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haha its funny until today , i never really understood how all these priests in SS were being used when i saw it always looked robotic but turns out they are using virtual machine which i never knew about... isn't that crazy this games allowing third party software to be used in the game to help leveling... this is a huge problem. And it has been going on forever. 

 

My concern is where the priorities of this server lies , this server is allowing virtual machine to continue going that is making the ability to level so much faster I mean look we already have so many 17x accounts  its clear virtual machines have impacted the leveling system of this game. and this has been going on forever.

 

 

Priorities : wartale punishes so many member for small things like boosting in BC or the most random things like a comment made and you get chat ban... but they are allowing virtual machines to be used in the game... where do their priorities lie it seems like they are tackling the small problems and ignoring the real major problems its kind of backwards to be honest. 

 

 

 

Apparently windows 7 is needed to use this software and I heard some people cant use this abuse anymore , I hope that this is the case because this kind of abuse should not exist in the game. And I think staff should take accountability for how long they have let this go on for.

 

 

 

Gm's need to remember that the community watches what they do , if we see you ban a player for abusing bc but your not stopping the ability to use virtual machine for leveling the community is just going to think poorly of gm's. 

 

 

 

Also , this virtual machine is dominantly used by xp service people , and these people dont play the game for fun and enjoyment they play for the RMT  they want the money so stop allowing them to use these third party software for xping 

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Keshy
29 minutes ago, Coyote said:

Everything is allowed my friend :). Regards.

 

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2017....

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moobie1988

who is flouks? 2017?

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NeoHiei
25 minutes ago, moobie1988 said:

who is flouks? 2017?

probably old gm account, they change the name when the account is deactivated

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Neither
10 minutes ago, NeoHiei said:

probably old gm account, they change the name when the account is deactivated

 

No, flouks was just a rondom guy with some knowledge. His not a GM.

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Boogieman
30 minutes ago, Coyote said:

Go to Shadow Sanctuary Map ODIN right now. There you will see that 2022 is same (or even worse) than 2017.

  

 

 

yes its worse sadly ? ... hopefully gm fix this.

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NeoHiei
2 hours ago, Neither said:

 

No, flouks was just a rondom guy with some knowledge. His not a GM.

thanks for the info brother!

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wolf0119

If anyone has a tutorial on how to do it, let me know here, I'll be on the lookout, I want to be part of the AFK legal team ??

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-DarkSide-

I also want to learn how to do this, does anyone have a tutorial on how to do this trick?

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kamuynoturno

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23 minutes ago, wolf0119 said:

If anyone has a tutorial on how to do it, let me know here, I'll be on the lookout, I want to be part of the AFK legal team ??

Download any Macro and place it outside the VM to click inside the VM ready you have your macro 100% effective drop it on the map and go to sleep

 

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kamuynoturno
12 minutes ago, Support said:

This is very bad suggestion unless this is a joke.

 

It is also breaking the rules for sharing 3rd party apps too.

I'm making fun of him, but that's exactly what they're doing with VMware. Today, even with MAC or Linux, you can play wartale without needing VMware, I really would like to block the use of this program to reduce the number of bots. 12 accounts logged into the same Mac address it is physically impossible for the person to be playing on all accounts at the same time for 15/16 hours straight

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Clem

Didn’t know that kind of program was allowed in Wartale …. 
 

Kinda sad to be honest since it’s a kind of auto playing (bot). 

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Undisputed
2 hours ago, Coyote said:

I told you guys, everything is allowed ?.
Lets go to use it too and be happy.

 

P.S. Poor guys who have to work up to 12 times more to put their 12 prist to heal 24/7 without stopping for a second hahaha. Admirable.

Hard core only stack screens and multiple accounts pot and click 

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kamuynoturno
1 minute ago, Support said:

Do you have any prove that that is played by 1 person and 3rd party software been using for potting and AFK? Because I patrol maps daily and I see people response to me and if they don't, we all know the answer.

 

As long as they are not using 3rd party software and/or AFK we can't do anything because there is no rules against them on how many character they can play on.

 

About blocking VM, it is our Dev's call to make. 

Only you log in with your /hide to be on the side of Mr@HuyHoang or Dissent's group that will have your test. I think it's kind of impossible for the skills to be used always at the same time without using third-party programs

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Boogieman
22 minutes ago, Support said:

Do you have any prove that that is played by 1 person and 3rd party software been using for potting and AFK? Because I patrol maps daily and I see people response to me and if they don't, we all know the answer.

 

As long as they are not using 3rd party software and/or AFK we can't do anything because there is no rules against them on how many character they can play on.

 

About blocking VM, it is our Dev's call to make. 

 

 

But you must admit watching that video @Coyote posted it really displays how people are playing this game in a very auto robotic AFK type of style , it further takes away the player from actually playing the game. You must admit that nothing good comes from playing this type of way and who knows what they are doing exactly they have been doing it for years and im sure by now they are professionals at it.

 

 

 

Also your asking us to prove something we clearly cannot prove, how can we prove that its played by one person, an independent player who witnesses this cant gather that type of proof. It's up to staff to really keep an eye on these parties that are running hours and hours and to watch what's going on .

 

 

I think the virtual machine is mostly being used by xp service people, its not the normal players who xp the traditional way. My opinion, traditional xp is a better system where your there at all times playing the game 

 

since when does a game allow virtual machines to let your priests automatically buff you... it just sounds like cheating to me. I would have ended that long time ago.

 

 

If someone is playing this game and there too lazy to xp the normal way , then they can find another game. If they want to use this machine to be more afk then clearly they dont want

 

to play the game. When I log on its because I want to play,   these players using the machine are running full-time xp service business... dont you see in trade chat people posting

 

 

S> XP SERVICE 12HR PER DAY.... 12 hour per day lol that must be some good virtual machine or whatever else they are using  you think people are doing 12hrs + xp service per day to buy their own character new items...  trust me they have other motivations. No one does 12 hours xp service per day to then buy items for their acc. 

 

 

You really need to focus on this more.. its a business not a game to them. stop protecting 12 hours + per day xp service players

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Neither
10 minutes ago, Support said:

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As long as they don't AFK and using software to can't really do much.

 


So, what are you saying is: it’s ok to use 3rd party software and or VM AS LONG you are NOT AFK ?

So I can run 24accs on my pc with 12 acc and 12 mules, and look for each one to verify your not around and answer you if needed ?

 

To me seems you got a problem that you don’t want to deal with.

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Neither

Yes, exactly what I said, it’s ok to run 3rd party with or on a VM, even if is against the rules, you have no way to check besides walking around and typing and getting response,
AS LONG your not afk.

 

And this is what ppl are doing, and that is what we are complaining about.

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kamuynoturno
28 minutes ago, Support said:

Thanks for your suggestion and yes, I have been doing that since I believe what people saying is true. Turn out, I cannot find anything that people have been accusing.

I don't find it is amazing, since those accounts are shared to several people.

As long as they don't AFK and using software to can't really do much.

We cannot provide punishment to someone without prove from the reporter. As long as they don't break any rules, and response when we are checking then they are not breaking any rules.

It is a free World, I am not sure why would we stop people from playing 12hrs+ or 24hrs+ or telling people how to play their game.

In the new map there are 10 Prs healing on their own, one healing the other and healing others. is this player playing without auto?  On mars server

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Neither

So let me sugest something, that ll not change anything besides a little spike to those who exploit the VM.

 

Make to when someone stay "doing" the same action without stop for a random min 10-20 to STOP what they'r doing, this ll make to whoever is using it have to move through the VM to check if the mule still "ok". 

 

Seems reasonable for me, but its not everything that can be done.

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kamuynoturno

Well, from what we've seen, the problem is not to use it, but who can use it, good luck everyone

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Anghel0506
1 hour ago, Support said:
2 hours ago, Coyote said:

 

Do you have any prove that that is played by 1 person and 3rd party software been using for potting and AFK? Because I patrol maps daily and I see people response to me and if they don't, we all know the answer.

I got your point about have evidence to report someone but come on, why do you guys need prove of someone using VM? I mean how we are supposed to have the evidence? Shall we become fbi to enter in the chars room and check those chars weren’t playing by a single person?

There are logical situations when we as player can clearly see that someone is using something, i’ve seen like 8 prs with same or almost the same nick flying in every single HG, you guys can’t assume in those type of “logical situations”?

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wolf0119
11 minutes ago, Support said:

I think you better to ask the player? If you want report them, use report section with evidence because I find that I am repeating myself here.

it seems to me that the way you test if someone is abusing the system is too limited and ambiguous.

 

and the fact that they ask us to collect the evidence when the responsibility is clearly someone else and since those who have the ability to verify the system are only the staff, it feels like you just want to let pass this...

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Hulk

even today there are still people who abuse autopot + bolster macro (everyone knows who it is, and how it is done, but nothing happens)

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Neither
12 minutes ago, kamuynoturno said:

Well, from what we've seen, the problem is not to use it, but who can use it, good luck everyone

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I LOVE IT

 

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Boogieman
1 hour ago, Support said:

If you have evidence of someone who is using 3rd part software please post in report section because I never said this.

 

Our Dev is working very hard to detect any 3rd party software been used in game.

 

Maybe you should re-read this:

 

To me, seem like you love accusing someone without evidence and love to see us punish them because you just don't like. Unfortunately that is not how we deal with the report. We have to follow our own guideline and rules.

 

 

@Support

 

 

With all do respect you got personal when you replied to @Neither  telling him that he love to accuse people and he loves to see staff punish people.. its just unprofessional and unnecessary accusations.  What support in any game replies like this.  Your the only staff I see on forums who talks this way to wartale members and its not a good representation 

of this game. You have to remember that we come to you for help and support , but at times you can be very unprofessional and I can understand sometimes dealing with many posts can be frustrating but you need to keep your composure because the wartale community needs a strong support who is helpful and positive.

 

 

 

 

 

Wartale Support review :

 

 

1. fast replies, no need to wait too long to get a response. 

 

 

2. You can be a little rude when you reply to peoples questions 

 

 

3. If not enough information was provided you close the topic which makes the player have to create a new topic, why not leave the current topic and let the player

make the appropriate edit to give you what your asking for. 

 

 

4. you require way too much proof, like you want the player to go above and beyond to do so much work to provide every single piece of evidence possible before something gets done. It would be easier if you can look at our evidence then do your own investigation into the situation since you have better tools then us 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Take some tips from @Overlady this GM has been called bad names and the list goes on but she/he handles is very professionally and is a sweetheart!!

 

 

We know your a good gm @Support   just please be what your title says which is support and always try to be a better support then you were yesterday! 

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