kelv 4 Report post Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) EDIT: upon further investigation the pvp balance was fair for the archers , archers damage nerf was the right thing to do. Please ignore the comments above Edited May 28, 2022 by kelv edit 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollyShot 1,003 Report post Posted May 28, 2022 +1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Mjizzy_7 1,946 Report post Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) I think the main problem is the community. They abused rangers so hard that the Staff had no choice to nerf it like that. A 155 Archer could kill people with 2 phoenix shoots and that's crazy. As is still strong but not op like before .i see high lvl Archers in bc like example Mid9walker , rarely to kill her/him and the Dmg is strong too. Check a Archer with full items + gems im sure it's still good. Maybe I'm wrong but this should be checked. In my Eyes right now Assassin, MS needs a buff in bc, Bs need more attack speed and nerf in tank. Assassin,Bs need buff in Pve I won't say -1 cause in my opinion this topic should be done if there are archers with full items +gems and at least Tulla Coat + Greedy + Drax + Cent tested that class in Bc. Edited May 28, 2022 by Mjizzy_7 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiseAgain 262 Report post Posted May 28, 2022 I believe as Queen is full ?? And he strong . 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mjizzy_7 1,946 Report post Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 10:52 AM, RaiseAgain said: I believe as Queen is full ?? And he strong . Read more exactly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelv 4 Report post Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 9:17 AM, Mjizzy_7 said: I think the main problem is the community. They abused rangers so hard that the Staff had no choice to nerf it like that. A 155 Archer could kill people with 2 phoenix shoots and that's crazy. As is still strong but not op like before .i see high lvl Archers in bc like example Mid9walker , rarely to kill her/him and the Dmg is strong too. Check a Archer with full items + gems im sure it's still good. Maybe I'm wrong but this should be checked. In my Eyes right now Assassin, MS needs a buff in bc, Bs need more attack speed and nerf in tank. Assassin,Bs need buff in Pve I won't say -1 cause in my opinion this topic should be done if there are archers with full items +gems and at least Tulla Coat + Greedy + Drax + Cent tested that class in Bc. Read more I Think you are right, my claim was a little off. You are right archers had way to much damage with phoenix shot. a 148 could kill high level 16x. The damage they have today is good like you said, they can still compete and get many kills like midnightwalker. On 5/28/2022 at 4:07 AM, HollyShot said: +1 Read more I'm sorry I got your hopes up you probably thought yay finally someone else agrees with archers and how they need more damage ... but this is not the case. I read some of your recent posts about archers , I think your a little delusional about archers you keep saying you want them to be as equal as other classes in terms of damage... i think that's your biggest disconnect in terms of classes having their own identity. You cant expect your archer to be able to do the same damage as a fighter or pikeman ... its an archer she shouldnt be able to deal the same damage as other classes. You are fighting for something that doesn't exist and shouldn't exist in this game anymore.. it sounds like you should change class to fighter or pikeman since you love their damage so much. You trying to get your archer to do the same damage as these classes shows how delusional you are about archers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollyShot 1,003 Report post Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) On 5/28/2022 at 10:52 AM, RaiseAgain said: I believe as Queen is full ?? And he strong . Read more yes she is 169 full relic/centlon, now compare her with a fs/ps/bs/ks with these items, she can't do half of them. On 5/28/2022 at 1:23 PM, kelv said: I Think you are right, my claim was a little off. You are right archers had way to much damage with phoenix shot. a 148 could kill high level 16x. The damage they have today is good like you said, they can still compete and get many kills like midnightwalker. I'm sorry I got your hopes up you probably thought yay finally someone else agrees with archers and how they need more damage ... but this is not the case. I read some of your recent posts about archers , I think your a little delusional about archers you keep saying you want them to be as equal as other classes in terms of damage... i think that's your biggest disconnect in terms of classes having their own identity. You cant expect your archer to be able to do the same damage as a fighter or pikeman ... its an archer she shouldnt be able to deal the same damage as other classes. You are fighting for something that doesn't exist and shouldn't exist in this game anymore.. it sounds like you should change class to fighter or pikeman since you love their damage so much. You trying to get your archer to do the same damage as these classes shows how delusional you are about archers. Read more hi covidkilla ( ka kelvin) i feel sorry for you, creating a new acc after getting perm ban for being a garb scammer, i hope staff bans you for IP in forum too, you will be forever dirty for the community. You are reported in this acc too. On 5/28/2022 at 9:17 AM, Mjizzy_7 said: I think the main problem is the community. They abused rangers so hard that the Staff had no choice to nerf it like that. A 155 Archer could kill people with 2 phoenix shoots and that's crazy. As is still strong but not op like before .i see high lvl Archers in bc like example Mid9walker , rarely to kill her/him and the Dmg is strong too. Check a Archer with full items + gems im sure it's still good. Maybe I'm wrong but this should be checked. In my Eyes right now Assassin, MS needs a buff in bc, Bs need more attack speed and nerf in tank. Assassin,Bs need buff in Pve I won't say -1 cause in my opinion this topic should be done if there are archers with full items +gems and at least Tulla Coat + Greedy + Drax + Cent tested that class in Bc. Read more You were one of the "ranger abuser" like you said, i remember you saying you were "main atalanta" but was one of the first to change to FS after the "balance", why didnt you stay ranger if it's still strong? Oh, i remember "buy atk rating" and how much you said they fked rangers etc, now that you are fs is easy to say that rangers just need items haha Edited May 28, 2022 by HollyShot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mjizzy_7 1,946 Report post Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 3:56 PM, HollyShot said: yes she is 169 full relic/centlon, now compare her with a fs/ps/bs/ks with these items, she can't do half of them. hi covidkilla ( ka kelvin) i feel sorry for you, creating a new acc after getting perm ban for being a garb scammer, i hope staff bans you for IP in forum too, you will be forever dirty for the community. You are reported in this acc too. You were one of the "ranger abuser" like you said, i remember you saying you were "main atalanta" but was one of the first to change to FS after the "balance", why didnt you stay ranger if it's still strong? Oh, i remember "buy atk rating" and how much you said they fked rangers etc, now that you are fs is easy to say that rangers just need items haha Read more Ppl who know me will confirm my main Charas are Ks/Ata. I was the first who changed to Fs? Bad infos i was Ks for over 1 month. I changed from Ata because we know ppl like run after me in bc cause they happy kill me since its a pleasure for them kill a Strong guy like me. Ata had no chance to survive in bc since it doesnt has the speed to run like As and cant Stun like as too. She get hunted easy by fs/ps . The only reason ? who want to be strong should start build his own chara instead of hiding behind high end charas. ps: queen can kill fs/ps easy in wars even full items +gems + relics charas Have a good day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollyShot 1,003 Report post Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 5:24 PM, Mjizzy_7 said: Ppl who know me will confirm my main Charas are Ks/Ata. I was the first who changed to Fs? Bad infos i was Ks for over 1 month. I changed from Ata because we know ppl like run after me in bc cause they happy kill me since its a pleasure for them kill a Strong guy like me. Ata had no chance to survive in bc since it doesnt has the speed to run like As and cant Stun like as too. She get hunted easy by fs/ps . The only reason ? who want to be strong should start build his own chara instead of hiding behind high end charas. ps: queen can kill fs/ps easy in wars even full items +gems + relics charas Have a good day Read more i said one of the firsts, also changed to ks and back to fs in the same day, must be sad need to play only in broken classes for a good performance ps: queen has no chance against any fs/ps/ks with similar items/lvl have a nice day 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mjizzy_7 1,946 Report post Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 5:31 PM, HollyShot said: i said one of the firsts, also changed to ks and back to fs in the same day, must be sad need to play only in broken classes for a good performance ps: queen has no chance against any fs/ps/ks with similar items/lvl have a nice day Read more Ok playboy ? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey 98 Report post Posted May 28, 2022 -1 Archer still pretty good.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anghel0506 153 Report post Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 5:31 PM, HollyShot said: must be sad need to play only in broken classes for a good performance Read more What char are u playing now, sir? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollyShot 1,003 Report post Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 6:34 PM, Anghel0506 said: What char are u playing now, sir? ? Read more depends on the day babe 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivan0012 326 Report post Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) +1it was nerfed because the new bow will have a lot of attack and crit.... Edited May 28, 2022 by ivan0012 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dog123 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 7:28 PM, HollyShot said: depends on the day babe Read more Hahah how does it feel to not own your own account... must be tiring to ask owner to extend share password. Remember when you said you owned kyron and said your full gems almost full relic and acted like you owned all of that ? Like you paid for all of that ? Can you imagine your life ... you need to lie about owning items that aren't even yours. What happen when share pass end or Kom kick you from clan who's account will you play? You will say please daddy I need to borrow money to buy items and char for game... daddy will say no cryon then you'll say but please daddy I've been a good little boy all week and I didn't pee my pants all week I need my allowance to buy char to play. Then daddy says okay here's 50 reas go have fun kkkkk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollyShot 1,003 Report post Posted May 29, 2022 On 5/29/2022 at 12:40 PM, Dog123 said: Hahah how does it feel to not own your own account... must be tiring to ask owner to extend share password. Remember when you said you owned kyron and said your full gems almost full relic and acted like you owned all of that ? Like you paid for all of that ? Can you imagine your life ... you need to lie about owning items that aren't even yours. What happen when share pass end or Kom kick you from clan who's account will you play? You will say please daddy I need to borrow money to buy items and char for game... daddy will say no cryon then you'll say but please daddy I've been a good little boy all week and I didn't pee my pants all week I need my allowance to buy char to play. Then daddy says okay here's 50 reas go have fun kkkkk Read more I don't know, is that your reality? aw i feel bad for you cant afford a char in the game you play kkkkkkkkkk 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thichlam2010 157 Report post Posted May 29, 2022 -1 Blinkute lv157 no gem, no relic but still on top pvp As, ranger so strong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TigerShark22 490 Report post Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) -1. Rangers ( as too ) are literally too good. Btw- her damage wasn't nerfed. Everyone's damage got lower. What was nerfed is the crit multiplier of ***everyone***. The main change was an AR-Deff balance to melees and magic who got a buff, and rangers, who got a nerf ( and a justified 1). If their brute force can compete melee's, there's 0 excuse why melees, who must fight in close combat won't have good lucky stats. ( and rangers have some more tweaks beside lucky stats, such as range, running speed and attack speed/can stop their skill per hit and not 2 etc). Edited June 3, 2022 by TigerShark22 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites