10% of MWM O_O Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Immortal 40 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 Oh, okei. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uok_vn 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 Nerf alot, so sad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ADONIS 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 I dont think that they nerfed a lot, mechs were killing good in BC now we will tank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idanqwe 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 I dont think that they nerfed a lot, mechs were killing good in BC now we will tank. When mech tank he can't use Maximize, because he use Metal Armor. Reducing the MWM wasn't that smart imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JotaPe 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 ATK MEch need to be nerf now, well full abs = god tanker . + power atk, nonono! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idanqwe 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 ATK MEch need to be nerf now, well full abs = god tanker . + power atk, nonono! When mech tank he can't use Maximize, because he use Metal Armor. That means you can't tank + having good attack power Are you playing PT or.. ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JotaPe 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 Yes, and how i see i know more than you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaynEeE 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 i prefer mech tanker but i like the changes, lets wait to see if ABS BUG was Really Really; fixed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idanqwe 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 Yes, and how i see i know more than you... Oh really? You're talking nonsense things, I'm sure you know alot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommylizard 1 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 FYI, full mechs have high enough atk power even w/o maximize. So that means 400 abs + 1k atk pow. Is that balanced ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JotaPe 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 Play, and stop to talk, u are nothing vs. me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idanqwe 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 Play, and stop to talk, u are nothing vs. me. Keep paying real money to get good gears, neb FYI, full mechs have high enough atk power even w/o maximize. So that means 400 abs + 1k atk pow. Is that balanced ? Yes it is balanced. Without Maximize Mech won't be able to kill before the opponent poting. Mech has Grand Smash only, he doesnt have the deadly skill with delay. (Ata has split jav, PS has CS, FS has Dest, KS has Devine) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JotaPe 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 Play, and stop to talk, u are nothing vs. me. Keep paying real money to get good gears, neb ???????????? Better than cry to have help! @topic: Mech without maximize can also kill easy, not bugged chars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swingegg 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 Better than cry to have help! yep.mech player cry a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JotaPe 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 Gogg, SuckMyClaw, TheRunner, mech's that did kill me without maximize AND "without" abs ! RAIRAIRAIARIAR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idanqwe 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 Gogg, SuckMyClaw, TheRunner, mech's that did kill me without maximize AND "without" abs ! RAIRAIRAIARIAR They're using Maximize + you're not god = death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melocrie 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 Better than cry to have help! yep.mech player cry a lot. For some reason, mechs, pikes and archers always cry a lot. While mostly they're fine when you look at the bigger picture, not just to our own benefits over another. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ADONIS 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 So lets make MS kill no one cus people cant live with mech killing (they fear MS a lot), make theyr atk worst than PRS thats the solution [sarcasm] (not all MS players cry, but a bug must be solved for any class). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JotaPe 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 Gogg, SuckMyClaw, TheRunner, mech's that did kill me without maximize AND "without" abs ! RAIRAIRAIARIAR They're using Maximize + you're not god = death. You really think u know more than me about mech's? ... Why do u always think ure better than the others? If u dont know, I'm the knight that more tank at Wartale Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkLink64 921 Report post Posted July 11, 2011 I kinda agree, and it should be nerfed to 35%, not 40% Fighter Melee Mastery: 32% Knight Sword Mastery: 35% Atalanta Throwing Mastery: 36% Archer Shooting Mastery: 60% <<< Exception, everyone knows that archers are... no need to say. Mechanicians gain the weapon buff (like knight-sword, fighter-axe, pike-scythe) like any other class, there is no reason to keep Mechanic Weapon Mastery at those high numbers, like 50%. All other class, like Fighter, Knight and Atalanta, gains a 30~35% of Weapon ATK POW increase, so, _why_ mechanicians should have 50%? Maximize, at lv 130 with a 110~115~120 Hammer/Axe high aged, gives much ATK POW. So, let's see: A Perf Hammer +20, if my maths aren't wrong: 128-159 ATK pow Maximize gives 150% of Weapon MAX ATK So, you gain 234 of MAX ATK POW. But, you need to split it in two, because its only MAX increase - so, to give a final MIN-MAX dmg increase, it gives 117 of ATK POW Much more than "knight's" 100-100, wich everyone calls OP So, there is no reason that a Mechanic Weapon Mastery should have 50% of weapon ATK pow increase, and 40% is too much My opinion, it should be nerfed to 32%~35% and Maximize to something like 130~140% - If my maths are correctly, Maximize with 130% will increase 103-103, wich is still a OP number =] And 140% gives 111-111, wich is more OP And all you need to consider that Hammers and Axes gives much more ATK pow than Scythes and Swords And for who begans to talk about mech ABS: It's bugged, Wartale is working on that, and you need to consider your extremely powerfull mech with Compulsion working, compulsion is stackable with maximize and gives 42% of ABS, wich is a high number to a power build, since EXTREME shield will be debugged Share this post Link to post Share on other sites