mastellini 343 Report post Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) Has no reasons to use Axe atm now Flame Vortex is able for Swords too, so any plans in the future to make Axe viable somehow? Since the Sword is better at averything on fs... It is very annoying to be a FS and having to use a sword ... @Senpai @Wartale Thank you. Edited April 2, 2021 by mastellini 7 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fernando 103 Report post Posted April 2, 2021 Axe is the new 1h hammer, there's no point to use 1h hammer when we have claws with better stats... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mastellini 343 Report post Posted April 2, 2021 If no plans i will change fow SW too.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerShark22 488 Report post Posted April 2, 2021 1 hour ago, mastellini said: Has no reasons to use Axe atm now Flame Vortex is able for Swords too, so any plans in the future to make Axe viable somehow? Since the Sword is better at averything on fs... It is very annoying to be a FS and having to use a sword ... @Senpai @Wartale Thank you. With the new T5 axe > sword . At AC/BC/dest sword> axe. I did write about it though, changing the aging formula of axe, to make it like swords , axe will have a bit more brute force than sword, and sword will have a bit more crit/AR and block. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mastellini 343 Report post Posted April 3, 2021 13 hours ago, TigerShark22 said: With the new T5 axe > sword . At AC/BC/dest sword> axe. I did write about it though, changing the aging formula of axe, to make it like swords , axe will have a bit more brute force than sword, and sword will have a bit more crit/AR and block. yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lukems350 3 Report post Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) I agree with mastellini, the brawler's fists not only increase critical but also add block, the ax is the only item in the game that does not add critical with age, the FS besides being a class that misses a lot has no critical with axe Edited April 3, 2021 by Lukems350 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Dior 633 Report post Posted February 13, 2024 On 4/2/2021 at 10:52 PM, mastellini said: If no plans i will change fow SW too.... That's Exactly the plan how to get coins from you. instead of making all items Equal. there are some items that their value is so low, BUT still very rare to drop. Price axe on market is a SHAME now. and i will never switch to Sword just because it is better. hope they work out something about Axe/Sword. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alextove 92 Report post Posted February 14, 2024 I don't know, but maybe modify the passive causing 10-20% more damage with just the axe? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xkintaro 1,689 Report post Posted February 14, 2024 axes for the poor and swords for the rich. sw 146 30kc? axe 146 less than 10kc? i go for axe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dior 633 Report post Posted February 14, 2024 11 hours ago, Alextove said: I don't know, but maybe modify the passive causing 10-20% more damage with just the axe? There is so many options to make it better. but main reason is people who waste coins and this is great for the server. lol. i don't believe anymore that we are heard here. SOD over 10 years same thing so many suggestion are gone in the air, thing that need a change, but there is always time to create new skins. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Labun41 10 Report post Posted February 29, 2024 Just give 5 -7 % Crit to FS only when using axe - fs specific weapon. That would already be nice. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dior 633 Report post Posted February 29, 2024 i know fighters who are using swords right now will not like the idea, but GM tried that once already and made skills to be useable with Axe Only. maybe this is a good solution to get Fighters use AXE only but ! must boost the skills that are useable with AXE Only ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xkintaro 1,689 Report post Posted February 29, 2024 1 hour ago, Dior said: i know fighters who are using swords right now will not like the idea, but GM tried that once already and made skills to be useable with Axe Only. maybe this is a good solution to get Fighters use AXE only but ! must boost the skills that are useable with AXE Only ! There is no need to prohibit them from using a sword, it is up to each person, whoever wants to use an axe and whoever wants a sword also uses a sword. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dior 633 Report post Posted February 29, 2024 6 minutes ago, xkintaro said: There is no need to prohibit them from using a sword, it is up to each person, whoever wants to use an axe and whoever wants a sword also uses a sword. ? what about pike wants to use an Axe ? lol then make one Char that can use everything. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xkintaro 1,689 Report post Posted February 29, 2024 1 minute ago, Dior said: ? what about pike wants to use an Axe ? lol then make one Char that can use everything. is not about use everything, but have more options. Just because you think the axe is weaker than the sword, do you want to force others not to use swords? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dior 633 Report post Posted February 29, 2024 2 hours ago, xkintaro said: is not about use everything, but have more options. Just because you think the axe is weaker than the sword, do you want to force others not to use swords? It is not what i think it is a fact, Math. i used to be Sword Fs, now because of the price of new sword i went 146 Axe. there is a reason for sword being expensive… out of all Melee if you want to use multiple weapons there is a Mech for it, were many of them Auto MS before EB, and some power mech also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xkintaro 1,689 Report post Posted February 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, Dior said: It is not what i think it is a fact, Math. i used to be Sword Fs, now because of the price of new sword i went 146 Axe. there is a reason for sword being expensive… out of all Melee if you want to use multiple weapons there is a Mech for it, were many of them Auto MS before EB, and some power mech also. And just because an item is expensive do you have to force others to use an axe? Or do you want to force everyone to use axes because that would increase the prices of the axes you have. If you want to force everyone to use an ax just because you can't afford to buy a 146 sword, it doesn't make any sense. you have the option to use X or Y, forcing everyone to use X will not make X better or equal to Y, which is what is being suggested in the topic. Total ilogical forcing players to use something they don't want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dior 633 Report post Posted February 29, 2024 3 hours ago, xkintaro said: And just because an item is expensive do you have to force others to use an axe? Or do you want to force everyone to use axes because that would increase the prices of the axes you have. If you want to force everyone to use an ax just because you can't afford to buy a 146 sword, it doesn't make any sense. you have the option to use X or Y, forcing everyone to use X will not make X better or equal to Y, which is what is being suggested in the topic. Total ilogical forcing players to use something they don't want. You are so Anti, don’t know what you’re looking here for. i am not forcing anyone to use anything. Do you play Fs in game ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xkintaro 1,689 Report post Posted February 29, 2024 27 minutes ago, Dior said: You are so Anti, don’t know what you’re looking here for. i am not forcing anyone to use anything. Do you play Fs in game ? Yes im a fighter, im jsut saying you cant suggest to block sw to FS, to they use axes, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dior 633 Report post Posted February 29, 2024 1 hour ago, xkintaro said: Yes im a fighter, im jsut saying you cant suggest to block sw to FS, to they use axes, Well, you remember the time GM did so without even asking us right ? so there is no problem to do so if it is planned ahead. maybe you use Sword and you paid for it over 40kc inseatd of 16kc for axe with +15 str, i understand you. i felt the same when i was with 138 sword donated +15 str and they disabled FS skills with Sword ... am trying to find a balance, and instead of complaining we should advice suggestions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xkintaro 1,689 Report post Posted February 29, 2024 Just now, Dior said: Well, you remember the time GM did so without even asking us right ? so there is no problem to do so if it is planned ahead. maybe you use Sword and you paid for it over 40kc inseatd of 16kc for axe with +15 str, i understand you. i felt the same when i was with 138 sword donated +15 str and they disabled FS skills with Sword ... am trying to find a balance, and instead of complaining we should advice suggestions. im just close to 15x, just got back to the game bro, i just said is wrong to limit or options and forcing we to use a AXE. when i was 15x with my FS i always used sw, because of the critic, now im just come back im gonna for a 146 axe since i believe it is better than a 138 sw. a balance should not be to remove sw on fighters skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dior 633 Report post Posted February 29, 2024 Just now, xkintaro said: im just close to 15x, just got back to the game bro, i just said is wrong to limit or options and forcing we to use a AXE. when i was 15x with my FS i always used sw, because of the critic, now im just come back im gonna for a 146 axe since i believe it is better than a 138 sw. a balance should not be to remove sw on fighters skills. in fact, Sword is better for PVP, axe deal more dmg in PVE... i also like Sword Fighter more than Axe... even on official server i had Salamnder Sword Devine MP Mix haha... good old days. we can't ask to rise Critical of axe to be like Sword, FS will be monster this way... Maybe we need a little more buff on our skills for more dmg from Zerk and maybe lil more AR from Inner Soul ... On 4/2/2021 at 10:41 PM, mastellini said: Has no reasons to use Axe atm now Flame Vortex is able for Swords too, so any plans in the future to make Axe viable somehow? Since the Sword is better at averything on fs... It is very annoying to be a FS and having to use a sword ... @Senpai @Wartale Thank you. kinda disagree with you about PVE with Axe vs Sword ... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiNezumi 2 Report post Posted September 29, 2024 (edited) Compare damage difference on 142 weapons: Axe 123 - 140 Sw 104 - 118 and 146 weapons: Axe 152 - 167 Sw 149 - 161 THe damage difference on 146 weapons is a joke.... Axe should have way more attk. Having 3 more minimal damage is not even a joke... They should increase 146 axe attk power!!!! Edited September 29, 2024 by KiNezumi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Killerpopo 34 Report post Posted September 29, 2024 (edited) They are 1h weapon. You are comparing a 1h weapon vs 2h weapon. Edited September 29, 2024 by Killerpopo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites