Why be a melee?

[Devour 2]

I wonder, why be the melee atm? the disadvantage occurs from the up map (which predominates the rangers) where the design favors the ranged too, those who do not need to worry about potting HP since they have a tanker and always do a high damage.
Sod for magic class (mage 40kk solo).
PVP magic class are op atm, so, why melee?

[mastellini 485]

Fs its better now with the new t5 skill but even with tanker a rocky, phanthasm and bakan can kill me easily with AoE damage and sometimes i have to cancel the skill to pot.

Maybe with some "lifesteal" can help.

No reasons to be a melee atm im a fs but mg have a destryer now btw works much better xD

Rip ks

[Ganlur198 136]

Hp premium from game should have more life steal.

Or work properly, cause +5hp is a joke.

[mastellini 485]

the game is totally polarized, unbalanced, dominant classes, it's sad

5 minutes ago, Ganlur198 said:

Hp premium from game should have more life steal.

Or work properly, cause +5hp is a joke.

yes

[wtrab209b 57]

9 hours ago, Ganlur198 said:

Hp premium from game should have more life steal.

Or work properly, cause +5hp is a joke.

It's not a joke, this could be helpful for the tank mules

Edited April 3, 2021 by wtrab209b

[Ganlur198 136]

6 minutes ago, wtrab209b said:

It's not a joke, this could be helpful for the tank mules

Fighter is supposed to tank cause this class doesn't need tanker as mech or archer.

That's why it's called Fighter and not archer or auto ms.

-.-"

Edited April 3, 2021 by Ganlur198

[ik3r 949]

you can be melee to donate coins and change to ranger bro :D. i think is this what staff want xd

[Jasper 62]

Are we gonna make 100 posts about melee now? Change class or trade class, all chars have pro's and cons.

[xkintaro 1,970]

10 minutes ago, Jasper said:

Are we gonna make 100 posts about melee now? Change class or trade class, all chars have pro's and cons.

 

Agree 100% with you, every class have cons and pros.

 

 

[Devour 2]

7 hours ago, Ganlur198 said:

Fighter is supposed to tank cause this class doesn't need tanker as mech or archer.

That's why it's called Fighter and not archer or auto ms.

-.-"

oh yes, the major objective of the game is level up, 3 dominat class do xp faster and easier, no matter what class i want to play here?

4 hours ago, xkintaro said:

 

Agree 100% with you, every class have cons and pros.

 

 

tell me the cons of mage pls?

Edited April 3, 2021 by Devour

[lucas2310 25]

RangerTale , the end !

[xkintaro 1,970]

8 hours ago, Devour said:

tell me the cons of mage pls?

 

the mage... and he cant... the mage is...  the magician is the exception, he does everything and is op.

[Rawano-x 15]

Yes every class has pro''s and con's but ks is so useless now that the term useless doesent do it justice. 

SPEAKING of justice..... waiting 11 ****** years for holy justice to be released only to be let down of the most useless skill ever to be released.

Honestly what were you guys doing all this time? is this what we have been waiting for all these years? the community shared alot of awesome ideas who are ALOTTTTTTT better then this skill who will not be named.

Anway, yea trying to be respectfull and all but just seriously bummed and pissed off. Not only did you guys release a useless skill and not telling us (you know the players who keep enable you guys to keep your jobs) about the change, but also kinda forced some solo expers to change to ks because of the current meta in SS (good job on that btw) only to be turned into a mule. Im so glad i changed my lovely as to a ks because i refuse to use a high end prst as a mule tank.

TBH if you (the staff) find this post to be offensive then my bad but after playing for so 11 im kinda sick of the state of how you guys communicate (lack off). You guys wont change and honestly its such a shame. 

[DeadlyWarrior 688]

thats because everyone cry and GM is like the WIND.... changes alot.... you can't balance priston 100% its not possible
but when rangers and magic classes like shaman, mages, priest are dominating PVE why the hell making them monsters in PVP? ridicoulus and no logic behind it.
my advice is: best way to have a good career in Wartale and to make the maximum profit is: make a Priest and a Mage and you are with everything fine. you dont need more then this two classes to have fully entertainment in wartale. you will manage PVE and PVP and no need to play Melee. but its useless to talk here they will anyways not listen to players, just nerfing and boosting classes depends on how much we cry

Edited April 4, 2021 by DeadlyWarrior

[Fusko 1]

12 hours ago, Rawano-x said:

Yes every class has pro''s and con's but ks is so useless now that the term useless doesent do it justice. 

SPEAKING of justice..... waiting 11 ****** years for holy justice to be released only to be let down of the most useless skill ever to be released.

Honestly what were you guys doing all this time? is this what we have been waiting for all these years? the community shared alot of awesome ideas who are ALOTTTTTTT better then this skill who will not be named.

Anway, yea trying to be respectfull and all but just seriously bummed and pissed off. Not only did you guys release a useless skill and not telling us (you know the players who keep enable you guys to keep your jobs) about the change, but also kinda forced some solo expers to change to ks because of the current meta in SS (good job on that btw) only to be turned into a mule. Im so glad i changed my lovely as to a ks because i refuse to use a high end prst as a mule tank.

TBH if you (the staff) find this post to be offensive then my bad but after playing for so 11 im kinda sick of the state of how you guys communicate (lack off). You guys wont change and honestly its such a shame. 

I think your last sentence is PERFECT. The incredible lack of communication between players and staff is the trademark of this game. I've only came back last Christmas and it's been 3 months now and you barely hear ANYTHING from GMs....

 

I mean, C'MON, Please communicate, create pools, ask our opinions. Democracy is still a thing in the world btw and very applicable to a game as well.

Edited April 4, 2021 by Fusko
typo

[Dior 639]

1. each class has his own abilities, i play Fs and i enjoy it even if i die easy in SS, but at least i am not playing like a robot with tanker and get bored AF fast.

it is a class that keeps you busy every second of you playing it.

 

2. Rangers cannot do many things. Auto MS can't pvp or go SOD for example (i do enjoy SOD very much with FS now).

 

3. People say "Now KS is died" how additional skill kills knight ? it is additional, it is not like they TOOK one skill off..

 

4. stop looking for "best" the game is not made to play the "best" char, it is made to make a party play with few classes to make it great, unless you greedy bot so enjoy your RANGER.

[TigerShark22 498]

On 4/3/2021 at 10:31 AM, Jasper said:

Are we gonna make 100 posts about melee now? Change class or trade class, all chars have pro's and cons.

Except magic classes who dominate everything.

 

Except rangers who dominate everything ( auto ms can't pvp, but power mech can, and he does that very well )

 

Now, what melees can do except pvp around as good as none melees?  Still looking for the answer.

 

That's nonsense that when rangers/ magic complain about not being able to pvp as good as melees- they get solutions, and when melees do about pve- it gets ignored.

 

Not talking about killing without a tank, but even if you are with 1- it doesn't matter if you are not in range, which is the very basic requirement.

 

 

 

[DeadlyWarrior 688]

9 hours ago, Dior said:

1. each class has his own abilities, i play Fs and i enjoy it even if i die easy in SS, but at least i am not playing like a robot with tanker and get bored AF fast.

it is a class that keeps you busy every second of you playing it.

 

2. Rangers cannot do many things. Auto MS can't pvp or go SOD for example (i do enjoy SOD very much with FS now).

 

3. People say "Now KS is died" how additional skill kills knight ? it is additional, it is not like they TOOK one skill off..

 

4. stop looking for "best" the game is not made to play the "best" char, it is made to make a party play with few classes to make it great, unless you greedy bot so enjoy your RANGER.

 

the topic about KS have been discussed already. KS got a useless T5 skill and got nerfed in his tankability (-3% dmg reduction in PVE and -7% dmg reduction in PVP). atleast the nerf of damage reduction in PVE was corrected from -7% 1H and -10% 2h to -3% in 1h and 2h weapon. but its still damaging the class without logical arguments. they say to balance PVP, but its not a balance, its just an attack against Knight because there are other intentions behind it. if they would really want to balance PVP, then they would balance the whole system. the first class that need to be balanced in PVP is Brawler, is OP. Mage need to be checked. Archer too. And so on. But first class would be Brawler and not Knight. i am also pissed of like all knight players i guess....can't change the decision of the staff... but in the same time will not support this patch.... until other patches comes that let me love this server more again and support it with donations

Edited April 4, 2021 by DeadlyWarrior

[mastellini 485]

3 hours ago, TigerShark22 said:

auto ms can't pvp, but power mech can

ms can do all extremely fine, xp top tier and pvp too, in single char you can reach 10k def, 66 block and give HK on SW, why exists other classes? XDD

 

54 minutes ago, DeadlyWarrior said:

 

the topic about KS have been discussed already. KS got a useless T5 skill and got nerfed in his tankability (-3% dmg reduction in PVE and -7% dmg reduction in PVP). atleast the nerf of damage reduction in PVE was corrected from -7% 1H and -10% 2h to -3% in 1h and 2h weapon. but its still damaging the class without logical arguments. they say to balance PVP, but its not a balance, its just an attack against Knight because there are other intentions behind it. if they would really want to balance PVP, then they would balance the whole system. the first class that need to be balanced in PVP is Brawler, is OP. Mage need to be checked. Archer too. And so on. But first class would be Brawler and not Knight. i am also pissed of like all knight players i guess....can't change the decision of the staff... but in the same time will not support this patch.... until other patches comes that let me love this server more again and support it with donations

no reason to be a ks or fs atm, sad beacause 2 classes can do all content perfectly and very well, making all the others just trash

Edited April 4, 2021 by mastellini

[Dior 639]

1 hour ago, DeadlyWarrior said:

 

the topic about KS have been discussed already. KS got a useless T5 skill and got nerfed in his tankability (-3% dmg reduction in PVE and -7% dmg reduction in PVP). atleast the nerf of damage reduction in PVE was corrected from -7% 1H and -10% 2h to -3% in 1h and 2h weapon. but its still damaging the class without logical arguments. they say to balance PVP, but its not a balance, its just an attack against Knight because there are other intentions behind it. if they would really want to balance PVP, then they would balance the whole system. the first class that need to be balanced in PVP is Brawler, is OP. Mage need to be checked. Archer too. And so on. But first class would be Brawler and not Knight. i am also pissed of like all knight players i guess....can't change the decision of the staff... but in the same time will not support this patch.... until other patches comes that let me love this server more again and support it with donations

Well, keep trying to explain to the staff why the move was wrong. 

i bet they will listen.

 

they fixed a lot of stuff right after discovered after the new patch.

like the mistake they have done with the Fs new skill using with axe only..

 

so don't give up i guess..

 

57 minutes ago, mastellini said:

ms can do all extremely fine, xp top tier and pvp too, in single char you can reach 10k def, 66 block and give HK on SW, why exists other classes? XDD

 

no reason to be a ks or fs atm, sad beacause 2 classes can do all content perfectly and very well, making all the others just trash

i play fs since 2002, and love it ?

[mastellini 485]

39 minutes ago, Dior said:

and love it

only reason xD i like too

[kenibok 1,075]

2 hours ago, DeadlyWarrior said:

 

the topic about KS have been discussed already. KS got a useless T5 skill and got nerfed in his tankability (-3% dmg reduction in PVE and -7% dmg reduction in PVP). atleast the nerf of damage reduction in PVE was corrected from -7% 1H and -10% 2h to -3% in 1h and 2h weapon. but its still damaging the class without logical arguments. they say to balance PVP, but its not a balance, its just an attack against Knight because there are other intentions behind it. if they would really want to balance PVP, then they would balance the whole system. the first class that need to be balanced in PVP is Brawler, is OP. Mage need to be checked. Archer too. And so on. But first class would be Brawler and not Knight. i am also pissed of like all knight players i guess....can't change the decision of the staff... but in the same time will not support this patch.... until other patches comes that let me love this server more again and support it with donations

 

A logical argument is that knight could reach the max defense of game (still can) without debuffs, had extra block and a damage reduction of 25% after all modifiers, while keeping the highest critical in weapon of the whole game, highest for 1hand also. Knight has 57% critical when using crash, meaning 32% probability of hitkill (without buffs), piercing with 30% probability of making 3 critical hits, and 21,2% probability of making 4 critical hits without buff. The chances of those hits to be consecutive is higher than to not be consecutive = hit kill. Ks can tank as good as a mech but without debuffs, higher critical and skill repertoire. PvE there's much more factors in play, but story is not much different. When shaman had a defense close to knight it was hugely nerfed (abs and def), same goes for scratch, but unlike ks, shaman has 19% less critical and no damage reduction. Ks nerf is not even close to shaman's nerf

 

I do agree the pvp system needs balance but I think your focus is too personal. Brawler is obvious, mage year probably (but specially pve), but you're fully ignoring priestess and pikeman; fighter, archer, shaman and assassin are balanced in my opinion

 

1 hour ago, mastellini said:

ms can do all extremely fine, xp top tier and pvp too, in single char you can reach 10k def, 66 block and give HK on SW, why exists other classes? XDD

 

no reason to be a ks or fs atm, sad beacause 2 classes can do all content perfectly and very well, making all the others just trash

 

That's not entirely true, can't have 10k and hitkill: mechanician can get that huge def if using metal amor meaning atk drops by 70%, unlike knight, mech loses shield buffs when switching 2hands, but claw is basically just as strong. Mech with maximize gets 6k+ def just as any other melee

 

This was before tier5 was released

On 2/2/2021 at 12:30 PM, kenibok said:

Although i agree with you that would be great a ms revamp, ms still can crit super high on a 2hit skill, the average non critical hit is probably around 900~1k on a 2 hit skill, while critical hit goes up to.. 2k2? 2k4? thats high. I think whats fair is a ks nerf (we all kno) with probably a ms (a lot smaller) nerf

 

I think the main problem with mech is Maximize, makes Gs too good for such a tanky class, if mech can't be killed should not kill so easily, hitting above 2k happens too much (2 hit skill). Obliterate is just broken and need fix. Pve is nice

[mastellini 485]

11 minutes ago, kenibok said:

I think the main problem with mech is Maximize, makes Gs too good for such a tanky class, if mech can't be killed should not kill so easily, hitting above 2k happens too much (2 hit skill). Obliterate is just broken and need fix. Pve is nice

Yes MS with Claw is broken, a lot of block and can do this big hits easily and survive well

[xxmyeggsxx 59]

Rangertale. There is no reason to be a melee, in this game.

[patriciops 58]

I just entered SS which Left's HS is in the hands of MID, this is simply a melee melee, as there is by far the best place to melee up. Now I’m standing here city, because I can’t upload. MID only from PT to ranger or melee that has a tanker, END so ranger.

 

I wonder how long the GM will leave SS in the hands of the rangers and thus leave Melee crying in SS. @Senpai