New Wartale

[RodrigoS 3]

Good Morning.
I am new to wartale, I have just under 2 weeks and I learned that after lv 144+ I will be obliged to create a tanker, since I have PET or is it useless in the game?
Atalanta lv 123 game

[mastellini 343]

14 minutes ago, RodrigoS said:

useless in the game

pets and crystals worth only until 143

if you are ranged you obliged need a tanker or if you want to play with only one char you can be a melee but do less xp

look at player ranking...

https://wartale.com/forums/topic/125650-pets-crystals-in-ss/
https://wartale.com/forums/topic/124969-pets-in-ss/

Edited March 10, 2021 by mastellini

[RodrigoS 3]

18 minutes ago, mastellini said:

pets and crystals worth only until 143

if you are ranged you obliged need a tanker or if you want to play with only one char you can be a melee but do less xp

look at player ranking...

This is horrible and leaves new players discouraged, being forced to play melee class or being forced to create a tanker to play range class ..
If the classes have PET it was mandatory to tank on any map

[mastellini 343]

changes have already been suggested and the majority agree, but no reply has been given by the administrators

Just now, RodrigoS said:

This is horrible and leaves new players discouraged

yes a lot of people stop playng at end game because of this and other things, but the server is like that and play this ways who accepts this system and unfortunately a lot of people agree with it ""no pay to win""

[RodrigoS 3]

4 minutes ago, mastellini said:

changes have already been suggested and the majority agree, but no reply has been given by the administrators

It is very sad and disheartening to have a pet and not be able to use it in the highest lv's, he ( @Wartale )thinks that everyone has a good PC to log 2 acc and has money to equip 2 accounts

10 minutes ago, mastellini said:

changes have already been suggested and the majority agree, but no reply has been given by the administrators

yes a lot of people stop playng at end game because of this and other things, but the server is like that and play this ways who accepts this system and unfortunately a lot of people agree with it ""no pay to win""

who came from the other servers and loves the AS, Mech and Mage classes who have the PETs, gets excited by raising the class and when they arrive at 144+ know that pets are not trash and do not serve for anything

[mastellini 343]

4 minutes ago, RodrigoS said:

It is very sad and disheartening to have a pet and not be able to use it in the highest lv's, he ( @Wartale )thinks that everyone has a good PC to log 2 acc and has money to equip 2 accounts

comes other players saying that this is normal and you must accept it, the end game is composed of the type of people who can concentrate a lot of itens/gold/kc, donate a lot or kill themselves for hours every day to have something decent

5 minutes ago, RodrigoS said:

It is very sad and disheartening to have a pet and not be able to use it in the highest lv's, he ( @Wartale )thinks that everyone has a good PC to log 2 acc and has money to equip 2 accounts

who came from the other servers and loves the AS, Mech and Mage classes who have the PETs, gets excited by raising the class and when they arrive at 144+ know that pets are not trash and do not serve for anything

but make no mistake, the overwhelming majority is ranged by the top xp, the melees are cornered here on this server and only serve for pvp

[RodrigoS 3]

4 minutes ago, mastellini said:

comes other players saying that this is normal and you must accept it, the end game is composed of the type of people who can concentrate a lot of itens/gold/kc, donate a lot or kill themselves for hours every day to have something decent

I very much agree with you.
At the global level, I only see people saying: Slot SS mid end game (Ranger), so in case the guy is a melee class, won't he level up on this map called SS?

[mastellini 343]

Just now, RodrigoS said:

so in case the guy is a melee class, won't he level up on this map called SS?

they can to level up in SS yes, but in other spawn that they call "left", where there is less mob, and sometimes those who level up in "MID" get a spawn from "Left" and the melees are left with 4 mobs for 6 people , while the "End Map" is mostly composed of 6 ranged killing 6 mobs (1 for each) and the xp spins on average 1tri / H and on "Left" 600m / H, that melee has to pot, loses time, on average 1 minute to kill the strongest monster on the map, while ranged takes a maximum of 30s

[RodrigoS 3]

3 minutes ago, mastellini said:

they can to level up in SS yes, but in other spawn that they call "left", where there is less mob, and sometimes those who level up in "MID" get a spawn from "Left" and the melees are left with 4 mobs for 6 people , while the "End Map" is mostly composed of 6 ranged killing 6 mobs (1 for each) and the xp spins on average 1tri / H and on "Left" 600m / H, that melee has to pot, loses time, on average 1 minute to kill the strongest monster on the map, while ranged takes a maximum of 30s

and to upgrade in the End game it is mandatory to have a tanker, if you do not have no PT is that it?

[mastellini 343]

the vast majority is auto mech, almost playing AFK and often up to 5 chars + tanker = 10 accounts with just one person, just click and let hitting and potting sometimes, other chars like pike you have to pot a lot without a tanker and keep changing skills all the time and require greater attention so as not to die

Just now, RodrigoS said:

and to upgrade in the End game it is mandatory to have a tanker, if you do not have no PT is that it?

if you are ranged, without a chance to fix pt without a tanker, only if you level up on the left killing with someone else, but counting on it is impossible, so basically yes ...
or play with melee and play one account with reduced xp (many of the melees also have at least one PRS to help with vl)

[RodrigoS 3]

14 minutes ago, mastellini said:

the vast majority is auto mech, almost playing AFK and often up to 5 chars + tanker = 10 accounts with just one person, just click and let hitting and potting sometimes, other chars like pike you have to pot a lot without a tanker and keep changing skills all the time and require greater attention so as not to die

if you are ranged, without a chance to fix pt without a tanker, only if you level up on the left killing with someone else, but counting on it is impossible, so basically yes ...
or play with melee and play one account with reduced xp (many of the melees also have at least one PRS to help with vl)

This is unacceptable.
honestly not even the most horny to play, as the player has only 3 ways to play after 144+.
1 - Be forced to create melee and have a reduced XP
2 - Be forced to create a tanker if playing ranged
3 - If you do not have a tanker, you will be without PT (being ranged class)

[mastellini 343]

These are points that a lot of people put up for discussion in the topics I sent you, but the staff doesn't even care about that.

[RodrigoS 3]

2 minutes ago, mastellini said:

These are points that a lot of people put up for discussion in the topics I sent you, but the staff doesn't even care about that.

Difficult !
Thank you very much for arguing about it.
It opened my mind a lot about the server

[mastellini 343]

1 minute ago, RodrigoS said:

Difficult !
Thank you very much for arguing about it.
It opened my mind a lot about the server

but don't just rely on what I said here, other people can give you another view on, and I don't discourage you from playing, try and see how it works, if you like it and fit in, I hope you have fun ?

[RodrigoS 3]

5 minutes ago, mastellini said:

but don't just rely on what I said here, other people can give you another view on, and I don't discourage you from playing, try and see how it works, if you like it and fit in, I hope you have fun ?

If I have fun it will be until Lv 143, because 144+ I will have a lot of headaches and for that to not happen I better start stopping from now on, because I don't know if I will have enough gold to equip 2 classes and also not I have money to buy KC to equip ..
If they don’t change the Pet system to tank on all maps so it’s done, they’ll lose a lot of players.
Although there are some who love to spend money at stake to stay strong.

[ForYeri 148]

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they’ll lose a lot of players

they'll??

already lost a lot players. lol.

[RodrigoS 3]

14 minutes ago, ForYeri said:

eles vão ??

já perdi muitos jogadores. lol.

In fact, the game is only benefiting those who put money in and ends up becoming P2W.
Who starts now has no way to upgrade 2 classes and have gold to go equipping up to 144+

[you2kyo 171]

It's true that the way they designed SS was not so good for solo play (without tanker). However, you don't need a second character to play after level 144. People only do that for comfort. Also, you guys need to stop using the term "P2W". The game IS NOT P2W. It doesn't give players who buy things with real money any advantage whatsoever.

[kenibok 1,057]

11 hours ago, mastellini said:

comes other players saying that this is normal and you must accept it, the end game is composed of the type of people who can concentrate a lot of itens/gold/kc, donate a lot or kill themselves for hours every day to have something decent

but make no mistake, the overwhelming majority is ranged by the top xp, the melees are cornered here on this server and only serve for pvp

 

This such a victimized posture to have, its very easy to complain but you guys should be fair when doing, how else do you expect to be taken serious?. "Rangers" don't have a extreme damage gap compared to melee's, this has already been tested, for example have you tried assassin? the speed makes the dps crazy high; "rangers" use tankers meaning they pot less, die less, repot less, etc etc, use prs/mage buff, summer, giraffe hat, etc. Parties accept no afk people, no one kills with 1h, you simply can't be serious when you compare a 6 ppl party with 2 people playing with bsm 122 weapon, on 4 spawns with bellum force.

I was just as shocked as some of you when the "upper left" spawn started to be taken by mid parties, but just as people saw it was useful for 6 spawns you (you: people who used "left spawn") could have searched for a new place to party: right and left end map just as an example, both are way more comfortable for "party range" problems than "left spawn". Its been a month and you are still stuck there!! its a win win for both "sides"

 

Don't get me wrong, I do think the crystals and need for tank thing are absolutely awful, I simply can't understand why it works like that; project Gladiator and pve balance should hurry, but the kind of comparisons you're making are not helping. Its kinda pointless to compare KS vs MGS when you have classes like Shaman killing 1 rock in 2 min with pure build.

[RodrigoS 3]

26 minutes ago, kenibok said:

 

This such a victimized posture to have, its very easy to complain but you guys should be fair when doing, how else do you expect to be taken serious?. "Rangers" don't have a extreme damage gap compared to melee's, this has already been tested, for example have you tried assassin? the speed makes the dps crazy high; "rangers" use tankers meaning they pot less, die less, repot less, etc etc, use prs/mage buff, summer, giraffe hat, etc. Parties accept no afk people, no one kills with 1h, you simply can't be serious when you compare a 6 ppl party with 2 people playing with bsm 122 weapon, on 4 spawns with bellum force.

I was just as shocked as some of you when the "upper left" spawn started to be taken by mid parties, but just as people saw it was useful for 6 spawns you (you: people who used "left spawn") could have searched for a new place to party: right and left end map just as an example, both are way more comfortable for "party range" problems than "left spawn". Its been a month and you are still stuck there!! its a win win for both "sides"

 

Don't get me wrong, I do think the crystals and need for tank thing are absolutely awful, I simply can't understand why it works like that; project Gladiator and pve balance should hurry, but the kind of comparisons you're making are not helping. Its kinda pointless to compare KS vs MGS when you have classes like Shaman killing 1 rock in 2 min with pure build.

Okay, well, we can't even compare the melee class vs the ranged class. how did you even mention that ranged people need a tanker to not die easily and tell me what the Ata, Mech and As pet is for ?? To serve as a garnish ?? Because from what I saw on other servers, Pets and Crystals were made to tank for classes that die easily. If you only played Wartale in your life, you need to improve on other servers to see how Pet from AS and Mech works. And the real thing is that Ranged without a tanker doesn’t level up in SS, period.

[you2kyo 171]

13 minutes ago, RodrigoS said:

Okay, well, we can't even compare the melee class vs the ranged class. how did you even mention that ranged people need a tanker to not die easily and tell me what the Ata, Mech and As pet is for ?? To serve as a garnish ?? Because from what I saw on other servers, Pets and Crystals were made to tank for classes that die easily. If you only played Wartale in your life, you need to improve on other servers to see how Pet from AS and Mech works. And the real thing is that Ranged without a tanker doesn’t level up in SS, period.

I do understand that pets have become pretty much useless after level 144+, but you can still use Draxos, Tulla, Greedy Crystals if you want to tank there. But remind me again, you stated on your first post that you've never step a foot inside SS, yet you are here already complaining about it. It makes no sense. lol

[RodrigoS 3]

10 minutes ago, you2kyo said:

I do understand that pets have become pretty much useless after level 144+, but you can still use Draxos, Tulla, Greedy Crystals if you want to tank there. But remind me again, you stated on your first post that you've never step a foot inside SS, yet you are here already complaining about it. It makes no sense. lol

First, I didn't complain about SS, I asked a question if I was really going to create a tanker to be able to level there and the person who was discussing with me on the subject made me very clear about the situation. And I'm making sure about the map so I don't regret it up front, because there are many players that up to 144 then come to know that it is mandatory to have a Tanker to level up (that being ranged) and end up discouraged by the news of having a yes a tanker, this is a joke for anyone to have to level up again from lv 1 to 144 to have a tanker to be able to level up and still have to equip it because without items there is no tank, then the player is obliged to put money (KC) in the game or to exchange for gold or to buy a tanker for KC .. understand my point of view. I'm not talking about a player that is already 144+ in 3 accounts, but for a player that is starting now. ( in my case )

[you2kyo 171]

2 minutes ago, RodrigoS said:

First, I didn't complain about SS, I asked a question if I was really going to create a tanker to be able to level there and the person who was discussing with me on the subject made me very clear about the situation. And I'm making sure about the map so I don't regret it up front, because there are many players that up to 144 then come to know that it is mandatory to have a Tanker to level up (that being ranged) and end up discouraged by the news of having a yes a tanker, this is a joke for anyone to have to level up again from lv 1 to 144 to have a tanker to be able to level up and still have to equip it because without items there is no tank, then the player is obliged to put money (KC) in the game or to exchange for gold or to buy a tanker for KC .. understand my point of view. I'm not talking about a player that is already 144+ in 3 accounts, but for a player that is starting now. ( in my case )

That's the problem. Most of these people you talked to are probably frustated players who think it's mandatory to have a tanker in order to play properly in SS, which is NOT the case. You'll do just fine even if you decide to level up a ranger character. Oh, and guess what, melees have a hard time leveling from 120 to 140 because they're essentially lurers. Don't listen too much to people, play whatever you want and enjoy the game.

[RodrigoS 3]

9 minutes ago, you2kyo said:

That's the problem. Most of these people you talked to are probably frustated players who think it's mandatory to have a tanker in order to play properly in SS, which is NOT the case. You'll do just fine even if you decide to level up a ranger character. Oh, and guess what, melees have a hard time leveling from 120 to 140 because they're essentially lurers. Don't listen too much to people, play whatever you want and enjoy the game.

In the case each map has its class

1-120 (Mage, Pris and SS)

121-140 (Magicians and ranged)

140+ (Melee)

 

That's it ??

[you2kyo 171]

1 minute ago, RodrigoS said:

In the case each map has its class

1-120 (Mage, Pris and SS)

121-140 (Magicians and ranged)

140+ (Melee)

 

That's it ??

1-120 (Mage, Pris, SS, KS, MS, BS, FS(if well-equipped), ATS(if well-equipped)) OBS: Magical classes will do better than others

121-140 (Rangers) OBS: Magical classes will do better than others

140+ (It you wanna play meta, Rangers. If you don't care about that, anything)