Archer PVP

[mukrg 25]

Hi, guys!

 

So i recently changed class to AS and i'm finding it dificult to stablish a build for PVP.

 

Atm, im 160 full: armor 140 dnt +24, shield 140 +24, 142 bow +24, 138 bow +15 agility, brac hell bsol vitality, draxos bsol, greedy bsol, 2x triadic +1 AS perfect status set boss 3 dnt + 138 amulet 94hp etc..

 

I know that last patch really weakened us rangers in comparsion to melees atk rating (ish)/defense ability and atk pow, but still i think its very odd to die so easily as well equiped as i am (at lest i think im well equiped hahah). Plus, its VERY HARD to hit melees, like 5 or more ph shots to get their hp down a bit.

 

Status are the minimun needed to use the items,  150 vitality wich gives me more than 1,7k hp with VL and the rest on agility atk pow goes to 1,9k with sol force 

 

Should i change anything? Forget armor and go pure since ill be hit killed by anyone anyway? 

 

Thanks in advance ?

Edited March 29, 2022 by mukrg

[thichlam2010 157]

this patch is melee meta, ranger can't survive cause -def and can't kill cause -atk rating. Even you try amor 144 you can be dead by one crit Pike 4k-5k dmg :v 

[TigerShark22 488]

Armor isn't equal dmg reduction/hp, it makes ur enemies miss more on you.( It still reduces some dmg, but having more hp makes u survive a more powerful hit brute force wise, yet armor mostly makes u harder to hit).

 

Also:" deal a bit damage"- without armor, with hp +agi build, you have more damage than them, and can compete with some melees hp wise. with armor ofc you have less dmg, if u would have their brute force with armor, while maintaining more dmg, then why be a melee when as has insane evade, decent deff( stats), high AR, nice crit, , long range, running speed and brute force? 

 

Also:" very hard to hit melees" that's just not true, you have more AR compared to them, its just not broken as before, when melees would miss on you all day long, and u could completely ignore their deff.( They also miss a lot on u due to evade mostly, especially when going 1h, then as is barely hitable) .

 

Lastly, as isnt a tank, yet she's still a broken tank with her 1h evade. 

 

You might misunderstood as role, which is to be a glass cannon. Atm shes defiantly a cannon( most go cuepy, some summer and add points to hp+agi), but shes still not a glass.

 

 

This patch isn't melee meta, overall pvp balance, magic and rangers still have the edge ( just not completely broken as before, and Im counting SW/ team fights too).

Just now melees don't suck completely. You can even try them out like some as players did, some liked it and stayed melees, some switched back cause they found out they overstimated them.

Edited March 31, 2022 by TigerShark22

[mukrg 25]

On 3/30/2022 at 6:36 AM, thichlam2010 said:

this patch is melee meta, ranger can't survive cause -def and can't kill cause -atk rating. Even you try amor 144 you can be dead by one crit Pike 4k-5k dmg :v 

I felt that too hahha 

I'm mostly killed by pikes, yes.

4 hours ago, TigerShark22 said:

Armor isn't equal dmg reduction/hp, it makes ur enemies miss more on you.( It still reduces some dmg, but having more hp makes u survive a more powerful hit brute force wise, yet armor mostly makes u harder to hit).

 

Also:" deal a bit damage"- without armor, with hp +agi build, you have more damage than them, and can compete with some melees hp wise. with armor ofc you have less dmg, if u would have their brute force with armor, while maintaining more dmg, then why be a melee when as has insane evade, decent deff( stats), high AR, nice crit, , long range, running speed and brute force? 

 

Also:" very hard to hit melees" that's just not true, you have more AR compared to them, its just not broken as before, when melees would miss on you all day long, and u could completely ignore their deff.( They also miss a lot on u due to evade mostly, especially when going 1h, then as is barely hitable) .

 

Lastly, as isnt a tank, yet she's still a broken tank with her 1h evade. 

 

You might misunderstood as role, which is to be a glass cannon. Atm shes defiantly a cannon( most go cuepy, some summer and add points to hp+agi), but shes still not a glass.

 

 

This patch isn't melee meta, overall pvp balance, magic and rangers still have the edge ( just not completely broken as before, and Im counting SW/ team fights too).

Just now melees don't suck completely. You can even try them out like some as players did, some liked it and stayed melees, some switched back cause they found out they overstimated them.

Thanks for the insights about how armor works! It was very claryfing.

 

However when you say "that's just not true", i cant help but to feel a little ofended e thinking your're calling me a liar hahaha.

 

What i said is from my perspective as an AS player atm. So, yes, i find it hard to hit melees and thats very true, dear.

 

Pikes for exemple, very often, can tank a full party after hitting and start running w/ dodge on because most of the hits just dont go in.

 

Anyways, that was not my point at all but i apreciate your help  

 

 

[Canibal*0* 6]

- streght, + em agi and good game!

[HollyShot 967]

15 hours ago, TigerShark22 said:

Armor isn't equal dmg reduction/hp, it makes ur enemies miss more on you.( It still reduces some dmg, but having more hp makes u survive a more powerful hit brute force wise, yet armor mostly makes u harder to hit).

 

Also:" deal a bit damage"- without armor, with hp +agi build, you have more damage than them, and can compete with some melees hp wise. with armor ofc you have less dmg, if u would have their brute force with armor, while maintaining more dmg, then why be a melee when as has insane evade, decent deff( stats), high AR, nice crit, , long range, running speed and brute force? 

 

Also:" very hard to hit melees" that's just not true, you have more AR compared to them, its just not broken as before, when melees would miss on you all day long, and u could completely ignore their deff.( They also miss a lot on u due to evade mostly, especially when going 1h, then as is barely hitable) .

 

Lastly, as isnt a tank, yet she's still a broken tank with her 1h evade. 

 

You might misunderstood as role, which is to be a glass cannon. Atm shes defiantly a cannon( most go cuepy, some summer and add points to hp+agi), but shes still not a glass.

 

 

This patch isn't melee meta, overall pvp balance, magic and rangers still have the edge ( just not completely broken as before, and Im counting SW/ team fights too).

Just now melees don't suck completely. You can even try them out like some as players did, some liked it and stayed melees, some switched back cause they found out they overstimated them.

really, tell me who changed to melee and back to ranger babe

and why are u not using ranking as argument right now? maybe cuz in top 10 we have 4 pikes? or cuz last week the top 10 was 4 fs 4 ps 1 bs 1 ks?

 

@mukrg since last update rangers are garbage in pvp, you wont find a good build that let you strong enough to win vs a melee, don't try cuepy is just garbage, you will die easy and wont have enough damage, if you really want keep yr AS the best option is using armor with alot health and atk who is being atking by others, you wont be enough to kill someone alone. But tbh the best option is just change class, go for pike, fs or bs, if you are not one of these 3 classes you probably wont have much fun in bc.

[TigerShark22 488]

1 hour ago, HollyShot said:

really, tell me who changed to melee and back to ranger babe

and why are u not using ranking as argument right now? maybe cuz in top 10 we have 4 pikes? or cuz last week the top 10 was 4 fs 4 ps 1 bs 1 ks?

 

@mukrg since last update rangers are garbage in pvp, you wont find a good build that let you strong enough to win vs a melee, don't try cuepy is just garbage, you will die easy and wont have enough damage, if you really want keep yr AS the best option is using armor with alot health and atk who is being atking by others, you wont be enough to kill someone alone. But tbh the best option is just change class, go for pike, fs or bs, if you are not one of these 3 classes you probably wont have much fun in bc.

Really? Top 20 atm contains 3 archers. 

And we all know you dont wanna stand out too much, so you are being low key.

Top ranking is related to grind,when you don't grind, you won't get there.

 

 

Btw, Mid9walker has good k/d ratio, and only loses to 1 fs 1 prs 1 pike at the top 10. While she wins other pikes/fighters there. Don't let the fact confuse you though, I know you want a top 20 of 16-19 rangers and 1 melee who makes it ( especially when rangers are only 2 out of 11 classes in this game).

 

Also not sure why fs is involved, when top 20 has 3 fighters, 2 171, 1 165, when 2 of them aren't a good measure to fighter. Hence at the top 20, archers are doing better. ( They get there with lower lvls) .

 

Also, all I stated were pure facts stats wise. Your arguments doesn't have anything related to game beside hand waving. If u want further elaboration read above/many balance topics, not gonna rewrite another full comparement in every topic for you.

 

 

 

 

12 hours ago, mukrg said:

 

 

However when you say "that's just not true", i cant help but to feel a little ofended e thinking your're calling me a liar hahaha.

 

What i said is from my perspective as an AS player atm. So, yes, i find it hard to hit melees and thats very true, dear.

 

Pikes for exemple, very often, can tank a full party after hitting and start running w/ dodge on because most of the hits just dont go in.

 

Anyways, that was not my point at all but i apreciate your help  

 

 

 

"Hard" is relative. You have between 800-1800 more AR than other melees, they miss on a any X opponet more than you.

I dont think you believe your archer is supposed to ignore deff completely, while maintaining the hp of a pike, and insanely high damage of PS, dealing more damage than AC of fs, attacking from range+have high running speed+nice attack speed+good crit+ being able to pot per hit, and not 2 like everyone else? Also having the highest evasion in game, maintaining shield's block when some1 is near?

Doesn't really make sense ?

 

"Pike can tank a full party"- Ill do a defensive comparement for ya: both have around the same hp, same block with shield. As has much more evade than him, while she can either use armor/not use it. If she does, she also has more deff, and she's the better tank. Let that sink in, ur ranger, with AR+range+running speed+ attack speed tanks better than a slow attack speed+normal running speed melee range.

 

If she doesn't, she runs much faster, getting away from trouble while not letting her opponents hit her too much. At that state he has more deff, but she has more evade. She still wins here. 

 

Now lets assume a pike uses dodge- works for 5 hits. In the first 5 hits, he is indeed better, after that, hes the worse tanker.

In team fights, when many ppl hit ya, 5 hits isn't much, if 3 ppl target u, it ends after 1 skill.

 

And 5 hits end very quick when his skill's animation is slow+attacking from close range ( has to get in danger, and stay there for considerably long due to animation speed of skills)  vs archer, who attacks from a long range+can spam 2 PS faster than 1 CL of a pike, and get away fast( she was far away to begin with, she can literally kill before some1 gets her ). Also shes not trapped in any animation spamming PS, hence u can stop and run whenever u want.

 

Seems that overall, as wins. The fact that you have trouble with pikes in 1v1 is good, because that's not as role. When ur as is being much better at SW, it is conviniet. When shes better at team fights that's also conviniet. You only look at what happens when 2 classes 1v1, and even there, at a CL vs PS , the archer will probably win.

 

Pike has to use ice+dodge+vanish to kill her. You have to look at the bigger picture.

 

Also you had a full month to convert to any class for 1kc ( 2 with runes ), it seems like being as is comfortable for you, and ofc it is, as is still insanely good, ( just the evade with 1h has nothing to do with her) shes just not completely broken. 

Also if u don't like the hit and run gameplay, and maintaining range, I believe as gameplay doesn't fit you. ( Ofc if u love it, it's something else) .Just some insights ?

Edited March 31, 2022 by TigerShark22

[HollyShot 967]

5 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said:

Really? Top 20 atm contains 3 archers. 

And we all know you dont wanna stand out too much, so you are being low key.

Top ranking is related to grind,when you don't grind, you won't get there.

 

 

Btw, Mid9walker has good k/d ratio, and only loses to 1 fs 1 prs 1 pike at the top 10. While she wins other pikes/fighters there. Don't let the fact confuse you though, I know you want a top 10 of 9 rangers and 1 melee who makes it ( especially when rangers are only 2 out of 11 classes in this game).

 

Also not sure why fs is involved, when top 20 has 3 fighters, 2 171, 1 165, when 2 of them aren't a good measure to fighter.

 

Also, all I stated were pure facts stats wise. Your arguments doesn't have anything related to game beside hand waving. If u want further elaboration read above/many balance topics, not gonna rewrite another full comparement in every topic for you.

 

 

 

 

 

"Hard" is relative. You have between 800-1800 more AR than other melees, they miss on a any X opponet more than you.

You actually believe your archer is supposed to ignore deff completely, while maintaining the hp of a pike, and insanely high damage of PS, dealing more damage than AC of fs, attacking from range+have high running speed+nice attack speed+good crit+ being able to pot per hit, and not 2 like everyone else? Also having the highest evasion in game, maintaining shield's block when some1 is near?

Makes sense ?

 

"Pike can tank a full party"- Ill do a defensive comparement for ya: both have around the same hp, same block with shield. As has much more evade than him, while she can either use armor/not use it. If she does, she also has more deff, and she's the better tank. Let that sink in, ur ranger, with AR+range+running speed+ attack speed tanks better than a slow attack speed+normal running speed melee range.

 

If she doesn't, she runs much faster, getting away from trouble while not letting her opponents hit her too much, also a win.

 

Now lets assume a pike uses dodge- works for 5 hits. In the first 5 hits, he is indeed better, after that, hes the worse tanker.

In team fights, when many ppl hit ya, 5 hits isn't much, if 3 ppl target u, it ends after 1 skill.

 

And 5 hits end very quick when his skill's animation is slow+attacking from close range ( has to get in danger, and stay there for considerably long due to animation speed of skills)  vs archer, who attacks from a long range+can spam 2 PS faster than 1 CL of a pike, and get away fast( she was far away to begin with, she can literally kill before some1 gets her ). Also shes not trapped in any animation spamming PS, hence u can stop and run whenever u want.

 

Seems that overall, as wins. The fact that you have trouble with pikes in 1v1 is good, because that's not ur role. When ur as is being much better at SW, it is conviniet. When shes better at team fights that's also conviniet. You only look at what happens when 2 classes 1v1, and even there, at a CL vs PS , the archer will probably win. Pike has to use ice+dodge+vanish to kill her. But dont let it confuse u. Also for some1 who had a full month to convert to any class for 1kc ( 2 with runes ), it seems like being as is comfortable for you.

funny how the ranking counts when you needed say rangers were OP but now that have 4 pikes in top 10 you care about the grind, and you are also a liar nobody that changed to melee back to ranger, but the opposite happened alot, i can make a list:

_n00b_ (Ata) > FS

n00b™ (As) > FS

Sananda (Ata) > PS

Guardian (As) > SS > ASS

Mjizzy (Ata) > FS

The.Dude (AS) > Pike

Jersey (AS) > Pike

Grim (AS) > MS

Oden (AS) > FS

Mytoykiller (AS) > KS

♪♫-(◕‿◕)-♪♫  (AS) > Pike

Lancelot (AS) > KS

Relix (AS) > Pike
Dio (AS) > Pike

Leozin (Ata) > Pike

Cigarreira (AS) > PIke

Crygeta (AS) > FS
Alpha (Ata) > KS

Ba-Lisa (Ata) > FS

Axcon (AS) > FS

Bloodsheed (AS) > PS

 

That's just the ones i remember, but i didnt see any melee changing to ranger, at least not for pvp. You'r just another obsessed like crygeta but at least he changed to AS to check (ofc didnt last much). 

 

To the owner of the topic, dont believe in nothing this guy saying he is really biased and hate rangers (his ego too weak to die for girls), take the infos you need from the other posts. Thanks.

 

[TigerShark22 488]

21 minutes ago, HollyShot said:

funny how the ranking counts when you needed say rangers were OP but now that have 4 pikes in top 10 you care about the grind, and you are also a liar nobody that changed to melee back to ranger, but the opposite happened alot, i can make a list:

_n00b_ (Ata) > FS

n00b™ (As) > FS

Sananda (Ata) > PS

Guardian (As) > SS > ASS

Mjizzy (Ata) > FS

The.Dude (AS) > Pike

Jersey (AS) > Pike

Grim (AS) > MS

Oden (AS) > FS

Mytoykiller (AS) > KS

♪♫-(◕‿◕)-♪♫  (AS) > Pike

Lancelot (AS) > KS

Relix (AS) > Pike
Dio (AS) > Pike

Leozin (Ata) > Pike

Cigarreira (AS) > PIke

Crygeta (AS) > FS
Alpha (Ata) > KS

Ba-Lisa (Ata) > FS

Axcon (AS) > FS

Bloodsheed (AS) > PS

 

That's just the ones i remember, but i didnt see any melee changing to ranger, at least not for pvp. You'r just another obsessed like crygeta but at least he changed to AS to check (ofc didnt last much). 

 

To the owner of the topic, dont believe in nothing this guy saying he is really biased and hate rangers (his ego too weak to die for girls), take the infos you need from the other posts. Thanks.

 

Most of this list, if not all, contain players who used to be melees, changed to rangers purely for power, when melees were nothing and as was broken. 

 

Some of them personally admitted to me in game it was their reason ( keeping their privacy though). Also Idc about you spesifically. Yet if the GM needs info to make a move, Ill gladly provide it.

 

Also Im not the one who said:" nerf females".  Ass/BS are clearly better versions for pvp compared to pike/fs ( for 1v1 at least, and for SW BS is defiantly the best out of the 4) yet why Im not saying anything about those 2 female classes? Also further the more, I push those 2 to be at the top classes for 1v1.

That's cause I believe in game balance which makes sense, and overall their characteristics put them at the top 4 classes for 1v1.

 

The only one who mentioned gender is usually from the ranger patrol, and mostly in an anti male matter. Yet I really hope you won't hate men, for your own mental health, don't hate ❤️ .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 31, 2022 by TigerShark22

[HollyShot 967]

18 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said:

Most of this list, if not all, contain players who used to be melees, changed to rangers purely for power, when melees were nothing and as was broken. 

 

Some of them personally admitted to me in game it was their reason ( keeping their privacy though). Also Idc about you spesifically. Yet if the GM needs info to make a move, Ill gladly provide it.

 

Also Im not the one who said:" nerf females".  Ass/BS are clearly better versions for pvp compared to pike/fs ( for 1v1 at least, and for SW BS is defiantly the best out of the 4) yet why Im not saying anything about those 2 female classes? Also further the more, I push those 2 to be at the top classes for 1v1.

That's cause I believe in game balance which makes sense, and overall their characteristics put them at the top 4 classes for 1v1.

 

The only one who mentioned gender is usually from the ranger patrol, and mostly in an anti male matter. Yet I really hope you won't hate men, for your own mental health safety, don't hate ❤️ .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You dont say anything about bs and ass because they are not popular classes so you dont have to deal with them, but if they were im sure you would be crying about them too. And thats obvious, you think yr class must be superior to compensate for your inability and thats why you always asking nerf for other classes (even magic classes). Thats classic crygeta mindset who believes priston should be like 2004 where pikes and fs were gods in pvp and all others were garbage. 

 

P.S.: you and the "anti ranger patrol" achieved the worst pvp we had in years, now if you go bc is to be 50% of the time frozen 50% of the time stunned, and 100% of the time getting backstabbed for 300 hit&run pikes. Nice job.

Edited March 31, 2022 by HollyShot

[covidkilla 414]

1 hour ago, HollyShot said:

You dont say anything about bs and ass because they are not popular classes so you dont have to deal with them, but if they were im sure you would be crying about them too. And thats obvious, you think yr class must be superior to compensate for your inability and thats why you always asking nerf for other classes (even magic classes). Thats classic crygeta mindset who believes priston should be like 2004 where pikes and fs were gods in pvp and all others were garbage. 

 

P.S.: you and the "anti ranger patrol" achieved the worst pvp we had in years, now if you go bc is to be 50% of the time frozen 50% of the time stunned, and 100% of the time getting backstabbed for 300 hit&run pikes. Nice job.

 

You think its the worst PVP balance in years because you cant play your archer like God mode anymore, It's funny as soon as balance hits kryon no where to be found. Instead you decided to pilot 17x melee accounts to still PVP using accounts like noob 171 fs , 170 ms , 165 fs.... You only play characters that make you feel like god. Any other class that requires effort patience and skill to play you stay away because its too much effort for you and you only know how to play god mode characters. 

 

 

 

I remember in forum you said years ago in previous balance when archer was bad you were one of the only ones who still kept playing archer ... i find that hard to believe because once the new balance hit you became full time pilot.

 

There are still incredible active pvp archers in this game , example midnightwalker that player didn't cry and stop logging his archer to pilot 17x melee classes like you did. Midnightwalker actually still plays his archer and hes an incredible archer. I have seen him pvp 2 fighters at once and he won. Archers are still amazingly playable ... You are just to lazy to actually pvp you just want to play with 2 hand weapons full time and run around saying I'm god... 

 

 

 

 

I think you have this idea that you think everyone thinks that you are some strong amazing player who feels like GOD , I think you abandoned your archer because you dont want people

to see you losing , you care about your reputation a lot. That's why you became a pilot logging 17x melee accounts so people can still see you as strong .

 

 

 

 

Edited April 1, 2022 by covidkilla
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[kenibok 1,057]

On 3/29/2022 at 8:26 AM, mukrg said:

Hi, guys!

 

So i recently changed class to AS and i'm finding it dificult to stablish a build for PVP.

 

Atm, im 160 full: armor 140 dnt +24, shield 140 +24, 142 bow +24, 138 bow +15 agility, brac hell bsol vitality, draxos bsol, greedy bsol, 2x triadic +1 AS perfect status set boss 3 dnt + 138 amulet 94hp etc..

 

I know that last patch really weakened us rangers in comparsion to melees atk rating (ish)/defense ability and atk pow, but still i think its very odd to die so easily as well equiped as i am (at lest i think im well equiped hahah). Plus, its VERY HARD to hit melees, like 5 or more ph shots to get their hp down a bit.

 

Status are the minimun needed to use the items,  150 vitality wich gives me more than 1,7k hp with VL and the rest on agility atk pow goes to 1,9k with sol force 

 

Should i change anything? Forget armor and go pure since ill be hit killed by anyone anyway? 

 

Thanks in advance ?

 

I hate to discourage you but if you want to enjoy PvP don't play archer as its one of the worse classes atm for it, if not the worst. The problem is not your items, or the ones you don't have yet, because even with cent or relics you're not in any chance of competition against classes with basically the same rate but more defensive traits, more offensive traits, debuffs or simply double you on critical. You can be full high level archer and you'd still be faaaar below any other class same level or low level pike, bs, fs, ks, which are the only playable classes atm, even with poorer gear than you

 

Unluckily even 100% pure build you won't be able in any way to hitkill other class unless its archer, but consider that every single class is able to hitkill you, armor may help against magics/ks/fs, but there's no use on trying against pikeman or brawler, basically all its skills are hitkillers with hits starting at 2.5k, specially after there rate increased to about 4k; pike has higher block/evasion than you, higher attack power, +20% base critical, higher, ice/poison and of course dodge, while brawler make your already jk damage lower than 1k, you'll need about 3 consecutive critical hits to kill one alone, chances ofc are not on your side.

 

This patch is the most unbalancing to date, its weird because even on a ridiculously wrong ranking, you can see it on k/d's and which classes are benefited, which are the same I mentioned the day the patch was made, hitkillers and op tankers, the rest is far far behind, archer even more. About 2 days ago all pikes 4+ k/d, but anyways you can still see ps/ks/bs score above 2.5 most, while rangers just don't even qualify to compare lol, of course you can go pick (1) full relic full items that made its score during siege to excuse a whole class, but that would be contradicting to its own words when people complained about brawlers having k/d of 100+, because 2 is close to 100 right? k, anyways

 

All other classes enjoy more defensive traits and more offensive traits or some annoying debuffs, but archer doesn't and now also doesn't have damage or useful defense, If you still want to pursue archer on PvP I'd say experiment, pure, cuepy, armor, etc but I believe risking it to go pure does not compensate as your damage will be super low compared to any class, about the same as a 146 fs but with about 1300 less hp than one xdd, keep in mind that evasion would be your only defensive source and unluckily its unstable, unlike def, hp abs or block

 

 

[mukrg 25]

Guys you got this topic too close to the heart. It became too personal lol

 

so funny hahah

 

I apreciate all the good tips about AS, thanks a lot ❤️

Edited April 1, 2022 by mukrg

[TigerShark22 488]

2 hours ago, kenibok said:

 

I hate to discourage you but if you want to enjoy PvP don't play archer as its one of the worse classes atm for it, if not the worst. The problem is not your items, or the ones you don't have yet, because even with cent or relics you're not in any chance of competition against classes with basically the same rate but more defensive traits, more offensive traits, debuffs or simply double you on critical. You can be full high level archer and you'd still be faaaar below any other class same level or low level pike, bs, fs, ks, which are the only playable classes atm, even with poorer gear than you

 

Unluckily even 100% pure build you won't be able in any way to hitkill other class unless its archer, but consider that every single class is able to hitkill you, armor may help against magics/ks/fs, but there's no use on trying against pikeman or brawler, basically all its skills are hitkillers with hits starting at 2.5k, specially after there rate increased to about 4k; pike has higher block/evasion than you, higher attack power, +20% base critical, higher, ice/poison and of course dodge, while brawler make your already jk damage lower than 1k, you'll need about 3 consecutive critical hits to kill one alone, chances ofc are not on your side.

 

This patch is the most unbalancing to date, its weird because even on a ridiculously wrong ranking, you can see it on k/d's and which classes are benefited, which are the same I mentioned the day the patch was made, hitkillers and op tankers, the rest is far far behind, archer even more. About 2 days ago all pikes 4+ k/d, but anyways you can still see ps/ks/bs score above 2.5 most, while rangers just don't even qualify to compare lol, of course you can go pick (1) full relic full items that made its score during siege to excuse a whole class, but that would be contradicting to its own words when people complained about brawlers having k/d of 100+, because 2 is close to 100 right? k, anyways

 

All other classes enjoy more defensive traits and more offensive traits or some annoying debuffs, but archer doesn't and now also doesn't have damage or useful defense, If you still want to pursue archer on PvP I'd say experiment, pure, cuepy, armor, etc but I believe risking it to go pure does not compensate as your damage will be super low compared to any class, about the same as a 146 fs but with about 1300 less hp than one xdd, keep in mind that evasion would be your only defensive source and unluckily its unstable, unlike def, hp abs or block

 

 

Too much fake news.

Its also hallirious that you actually believe that.

Mid9walker is a solid proof that archer is still very good, and hes usually above 3.5 k/d ratio on a lvl 162. There other 2 archers in top 20 are only 15x, while the 3 fighters there are 171,171,165 , with way better items, relics and gems.

You just dislike the fact that you aren't OP and broken anymore.

 

4 hours ago, HollyShot said:

You dont say anything about bs and ass because they are not popular classes so you dont have to deal with them, but if they were im sure you would be crying about them too. And thats obvious, you think yr class must be superior to compensate for your inability and thats why you always asking nerf for other classes (even magic classes). Thats classic crygeta mindset who believes priston should be like 2004 where pikes and fs were gods in pvp and all others were garbage. 

 

P.S.: you and the "anti ranger patrol" achieved the worst pvp we had in years, now if you go bc is to be 50% of the time frozen 50% of the time stunned, and 100% of the time getting backstabbed for 300 hit&run pikes. Nice job.

That's not true at all. I m literally consistent about my opinion about BS and ASS.

 

Also, me and Vegeta might agree on many things, and even we have some disagreements, yet you can't lie about the fact that it's not balanced when a class whos so much better at SW/team fights, can stomp other classes at 1v1 too.

 

You actually believe that a prs, should have a debuff clean+3.7 secs invincible mode, and at 100% of the time her opponet will suffer freeze/34% dmg reduction, with the same deff like ks, less block, but more evade which nearly covers the block diff, but she has range? Shes literally a better version of ks ( loses only at 1v1 thx to the melee buff, and even at that, debateable ), but for god sake, 34% dmg reduction on a support class, when you tried to turn the world over a 25% dmg reduction on a tank class with melee range. Let that sink in.  ( Yet heres what I believe, yes shes a support, but shouldn't be powerless, and it doesn't mean 100% support, it just means tendency to support. yet there is no way she is outdoing a tank in his own niche, which also when I believe a class leans towards tankyness, yet he shouldn't be powerless offence wise) .

 

Also let the fact that when there has been a month of 1kc change class ( 2 with relics), when there have been 53 archers who are the same or above lvl 157, now there are 50. In total, due to a change class, when the whole server could pick any class to play, and it was affordable, there have been only 3 less archers, compared to the time they were broken, and many played them due to them being OP ( and admitted it, some of the players in ur list literally admitted it while playing archer, that it was the only reason they did play it) .

 

Also the fact that archer is still the most popular class, who contain the most of the top 100 players. Again, when most likely, any of the players had a cheap affordable change class, still most players chose to stay archer.

You aren't looking at it correctly at all.

 

 

 

 

Im also consistent about the SW, team fights and 1v1 balance. And about the fact that all u can do is hand weaving. You literally have 0 stats/gameplay explanations in why ur class isn't good ( because those explanations will only make her look too good ). All you can do is scream :" melees OP" ( while literally the 2 out of 3 fighters in top 20, are 171 with gems+relics, and the other one is 165, when the 3 archers there, are way lower lvl and undergeared. So if fs is too good, imagine how good as is.

Also a player here literally called ks a mule stun, and if u will use ks to 1v1 fs/bs/ some meches, you might see the reason why).

 

 

Also I don't think you understood as well, so Ill quote for ya the as description:" Those warriors are unmatched in their skills in projective weapons. Preferring to take enemies out from a distance... They tend to blend into the environment, out of sight."

Translation - an as fights from a distance, and has a tendency to snipe enemies out of sight. Not stomp on melees at melee range like before. It also means, usually, when the sniper is cought, he will be disadvantaged. 

Her characteristics of high attack speed, running speed, stopping per hit and not 2 like everyone else+ having high *range* ( important**** ) literally support that, yes, you can have that, but it comes with a price. Like anything else in a balanced game, you can have X abillities or Y abillities. You pick whatever fits your liking, and if that gameplay isn't to your liking, then play something that is. 

 

 

 

Edited April 1, 2022 by TigerShark22

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15 hours ago, TigerShark22 said:

Too much fake news.

Its also hallirious that you actually believe that.

Mid9walker is a solid proof that archer is still very good, and hes usually above 3.5 k/d ratio on a lvl 162. There other 2 archers in top 20 are only 15x, while the 3 fighters there are 171,171,165 , with way better items, relics and gems.

You just dislike the fact that you aren't OP and broken anymore.

 

That's not true at all. I m literally consistent about my opinion about BS and ASS.

 

Also, me and Vegeta might agree on many things, and even we have some disagreements, yet you can't lie about the fact that it's not balanced when a class whos so much better at SW/team fights, can stomp other classes at 1v1 too.

 

You actually believe that a prs, should have a debuff clean+3.7 secs invincible mode, and at 100% of the time her opponet will suffer freeze/34% dmg reduction, with the same deff like ks, less block, but more evade which nearly covers the block diff, but she has range? Shes literally a better version of ks ( loses only at 1v1 thx to the melee buff, and even at that, debateable ), but for god sake, 34% dmg reduction on a support class, when you tried to turn the world over a 25% dmg reduction on a tank class with melee range. Let that sink in.  ( Yet heres what I believe, yes shes a support, but shouldn't be powerless, and it doesn't mean 100% support, it just means tendency to support. yet there is no way she is outdoing a tank in his own niche, which also when I believe a class leans towards tankyness, yet he shouldn't be powerless offence wise) .

 

Also let the fact that when there has been a month of 1kc change class ( 2 with relics), when there have been 53 archers who are the same or above lvl 157, now there are 50. In total, due to a change class, when the whole server could pick any class to play, and it was affordable, there have been only 3 less archers, compared to the time they were broken, and many played them due to them being OP ( and admitted it, some of the players in ur list literally admitted it while playing archer, that it was the only reason they did play it) .

 

Also the fact that archer is still the most popular class, who contain the most of the top 100 players. Again, when most likely, any of the players had a cheap affordable change class, still most players chose to stay archer.

You aren't looking at it correctly at all.

 

 

 

 

Im also consistent about the SW, team fights and 1v1 balance. And about the fact that all u can do is hand weaving. You literally have 0 stats/gameplay explanations in why ur class isn't good ( because those explanations will only make her look too good ). All you can do is scream :" melees OP" ( while literally the 2 out of 3 fighters in top 20, are 171 with gems+relics, and the other one is 165, when the 3 archers there, are way lower lvl and undergeared. So if fs is too good, imagine how good as is.

Also a player here literally called ks a mule stun, and if u will use ks to 1v1 fs/bs/ some meches, you might see the reason why).

 

 

Also I don't think you understood as well, so Ill quote for ya the as description:" Those warriors are unmatched in their skills in projective weapons. Preferring to take enemies out from a distance... They tend to blend into the environment, out of sight."

Translation - an as fights from a distance, and has a tendency to snipe enemies out of sight. Not stomp on melees at melee range like before. It also means, usually, when the sniper is cought, he will be disadvantaged. 

Her characteristics of high attack speed, running speed, stopping per hit and not 2 like everyone else+ having high *range* ( important**** ) literally support that, yes, you can have that, but it comes with a price. Like anything else in a balanced game, you can have X abillities or Y abillities. You pick whatever fits your liking, and if that gameplay isn't to your liking, then play something that is. 

 

 

 

 

 

Dont listen to @HollyShot and @kenibok

 

 

 

These two archers complain to much about how archers are useless now... when in reality they are still amongst the best for PVP. Check midnightwalker and other archers they are super killers and survivor's having good K/D too

 

 

These players just want archer back to GOD mode , if not god or not the best class for PVP they are not happy. 

 

 

All I see from these people are long posts about how bad archer is now, like no one believes you guys. 

 

 

 

All that has changed is archers are not the best class for PVP anymore that's why everyone changed class to ps fs ks.  its far from the truth to say archers are potentially the worst class for PVP @kenibok … I know you like to private message staff to show them your long paragraphs of your logic on archers , I really hope they dont listen to you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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19 hours ago, TigerShark22 said:

Too much fake news.

Its also hallirious that you actually believe that.

Mid9walker is a solid proof that archer is still very good, and hes usually above 3.5 k/d ratio on a lvl 162. There other 2 archers in top 20 are only 15x, while the 3 fighters there are 171,171,165 , with way better items, relics and gems.

You just dislike the fact that you aren't OP and broken anymore.

 

That's not true at all. I m literally consistent about my opinion about BS and ASS.

 

Also, me and Vegeta might agree on many things, and even we have some disagreements, yet you can't lie about the fact that it's not balanced when a class whos so much better at SW/team fights, can stomp other classes at 1v1 too.

 

You actually believe that a prs, should have a debuff clean+3.7 secs invincible mode, and at 100% of the time her opponet will suffer freeze/34% dmg reduction, with the same deff like ks, less block, but more evade which nearly covers the block diff, but she has range? Shes literally a better version of ks ( loses only at 1v1 thx to the melee buff, and even at that, debateable ), but for god sake, 34% dmg reduction on a support class, when you tried to turn the world over a 25% dmg reduction on a tank class with melee range. Let that sink in.  ( Yet heres what I believe, yes shes a support, but shouldn't be powerless, and it doesn't mean 100% support, it just means tendency to support. yet there is no way she is outdoing a tank in his own niche, which also when I believe a class leans towards tankyness, yet he shouldn't be powerless offence wise) .

 

Also let the fact that when there has been a month of 1kc change class ( 2 with relics), when there have been 53 archers who are the same or above lvl 157, now there are 50. In total, due to a change class, when the whole server could pick any class to play, and it was affordable, there have been only 3 less archers, compared to the time they were broken, and many played them due to them being OP ( and admitted it, some of the players in ur list literally admitted it while playing archer, that it was the only reason they did play it) .

 

Also the fact that archer is still the most popular class, who contain the most of the top 100 players. Again, when most likely, any of the players had a cheap affordable change class, still most players chose to stay archer.

You aren't looking at it correctly at all.

 

 

 

 

Im also consistent about the SW, team fights and 1v1 balance. And about the fact that all u can do is hand weaving. You literally have 0 stats/gameplay explanations in why ur class isn't good ( because those explanations will only make her look too good ). All you can do is scream :" melees OP" ( while literally the 2 out of 3 fighters in top 20, are 171 with gems+relics, and the other one is 165, when the 3 archers there, are way lower lvl and undergeared. So if fs is too good, imagine how good as is.

Also a player here literally called ks a mule stun, and if u will use ks to 1v1 fs/bs/ some meches, you might see the reason why).

 

 

Also I don't think you understood as well, so Ill quote for ya the as description:" Those warriors are unmatched in their skills in projective weapons. Preferring to take enemies out from a distance... They tend to blend into the environment, out of sight."

Translation - an as fights from a distance, and has a tendency to snipe enemies out of sight. Not stomp on melees at melee range like before. It also means, usually, when the sniper is cought, he will be disadvantaged. 

Her characteristics of high attack speed, running speed, stopping per hit and not 2 like everyone else+ having high *range* ( important**** ) literally support that, yes, you can have that, but it comes with a price. Like anything else in a balanced game, you can have X abillities or Y abillities. You pick whatever fits your liking, and if that gameplay isn't to your liking, then play something that is. 

 

 

 

 

Yes, fake news... when you can't convince them, attack them right? 

This is the ranking the last week before patch 5256 on Saturday morning before reset, fake news? lol

Its specially important to mention among the top pikes the majority don't even own draxos boots, while the top 5-8 archers all have draxos and at least tulla + greedy. The k/d has little differences but the players compared differ on equip, level and relics

 

 

Don't tag/quote me anymore, you make comparison's between pike 2h vs pri 1hand, say vg is 1.5x faster than CL, compare 1x1 holy mind while 50% AOE ice pikeman exists like??.. why do I even waste my time on this. You're allowed to have your opinion, but don't say I'm lying when I'm not, and it actually looks much more like the other way around.

 

4 hours ago, covidkilla said:

 

 

Dont listen to @HollyShot and @kenibok

 

 

 

These two archers complain to much about how archers are useless now... when in reality they are still amongst the best for PVP. Check midnightwalker and other archers they are super killers and survivor's having good K/D too

 

 

These players just want archer back to GOD mode , if not god or not the best class for PVP they are not happy. 

 

 

All I see from these people are long posts about how bad archer is now, like no one believes you guys. 

 

 

 

All that has changed is archers are not the best class for PVP anymore that's why everyone changed class to ps fs ks.  its far from the truth to say archers are potentially the worst class for PVP @kenibok … I know you like to private message staff to show them your long paragraphs of your logic on archers , I really hope they dont listen to you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why are you talking to me? I mean...clearly you believe me k, you know I'm telling the truth same reason you tag me 3 times, you even say it here, you're scared, but you don't need to, unlike you I do know how to do basic math. Lets do this, you can stop obsessing over me while I speak about things I know and you can go do your illegal black market stuff somewhere else ?, win-win situation ❤️ 

[covidkilla 414]

3 hours ago, kenibok said:

 

Yes, fake news... when you can't convince them, attack them right? 

This is the ranking the last week before patch 5256 on Saturday morning before reset, fake news? lol

Its specially important to mention among the top pikes the majority don't even own draxos boots, while the top 5-8 archers all have draxos and at least tulla + greedy. The k/d has little differences but the players compared differ on equip, level and relics

 

 

Don't tag/quote me anymore, you make comparison's between pike 2h vs pri 1hand, say vg is 1.5x faster than CL, compare 1x1 holy mind while 50% AOE ice pikeman exists like??.. why do I even waste my time on this. You're allowed to have your opinion, but don't say I'm lying when I'm not, and it actually looks much more like the other way around.

 

 

Why are you talking to me? I mean...clearly you believe me k, you know I'm telling the truth same reason you tag me 3 times, you even say it here, you're scared, but you don't need to, unlike you I do know how to do basic math. Lets do this, you can stop obsessing over me while I speak about things I know and you can go do your illegal black market stuff somewhere else ?, win-win situation ❤️ 

 

Calm down little boy and fix your internet when you are in BC , I'm tired of watching your archer derreck lag like crazy.

 

 

All your posts you talk like you went to the university of wartale , let the game developers do their job and stop pming  senpai with your 20 paragraphs crying about how new balance is bad. 

 

 

All your efforts calculating formulas of the pvp balance ... maybe take that time to go read a book ... I recommend starting with a book about how to live a healthy and happy life . Maybe rent one at the local library if you can't afford to buy one on Amazon. 

 

 

You can't even play archer properly... you can only play when it's God. Take lessons from other archers who are actually good and that don't relog out of cage like you do.

 

All you do is relog run around in caution zone like a chicken who doesn't know what he's doing 

 

 

 

Wartale won't Hire you ok ? Stop trying to impress. Try finding a job elsewhere 

 

On 3/31/2022 at 5:03 PM, HollyShot said:

really, tell me who changed to melee and back to ranger babe

and why are u not using ranking as argument right now? maybe cuz in top 10 we have 4 pikes? or cuz last week the top 10 was 4 fs 4 ps 1 bs 1 ks?

 

@mukrg since last update rangers are garbage in pvp, you wont find a good build that let you strong enough to win vs a melee, don't try cuepy is just garbage, you will die easy and wont have enough damage, if you really want keep yr AS the best option is using armor with alot health and atk who is being atking by others, you wont be enough to kill someone alone. But tbh the best option is just change class, go for pike, fs or bs, if you are not one of these 3 classes you probably wont have much fun in bc.

 

 

Rankings as an argument is irrelevant 

 

 

Please don't forget this little boy , most top players in this game changed from as/Ata and went to fs,ps ks ... so obviously the rankings will show these classes in the top rankings ...

 

If those same players remained archer and Atlanta then they would still be In the top ranking 

 

 

What has happened is a balance that finally allowed people to play the classes they loved again because they are now playable  . Before most players were archers and Atlantas and I know your archer loved that because you enjoyed having the benefit of your archer using edited items because we all know you don't like to play fair you abuse whatever thing you can find in the game that gives you more advantage as long as its legal ?  .... 

 

I remember a time where you never trash talked much in bc but within the last few weeks you changed you started talking too much on piloted accounts...  I don't know what made you change it could be :

 

1: archer nerf 

2: no gold crown for over 8 months

3: you became a full-time pilot

 

 

Whatever it might be , maybe step back and take a break... hire xp service for kryon and just relax for a few weeks and relieve some stress ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 2, 2022 by covidkilla
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10 hours ago, kenibok said:

 

Yes, fake news... when you can't convince them, attack them right? 

This is the ranking the last week before patch 5256 on Saturday morning before reset, fake news? lol

Its specially important to mention among the top pikes the majority don't even own draxos boots, while the top 5-8 archers all have draxos and at least tulla + greedy. The k/d has little differences but the players compared differ on equip, level and relics

 

 

Don't tag/quote me anymore, you make comparison's between pike 2h vs pri 1hand, say vg is 1.5x faster than CL, compare 1x1 holy mind while 50% AOE ice pikeman exists like??.. why do I even waste my time on this. You're allowed to have your opinion, but don't say I'm lying when I'm not, and it actually looks much more like the other way around.

 

 

Why are you talking to me? I mean...clearly you believe me k, you know I'm telling the truth same reason you tag me 3 times, you even say it here, you're scared, but you don't need to, unlike you I do know how to do basic math. Lets do this, you can stop obsessing over me while I speak about things I know and you can go do your illegal black market stuff somewhere else ?, win-win situation ❤️ 

In 1v1, a pike fights with 2h, a prs with 1h.  I might compare their defensive traits, but I also do compare their offence. 

Pike 1h is not effective at all.

I can also compare mech 2h to a pike 2h, but thing is, he spesifically doesn't need 2h at all. 

 

Also he might have a 50% slowdown, and I said it before, its okay if its nerfed, but he must get compensated for it ( not because its ability in 1v1, but many complain about it's team fight trait ), that's why I support nerfing it, as long as his CL, SM speed are raised , to not harm his 1v1 trait.

 

And prs lel. The deff of ks, -18% block from him, but +15% evade ( yeah, doesn't work like that exactly, but pretty close ). She tanks nearly like a ks, can debuff her opponet 100% of the time, either Holy mind or freeze, while is resistant to debuffs+ has a 3.7 invincible mode which can be casted of others+range. Her damage reduction is 34% while being a support class, not even a tank. You can't go around it, its OP. Most classes have stun/slowdown for x time ( usually 1/3-half of the fight ) so they can counter 1 stun/slowdown. SS has 2, but the stun is unreliable so its ok, prs has 2+debuff clear, hence debuffs won't work, yet her debuffs will work. That's broken.

 

Also mage, Distoration+freeze for nearly 100% of the fight, while being resistant to stuns/slowdowns. It is also broken ( especially now, when he has a finisher ).

 

But you wanna talk about archers, her stats are known. She's defiantly not weak.

 

The only diff now is that she will be disadvantaged IF she plays like melee ( and even that, debateable ).  Before she could stomp melees at melee range, now she can still own them. She  just has to play like an archer, maintaining distance and attacking, which was extremely broken pre patch if an archer played like that ( yet they didn't, in general cause they didn't need to ).

 

Its funny how you guys complain having only 800-1800 more AR than everyone, yet are ok having melee's hp, and more damage than them, while attacking from long range+having more running speed+ high attack speed+ you can stop ur attack per hit, and not 2 ( you can't be overwhelmed by speed, yet you can overhelm others).

 

Lastly, from those changes, only 3 archers 157+ were lost to other classes in general, while still being the most popular class RN.

Many moved away, but many changed to as. She also has the highest lvl of top 100 players, and this class wasn't nearly as popular as it is today, and every player who PvP archer sees that they are damn good, and her stats prove if, just not gonna dive into it in every topic, yet there are living archers proving my points.

 

Its mostly feels like some archers cant play when aren't OP, and when 16-19 out of the top 20 are rangers, the game is defiantly broken, as it was. 

 

 

 

Edited April 2, 2022 by TigerShark22

[DeadlyWarrior 688]

On 3/29/2022 at 1:26 PM, mukrg said:

 

 

Hi all, want to give a Feedback here:

 

in this Patch i think many classes need to be high level and have good items/relics (not sure if all need it, but many). But i agree that Pikeman have it easier to Farm BP in Daily BC because of his mechanics: Vanish (invisible), Suprise Attack/Hitkill, Dodge and run away. 

Thats why you can get BP with lvl 155 and average items as PS. But you will not be able to fight in Hell Zone, unless you are a Pike with good gear/level/relics.

 

But atleast PS can get BP, even if 155 and average items. Same as Rangers, that can get BP with the advantage of Range, but will be paper if have low items and no relics. 

 

As PS i made positive Score playing like this. As Archer negative Score, but best Score when playing Siege War  (can hide behind Walls and just kill players... Or towers... Or attack from Range into Hell Zone...) 

 

As FS very hard to make positive Score, you need to be high level and need best items and support. Although FS lost Power and Critical Rating, i think with Sword its better then before, because the Hitrate improved. On the other Hand the AXE totally suck here, unless you are very high level, so you get benefit from the non critical Damage. 

 

51 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said:

In 1v1, a pike fights with 2h, a prs with 1h.  I might compare their defensive traits, but I also do compare their offence. 

Pike 1h is not effective at all.

I can also compare mech 2h to a pike 2h, but thing is, he spesifically doesn't need 2h at all. 

 

Also he might have a 50% slowdown, and I said it before, its okay if its nerfed, but he must get compensated for it ( not because its OP in 1v1, but many complain about it's team fight trait ), that's why I support nerfing it, as long as his CL, SM speed are raised , to not harm his 1v1 trait.

 

And prs lel. The deff of ks, -18% block from him, but +15% evade ( yeah, doesn't work like that exactly, but pretty close ). She tanks nearly like a ks, can debuff her opponet 100% of the time, either Holy mind or freeze, while is resistant to debuffs+ has a 3.7 invincible mode which can be casted of others. Her damage reduction is 34% while being a support class, not even a tank. You can't go around it, its OP. Most classes have stun/slowdown for x time ( usually 1/3-half of the fight ) so they can counter 1 stun/slowdown. SS has 2, but the stun is unreliable so its ok, prs has 2+debuff clear, hence debuffs won't work, yet her debuffs will work. That's broken.

 

Also mage, Distoration+freeze for nearly 100% of the fight, while being resistant to stuns/slowdowns. It is also broken ( especially now, when he has a finisher ).

 

But you wanna talk about archers, her stats are known. She's defiantly not weak.

 

The only diff now is that she will be disadvantaged IF she plays like melee ( and even that, debateable ).  Before she could stomp melees at melee range, now she can still own them. She  just has to play like an archer, maintaining distance and attacking, which was extremely broken pre patch if an archer played like that ( yet they didn't, in general cause they didn't need to ).

 

Its funny how you guys complain having only 800-1800 more AR than everyone, yet are ok having melee's hp, and more damage than them, while attacking from long range+having more running speed+ high attack speed+ you can stop ur attack per hit, and not 2 ( you can't be overwhelmed by speed, yet you can overhelm others).

 

Lastly, from those changes, only 3 archers 157+ were lost to other classes in general, while still being the most popular class RN.

Many moved away, but many changed to as. She also has the highest lvl of top 100 players, and this class wasn't nearly as popular as it is today, and every player who PvP archer sees that they are damn good, and her stats prove if, just not gonna dive into it in every topic, yet there are living archers proving my points.

 

Its mostly feels like some archers cant play when aren't OP, and when 16-19 out of the top 20 are rangers, the game is defiantly broken, as it was. 

 

 

 

 

Yes forgot to say that: Priest is horroble... Its a supporter and killer and tanker... 

 

Need to decide what priest should be in the PVP System: right now its too much killer with that support skills. Need to reduce the support skills or reduce killability. Priest can keep Tankability. 

Edited April 2, 2022 by DeadlyWarrior

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5 hours ago, TigerShark22 said:

Also he might have a 50% slowdown, and I said it before, its okay if its nerfed, but he must get compensated for it ( not because its ability in 1v1, but many complain about it's team fight trait ), that's why I support nerfing it, as long as his CL, SM speed are raised , to not harm his 1v1 trait.

 

5 hours ago, TigerShark22 said:

Also mage, Distoration+freeze for nearly 100% of the fight, while being resistant to stuns/slowdowns. It is also broken ( especially now, when he has a finisher ).

 

the fact that you think pike deserve a attack speed buff to compensate a broken skill , while saying that the second slowest class of the game which the only niche it had as a AoE slowdown support was replaced by that said stupid broken skill [ ground pike] deserve a nerf on pvp is honestly hilarious.

Edited April 2, 2022 by - D E A T H S T R O K E -

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7 hours ago, TigerShark22 said:

No 1v1 , um pique luta com 2h, um prs com 1h. Posso comparar seus traços defensivos, mas também comparo suas ofensas. 

Pike 1h não é nada eficaz.

Eu também posso comparar o mech 2h com um pike 2h, mas o problema é que ele especificamente não precisa de 2h. 

 

Além disso, ele pode ter uma desaceleração de 50%, e eu disse isso antes, tudo bem se for nerfado, mas ele deve ser compensado por isso (não porque sua habilidade em 1v1 , mas muitos reclamam do traço de luta em equipe), é por isso que eu apoio nerfando-o, desde que sua velocidade de CL, SM seja aumentada, para não prejudicar sua característica 1v1 .

 

E prs lel. O deff de ks, -18% bloqueia dele, mas +15% de evade (sim, não funciona exatamente assim, mas bem próximo). Ela tanka quase como um ks, pode debuffar seu oponente 100% do tempo, seja Holy mind ou freeze, enquanto é resistente a debuffs + tem um modo invencível de 3,7 que pode ser lançado de outros + alcance. Sua redução de dano é de 34% sendo uma classe de suporte, nem mesmo um tanque. Você não pode contorná-lo, é OP. A maioria das classes tem stun/slowdown por x tempo (geralmente 1/3-metade da luta) para que possam contra-atacar 1 stun/slowdown. SS tem 2, mas o stun não é confiável, então tudo bem, prs tem 2 + debuffs limpos, portanto os debuffs não funcionarão, mas seus debuffs funcionarão. Isso está quebrado.

 

Também mago, Distoration+freeze por quase 100% da luta, sendo resistente a stuns/slowdowns. Também está quebrado (principalmente agora, quando ele tem um finalizador).

 

Mas você quer falar sobre arqueiros, suas estatísticas são conhecidas. Ela definitivamente não é fraca.

 

A única diferença agora é que ela estará em desvantagem SE ela jogar como corpo a corpo (e mesmo isso, discutível). Antes que ela pudesse pisar corpo a corpo no alcance corpo a corpo, agora ela ainda pode possuí-los. Ela só tem que jogar como um arqueiro, mantendo distância e atacando, o que era extremamente quebrado antes do patch se um arqueiro jogasse assim (mas eles não jogavam, em geral porque eles não precisavam).

 

É engraçado como vocês reclamam ter apenas 800-1800 a mais de AR do que todos, mas estão bem com hp de corpo a corpo e mais dano do que eles, enquanto atacam de longo alcance + tendo mais velocidade de corrida + alta velocidade de ataque + você pode parar seu ataque por acerto, e não 2 (você não pode ser sobrecarregado pela velocidade, mas pode sobrecarregar os outros).

 

Por fim, dessas mudanças, apenas 3 arqueiros 157+ foram perdidos para outras classes em geral, enquanto ainda era a classe RN mais popular.

Muitos se mudaram, mas muitos mudaram para as. Ela também tem o lvl mais alto dos 100 melhores jogadores, e essa classe não era tão popular quanto é hoje, e todo jogador que arqueiro PvP vê que eles são muito bons, e suas estatísticas provam se, apenas não vai mergulhar nisso em todos os tópicos, mas há arqueiros vivos provando meus pontos.

 

Parece que alguns arqueiros não podem jogar quando não são OP, e quando 16-19 dos 20 melhores são rangers, o jogo está desafiadoramente quebrado, como era. 

 

 

 

you're saying that only some classes can kill and mage can't, I don't know if you've noticed the MG freeze was
nerf , 1 second ice sword to 2 and 50% freeze to 30%,
magic classes already have lower attack power and critical rate than other classes and are also very slow

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2 hours ago, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said:

 

 

the fact that you think pike deserve a attack speed buff to compensate a broken skill , while saying that the second slowest class of the game which the only niche it had as a AoE slowdown support was replaced by that said stupid broken skill [ ground pike] deserve a nerf on pvp is honestly hilarious.

Mage excels at SW, 1v1 isn't his niche. Im not talking about distoration, Im talking about the ice sword+the tact that hes immue to debuffs. He also got a buff in his finisher lately.

 

Last- mage can pot per 1 hit, not 2. That's also an advantage.

 

Yet you wanna talk about pike, which isn't the topic, but sure. I figured out that PPL have problem with it at team fights, which isn't his niche, yet 1v1 is his niche, so the idea I gave is a compensation.

The fact that u think mage should be the an ideal class for SW, team fights and 1v1 is broken. Its good that hes a top class for SW, and 1 of the better ones for team fights, yet 1v1 isn't his niche.

Edited April 2, 2022 by TigerShark22

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On 3/31/2022 at 6:32 PM, HollyShot said:

You dont say anything about bs and ass because they are not popular classes so you dont have to deal with them, but if they were im sure you would be crying about them too. And thats obvious, you think yr class must be superior to compensate for your inability and thats why you always asking nerf for other classes (even magic classes). Thats classic crygeta mindset who believes priston should be like 2004 where pikes and fs were gods in pvp and all others were garbage. 

 

P.S.: you and the "anti ranger patrol" achieved the worst pvp we had in years, now if you go bc is to be 50% of the time frozen 50% of the time stunned, and 100% of the time getting backstabbed for 300 hit&run pikes. Nice job.

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