Rey 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2011 balance? after this "balance" was much in bc and I could see how absurd it was done I do not know if it's strategy to acquire class change or result of prejudice and wailing against the pike. why pike can not it have the "Hit Kill"? ok I did agree in low levels can't kill high level in a cs but that could be solved without destroying the class --' some may come here and talk - Ahh, but pike can kill only in cl now kill who? cl don't hits all hit I went x1 with many of my level. pike can kill kina in x1 (with ice) fs has many difficulties because they have roar and dt, and we? yes -.- cl (but knowing play you can actually rather kill) but Can't kill mech! giving a look to the future I see the skills of tier5 the pike useless. mainly: Lethal Strike (for me it would be a complement to the sequence: eye> cs> lethal strike) now? but ok, this may be modified or not Pike has a profile made for many years in pt: a great warrior in pvp whose specialty: surprising the adversary usually with lethal attacks now: = 1 Kina only 2 hand without def and can only gain on x1 Mech Now King of bless can kill claw you very easy With sword, Hammer etc can now kill with just a few "shots" no problems when upping tank more than all kills more than all Fine in hunt with arch kills more than actual archer that's the balance? I do not know where pike is good now is regular at all or is bad at all and are saying it will remain so. I'm not belittling the work of sandurr but I think he rushed mech is much worse than the old pike now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QMan 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2011 trust!! it hard to balanced for all class wait new balance at anouncment pike is not noob at all skill now can tank well and my mech can still die with chain lance or 7-hit skill if mech is over pow. Wartale will drop them soon (but dont forget mech is best class in tanker) i think now prs and mgs sadly in pvp than all char for a long time... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aceee 18 Report post Posted August 28, 2011 I´m not talking about BC or PVP, but the Pike in leveling togheter is useless... I´m a Mage and i do more dmg and tank definitely better than a Pike... Atm the Pike isn´t that good as he was years ago... Greets Aceee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idanqwe 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2011 whining section? kill who? cl don't hits all hit yup, Pike can also miss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lifesgood 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2011 Balance should never be attempted with pvp only in mind this game is pve for the most part!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meeks 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2011 whining section? kill who? cl don't hits all hit yup, Pike can also miss. +1 check current pvp ranking...game is much more balanced now since u can see fighter knighs pike mech archer in top 10 overall ranking. in the past there only were pikes and maybe 1-2 knights/fighters... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
punkrocke 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2011 plus now i can run with my mech full tank and not get kill by 1hko, now there isnt a char who can kill a mech full tank 1 vs 1 and it should always be this way, of course full tank mech cant kill a any1 too but this should always be this way too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rye 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2011 bowmech is pretty obviously OP that all knows and pow mech is still OP, i thought problem is maximize but now is 100% but its still kill everyone so i suppose there are some hidden pow in the skill GS, maybe hidden Critical or sth like that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aroma_AGAIN 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2011 auto mech is OP , will be nerf soon. pow mech is better now , but still a bit OP ! Need to nerf attack too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geovane 78 Report post Posted August 28, 2011 auto mech is just ridiculous atm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meeks 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2011 bowmech is pretty obviously OP that all knows and pow mech is still OP, i thought problem is maximize but now is 100% but its still kill everyone so i suppose there are some hidden pow in the skill GS, maybe hidden Critical or sth like that yeah the hidden effect in GS is that u miss a lot with that skill compared to other 1v1 skills.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAKINA 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2011 The DMG of MS is to high... but, mech miss a lot, then some guys, think GS don't kill. But when mech don't miss, is a huge dmg. I already did a suggestion where we decrease the % Dmg Boost of GS , and increase the Atk Rtg. But, now Mech is a char tanker, that is him characteristic,now the ATK of mech can be nerfed without opinions. Just logic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D]ohkito 2 Report post Posted August 29, 2011 ^ Said all for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idanqwe 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2011 The DMG of MS is to high... but, mech miss a lot, then some guys, think GS don't kill. But when mech don't miss, is a huge dmg. I already did a suggestion where we decrease the % Dmg Boost of GS , and increase the Atk Rtg. But, now Mech is a char tanker, that is him characteristic,now the ATK of mech can be nerfed without opinions. Just logic. Nope, mech meant to choose between being a tanker or a power mech. Cut the bullshit please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkPunker 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2011 it be changed when everybody donate to change MS class! Money ~ MS IS A SH1T NOW..! POWERFULL... PFFFF! AND PS IS SUX NOW...! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[]LoSt°PiKe[] 1 Report post Posted August 29, 2011 Mech have big Abs and Def and atk good too Pike now is very poor class Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MAKINA 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2011 The DMG of MS is to high... but, mech miss a lot, then some guys, think GS don't kill. But when mech don't miss, is a huge dmg. I already did a suggestion where we decrease the % Dmg Boost of GS , and increase the Atk Rtg. But, now Mech is a char tanker, that is him characteristic,now the ATK of mech can be nerfed without opinions. Just logic. Nope, mech meant to choose between being a tanker or a power mech. Cut the bullshit please What u are saying is bullshit, u think PT is how 5 years AGO? IS NOT! Wake up noob. Today exist only 3 mechs. Spark, Auto or Normal Mech. DONE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upperhand 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2011 You whiners keep it up you will ruinien specs for every class. I've seen it happen and huge delays put on every character so that is what balace? You will never satisfy people and you will always complain about someone being more powerful then the other. Personally if you don't like the specs you can change characters. I wouldn't even have discussions like this on here personaly just keep it in builds on forum. If someone complains give them a warning and get them off forums. enough is enough. Whatever sandurr does or whoever in this server to spec characters its always better then it was years ago. You can never have total perfect balance. I vote to give warnings to whiners and get them off here. I don't have a mech but i always liked them and had them before and personally its about time the mech got a better class of skills after all these years now you people complain. voltron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingvn 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2011 You whiners keep it up you will ruinien specs for every class. I've seen it happen and huge delays put on every character so that is what balace? You will never satisfy people and you will always complain about someone being more powerful then the other. Personally if you don't like the specs you can change characters. I wouldn't even have discussions like this on here personaly just keep it in builds on forum. If someone complains give them a warning and get them off forums. enough is enough. Whatever sandurr does or whoever in this server to spec characters its always better then it was years ago. You can never have total perfect balance. I vote to give warnings to whiners and get them off here. I don't have a mech but i always liked them and had them before and personally its about time the mech got a better class of skills after all these years now you people complain. voltron Ur suggestion is rly bullshit. People complain when their own interests are not satisfied. Ur a mage, just ignore it. Complaining = get warning and banned = fascism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idanqwe 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2011 The DMG of MS is to high... but, mech miss a lot, then some guys, think GS don't kill. But when mech don't miss, is a huge dmg. I already did a suggestion where we decrease the % Dmg Boost of GS , and increase the Atk Rtg. But, now Mech is a char tanker, that is him characteristic,now the ATK of mech can be nerfed without opinions. Just logic. Nope, mech meant to choose between being a tanker or a power mech. Cut the bullshit please What u are saying is bullshit, u think PT is how 5 years AGO? IS NOT! Wake up noob. Today exist only 3 mechs. Spark, Auto or Normal Mech. DONE 5 years ago there were power mechs too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caeuterere 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2011 When we make a pikeman what we want?? PVP!!! we know pike is only good to PVP, but now, not even for PVP. Plz make CS good again btw for the topic mech > pike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meeks 0 Report post Posted September 1, 2011 When we make a pikeman what we want?? PVP!!! we know pike is only good to PVP, but now, not even for PVP. Plz make CS good again btw for the topic mech > pike epic fail! check kill/death ratio of RzO. and kitkid and compare that with ratio of mechs. only Watchman is near that because of his lvl. for same lvl check kitkid vs Bi-USD. pikes still can tank more in pvp while say have to fight with 2handed and mech has to stay with 1handed, or mech would go down in an instant... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites