Mage feedback (Patch 5230)

[buSalem 42]

19 minutes ago, vhnh167 said:

LOL, your arguments only show how shallow you are in PvP and SW. With 10+ classes, if you want all characters to be balanced PvP-wise, you end up creating 10+ different versions of the same character. That's why you can never ever have a truly balanced PvP system. Think about what make mages different from pike, or knight. For instance, mages get damage reduction, which is unique in the server. Next, you get 35 extra resistances, which make you almost immune to other slows/stuns. Shamans have slow, but only on one target. Pikemans have aoe slow, but they are much easier to die (even with shields). In PvP, if mages can do what they are supposed to do, their team has a lot of advantages. Back when I was active in PvP, I preferred to mage as a support so my teammates can kill more easily. I got ridiculed for not being able to kill anyone, but who cares, as long as we win the war.

so u r saying u enjoying being distortion mule.. and say we all should follow ur play style ?????.. why only distort when u can distort AND kill .. mage is also supposed to be a class that is typically a nuker in all MMO.. nice gameplay tho distortion ONLY for 1-2 hours ??.. how is mage like any other character when he have lower atk rtg/health/crit rate/slow cast speed?!..

 

mage shield is necessary because he hit from close range/melee to kill.. ps and ass got high evade  similar to shield survivability and they kill.. mechanic have stupendous amount of defense and block thats even more broken than anything in the game and he can kill.. all characters in game have their own survivability skills so stop saying mage is so tanky when he have lowest block rate and lowest health and must fight in melee range.

 

u r trying ur best to make sense but i end up having to repeat whatever I have to say to everyone else.. mage have lowest atk rtg and lowest base health he must have higher atk dmg RATIO to be able to deal dmg in pvp.. his own t5 even when it used to deal decent damage it still put him in a vulnerable spot because of its EXTREMELY LOW cast speed .. anyways my point is clear I want to enjoy the game during the 1-2 hours sw and not be a distort mule.

 

its not my fault u r happy being SOD bot and SW mule .. good night

[vhnh167 284]

2 minutes ago, buSalem said:

so u r saying u enjoying being distortion mule.. and say we all should follow ur play style ?????.. why only distort when u can distort AND kill .. mage is also supposed to be a class that is typically a nuker in all MMO.. nice gameplay tho distortion ONLY for 1-2 hours ??.. how is mage like any other character when he have lower atk rtg/health/crit rate/slow cast speed?!..

 

mage shield is necessary because he hit from close range/melee to kill.. ps and ass got high evade  similar to shield survivability and they kill.. mechanic have stupendous amount of defense and block thats even more broken than anything in the game and he can kill.. all characters in game have their own survivability skills so stop saying mage is so tanky when he have lowest block rate and lowest health and must fight in melee range.

 

u r trying ur best to make sense but i end up having to repeat whatever I have to say to everyone else.. mage have lowest atk rtg and lowest base health he must have higher atk dmg RATIO to be able to deal dmg in pvp.. his own t5 even when it used to deal decent damage it still put him in a vulnerable spot because of its EXTREMELY LOW cast speed .. anyways my point is clear I want to enjoy the game during the 1-2 hours sw and not be a distort mule.

 

its not my fault u r happy being SOD bot and SW mule .. good night

Pity, it's like talking to a rock. Good luck trying to convince the staff to reverse their decisions though. Might end up like Molaxx getting the char nerfed even more ? 

[buSalem 42]

5 minutes ago, vhnh167 said:

Pity, it's like talking to a rock. Good luck trying to convince the staff to reverse their decisions though. Might end up like Molaxx getting the char nerfed even more ? 

yh its good u r not staff you think characters lvl 16x with 144 equipments should be distort mules in sw ????

[Tyr 43]

Quote ONE MMO where mages are strong at PvP.... This post was suposed to talk about the changes of Mages, wich isn't anymore...it becomes a weeping post about how mages are not strong at PvP as they are at PvE... '-'

Edited July 13, 2021 by Tyr

[buSalem 42]

6 minutes ago, Tyr said:

Quote ONE MMO where mages are strong at PvP.... This post was suposed to talk about the changes of Mages, wich isn't anymore...it becomes a winny post about how mages are not strong at PvP as they are at PvE... '-'

no one is whinning except mage haters here.. games with good mage ? WoW? flyff?maplestory?lineage 2? i dunno what is the purpose of ur question .. as I said u r here NOT to get convinced . and yet I answered back to u again.. good night again ?

Edited July 13, 2021 by buSalem

[luispingu2 15]

all mmorpg mages are extremely strong in pve and massive pvp,  only in priston this doesn't happen lol kkk. there are usually better ones in x1, but the atk arsenal of mmo mages make it just as strong in pve with large mob ords as in massive pvp with clan with atks in AOE damage.

for this new mage to get well they should put the meteor to work the same as watornado, to work throughout the skill's cd, only stop falling meteor when the skill runs again.

[FredderickS 78]

GM y cuando Arreglas el "MANA SHIELD"? 
Dicen que el mago es bueno en AOE?  por su Flame Wave y por eso ahora nerf pero su "MANA SHIELD" sigue Igual

 

Edited July 13, 2021 by FredderickS

[luispingu2 15]

for this new mage to get well they should put the meteor to work the same as watornado, to work throughout the skill's cd, only stop falling meteor when the skill runs again.

[monkeymadness32 9]

Free class change for all mages ?

[Molaxx 354]

Its irrelevant to talk any thing with this poor community.  I read all coments here and i think its a waste of your time to going in forum and speak any thing about balance.  They dont play this game and a majority party of community dont know who balance any thing in this game.

 

For staff, im sorry, but they are incompetent for balance mage.  I forgoten my hopes whem staff start this balance.   I never imagine the mage is the worst class in this **** game, but here we go... mage is worst them pike, and its say a lot about this balance now. 

 

In the PVP mage is the worst class, ASS continue need a serious nerf and of corse this staff is the worst staff if i look in all of my life. 

 

 

Happens. The community have the staff if it deserve.

10 minutes ago, monkeymadness32 said:

Free class change for all mages ?

 

/RT

[FredderickS 78]

2 minutes ago, Molaxx said:

Es irrelevante hablar de algo con esta pobre comunidad. He leído todos los comentarios aquí y creo que es una pérdida de tiempo ir al foro y hablar sobre el equilibrio. No juegan a este juego y la mayoría de la comunidad no sabe quién equilibra nada en este juego.

 

Para el personal, lo siento, pero son incompetentes para el mago del equilibrio. Olvidé mis esperanzas cuando el personal inició este equilibrio. Nunca imaginé que el mago es la peor clase en este juego de mierda, pero aquí vamos ... el mago es el peor lucio, y ahora dice mucho sobre este equilibrio. 

 

En el PVP, el mago es la peor clase, ASS sigue necesitando un nerf serio y, por supuesto, este personal es el peor personal si miro en toda mi vida. 

 

 

Sucede. La comunidad cuenta con el personal si se lo merece.

You have to recognize them
they had a second of creativity
Separating the PVP and PVE Damage is a good IDEA
For the rest it is obvious that they DO NOT HAVE CHAR MGS
 

Destroyer Armor

A war veteran's armor.

Wartale Staff Only

[lefaucheur 159]

irrrrrrrrrrrru Pega fogo. Big Girls dont cry!!

any talk about key?  

drop rate same an iten 140 ?

any one talk? KKKKKKKKKKK

[FredderickS 78]

3 minutes ago, lefaucheur said:

irrrrrrrrrrrru Pega fogo. Big Girls dont cry!!

any talk about key?  

drop rate same an iten 140 ?

any one talk? KKKKKKKKKKK

 
Bro the Nerf to MGS is Good... He MGS With Nerf or Without Nerf is still s.h.i.t*

 

Edited July 14, 2021 by FredderickS

[luispingu2 15]

the mage's nerf is a catch for the molax, in 1 week they'll buff again.

[EliPortela 147]

11 minutes ago, luispingu2 said:

the mage's nerf is a catch for the molax, in 1 week they'll buff again.

I don't think so.

Mages will be grounded in limbo for a long time.

Edited July 14, 2021 by EliPortela

[Molaxx 354]

16 minutes ago, luispingu2 said:

the mage's nerf is a catch for the molax, in 1 week they'll buff again.

 

I dont waste time with this game. If staff think its a good balance, OK no problem. I help this sever a lot, now im tired i need time to breath and play other's games .  For me is fine now, all time this incompetent staff imagine one way to nerf my class every time.  

 

Mage never is good in PVP, never good in up, hunt any thing.  For me they can pick mage and take in the hell i dont metter.  This staff is waste of time. No more , its unbelieveble this balances.  Its funny...  rs

[luispingu2 15]

fire ball 53% damage. wartale, im a joke for you ? XDdd

[disable1000 510]

Welcome to NerfTale 2021 ?

[Tyr 43]

(I'll talk in the PvE spectrum, i don't play PvP)
I don't think the changes were too much. Mage needed a nerf and the nerf wasn't too much, but something need adjust...Right now the rotation it's a little off, in order to have a little of sinergy in the rotation we need to hold Meteorite a few seconds to cast asa Wartornado comes off cooldown, otherwise the rotation gets a little messy.
The sugestion that i will give that i think would help a lot with this issue would be to make the Meteorite like the Lightning Skill from T5 of Priests, we cast on a place in the ground and it starts to rain Meteorites for a period of time, put the skill with a 28s cooldown and the rain of meteorite to last 12s(the same amount of time that wartonado last), Wartornado has a 14s CD wich would give us to cast 2 wartornados before cast Meteorite.

Like This:
Meteorite > Wartornado > Fill with Flame Wave > Wartornado > Fill with Flame Wave > Meteorite > Wartornado > Fill with Flame Wave ...


P.s.: Another thing that's an overall issue is the need to cast individually party buffs, make it to cast on all party members once we cast in ourselfs, in this case for mages: Enchant Weapon and Magic Source.

 

 

 

[wtrab209b 57]

6 hours ago, buSalem said:

yh its good u r not staff you think characters lvl 16x with 144 equipments should be distort mules in sw ????

 

The hell you saying ? A 15x Prs with 14x gears is also considered a tank mule. When someone said he's a Prs main in this server people laugh at him.

Also, if you're that into pvp, you don't invest your money and time in Mgs, play other classes that are actually good at pvp. This is old mmorpg, each class has their own strong areas. 

[buSalem 42]

48 minutes ago, wtrab209b said:

 

The hell you saying ? A 15x Prs with 14x gears is also considered a tank mule. When someone said he's a Prs main in this server people laugh at him.

Also, if you're that into pvp, you don't invest your money and time in Mgs, play other classes that are actually good at pvp. This is old mmorpg, each class has their own strong areas. 

u seem like a mage hater.. what was wrong with mgs in pvp pre patch?there were 5 mgs at top 10 pvp rankings? nothing will every justify for the pvp nerfs .. pve u all can cry and say was broken even when it isnt cz mage needed another char to tank for him.. and there is a difference between priest and mage ,, most of prs kit is supporting skills.. mage kit full of dmging skill and one crowd control skill just like all other killing classes in game.

[wtrab209b 57]

14 minutes ago, buSalem said:

there were 5 mgs at top 10 pvp rankings? 

 maybe this is why mgs need the nerf ? 

[buSalem 42]

Just now, wtrab209b said:

 maybe this is why mgs need the nerf ? 

that was a sarcastic question also where is ur logic here? ?

[xkintaro 1,759]

all classes were nerfed in pvp, of all classes only 3 or 4 were nerfed and buffed in pvp in some skill, no pvp mage still the same, good.

 

in pve you guys, have fallen from the god level, to the normal level, just like other classes. still the best class for SOD perhaps?

[buSalem 42]

8 minutes ago, xkintaro said:

all classes were nerfed in pvp, of all classes only 3 or 4 were nerfed and buffed in pvp in some skill, no pvp mage still the same, good.

 

in pve you guys, have fallen from the god level, to the normal level, just like other classes. still the best class for SOD perhaps?

nah what was supposed to happed is buff all the classes to make them equal in pve if thats what u all feeling.. and nerf ONLY one hit kill skills in pvp like bs comet WHICH STILL  1 HIT KILL with 2.5-3k DMG HELLO @Support,, and ms T5 thats all.. all other nerfs sooo unnecessary and makes u sleepy while pvp .. next siege war 3 hours maybe with all the dmg nerfs. SOD is not SW both are different game mode that has nothing to interfere with each other. SOD is exploited by some mages to score high by having many pilots buff them and lure for them and mage kill only to score high WHICH IS BORING!!.....and OFC SW is the most important mode for competitive high lvl players!! 

 

anyways I am done explaining to mage haters... u guys just dont wana see me in bc and I get it I have been like the bone in ur throats..

 

I will wait for GM to see if they hotfix before I just move somewhere else.