[BALANCE] PIKEMAN ++ BLESS AREAS

[l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l 0]

The point is that pike is now useless.

 

A joke in the SOD

Horrible to UP (very hard to get PT)

Bad for Hunt

And the only area that was good (PVP) is now horrible.

 

The game is not just PvP, and what problem the class has a great skill for this area of the game.

Do the delay longer, so the skill can not be used all the time, but please do not destroy the skill.

 

Pris has many advantages in UP, and Mech, Archer and ATA has many advantages in the hunt and it does not bother anyone.

Mechs can be in any Exp map without even losing HP and it is not modified.

 

Why the balance has to be only in PVP?

 

Even with the improvement, tornado ​with the cyclone strike are still the worst AOE skill of game.

[aroma_AGAIN 0]

The point is that pike is now useless.

 

A joke in the SOD

Horrible to UP (very hard to get PT)

Bad for Hunt

And the only area that was good (PVP) is now horrible.

 

The game is not just PvP, and what problem the class has a great skill for this area of the game.

Do the delay longer, so the skill can not be used all the time, but please do not destroy the skill.

 

Pris has many advantages in UP, and Mech, Archer and ATA has many advantages in the hunt and it does not bother anyone.

Mechs can be in any Exp map without even losing HP and it is not modified.

 

Because the balance has to be only in PVP?

 

Even with the improvement, tornado ​with the cyclone strike are still the worst AOE skill of game.

 

If pristontale is not only PVP why u crying about CS? Pikeman still good in AOE and HUNT

 

Oh come tell me ps AOE is not good? try to exp with mech or FS!

[GuiBitencourt 0]

If pristontale is not only PVP why u crying about CS? Pikeman still good in AOE and HUNT

 

Oh come tell me ps AOE is not good? try to exp with mech or FS!

 

This topic is about pikeman, not mech.

Focus in discussion.

 

The point is that pike is now useless.

 

A joke in the SOD

Horrible to UP (very hard to get PT)

Bad for Hunt

And the only area that was good (PVP) is now horrible.

 

The game is not just PvP, and what problem the class has a great skill for this area of the game.

Do the delay longer, so the skill can not be used all the time, but please do not destroy the skill.

 

Pris has many advantages in UP, and Mech, Archer and ATA has many advantages in the hunt and it does not bother anyone.

Mechs can be in any Exp map without even losing HP and it is not modified.

 

Because the balance has to be only in PVP?

 

Even with the improvement, tornado ​with the cyclone strike are still the worst AOE skill of game.

 

Thanks God, someone smart here.

U told everything dude.

[l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l 0]

The point is that pike is now useless.

 

A joke in the SOD

Horrible to UP (very hard to get PT)

Bad for Hunt

And the only area that was good (PVP) is now horrible.

 

The game is not just PvP, and what problem the class has a great skill for this area of the game.

Do the delay longer, so the skill can not be used all the time, but please do not destroy the skill.

 

Pris has many advantages in UP, and Mech, Archer and ATA has many advantages in the hunt and it does not bother anyone.

Mechs can be in any Exp map without even losing HP and it is not modified.

 

Why the balance has to be only in PVP?

 

Even with the improvement, tornado ​with the cyclone strike are still the worst AOE skill of game.

 

If pristontale is not only PVP why u crying about CS? Pikeman still good in AOE and HUNT

 

Oh come tell me ps AOE is not good? try to exp with mech or FS!

 

Compared with the skills of other classes (except FS), Yes, AOE pike is not good.

If it was good, it would be very easy to get PT.

And no one would see in the game "1 slot AD1 (NO PS / FS)"

[topher 0]

I couldn't test too much, but it's seems a bit weak now, but CS is good. We could boost Shadow Master just a little to make it more useful, and will be great.

CS now is something to catch up distracted people, and that's how it supposed to be, I guess. In 1x1 fight is not a such good thing now, and that's why I suggested to boost little bit Shadow Master, which would give to the pikemen a skill as good as Divine Piercing and destroyer is.

[elk24 0]

The point is that pike is now useless.

 

A joke in the SOD

Horrible to UP (very hard to get PT)

Bad for Hunt

And the only area that was good (PVP) is now horrible.

 

The game is not just PvP, and what problem the class has a great skill for this area of the game.

Do the delay longer, so the skill can not be used all the time, but please do not destroy the skill.

 

Pris has many advantages in UP, and Mech, Archer and ATA has many advantages in the hunt and it does not bother anyone.

Mechs can be in any Exp map without even losing HP and it is not modified.

 

Why the balance has to be only in PVP?

 

Even with the improvement, tornado ​with the cyclone strike are still the worst AOE skill of game.

 

If pristontale is not only PVP why u crying about CS? Pikeman still good in AOE and HUNT

 

Oh come tell me ps AOE is not good? try to exp with mech or FS!

 

Compared with the skills of other classes (except FS), Yes, AOE pike is not good.

If it was good, it would be very easy to get PT.

And no one would see in the game "1 slot AD1 (NO PS / FS)"

 

first, of all stop talking in bold letters,

 

second of all. CS can still Kill, just not the 99% 1 hit KO rate as before. I tried it out briefly before the server went down. I can still 1 hit KO people without a shield pretty easily. With a shield same lvl or high is a bit difficult.

 

AND THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE.

 

CS is suppose to a skill to catch players off guard, get it "off guard"? no shield? Pun? A 130 Pike isnt suppose to 1 hit KO a 135 Ft with 120 +20 shield and 1.6K hp.

 

as for hunting. Pike is awesome now, basicly all crts, High AR, and good evasion and block.

 

exping wise its still better than Mech and FT so stop complaing there are alot more classes with much more serious problems.

 

just because Pike is not Op anymore doesn't give u the right to complain endless about every little deal that you dun like about Pikes

[punkrocke 0]

pikes are used to hv the 1hko OP skill, so now that they dont hv it anymore it seems like they suck and maybe they do and they need some more work, but i also think this is the first of the many fixes that the pikeman is going to have in order to find the right balance

 

but the truth is that no class should hv a 1hko skill cause they are not giving the other classes the chance to defend and fight back and actually engage a 1vs1 combat. now, if u only want to kill players without a chance of retaliation then thats ur problem i u should solve it with urself cause 1hko skill cannot happend for obvious reasons

 

im only pointing out the 1hko CS issue because even though there are some more points in other comments, between lines u can see them complaining about 1hko

[l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l 0]

The point is that pike is now useless.

 

A joke in the SOD

Horrible to UP (very hard to get PT)

Bad for Hunt

And the only area that was good (PVP) is now horrible.

 

The game is not just PvP, and what problem the class has a great skill for this area of the game.

Do the delay longer, so the skill can not be used all the time, but please do not destroy the skill.

 

Pris has many advantages in UP, and Mech, Archer and ATA has many advantages in the hunt and it does not bother anyone.

Mechs can be in any Exp map without even losing HP and it is not modified.

 

Why the balance has to be only in PVP?

 

Even with the improvement, tornado ​with the cyclone strike are still the worst AOE skill of game.

 

If pristontale is not only PVP why u crying about CS? Pikeman still good in AOE and HUNT

 

Oh come tell me ps AOE is not good? try to exp with mech or FS!

 

Compared with the skills of other classes (except FS), Yes, AOE pike is not good.

If it was good, it would be very easy to get PT.

And no one would see in the game "1 slot AD1 (NO PS / FS)"

 

first, of all stop talking in bold letters,

 

second of all. CS can still Kill, just not the 99% 1 hit KO rate as before. I tried it out briefly before the server went down. I can still 1 hit KO people without a shield pretty easily. With a shield same lvl or high is a bit difficult.

 

AND THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE.

 

CS is suppose to a skill to catch players off guard, get it "off guard"? no shield? Pun? A 130 Pike isnt suppose to 1 hit KO a 135 Ft with 120 +20 shield and 1.6K hp.

 

as for hunting. Pike is awesome now, basicly all crts, High AR, and good evasion and block.

 

exping wise its still better than Mech and FT so stop complaing there are alot more classes with much more serious problems.

 

just because Pike is not Op anymore doesn't give u the right to complain endless about every little deal that you dun like about Pikes

 

You're not the moderator to tell me how I should or should not write in the forum.

If a moderator wants, I change.

 

And Mech with spark and MA is much better on UP than tornado.

 

Nobody does pike for UP / SOD / HUNT. Everybody builds for PVP.

 

The only thing I think is that they killed the class, and the rest of the PS server will end up changing to another class.

[aroma_AGAIN 0]

The point is that pike is now useless.

 

A joke in the SOD

Horrible to UP (very hard to get PT)

Bad for Hunt

And the only area that was good (PVP) is now horrible.

 

The game is not just PvP, and what problem the class has a great skill for this area of the game.

Do the delay longer, so the skill can not be used all the time, but please do not destroy the skill.

 

Pris has many advantages in UP, and Mech, Archer and ATA has many advantages in the hunt and it does not bother anyone.

Mechs can be in any Exp map without even losing HP and it is not modified.

 

Why the balance has to be only in PVP?

 

Even with the improvement, tornado ​with the cyclone strike are still the worst AOE skill of game.

 

If pristontale is not only PVP why u crying about CS? Pikeman still good in AOE and HUNT

 

Oh come tell me ps AOE is not good? try to exp with mech or FS!

 

Compared with the skills of other classes (except FS), Yes, AOE pike is not good.

If it was good, it would be very easy to get PT.

And no one would see in the game "1 slot AD1 (NO PS / FS)"

 

first, of all stop talking in bold letters,

 

second of all. CS can still Kill, just not the 99% 1 hit KO rate as before. I tried it out briefly before the server went down. I can still 1 hit KO people without a shield pretty easily. With a shield same lvl or high is a bit difficult.

 

AND THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE.

 

CS is suppose to a skill to catch players off guard, get it "off guard"? no shield? Pun? A 130 Pike isnt suppose to 1 hit KO a 135 Ft with 120 +20 shield and 1.6K hp.

 

as for hunting. Pike is awesome now, basicly all crts, High AR, and good evasion and block.

 

exping wise its still better than Mech and FT so stop complaing there are alot more classes with much more serious problems.

 

just because Pike is not Op anymore doesn't give u the right to complain endless about every little deal that you dun like about Pikes

 

You're not the moderator to tell me how I should or should not write in the forum.

If a moderator wants, I change.

And Mech with spark and MA is much better on UP than tornado.

 

Nobody does pike for UP / SOD / HUNT. Everybody builds for PVP.

 

The only thing I think is that they killed the class, and the rest of the PS server will end up changing to another class.

 

 

This guy really know what he is talking about? i really laugh on this one

 

How the hell SPARK in what world is better them tornado , are u sure u have a pikeman?

 

I cant argu with people who say something like that

[Edgardo 0]

Hey Gui,

 

Let's try to build something positive like you said before.

 

I'd like to ask you if you tried CL + persistence.

 

How a Cl affects a 130-14- knight-pike-archer-mage-mech-FS?

 

Thanks in advance.

[QMan 0]

old in the past >

problem is pike 12x can kill any char 13x-14x with 1 CS

i am agree it need to balance same like mech(maximize)

 

but

am i said in another topic

it's huge changed

 

and

now my worrying it's happening?

it still unbalancing?

from over power to non power??

 

mech will same as pike go to noob char again?

(congret to pike u are first time to noob char but mech are long time ago..)

just many time and many player to re-test(Pike-Mech)...this patch

 

as all know

maybe only knight can tank and kill with 2-hand weapon

Mech tanker char cant

it so sad

 

with 2 hand weapon

with old patch Mech can kill but cant tank(kill fast die fast)

with new patch if Mech cant kill and cant tank....

what does it mean?...

Mech should not be use 2-hand weapon right??

 

 

 

[Zinn~ 0]

Sorry but CS wont change anymore!

 

 

Pikemans were just BULLSHIT on bless castle .

 

Killing everyone with 1 HIT KO .

 

What pikemans still need is more atk rating ! To get more hits but CS wont back to normal never cuz ppl just know bsb with it!

 

 

Pikemans need to learn pvp like everybody else

 

1 hit KO is already difficult, imagine now!

 

 

if not revised this Wartale BB.

ps the rest do not care, but end up with CS may take the class Pikeman the server!

 

> >

[ziLd 0]

First of all, this is what i think after i tested in game, so, I'm trying to "build" a positive review to help staff to get to the real balance.

 

What I think about the changes?

 

 

I read the changes that have been posted in the patch 3217, found that would be great, i agreed at first time, but when i tested it in game, the surprise,

the class was ruined, tanking better, but doesn't kill ANYTHING. I am a pike 134, +20 120 wp, I can not even kill a char 12x.

 

Cl is better, but it is a skill that has an animation longer, while you use the cl against another char, (knight or fighter) they use 2 skills against you, because they are faster. Moreover, Pikes did not use one-handed weapons, so, we need to have an advantage.

 

Changing vanish and cs at the same time took the main features of the class (the essence),  the class is dead. The pikes were never the problem, but the pvp that allowed the hit and runners and this patch fixed this with the new areas.

 

U guys (staff) are trying to balance classes, i know that,  but this time you have corossed the line, exaggerated and destroyed a class, I totally missed the pleasure of playing, I can now say that I no longer want to open the game and I'll probably stay that way until there is some change.

 

Hope u guys understand my point, its not a whining, it's what i think after tested in game.

 

+1 to this...

 

about old cs, thats the way it suppose to be bout pikes! does anyone get the point bout that? coz pikes are suppose to be assasins, not tankers!

 

forgive me for the anti-ppls ;D

[GuiBitencourt 0]

Hey Gui,

 

Let's try to build something positive like you said before.

 

I'd like to ask you if you tried CL + persistence.

 

How a Cl affects a 130-14- knight-pike-archer-mage-mech-FS?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Yes, i tried x1 vs. Pike same lvl, Fs same lvl, mech and knight. CL didn't kill anyone.

Cl is better, but not enought to kill 13x fully 120+20, and ice has a **** delay now, even at lvl 1.

I tried almost 50cs, only 3 bps, most of them in 12x chars.

If this is balance, i'm worried about it.

[Qwertronic 0]

They should at least make a useful T4 attacking skill. Lvl 10 CL killed off lvl 10 SM with 55% dmg boost but 66% dmg boost now? SM is completely useless. CS at 100% dmg boost and slower charging rate, who the hell is gonna use that when you can just CL twice?

[hirata 1]

Pike should be the best char in PvP and now is the worst. "But now Pike can hunt better... bla bla bla". Tell me who creates pike to hunt.. I'm not pike, but It's wrong. Pike is a PvP char, and need Vanish and CS to kill. Without these skills, they're nothing. So, now pikes are nothing and it's all right? Selfishness that seems to me.

[zoobgames 0]

Sorry but CS wont change anymore!

 

 

Pikemans were just BULLSHIT on bless castle .

 

Killing everyone with 1 HIT KO .

 

What pikemans still need is more atk rating ! To get more hits but CS wont back to normal never cuz ppl just know bsb with it!

 

 

Pikemans need to learn pvp like everybody else

 

what is the advantage of Pikeman now?

ps why has no block,no def,the only benefit is critical. :-X

[hide 1]

 

 

btw pikeman has a skill called ShadowMustard right? it can't kill?

[QMan 0]

No ps isnt the best char in pvp

Pike can be best in 1 hit KO

 

But am i saw pike 12x can kill 14x its should be?

[unrealpower 0]

Just don't CS anymore that skill is useless use CL is better + faster.

 

 

The one who say:  Tornado > spark        Tornado with a pike = 600 pots  (5%)we just cannot tank) Mech = 0 hp pots and spark all the time.

Mech trains a lot easier he can tank prs go with him ice meteor you see it everywhere. Mech + Prs.           

 

If you come to a party as pikeman they say TEMP they see a other char = kick...

 

 

[l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l 0]

Just don't CS anymore that skill is useless use CL is better + faster.

 

 

The one who say:  Tornado > spark        Tornado with a pike = 600 pots  (5%)we just cannot tank) Mech = 0 hp pots and spark all the time.

Mech trains a lot easier he can tank prs go with him ice meteor you see it everywhere. Mech + Prs.           

 

If you come to a party as pikeman they say TEMP they see a other char = kick...

 

Exactly.

That's what many do not understand. It is a waste of time to improve the Tornado, Because Pikes can not train. They can not tank, do not have enough defense or abs for it. In almost all partys, pikes are leeches.

Spark > Tornado, simply because the mech can use it, and in the end train much faster than the Pike.

[meeks 0]

Just don't CS anymore that skill is useless use CL is better + faster.

 

 

The one who say:  Tornado > spark        Tornado with a pike = 600 pots  (5%)we just cannot tank) Mech = 0 hp pots and spark all the time.

Mech trains a lot easier he can tank prs go with him ice meteor you see it everywhere. Mech + Prs.           

 

If you come to a party as pikeman they say TEMP they see a other char = kick...

 

Exactly.

That's what many do not understand. It is a waste of time to improve the Tornado, Because Pikes can not train. They can not tank, do not have enough defense or abs for it. In almost all partys, pikes are leeches.

Spark > Tornado, simply because the mech can use it, and in the end train much faster than the Pike.

 

if u know old ept style u would know that everyone had to go for lower lvl maps to xp faster...

xp maps fruit up the server as i said about a thousand times...

improve xp on hunt maps and pikes/fighter would be very good for all partys...

[Kaduzinn 0]

If before it was almost impossible to gain x1 cs, minutes, fs, ms

now then not to mention who and will not bc more Pikeman

I'm a shit

> >

[idanqwe 0]

Lol now all pikes are crying..

 

All this time that 115 pike could 1shot 125-130 characters they were silent

[elk24 0]

Just don't CS anymore that skill is useless use CL is better + faster.

 

 

The one who say:  Tornado > spark        Tornado with a pike = 600 pots  (5%)we just cannot tank) Mech = 0 hp pots and spark all the time.

Mech trains a lot easier he can tank prs go with him ice meteor you see it everywhere. Mech + Prs.           

 

If you come to a party as pikeman they say TEMP they see a other char = kick...

 

do u see 1 fighter crying about exping? no? Ok... so u should be quiet too..

 

fact of the matter is. Pike is still not the WORST at anything. and still can do more damage than any class in PVP,

It has its Pros and Cons just like any class now...Thats called balance ok?