What's the point...

[tommylizard 1]

 

Sure they do. But we do not want to raise the difference even more between these two classes and the rest. Otherwise, we would give Mechs 300% Boost at Maximize because they are already the best at PvP and that wouldn't change that.

@off-topic: I've been here for a long time too, Atalantas have been nerfed a lot, and when they get (if they get) these tons of speed, they will be nerfed even more, so don't worry 'bout that.

 

You're exaggerating, but I can live with that anyway.

 

The point isn't really about adding AOE damage and being more powerful... is just about making the skill useful If you have an whole new concept to suggest, please do it. I'm one of those knights tired of complaints and whining about AD2 and undead

 

@off-topic: yeah atalantas had a big nerf on PvP, and that needs to be fixed. It's not like I play knight and for knights only. I'm not one of those "want my class to be the best and you all to suck".

 

Yea I also think Undead Bane is pretty useless. But I still don't think Knights need any improvement in their AoE.

[Rehv 0]

IMO

 

If it's possible change Undead Bane to active skill instead passive one and if possible also make it add attack power to party members like Holy Valor/Divine Aura (PRS), then not only KS will be benefited. And all can gain this damage plus.

 

If the problem is only KS gain this help.

 

then Undead Bane is Holy Valor 2 ? No thx The resemblance is already too great...  :-\

 

Yea I also think Undead Bane is pretty useless. But I still don't think Knights need any improvement in their AoE.

I get your point, but again, AOE was only suggested because that would diff the skill from Holy Valor...  :-[

[DarkLink64 921]

Still, if Holy Valor works with 1v1 AND AoE, a lot of people will use it instead of Holy Body

 

 

Holy Body is the key that makes Knights a stone tank in AD

 

 

Also, Undead Bane working only for 1v1 is useless, just like the side effect of Holy Aura = Reducing Knight Defense from Drastic Spirit.

 

 

 

So, lets make Atalanta new speed increase but cut her ability to use shields too, lets see if the whinners against Knight will keep their mout shut.

[idanqwe 0]

Still, if Holy Valor works with 1v1 AND AoE, a lot of people will use it instead of Holy Body

 

 

Holy Body is the key that makes Knights a stone tank in AD

 

 

Also, Undead Bane working only for 1v1 is useless, just like the side effect of Holy Aura = Reducing Knight Defense from Drastic Spirit.

 

 

 

So, lets make Atalanta new speed increase but cut her ability to use shields too, lets see if the whinners against Knight will keep their mout shut.

Hey it reflects damage and just reduce the drastic spirit effectiveness.. atleast you can use both unlike mechs that cannot use Abs skill with Attack skill (which knight does with drastic and gods blessing) and unlike Fighters that get -Abs for using an Attack buff

[Rehv 0]

Still, if Holy Valor works with 1v1 AND AoE, a lot of people will use it instead of Holy Body

 

 

Holy Body is the key that makes Knights a stone tank in AD

 

 

Also, Undead Bane working only for 1v1 is useless, just like the side effect of Holy Aura = Reducing Knight Defense from Drastic Spirit.

 

 

 

So, lets make Atalanta new speed increase but cut her ability to use shields too, lets see if the whinners against Knight will keep their mout shut.

Hey it reflects damage and just reduce the drastic spirit effectiveness.. atleast you can use both unlike mechs that cannot use Abs skill with Attack skill (which knight does with drastic and gods blessing) and unlike Fighters that get -Abs for using an Attack buff

 

Hm so we'll reflect AD2 damage too. That's just nice... what happens with HB+DS+HA ? hahahaha

[DarkLink64 921]

I can't find any T5 skill that gives you a buff and at same time a debuff like Holy Aura. Skills like Stealth reduces your moving speed, but, it isn't important at all in comparison to full invisibility. Lowering our defense IS important. Either Holy Body, Holy Valor or "Undead Bane" are useless for PvP and any thing except undeands, so, it's a common sense that Drastic Spirit is the main active buff from Knights.

 

 

Just pointless. I have no doubt that those changes where made due to players biased args that, Knights are OP, the same drill as always.

 

 

It's kinda hard to say, but, Undead Bane, 1v1, its useless.

 

Psyche out. Totally.

 

 

[rye 0]

ks never OP, mech pike OP that is ture

i never see a knight place in pvp ranking top1

only mech & pike

its a useless skill if it does not work with AoE skill IMO, just like holy valor

[DarkLink64 921]

ks never OP, mech pike OP that is ture

i never see a knight place in pvp ranking top1

only mech & pike

its a useless skill if it does not work with AoE skill IMO, just like holy valor

 

Exactly, being just for 1v1 is pointless and useless.

 

And, i know every biased people here that influenced this nosense change on Undead Bane. But, i'll keep my mouth shut, coz i have much respect from Wartale, well, if he wants like that... All we can do is ask for something better

 

[Crius 0]

Look at it from the bright side; at least you got a skill similar to one from earlier tiers that stacks, instead of getting a skill from the earlier tiers moved to tier 5.

[DarkLink64 921]

I cant see any bright on this. Leveling it up - will have no effect at all. Where you can use 1v1 Undead Dmg except for Lost 1?

[Crius 0]

I meant to imply that it's not so bad when you compare it to how VL was handled. Worst case, you get one skill of questionable use that you can ignore. It's not really a problem unless you get at least one more useless skill.

[DarkLink64 921]

VL was nerfed due to PvP imbalance

 

Still i think VL hidden should work on PvE, but not on PvP

[easternheretic 0]

Still, we don't know if Wartale will make Flame Brandish or Lightning Sword

 

Only Wartale itself can answer us.

 

But this doesnt change the lack of point into Undead Bane being just for 1v1 and Holy Valor still bugged to not work on AoE.

 

Look at the front page.

 

http://www.realmpt.net/

[DarkLink64 921]

Sorry, but 3R R1 already answered us here that knight T5 will be Lightning sword

 

Ty anyway

[easternheretic 0]

Sorry, but 3R R1 already answered us here that knight T5 will be Lightning sword

 

Ty anyway

 

Well you were the one that kept trying to convince me it was brandish... after I told you what I saw.

 

 

[DarkLink64 921]

And your point is...?

 

This doesnt have anything to do with Undead Bane being almost useless.

[Photon 0]

You shouldn't look too much to the stats and attributes of locked skills. They aren't final

[DarkLink64 921]

But, hey Wartale... Undead Bane will keep 1v1 only? This is my focus here...

[MinJee 1]

Knight are rules everything after Pike and Mech nerf

[DarkLink64 921]

Indeed!

 

But, wait... Pike and Mech got awesome T5 skills. And Knights.... Not.

[tommylizard 1]

Then wait for T5 to be released, then balance things out.

[DarkLink64 921]

Then wait for T5 to be released, then balance things out.

 

There is "no" need to wait for changing a useless T5 skill, like Undead Bane.

 

 

[idanqwe 0]

Then wait for T5 to be released, then balance things out.

 

There is "no" need to wait for changing a useless T5 skill, like Undead Bane.

lol you think if you keep claim that T5 of knight is 'useless' then they'll think it is? or even change anything?

 

stop talking nonsense stuff, they changed Flame Brandish to an epic PvP skill so you can stop this "psychology war"

[DarkLink64 921]

Then wait for T5 to be released, then balance things out.

 

There is "no" need to wait for changing a useless T5 skill, like Undead Bane.

lol you think if you keep claim that T5 of knight is 'useless' then they'll think it is? or even change anything?

 

stop talking nonsense stuff, they changed Flame Brandish to an epic PvP skill so you can stop this "psychology war"

 

 

I'm not talking nosense, you just fail to show where Undead Bane 1v1 will be worth for something.

 

My thread talks about Undead Bane being 1v1 Undead dmg, not about other skill. Stop off-topic'ing.

[QMan 0]

ks never OP, mech pike OP that is ture

i never see a knight place in pvp ranking top1

only mech & pike

its a useless skill if it does not work with AoE skill IMO, just like holy valor

 

KS is OP and best char in Realmpt now

KS good training and almost high lv monster is undead

KS good pvp can tank and can kill

 

KS sure OP

what is KS weak for? pls tell to me...

(if sod score reset , ks will on top 10 at least 5)