Archer feedback (Patch 5230)

[kenibok 1,059]

1 hour ago, Overlady said:

Hey there,

We will revert some changes we did for Archer, tank you for your feedback.

 

Thank you for being here guys, reading these topics

Please remember archer's got many many huge huge nerfs (I think we're in the limit to not useful), currently as has got only 2 skills for PvP with basically the same damage, maybe 3 if we count Leap Shot (but risk reward not worth).

 

 

[mukrg 25]

The most unffair thing is: We as archers/atas need to go pure to match damage with melees. So, in the end, we give away our chance to tank (PVP/PVE) so we could be as powerfull as they are, regardless them not waving any % of their tanking abilities.

 

Going pure should be an option to those who don't care about being one-hit-killed and prefer the high damage instead of having any defense ability, not a necessity so we can exp without being cast away of parties for low dmg.

[kenibok 1,059]

3 hours ago, wolf0119 said:

 

The potential of the char has not been exploited to the fullest, we still need to know the gems and relics, I think it is good to keep the changes in pvp for the moment, until we know how they will affect the performance of pvp

 

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Players, try to see the big picture

 

But.. this is not true, I could use this argument for every class, obviously relics are not exclusive to archer, they can be used by all classes and they all will benefit from them. The truth is that today we don't see any class full potential: this is the real big picture, and probably hitkillers (ass/ps) and magic classes will benefit more than anyone.

1 hour ago, mukrg said:

The most unffair thing is: We as archers/atas need to go pure to match damage with melees. So, in the end, we give away our chance to tank (PVP/PVE) so we could be as powerfull as they are, regardless them not waving any % of their tanking abilities.

 

Going pure should be an option to those who don't care about being one-hit-killed and prefer the high damage instead of having any defense ability, not a necessity so we can exp without being cast away of parties for low dmg.

 

This is also very true, even now people don't really see it, but PVE SS was made as a melee map, with all the adjustments made, its now a tank+killer map, and of course it has many pvp disadvantages/advantages too but anyways, that's a whole other topic

[wolf0119 267]

11 minutes ago, kenibok said:

 

Pero ... esto no es cierto, podría usar este argumento para cada clase, obviamente las reliquias no son exclusivas del arquero,  pueden ser utilizadas por todas las clases  y todas se beneficiarán de ellas. La verdad es que hoy en día no vemos ningún potencial de clase completo: este es el panorama general real, y probablemente los asesinos a golpes (ass / ps) y las clases de magia se beneficiarán más que nadie.

It is not the same to enhance the attack of an archer than that of another class
As it is not the same to enhance the defense of a ks than that of another class

3 hours ago, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said:

No creo BC va a estar bien para ir por 1 año más o menos, tulla da 297 caballos de fuerza , y idk si se puede aumentar furhter con VL , y todavía tenemos crit res reliquias, reliquias de penetración, evadir reliquias, runas de estado , aretes y tal vez cinturones?

la diferencia de poder será inmensa hasta que muchos jugadores puedan acceder a todos esos elementos

that's true, over time they will be more accessible to everyone, if he no  balance now, they will have to do when everyone has the relics

 

In the same way, I think it is early to ask for changes, the update is only a week old, it has not even happened sw after the balance.

[kenibok 1,059]

Hi @Overlady @Senpai I just noticed there was also a nerf here, not noted on the patch list

 

 

I know you said you have a plan, I trust you just please remember archer's defense ability is evasion only, archer don't have block like atalanta, don't have absorb, has the lowest hp and her defense is basically ignorable. This buff-debuff is already a bit intense considering its costs -40% total rtg, x2 stm usage, cancels perforation, but was ok as it was

 

I know Kryon is a fantastic player (the best pvp player imo) but a class balance cannot be based on one player, even when there's many haters; he's a very good player that would probably make any class seem OP

Edited July 17, 2021 by kenibok
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