xkintaro 2,148 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Natengs said: I said that the diq mode that is still in today should change, because there are a lot of people who can't stay on the PC all the time, and just want to log in and be able to level up calmly without waiting for a vacancy, lurer, tanker, killers, just go to the map and get the quest and go leveling up like SS, if you want to go solo and not have to wait for a vacancy! And another... simple, it seems so difficult for an outdated thing that diq is even more of the nerf of mobs and hs2, you nowadays go to diq on each subserver and only have one pt on hs3 on each subserver and if you still have... because our friend @Tiosan and co nerfed the hs2 mobs and made it practically impossible to level there, why don't you think of something more attractive? Oh no! I forgot only know how to think about $$ and yes, I like wartale a lot, but the way it is, I get annoyed every time and I don't feel like logging in, and many are leaving the server because of the difficulty they are having and because the game is outdated, I could put new quests to be able to level up, achieve goals, and not stay on a map that needs tanks, lurers, killers, but play with a class you like, without needing to have a magic class to level up on a mule... but I know you never will change, unless wartale changes its name again and changes the quest system and updates the simple game. many like kina, ps, fs etc... and nowadays they are forced to level with autoMs to stay alone, if not, you don't level up and don't win a group if not automs, these times I saw a live where it was 6tt full automs is ridiculous and disheartening, and you just want to play with your character you like but it's not possible, because Server won't let you. you don't just have DIQ, you can go to Iron Core whenever you want and level up. the problem of having only one HS on each map is different from the quest itself being bad. the initial missions are already very good to help beginners, i started a char in august of last year and i got 151 from 0, i didn't buy any char and i know what i'm talking about, when i got from 1 to 132 i didn't even have gold in the quests and could buy from bot pots XP 3hrs. In SS there's that same (6 automs pt), but it's a group of more hardcore/service people and they play MS because it's the strongest currently, the staff needs to buff meeles to balance it. In Diq I've seen mech tank, ks and shaman, killer all classes can go as a killer with a weapon 138, Diq can play anyway, really different from SS that ranger pts exclude meeles. 58 minutes ago, piabeta said: the game's level progression is bad for those who join the server now! people don't understand this because they already have a high level account with resources to level up, now a newbie will start from lvl 1 will suffer and give up. a game where you already have level 170 players I don't know why it's still boring to level up an account in the early levels Priston is a Grind game, so you will have people with more levels and more items than others who play less. You can play and do everything in the game being a 15x equal to the person who is 17x, he is 17x but is not immortal and has no undue advantages, or the person plays the game longer, or spent $$$ to get one character faster, both ways is ok. 28 minutes ago, Tyr said: From my POV, a player that left when this server was still called Wartale and returned like less them a month ago what i have to say is as a noob perspective with MoonHunt lvling and get money isnt hard, im 127 atm and im lvling really casual and chill with friends and im not finding any real difficult...maybe that gets hard when i hit the DIQ and SS marks, but if the lvling system persist as it is i really enjoy it... I dont know how it is 13x+ but right now i do the dailies and if i want to do more exp i try to Q for a group in ct3 or duo/trio with friends in ad2 if continues like this im good... as I said there, it's not that bad the first levels, it still takes a while, but that's what makes the game fun, if it was easy it wouldn't be priston. in SS there are characters that are excluded from parties for not playing as other players (meeles and players without tanks), then yes there is a problem. 53 minutes ago, Natengs said: Exactly, I wanted to see a reset on the server, all level 1, then they would understand the difficulties of beginning players, then the game would change When the BS event came out, all players were equal, there could be something like that. It could have an annual season system, along the same lines as the BS event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kotori156 12 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Freakboy said: sorry for the long wait guys. GM remove the SS map for the melee purposes. Enjoy Wartale.. ^^ Fake news, from what I heard all the ranged class will be changed. Mech no longer has automation. Acher equip high heels and only kicking monsters from now on. Ata can no longer use Javelin, she now equip with one shield and one spear. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slipknot666 23 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 51 minutes ago, Tyr said: From my POV, a player that left when this server was still called Wartale and returned like less them a month ago what i have to say is as a noob perspective with MoonHunt lvling and get money isnt hard, im 127 atm and im lvling really casual and chill with friends and im not finding any real difficult...maybe that gets hard when i hit the DIQ and SS marks, but if the lvling system persist as it is i really enjoy it... I dont know how it is 13x+ but right now i do the dailies and if i want to do more exp i try to Q for a group in ct3 or duo/trio with friends in ad2 if continues like this im good... Ancient weapon Quest has to be changed, no one is doing that Q since it it obviousvly uselees, time consuming. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freakboy 4 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 hi guys! I will inform you that the maintenance will take to long the turn around time is 3 to 5 days.. releasing new map 148 and T6 new skill balancing class for melee increase damage the skilll to monster add party Q in SL and SS for those whos waiting just sleep and relax, save your energy for grind.. ? Enjoy Wartale! ^^ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slipknot666 23 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 43 minutes ago, Freakboy said: hi guys! I will inform you that the maintenance will take to long the turn around time is 3 to 5 days.. releasing new map 148 and T6 new skill balancing class for melee increase damage the skilll to monster add party Q in SL and SS for those whos waiting just sleep and relax, save your energy for grind.. ? Enjoy Wartale! ^^ Nah, this aint true. See y'all next year! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadlyWarrior 688 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 guys, what was the longest maint you have expierienced in this server? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slipknot666 23 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, DeadlyWarrior said: guys, what was the longest maint you have expierienced in this server? Kidding aside, 1-2months. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diraiz 261 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 1 hour ago, DeadlyWarrior said: guys, what was the longest maint you have expierienced in this server? It can take weeks, because actually these maintenances happen for GM's to make PVP tournament among themselves and play HG alone, without anyone bothering. 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sqwuishy 94 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 @Wartale can you give us an estimated time frame on this maintenance? There is only so much self touching I can do to kill time. 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dior 704 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 lol and when server get up people will rush to donate once again... how come staff sh!t on us like that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
exhaleenergy 8 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 Okay, so... I work with software for years, games usually fall into this same process, which is: You have your production server/application, the one we play; You work on features/bugfixes on a local environment, you literally have your own local instance of the server and can test everything out; You have a staging server, that is a 1-1 copy of the production server (infrastructure wise), and your local changes are pushed into this server for more testing. All developers and testers should use this environment to test things out prior to deploying the updates to the production server; When following this process, you can do all this heavy 3-5 days testing in the staging server, other than shutting down the production server to apply the updates. This sounds so unrealistic to me, that a game with so many players and so much money involved (I'm basing myself on the amount of "kc" that I see flowing in the game), needs to be a few days offline for applying updates. I could be underestimating the effort that the devs have in order to apply patches to this "handcrafted" version of Wartale, and I'm also opened to help on setting up a structure like that for future updates and patches to the game, I have years of experience in software development and I wouldn't mind helping on this process so players don't get frustrated in every update that happens to the game. Besides that, I think that opting to update the game (knowing that it will take a few days totally offline) on a friday is a bad call. I just came back to play the game after many and many years (I played for a while when it was still RealmPT), but I work 8 hours a day... Weekends are the time I can invest more time on playing and having the game offline during a weekend is bad.. I little bit of rent, but overall, I'm trying to bring a constructive criticism here, for future updates. I hope you understand. 1 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poosh1 207 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 I'm fine to wait even 1 week if the update comes with the changes we so need (balance PvE and PvP), remove buffs, battle royale, new map, etc.. Lets be patient about that, i'm sure everyone has something else to do and relax until the server back. Don't need to act like drug addicts ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
exhaleenergy 8 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, poosh1 said: I'm fine to wait even 1 week if the update comes with the changes we so need (balance PvE and PvP), remove buffs, battle royale, new map, etc.. Lets be patient about that, i'm sure everyone has something else to do and relax until the server back. Don't need to act like drug addicts ^^ You really don't understand my point. No matter how big an update is, if you follow a decent deployment process (getting an update deployed to your production server/app/game), it shouldn't take long. You can literally have an update with everything you just said being deployed in a few hours without even taking the game offline (maybe like 1 hour downtime for consistency checks). Nobody is acting like a drug addict. I think that just "accepting" this with an excuse that it'll bring good changes to the game, and you can "relax" meanwhile, lol... What do you mean by relax meanwhile? I relax playing games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GuardianMEC 189 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 42 minutes ago, exhaleenergy said: Okay, so... I work with software for years, games usually fall into this same process, which is: You have your production server/application, the one we play; You work on features/bugfixes on a local environment, you literally have your own local instance of the server and can test everything out; You have a staging server, that is a 1-1 copy of the production server (infrastructure wise), and your local changes are pushed into this server for more testing. All developers and testers should use this environment to test things out prior to deploying the updates to the production server; When following this process, you can do all this heavy 3-5 days testing in the staging server, other than shutting down the production server to apply the updates. This sounds so unrealistic to me, that a game with so many players and so much money involved (I'm basing myself on the amount of "kc" that I see flowing in the game), needs to be a few days offline for applying updates. I could be underestimating the effort that the devs have in order to apply patches to this "handcrafted" version of Wartale, and I'm also opened to help on setting up a structure like that for future updates and patches to the game, I have years of experience in software development and I wouldn't mind helping on this process so players don't get frustrated in every update that happens to the game. Besides that, I think that opting to update the game (knowing that it will take a few days totally offline) on a friday is a bad call. I just came back to play the game after many and many years (I played for a while when it was still RealmPT), but I work 8 hours a day... Weekends are the time I can invest more time on playing and having the game offline during a weekend is bad.. I little bit of rent, but overall, I'm trying to bring a constructive criticism here, for future updates. I hope you understand. It's really true, I also work with software development and the strategy that wartale developers use is kind of "obscure" because they don't have a test server or if they're using it wrong for leaving so much time off the production system. However, it is already a tradition and I believe it will not change 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadlyWarrior 688 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 Wartale cares about our families therefore from time to time the server goes down for some days that the exp-slaves take time for their wife/children 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smilo 109 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 They care about my vacancies ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Br0wns 8 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 I'm new here, is that common? I've never saw 2 days of maintenance ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diraiz 261 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Br0wns said: I'm new here, is that common? I've never saw 2 days of maintenance ? Yes it is common. And you can even see, by clicking on TOP RANKING, that all the characters are gone. The last time this happened, everyone had to start from 0 and there was a lot of fighting because players took advantage of this to steal each other's nickname. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Br0wns 8 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Diraiz said: Yes it is common. And you can even see, by clicking on TOP RANKING, that all the characters are gone. The last time this happened, everyone had to start from 0 and there was a lot of fighting because players took advantage of this to steal each other's nickname. Hmm, now I understand your avatar ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Natengs 127 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 I'm not really playing, I lost the will to play for several reasons, so for me take as long as you need, I know you'll vit unnecessary updates Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyr 43 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 4 hours ago, poosh1 said: I'm fine to wait even 1 week if the update comes with the changes we so need (balance PvE and PvP), remove buffs, battle royale, new map, etc.. Lets be patient about that, i'm sure everyone has something else to do and relax until the server back. Don't need to act like drug addicts ^^ Not everybody has the free time that you have to play the game whenever you want that you can logon and off as your will and wait how many time as you wish, kid. P.s.: Your mom didnt tell you that call someone a drug addicted just because they express an opinion is not cool? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alberto47 44 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 1_ new map 148 release 2 - new items coins shop 3- fixer skill balance pvp balance 4- pvp all server test provisonal 5- skill balance from mobs hig knigth ligting sword strong 5- pikeman skill tornado use only kill mobs strong 6- fs skill fixer strong from mobs 7- default all ranger decrease skill from kil mobs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyr 43 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 4 hours ago, exhaleenergy said: Okay, so... I work with software for years, games usually fall into this same process, which is: You have your production server/application, the one we play; You work on features/bugfixes on a local environment, you literally have your own local instance of the server and can test everything out; You have a staging server, that is a 1-1 copy of the production server (infrastructure wise), and your local changes are pushed into this server for more testing. All developers and testers should use this environment to test things out prior to deploying the updates to the production server; When following this process, you can do all this heavy 3-5 days testing in the staging server, other than shutting down the production server to apply the updates. This sounds so unrealistic to me, that a game with so many players and so much money involved (I'm basing myself on the amount of "kc" that I see flowing in the game), needs to be a few days offline for applying updates. I could be underestimating the effort that the devs have in order to apply patches to this "handcrafted" version of Wartale, and I'm also opened to help on setting up a structure like that for future updates and patches to the game, I have years of experience in software development and I wouldn't mind helping on this process so players don't get frustrated in every update that happens to the game. Besides that, I think that opting to update the game (knowing that it will take a few days totally offline) on a friday is a bad call. I just came back to play the game after many and many years (I played for a while when it was still RealmPT), but I work 8 hours a day... Weekends are the time I can invest more time on playing and having the game offline during a weekend is bad.. I little bit of rent, but overall, I'm trying to bring a constructive criticism here, for future updates. I hope you understand. I dont think the problem here is skill, for sure they heard this kind of thing in the past... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolf0119 267 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 It is curious to see this type of phenomenon every big update, where players demand from the staff a change that they consider the correct / necessary, being that only things that they had planned to implement will be implemented, things that have been polishing for weeks, and you I assure that exerting pressure in the forum does not obtain any results, the game staff will continue at their pace. I will give you some advice, do not wait too long or you will end up disappointed if what you want does not happen, do not fall into despair or it will give you anxiety. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordola00 0 Report post Posted July 11, 2021 I think this is a simple case of poor decision making or lack of investment from the servers administration. I had a MU Online server back at 2012 as a hobby and i had to do things like this often cause i couldn't afford to pay someone to do it for me and i only had free time on weekends. But, as it was sugested before Wartale makes a good amount of money, or it seems like that anyway. So, why the F.. this is happening on a full weekend? I've started playing here has no more than a week and the server already took almost 3 days off. I cannot think of another reason for it. I'm doubting even if the staff checks this forum thread, cause seem like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites