Reaala55 74 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) On 5/4/2022 at 7:21 PM, RaiseAgain said: I agree with you.on that point bro .. but that what i mean by choose your char . Fs is more pvp char then pve char ..simple as that ... if aby class can be god in pve and pvp game will be boring ... choose your char depend on your style its the best advice i can give you. But the other classes are good on both lol. At least to go on luminosa cavern all of them are more usefull than fs, and pvp too Edited May 6, 2022 by Reaala55 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiseAgain 262 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Reaala55 said: But the other classes are good on both lol. At least to go on luminosa cavern all of them are more usefull than fs, and pvp too Just trust me on that ... fs is best meele char atm ... for pvp and lc .. Edited May 6, 2022 by RaiseAgain 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mjizzy_7 1,897 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 3 hours ago, RaiseAgain said: Just trust me on that ... fs is best meele char atm ... for pvp and lc .. i need to confirm that 100%. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerShark22 488 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, RaiseAgain said: Just trust me on that ... fs is best meele char atm ... for pvp and lc .. What? "Trust me..."- thats not a solid reason. "Best melee char for PVP"- watch fs vs bs. Results? A 160 BS with 2 gems, not sure how many relics/gear can kill a fs with 1 crit+1 regular (1 crit with retaliation ) with her spamable skill. The fs is 166, with 4 gems, full relics ( literally every possible 1), full gears. That fs can't even kill her with 2 crits with his 2h weapon ( and ofc, never with 1h). And ofc, hes being stomped, despite being a 1v1 char too, and supposedly, high brute force char too. Prs is also, dominating to the lvl its ridiculous with her 34% dmg reduction, freeze, decent attack speed, literally tanks like ks (lucky stats), has 3.7 secs invincible mode+debuff clearance. SW ? SS is pretty dominating. He has much higher damage, tanks much better, has range to avoid "hell zones"/influence the battle from different spots , has speed buff for his party. Prs is also, pretty dominating, can't even list it all Team fights? SS- tanks around the same, kills slightly less, buff his mates. There are ofc ata/as/prs- when prs is pretty much the star of overall BC. PVE? As some1 who played fs with good gear ( close to ideal, only lacked 144 armor, had drax, 142 axe etc) , I can say this: Fs AOE damage is good in case he can tank/isn't being hit. At LC- you can't run away from being hit due to crap range. That's not 1v1 so hp doesn't save you. Low abs+low deff+normal block+0 evasion. ( Everyone knows that ks tanks better, but Ill add something interesting- pike literally tanks better. Played all the 3 here to confirm it. And pike can avoid being hit- tornado's range+vanish, and dodge when poison. FS doesn't). Atm fs is nice only at killing mobs at 1v1 with a tank. (Even there, hes not the top killer- there are some classes who are above him). And killing 1v1 without a tank- pretty decent, again not excelling. AOE- in case u can tank, u are pretty good. Yet again, there are classes who are better. Yet- in LC cant call it being able to tank, and hes too close to the tanker. Not wanting him to tank here, but at least can give him bigger AOE area, so he can play better with the tanker. Cause atm there's no point for this dmg if hes being punished too much due to bad range+aoe area. I can list classes who are either completely dominate him/are overally better PVE and PvP. For PVE- mage ( trivial of completely dominating), mech, ks, ss, ata, as ( mixed list of the 2 categories ). PVP- mech & prs ( completely dominates ), BS. There are more, but I don't intend mentioning them so it won't become a long pvp topic, which is way off the purpose of this topic, PVE of fs. Edited May 6, 2022 by TigerShark22 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keshy 1,385 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said: What? "Trust me..."- thats not a solid reason. "Best melee char for PVP"- watch fs vs bs. Results? A 160 BS with 2 gems, not sure how many relics/gear can kill a fs with 1 crit+1 regular (1 crit with retaliation ) with her spamable skill. The fs is 166, with 4 gems, full relics ( literally every possible 1), full gears. That fs can't even kill her with 2 crits with his 2h weapon ( and ofc, never with 1h). And ofc, hes being stomped, despite being a 1v1 char too, and supposedly, high brute force char too. The bs 160 you are talking about is WelcometoPVE. 1st he has Tulla,Greedy relic 2nd he has 2 strength gems 3rd he is full for you who are ignorant and think that this does not change, this is the answer. continue with your characters without relic and gem keep believing that DEFENSE is "useless" the problem here is that you and DeadlyWarrior don't know how to play and just keep talking nonsense on the forum and everyone knows it. Please learn to play Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerShark22 488 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Keshy said: The bs 160 you are talking about is WelcometoPVE. 1st he has Tulla,Greedy relic 2nd he has 2 strength gems 3rd he is full for you who are ignorant and think that this does not change, this is the answer. continue with your characters without relic and gem keep believing that DEFENSE is "useless" the problem here is that you and DeadlyWarrior don't know how to play and just keep talking nonsense on the forum and everyone knows it. Please learn to play Did I mention my char? Did I ever say deff is useless? I did say that against that BS, there are no relics, or items which will save me. Against that BS, Ill only delay the inevitable at best. Dont put words I didn't say into my mouth. I also say that from the items, I lack 144 armor mostly, due to the deff diff. The rest-small diff, all together might be nice, but wont invest in it due to being a 70%-80% PVE player. Also, I was talking about Mjizzy. Full gears too, yet 4 gems, 166 ( 6 lvls+2 more gems from that BS), and all relics ( Centlon+drax relic too, in addition to WTP's relics). Hence, how can he be so disadvantaged? You keep dodging that because you know that either BS is OP, or fs is underpowred compared to her. The GM needs to match their 1v1 abillities to the lvl it makes sense. She has retaliation+belt, and 1 hit skill, fs has slighlly more speed. Both with the same brute force, when at lucky stats atm, fs has more deff, while BS has more penetration ( around the same as is atm) . Also you keep avoiding the fact that Im not a fs. Also you keep avoiding the fact that this is a PVE topic. Also you avoid the fact that I moved from a " pvp char " ( nonesense ofc, there is no pvp char, or at least shouldn't). To a PVE char ( among the melees). Also its hallirious that you guys failed to guess my class twice. Like you tried twice, and failed. Now you know after you got told, but it says something. Edited May 6, 2022 by TigerShark22 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadlyWarrior 688 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Keshy said: The bs 160 you are talking about is WelcometoPVE. 1st he has Tulla,Greedy relic 2nd he has 2 strength gems 3rd he is full for you who are ignorant and think that this does not change, this is the answer. continue with your characters without relic and gem keep believing that DEFENSE is "useless" the problem here is that you and DeadlyWarrior don't know how to play and just keep talking nonsense on the forum and everyone knows it. Please learn to play You'r a very toxic person and a champion in making false accusations and talk rubbish. I dont see you brining arguments. Also your not able to read and understand, like your living in your own bubble The other Person that said FS is the best Melee for PVP and LC: thats an unspecific statement and the value of that statement is zero What does best mean? Best in tanking? Best in killing? Best in potting? FS is FS and he has pros and cons. A statement of a level 166 FS full items with centlon brace does represent who? The 166+ Fighters best items? If we talk about Fighters like this, then we have to talk about Atalantas, Archers, Shaman, Priest, Pike, Brawler, Assassine, Mech, Mage etc all level 166+ best items. That would be fair and i accept a discussion like that. The problem is you guys dont know how science and statistic work. If many high levels best items changed to FS, PS, KS that doesnt mean the rest of the classes are weak. But we see now lower levels in the other classes in relation to FS, PS, KS and they facing each other in BC. Therefore your crying with your char. Why no one talk about Priest? In fact a level 160 Priest here with 140 items no draxos boots excells in 1vs1, BC, SW and PVE and no one cares. For months we had OP classes and FS way trash, no one cares about that of you guys, where you were? Talking TRASH that you were doing, like always. We were working hard to get this changes and make game better, and you have nothing to do then to spam here this Topic where someone say some points about FS for PVE. That shows that you guys are not correct and try to manipulate here. Dont know what interests your following here. There is no bad class for PVP, no class is bad. But you need OP classes you CANT play when its better balanced. Edited May 6, 2022 by DeadlyWarrior 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keshy 1,385 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said: Also you keep avoiding the fact that this is a PVE topic. 30 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said: "Best melee char for PVP"- watch fs vs bs. Results? A 160 BS with 2 gems, not sure how many relics/gear can kill a fs with 1 crit+1 regular (1 crit with retaliation ) with her spamable skill. The fs is 166, with 4 gems, full relics 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hulk 332 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said: I lack 144 armor mostly, due to the deff diff. The rest-small diff, all together might be nice, but wont invest in it due to being a 70%-80% PVE player. lacks armor, shield and a couple of fingers hahaha 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerShark22 488 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Keshy said: Answering PVP questions. Yet if u will read it fully, you will see that Im always trying to draw it back to PVE. 6 minutes ago, Hulk said: lacks armor, shield and a couple of fingers hahaha Many disagree with you. players from KOM, WTF, Karma and MIB. Yet again, this is a PVE topic of fs. And again, if Im not a fs, how is it related to the topic? This is not even an arguement for being biased, cause again, not a fs. As they say though- when you got 0 arguements which make sense, you try to attack the person. Thx for making it more obvious that you have nothing to contribute to the topic. Edited May 6, 2022 by TigerShark22 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadlyWarrior 688 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TigerShark22 said: Answering PVP questions. Yet if u will read it fully, you will see that Im always trying to draw it back to PVE. Many disagree with you. players from KOM, WTF, Karma and MIB. Yet again, this is a PVE topic of fs. And again, if Im not a fs, how is it related to the topic? This is not even an arguement for being biased, cause again, not a fs. As they say though- when you got 0 arguements which make sense, you try to attack the person. Thx for making it more obvious that you have nothing. Brainless and bored people, just spamming here. They are also angry because of this What kind of players, they dont even want to Pot and want a Mech to take all damage, so they can go LC with their trash items hard mode and drop 144 items But i KISS the HEAD of Overlady that knocked them all out there ? Edited May 6, 2022 by DeadlyWarrior 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,759 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 what Fs leaks on PvE is a niche. Raw damage is good and all, but unless the best of the best, can be replaced by a better one [ mage and assassin]. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keshy 1,385 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, DeadlyWarrior said: Brainless and bored people, just spamming here. They are also angry because of this What kind of players, they dont even want to Pot and want a Mech to take all damage, so they can go LC with their trash items But i KISS the HEAD of Overlady that knocked them all out there ? he didn't say the skill is disabled it's OP he said that the skill interferes with the question of being able to bug the monsters, stop being stupid and learn to interpret. read all the topics, only you 2 think you are smart, look at the ranking and see the top 50, and what classes they are. If BS is OP why didn't everyone see BS? If FS is weak why are there so many FS appearing lately? You're a joke 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerShark22 488 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Keshy said: he didn't say the skill is disabled it's OP he said that the skill interferes with the question of being able to bug the monsters, stop being stupid and learn to interpret. read all the topics, only you 2 think you are smart, look at the ranking and see the top 50, and what classes they are. If BS is OP why didn't everyone see BS? If FS is weak why are there so many FS appearing lately? You're a joke First, me and DeadlyWarrior not always agree. In that topic, we didn't for example. You can literally check it by actually reading my comment there. 2nd, you look at it wrong. Some people change to fs yes, but it was after some time it was a completely 0 abillities class, and many changed from fs. Yet-fs is 1 of the least popular classes, when class change was 1kc (2kc with 9 runes). For around playe some time, people had the option to change to fs, and they didnt. It was affordable and cheap, and they just didn't. Some didnt like the class, some didnt like its performance. Bottom line, still not a popular class, despite when a poll was done, fs got playe some love, and comments of" the only reason I dont play this class, is because they are clowns here...", Or ' I play other class, but my Heart belongs to the fighters". BS on the other hand suck at PVE completely ( in a server most of the players are PVErs ), expensive to maintain for PVE, and has 0 nostalgy. Also some personal liking plays a role, but this is a new class with 0 nostalgy. There are some more reasons, yet PVP is defiantly not 1 of them. And literally almost all the server agrees about that. You can ask for a PVE buff for your char instead of :" why BS isn't popular". Many support it. I dont say much about BS's PVE, cause I don't have enough knowledge about her in PVE. ( Except for the trivial knowledge, of her being the best tanker for 1v1 SS, above ks , who uses 2h, and her tanking pretty much like SS in 1 vs many enemies, having melee range). Now back to fs- it got some abillities , and both of us would like to see him doing well in PVE too. The fact that he got a bone, doesn't mean that it's over. Edited May 6, 2022 by TigerShark22 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mjizzy_7 1,897 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, TigerShark22 said: What? "Trust me..."- thats not a solid reason. "Best melee char for PVP"- watch fs vs bs. Results? A 160 BS with 2 gems, not sure how many relics/gear can kill a fs with 1 crit+1 regular (1 crit with retaliation ) with her spamable skill. The fs is 166, with 4 gems, full relics ( literally every possible 1), full gears. That fs can't even kill her with 2 crits with his 2h weapon ( and ofc, never with 1h). And ofc, hes being stomped, despite being a 1v1 char too, and supposedly, high brute force char too. Prs is also, dominating to the lvl its ridiculous with her 34% dmg reduction, freeze, decent attack speed, literally tanks like ks (lucky stats), has 3.7 secs invincible mode+debuff clearance. SW ? SS is pretty dominating. He has much higher damage, tanks much better, has range to avoid "hell zones"/influence the battle from different spots , has speed buff for his party. Prs is also, pretty dominating, can't even list it all Team fights? SS- tanks around the same, kills slightly less, buff his mates. There are ofc ata/as/prs- when prs is pretty much the star of overall BC. PVE? As some1 who played fs with good gear ( close to ideal, only lacked 144 armor, had drax, 142 axe etc) , I can say this: Fs AOE damage is good in case he can tank/isn't being hit. At LC- you can't run away from being hit due to crap range. That's not 1v1 so hp doesn't save you. Low abs+low deff+normal block+0 evasion. ( Everyone knows that ks tanks better, but Ill add something interesting- pike literally tanks better. Played all the 3 here to confirm it. And pike can avoid being hit- tornado's range+vanish, and dodge when poison. FS doesn't). Atm fs is nice only at killing mobs at 1v1 with a tank. (Even there, hes not the top killer- there are some classes who are above him). And killing 1v1 without a tank- pretty decent, again not excelling. AOE- in case u can tank, u are pretty good. Yet again, there are classes who are better. Yet- in LC cant call it being able to tank, and hes too close to the tanker. Not wanting him to tank here, but at least can give him bigger AOE area, so he can play better with the tanker. Cause atm there's no point for this dmg if hes being punished too much due to bad range+aoe area. I can list classes who are either completely dominate him/are overally better PVE and PvP. For PVE- mage ( trivial of completely dominating), mech, ks, ss, ata, as ( mixed list of the 2 categories ). PVP- mech & prs ( completely dominates ), BS. There are more, but I don't intend mentioning them so it won't become a long pvp topic, which is way off the purpose of this topic, PVE of fs. mhhh the thing is battle town is diff then bc. I think in bc with all the buffs Fs is stronger in X1 then bs Edited May 6, 2022 by Moussi7 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
covidkilla 414 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 5 hours ago, TigerShark22 said: What? "Trust me..."- thats not a solid reason. "Best melee char for PVP"- watch fs vs bs. Results? A 160 BS with 2 gems, not sure how many relics/gear can kill a fs with 1 crit+1 regular (1 crit with retaliation ) with her spamable skill. The fs is 166, with 4 gems, full relics ( literally every possible 1), full gears. That fs can't even kill her with 2 crits with his 2h weapon ( and ofc, never with 1h). And ofc, hes being stomped, despite being a 1v1 char too, and supposedly, high brute force char too. Prs is also, dominating to the lvl its ridiculous with her 34% dmg reduction, freeze, decent attack speed, literally tanks like ks (lucky stats), has 3.7 secs invincible mode+debuff clearance. SW ? SS is pretty dominating. He has much higher damage, tanks much better, has range to avoid "hell zones"/influence the battle from different spots , has speed buff for his party. Prs is also, pretty dominating, can't even list it all Team fights? SS- tanks around the same, kills slightly less, buff his mates. There are ofc ata/as/prs- when prs is pretty much the star of overall BC. PVE? As some1 who played fs with good gear ( close to ideal, only lacked 144 armor, had drax, 142 axe etc) , I can say this: Fs AOE damage is good in case he can tank/isn't being hit. At LC- you can't run away from being hit due to crap range. That's not 1v1 so hp doesn't save you. Low abs+low deff+normal block+0 evasion. ( Everyone knows that ks tanks better, but Ill add something interesting- pike literally tanks better. Played all the 3 here to confirm it. And pike can avoid being hit- tornado's range+vanish, and dodge when poison. FS doesn't). Atm fs is nice only at killing mobs at 1v1 with a tank. (Even there, hes not the top killer- there are some classes who are above him). And killing 1v1 without a tank- pretty decent, again not excelling. AOE- in case u can tank, u are pretty good. Yet again, there are classes who are better. Yet- in LC cant call it being able to tank, and hes too close to the tanker. Not wanting him to tank here, but at least can give him bigger AOE area, so he can play better with the tanker. Cause atm there's no point for this dmg if hes being punished too much due to bad range+aoe area. I can list classes who are either completely dominate him/are overally better PVE and PvP. For PVE- mage ( trivial of completely dominating), mech, ks, ss, ata, as ( mixed list of the 2 categories ). PVP- mech & prs ( completely dominates ), BS. There are more, but I don't intend mentioning them so it won't become a long pvp topic, which is way off the purpose of this topic, PVE of fs. You take a fighter and a brawler into BC war for 30 minutes, In that same time a fighter will be able to kill more enemy than a brawler can. It's just a fact. Yes 1vs1 duel brawlers odds are better, but keep in mind most PVP in this game is BC wars. Overall Fighters are way more likely to kill brawlers. Doesnt matter what level what items you try to make a comparison with... Fighters have better odds. If brawlers werent so slow , and they didnt miss so many hits ... then okay brawlers are best for PVP. But that is not the current situation today. Brawlers are like the 4th best class to choose for a PVP character. Hence why this class is so unpopular in this server for PVP 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mjizzy_7 1,897 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 1 minute ago, covidkilla said: You take a fighter and a brawler into BC war for 30 minutes, In that same time a fighter will be able to kill more enemy than a brawler can. It's just a fact. Yes 1vs1 duel brawlers odds are better, but keep in mind most PVP in this game is BC wars. Overall Fighters are way more likely to kill brawlers. Doesnt matter what level what items you try to make a comparison with... Fighters have better odds. If brawlers werent so slow , and they didnt miss so many hits ... then okay brawlers are best for PVP. But that is not the current situation today. Brawlers are like the 4th best class to choose for a PVP character. Hence why this class is so unpopular in this server for PVP yes thats what i mean, Fs is the better class in Wars cause he can make many kills, i often end up 100+ kills in wars same -Karma- and _n00b_ cause Fs with high end items is just a beast 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadlyWarrior 688 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 41 minutes ago, Moussi7 said: yes thats what i mean, Fs is the better class in Wars cause he can make many kills, i often end up 100+ kills in wars same -Karma- and _n00b_ cause Fs with high end items is just a beast Check your levels 166-171 Your killing same levels too? Thats the Question 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prateado 494 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 5 hours ago, DeadlyWarrior said: You'r a very toxic person and a champion in making false accusations and talk rubbish. I dont see you brining arguments. Also your not able to read and understand, like your living in your own bubble The other Person that said FS is the best Melee for PVP and LC: thats an unspecific statement and the value of that statement is zero What does best mean? Best in tanking? Best in killing? Best in potting? FS is FS and he has pros and cons. A statement of a level 166 FS full items with centlon brace does represent who? The 166+ Fighters best items? If we talk about Fighters like this, then we have to talk about Atalantas, Archers, Shaman, Priest, Pike, Brawler, Assassine, Mech, Mage etc all level 166+ best items. That would be fair and i accept a discussion like that. The problem is you guys dont know how science and statistic work. If many high levels best items changed to FS, PS, KS that doesnt mean the rest of the classes are weak. But we see now lower levels in the other classes in relation to FS, PS, KS and they facing each other in BC. Therefore your crying with your char. Why no one talk about Priest? In fact a level 160 Priest here with 140 items no draxos boots excells in 1vs1, BC, SW and PVE and no one cares. For months we had OP classes and FS way trash, no one cares about that of you guys, where you were? Talking TRASH that you were doing, like always. We were working hard to get this changes and make game better, and you have nothing to do then to spam here this Topic where someone say some points about FS for PVE. That shows that you guys are not correct and try to manipulate here. Dont know what interests your following here. There is no bad class for PVP, no class is bad. But you need OP classes you CANT play when its better balanced. nice to see u talking about someone no full items, do u remenber when u talked about u cant kill trying to people think u are full items hahahaha, let me know that prs have much more items than u, there are many other prs with better items than her and they cant defeat her battle point 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadlyWarrior 688 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Prateado said: nice to see u talking about someone no full items, do u remenber when u talked about u cant kill trying to people think u are full items hahahaha, let me know that prs have much more items than u, there are many other prs with better items than her and they cant defeat her battle point I only remember that you was trying to fool us that AS "is weak" when in fact it was OP and your were trying to protect AS when it was OP. That i remember good About PVP: do you see me in BC or something? Sad, this topic was about PVE and it turned to a useless discussion Edited May 6, 2022 by DeadlyWarrior 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prateado 494 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, DeadlyWarrior said: I only remember that you was trying to fool us that AS "is weak" when in fact it was OP and your were trying to protect AS when it was OP. That i remember good About PVP: do you see me in BC or something? Sad, this topic was about PVE and it turned to a useless discussion i never said as was weak, maybe u dont know to read ? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerShark22 488 Report post Posted May 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Moussi7 said: yes thats what i mean, Fs is the better class in Wars cause he can make many kills, i often end up 100+ kills in wars same -Karma- and _n00b_ cause Fs with high end items is just a beast 1.The top fighters you are accounting are higher lvl with better gears in general compared to the BS player base. 2. In wars, fs will get more kills? What wars? Team fights- yes. SW- no. In SW BS is miles better. She tanks much better, and deals much more damage. In 1v1 shes also miles better. Elaborated above about how much better. Hence shes better overall. Yet you missed the point of the topic. 1 hour ago, covidkilla said: You take a fighter and a brawler into BC war for 30 minutes, In that same time a fighter will be able to kill more enemy than a brawler can. It's just a fact. Yes 1vs1 duel brawlers odds are better, but keep in mind most PVP in this game is BC wars. Overall Fighters are way more likely to kill brawlers. Doesnt matter what level what items you try to make a comparison with... Fighters have better odds. If brawlers werent so slow , and they didnt miss so many hits ... then okay brawlers are best for PVP. But that is not the current situation today. Brawlers are like the 4th best class to choose for a PVP character. Hence why this class is so unpopular in this server for PVP Read above. Also, this is not a pvp discussion. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellokitty 11 Report post Posted October 4, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 7:34 PM, crezza said: This is my thoughtFS need a REWORK on the skills to make him viable to PVE because its not playable as newplayer/returnee the way it is now -Boost Health needs to be changed to %%% ! -Flame Vortex need a small buff in the skill such as "takes less dmg while in vortex (at least in PVE)" -If Boost Health change to %%% could make some skills cost more HP/SP and low MP cost -High risk-High Reward should be something that makes FS FUN both in PvP/PvE . -Improvement or Removal of Hellion Pet -Charge in PVE could use "takes less dmg for 2s after charge" What is fun in playing a super close-range character that cant stand in the middle of the mobs for a while without getting destroyed by 50mobs?Overall- FS need more SURVIVABILITY (PVE) to make him fun and viable to play with I gree: High risk-High Reward should be something that makes FS FUN both in PvP/PvE . -Boost Health needs to be changed to %%% ! Charge in PVE could use "takes less dmg for 2s after charge" To solve the problem of survival Hellion Pet uesless。 KS ASS PS BS don't have Pet also. Have a other question: Why sword have higher ctil than other weapons high . The sword seems to be the strongest weapon(VIP) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites