xkintaro 1,759 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, buSalem said: nah what was supposed to happed is buff all the classes to make them equal in pve if thats what u all feeling.. and nerf ONLY one hit kill skills in pvp like bs comet WHICH STILL 1 HIT KILL with 2.5-3k DMG HELLO @Support,, and ms T5 thats all.. all other nerfs sooo unnecessary and makes u sleepy while pvp .. next siege war 3 hours maybe with all the dmg nerfs. SOD is not SW both are different game mode that has nothing to interfere with each other. SOD is exploited by some mages to score high by having many pilots buff them and lure for them and mage kill only to score high WHICH IS BORING!!.....and OFC SW is the most important mode for competitive high lvl players!! anyways I am done explaining to mage haters... u guys just dont wana see me in bc and I get it I have been like the bone in ur throats.. I will wait for GM to see if they hotfix before I just move somewhere else. im not mage hater ahahaha i have one, you're a little out of control, okay np Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Vodka- 665 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 The wizard was perfect the way he was, however some greedy players always complained. Now stick your fingers in your .. and cry you hypocrites ! 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wtrab209b 57 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 5 hours ago, buSalem said: I will wait for GM to see if they hotfix before I just move somewhere else. "I won't eat my vegetable if you don't buy me ice cream Daddy i'm mad" Mage was good, he's still good. Not a god anymore but still pretty good compared to most of other classes. Btw people couldn't care less if you play or anything, are you 12 ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buSalem 42 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, wtrab209b said: "I won't eat my vegetable if you don't buy me ice cream Daddy i'm mad" Mage was good, he's still good. Not a god anymore but still pretty good compared to most of other classes. Btw people couldn't care less if you play or anything, are you 12 ? u seem to have personal issue with me for no reason? even tho no one talk to you? I didnt post this for a non factor like u. you can go look for attention elsewhere now kid. Edited July 14, 2021 by buSalem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Overlady 5,233 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 Magician still in a good spot PVE wise, and better than any other class, but we will try to rework the DoC animation soon to make it faster. The PvP balance is not final, and it is just a prologue for Gladiator Project meant to test how the new items will affect the gameplay. 5 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buSalem 42 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 53 minutes ago, Overlady said: Magician still in a good spot PVE wise, and better than any other class, but we will try to rework the DoC animation soon to make it faster. The PvP balance is not final, and it is just a prologue for Gladiator Project meant to test how the new items will affect the gameplay. Thanks for the Answer.. Your clarifications is sincerely appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Vodka- 665 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Overlady said: Magician still in a good spot PVE wise, and better than any other class, but we will try to rework the DoC animation soon to make it faster. The PvP balance is not final, and it is just a prologue for Gladiator Project meant to test how the new items will affect the gameplay. Thanks ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ik3r 895 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Overlady said: Magician still in a good spot PVE wise, and better than any other class, but we will try to rework the DoC animation soon to make it faster. The PvP balance is not final, and it is just a prologue for Gladiator Project meant to test how the new items will affect the gameplay. As you saw, MGS is the better char in PVE, have plans to change this? They are the best char in PVE since DIQ in map 132 lol. I know, in pvp mgs need a buff, but in PVE is not fair this class be top for 10 years lol 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luispingu2 15 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 37 minutes ago, ik3r said: Como você viu, MGS é o melhor personagem em PVE, tem planos para mudar isso? Eles são os melhores char em PVE desde DIQ no mapa 132 lol. Eu sei, em pvp mgs preciso de um buff, mas em PVE não é justo essa classe ficar no topo por 10 anos rs. just look at the hero's base, he was created to be the best of the pve, it should be even better, what they could do is improve the others a little so as not to be as far behind as they did with the assassin now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keshy 1,385 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Overlady said: Magician still in a good spot PVE wise, and better than any other class, but we will try to rework the DoC animation soon to make it faster. The PvP balance is not final, and it is just a prologue for Gladiator Project meant to test how the new items will affect the gameplay. new itens? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luispingu2 15 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 now the magician doesn't need to be the best in pvp, he just must be viable or kill even with all his low precision or tank, one thing or another, what's not possible is to be useless 1 minute ago, Keshy said: novos itens? (͡ ° ͜ʖ ͡ °) " relics = itens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ik3r 895 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, luispingu2 said: just look at the hero's base, he was created to be the best of the pve, it should be even better, what they could do is improve the others a little so as not to be as far behind as they did with the assassin now. i think staff dont want buff other char in PVE to kill like MGS because exp will increase alot, idk, but i think staff dont want all players making 1,1tri + per hour Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keshy 1,385 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, luispingu2 said: now the magician doesn't need to be the best in pvp, he just must be viable or kill even with all his low precision or tank, one thing or another, what's not possible is to be useless relics = itens. ༼ つ ಥ_ಥ ༽つ ok Edited July 14, 2021 by Keshy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buSalem 42 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, ik3r said: i think staff dont want buff other char in PVE to kill like MGS because exp will increase alot, idk, but i think staff dont want all players making 1,1tri + per hour mage dont make 1.1 tri/h anymore 800b last i heared Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ik3r 895 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 1 minute ago, buSalem said: mage dont make 1.1 tri/h anymore 800b last i heared mgs afk players can do 800, pt without AFK players make more then 1.1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luispingu2 15 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 let's face it that mage isn't as good as they say in pve, auto mech can be much superior with a tank, and was buffed. besides being extremely broken with another build and 1 reset scroll in bc. ? 7 top level mechanics. (Top 1 went from mechanic and changed to fs) and in the pvp rank the lead is a mechanic, and just open the mechanic KDA besides killing doesn't die, but it didn't take nerf as severe as mage and besides it was buffed some abilities , the wizard's buff was fireball, seems to be a joke. I have a slightly crazy suggestion but very similar to what was done, nerf fireball for 1% damage and bubble buff for 83% lol haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,760 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 19 minutes ago, luispingu2 said: let's face it that mage isn't as good as they say in pve, auto mech can be much superior with a tank, and was buffed. is that so? as far as i know automation was decresead... a meaningless nerf, but, buffed? Besides, ignoring PvP for now, since overlady already said it's not final and just a start for project gladiator. lets check mage strengths: -Third best tanker of PvE, only behind Ks and Ms. -Second best suport of Game, only behind Priest. -Arguable the best AoE of the game: the only character that might be close to mage would be FS with cyclone+ RoZ or assassin poison+burning, but still, even if they can reach the same dps, their area and defense is no where close to mage. -Third best Class for 1x1: he is behind Atalanta, but, auto ms? auto ms without divine force and fire elemental enchant is no where close to mage, my mage 148 was outdpsing my ms 160 before the nerf, even full buff. Now, even with that nerf, my auto ms still need elemental enchant to out dps my mage. and don't ignore that he can do it with an AoE skill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luispingu2 15 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said: é assim mesmo? Pelo que eu sei, a automação foi diminuída ... um nerf sem sentido, mas, polido? Além disso, ignorando o PvP por enquanto, uma vez que a overlady já disse que não é final e apenas um começo para o projeto gladiador. vamos verificar as forças do mago: -Terceiro melhor tanker de PvE , atrás apenas de Ks e Ms. -Segundo melhor suporte do Game, atrás apenas do Priest. -Discutível o melhor AoE do jogo: o único personagem que pode estar perto do mago seria FS com ciclone + RoZ ou veneno assassino + queima, mas ainda assim, mesmo se eles puderem atingir os mesmos dps, sua área e defesa não estão nem perto para mago. -Terceira melhor classe para 1x1: ele está atrás da Atalanta, mas, auto ms? auto ms sem força divina e fogo elemental enchant não está nem perto de mago, meu mago 148 estava superando meu ms 160 antes do nerf, mesmo buff completo. Agora, mesmo com aquele nerf, meu auto ms ainda precisa de enchant elemental para derrotar meu mago. e não ignore que ele pode fazer isso com uma habilidade AoE . it wasn't a criticism of automech itself, but the mechanic as a whole, in his builds variables he manages to be the best in everything, but ngm sees him taking strong nerfs, only small adjustments, more buffs than nerfs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,760 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, luispingu2 said: it wasn't a criticism of automech itself, but the mechanic as a whole, in his builds variables he manages to be the best in everything, but ngm sees him taking strong nerfs, only small adjustments, more buffs than nerfs. alright, best tanker and maybe best on pvp, but he is not the best on SoD, it's mage, not the best aoe, mage again, he can't suppot, mage can, and Auto Ms needs both priest and mage support to be better than mage on 1x1, also, he is behind Atalanta. If you think Ms deserve a nerf, well, so do Mage, since mage is still top tier PvE. just one more thing, no, i don't think mage need any other nerf, meteorite or wartornado would be interesting to buff to make mage a bit more engaging to play, since as it's now, both skills are still underwhelming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EliPortela 147 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 This topic should be used to reflect on the stupidity you did when complaining about the mage before maintenance. As much as you are dissatisfied, you can lose even more than that. Better to learn the lesson of shutting up when necessary. You guys should be silent for a while before someone starts comparing mages to other classes and you get another nerf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buSalem 42 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, EliPortela said: This topic should be used to reflect on the stupidity you did when complaining about the mage before maintenance. As much as you are dissatisfied, you can lose even more than that. Better to learn the lesson of shutting up when necessary. You guys should be silent for a while before someone starts comparing mages to other classes and you get another nerf. who complained about mage before maintenace?! one or two mages? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EliPortela 147 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, buSalem said: who complained about mage before maintenace?! one or two mages? Man, you have no idea how noisy one mage or two can be on this server. I'm just saying. Take a look at this and see for yourself: Edited July 14, 2021 by EliPortela 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buSalem 42 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 15 minutes ago, EliPortela said: Man, you have no idea how noisy one mage or two can be on this server. I'm just saying. Take a look at this and see for yourself: he cant be serious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EliPortela 147 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, buSalem said: he cant be serious He wasn't kidding, bro... he wasn't kidding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyr 43 Report post Posted July 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Overlady said: Magician still in a good spot PVE wise, and better than any other class, but we will try to rework the DoC animation soon to make it faster. The PvP balance is not final, and it is just a prologue for Gladiator Project meant to test how the new items will affect the gameplay. Could you please put Meteorite with a 14s CD to work better with Wartornado and increase dmg acoord.? And make Enchant Weapon and Magic Source to work like FoN does so we don't need to cast multiple times during lvling? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites