exp rate drop rate/ SS EB

[harold 39]

any action atleast drop rate or xp rate between SS ?EB ? still nothing changes after huge  between SS /EB exp rate or drop rate suggestions

 

https://imgur.com/a/SeaQzhy

[xkintaro 1,759]

drop rate is ok, the problem in EB is the EXP rate

[harold 39]

yes i forgot the drop is ok. few  new items already... exp is really really really bad..

atleast increase SS map or EB map little

[funny 12]

I like current eb exp. Because if increase, noone go ss anymore like first time eb release. 

[Eisenmann 25]

Droprate is extremly bad and could be better as it is a hunt map. The Exp is okay. LC-Map and SS Map should not die

[Mjizzy_7 1,904]

Why u guys think that eb is a hunt map ??

[HoOoOoDLUM 112]

i really dont understand what is so complicated about EB , its the NEW MAP , not a hunting map, i think so many still confuse the 2 things.
the map SS is an older map and people will still play it to get from lvl 144 to 148, there is no need to make the exp in SS better than EB at all.
if we want to apply the mentality of ( let the exp of SS be better so the map doesnt die ) then how about we be fair and apply it all the way to all the maps , then GOF ( Garden Of Freedom ) should have the best XP.

EB should have a higher XP and the new items , that is how progress in games and maps work.

[Boogieman 40]

i think people worry about if eb become better xp then map SS then map SS will be a dead map . But when new maps are made old ones die that's just the way things go. they should decrease the level requirement of accessing SS so people from lower levels can go into SS and train. 

 

 

[ik3r 895]

4 hours ago, Mjizzy_7 said:

Why u guys think that eb is a hunt map ??

 

exp maps hardly ever drops itens, if you remove SS from the map list, you dont find any map to make a nice EXP and drop item in the same time.

 

So, EB drop itens 146/148, and you dont find this itens in another map, so using this logic (current logic in the game before SS) EB is a hunt map.

 

I know, this "logic" was change when SS was release, but maybe staff dont dont like the result with this (killing DIQ/SS) and maybe they dont want make this mistake again with SS/LC

 

PS>LC is very important for the game, Lkey help many players to buy itens etc, is easy kill lc if you buff exp in LB, some partys can make 1,1tri in LB, if they make 1,5 or something like this probably they never go to lc again 

11 minutes ago, Boogieman said:

i think people worry about if eb become better xp then map SS then map SS will be a dead map . But when new maps are made old ones die that's just the way things go. they should decrease the level requirement of accessing SS so people from lower levels can go into SS and train. 

 

 

 

i like this logic when you have a 1 new map ever 5/6 months, but here we have a 1 new map in 2 years, so i dont like this ideia here

Edited July 13, 2022 by ik3r

[Rodrigo Martins 191]

7 hours ago, ik3r said:

 

mapas de exp quase nunca dropam itens, se você remover SS da lista de mapas, você não encontra nenhum mapa para fazer um bom EXP e dropar item ao mesmo tempo.

 

Então, o EB dropa os itens 146/148, e você não encontra esses itens em outro mapa, então usando essa lógica (lógica atual no jogo antes do SS ) o EB é um mapa de caça.

 

Eu sei, essa "lógica" foi alterada quando o SS foi lançado, mas talvez o pessoal não goste do resultado com isso (matando DIQ / SS ) e talvez eles não queiram cometer esse erro novamente com SS /LC

 

PS >LC é muito importante para o jogo, Lkey ajuda muitos jogadores a comprar itens etc, é fácil matar lc se você buffar exp em LB, alguns grupos podem fazer 1,1tri em LB, se fizerem 1,5 ou algo assim provavelmente eles nunca vão para lc novamente 

 

eu gosto dessa lógica quando você tem 1 mapa novo a cada 5/6 meses, mas aqui temos 1 mapa novo em 2 anos, então não gosto dessa ideia aqui

only you are not highlighting here, that in LC you can do 2x the DG per hour (depending on pt) in easy, ie 2.4tri/h.. Tell me where EB will be better than LC? I think you're just seeing your side and not the game's. Surprisingly, the game economy also moves relative to exp. And here I'm not asking for high exp for EB, we're asking for decent exp for a map like this  and don't tell me EB is better, you're SOLO on the map yourself. And just go around the map and see that people are not in the hype as the ADMs imagined. Party on the map has, but in the focus of the drop, since the exp is horrible. And don't tell me there's SS this, since you didn't even level up staying there, why should I still?

I leveled my character to be on the last map always, and not on the second to last one to gain exp... EB should give 900bi/h at least and yes, around 1.3tri/h up to 1.5tri/h at most. What you want is fewer people on the map to drop something. Or do you think that a full pt with tanker and etc, active, with exp pot and tutti hat giving 780 bi/h is fair for you?

@Overlady Enjoy this maintenance gentlemen ADM, and please correct the exp of this map. Most complain about EB's exp and don't even want to play anymore, because it's not worth investing $$ in a map that exp doesn't pay for the invested exp potion.

11 hours ago, HoOoOoDLUM said:

i really dont understand what is so complicated about EB , its the NEW MAP , not a hunting map, i think so many still confuse the 2 things.
the map SS is an older map and people will still play it to get from lvl 144 to 148, there is no need to make the exp in SS better than EB at all.
if we want to apply the mentality of ( let the exp of SS be better so the map doesnt die ) then how about we be fair and apply it all the way to all the maps , then GOF ( Garden Of Freedom ) should have the best XP.

EB should have a higher XP and the new items , that is how progress in games and maps work.

+1 ??

Edited July 13, 2022 by Rodrigo Martins

[ik3r 895]

1 hour ago, Rodrigo Martins said:

only you are not highlighting here, that in LC you can do 2x the DG per hour (depending on pt) in easy, ie 2.4tri/h.. Tell me where EB will be better than LC? I think you're just seeing your side and not the game's. Surprisingly, the game economy also moves relative to exp. And here I'm not asking for high exp for EB, we're asking for decent exp for a map like this  and don't tell me EB is better, you're SOLO on the map yourself. And just go around the map and see that people are not in the hype as the ADMs imagined. Party on the map has, but in the focus of the drop, since the exp is horrible. And don't tell me there's SS this, since you didn't even level up staying there, why should I still?

I leveled my character to be on the last map always, and not on the second to last one to gain exp... EB should give 900bi/h at least and yes, around 1.3tri/h up to 1.5tri/h at most. What you want is fewer people on the map to drop something. Or do you think that a full pt with tanker and etc, active, with exp pot and tutti hat giving 780 bi/h is fair for you?

@Overlady Enjoy this maintenance gentlemen ADM, and please correct the exp of this map. Most complain about EB's exp and don't even want to play anymore, because it's not worth investing $$ in a map that exp doesn't pay for the invested exp potion.

+1 ??

 

 

compare 2 party without tanker , no food/no buff,  where you think exp is better?

 

i got a pt with full melee without tanker/buff and we made 60-65/5min,  this same pt will make 50bi/55 IN MAX.

OFC somes pt made 1,1/h in SS and in EB made 800/h and have then made 800/h in SS and make 1,1/h (maybe this number can increase with correct party) tri in EB.

 

EB  have a nice exp, but is not a 1x1 map, a full pt  can kill 11(normal mob, if spaw dogs/tormentor number increase) mob in same time, probably you never tested this, and 90% of guys dont tested it, first we need learn how exp in EB, after this you can clain a buff.

 

i dont believe 1,4/h killing 1x1 is a nice way, if you made 1,4/h , who know plays in eb will made 2,1+ lol and its a large number (for a map lvl 148)

Edited July 13, 2022 by ik3r

[xkintaro 1,759]

7 minutes ago, ik3r said:

and have other who made 800 in SS and made 1,1 tri in EB

 

what group does this EXP in SS and does less in EB???? there is no such thing, it's a lot of empty theory to justify something that doesn't exist.

 

The map has to have a natural evolution, 20% more EXP at least than the previous one.

People who spent a lot of time leveling up in SS are wanting to boycott the EXP of the new map, because then the XP will value, while those who play today on the last map will increase less than those who played 1 year ago.

 

This bad EB EXP is working so well, that SS has only one PT of services, one PT in an entire map, understand that SS has already given, tired of this map, don't try to sabotage people to stay there, who wants to stay there, stay there, but don't force anyone.

 

next map will give 400bi/h to not kill EB map too, in that logic, or as already said Gardem of Freedom will have the best EXP in the game, to value the hopys, ahahahahah

 

It's all upside down.

[ik3r 895]

5 minutes ago, xkintaro said:

 

what group does this EXP in SS and does less in EB???? there is no such thing, it's a lot of empty theory to justify something that doesn't exist.

 

The map has to have a natural evolution, 20% more EXP at least than the previous one.

People who spent a lot of time leveling up in SS are wanting to boycott the EXP of the new map, because then the XP will value, while those who play today on the last map will increase less than those who played 1 year ago.

 

This bad EB EXP is working so well, that SS has only one PT of services, one PT in an entire map, understand that SS has already given, tired of this map, don't try to sabotage people to stay there, who wants to stay there, stay there, but don't force anyone.

 

next map will give 400bi/h to not kill EB map too, in that logic, or as already said Gardem of Freedom will have the best EXP in the game, to value the hopys, ahahahahah

 

It's all upside down.

 

the map as natural evolution of exp and dmg.  EB has reduct damge,  for me this a proof of this map is not 1x1, and if you want a nice exp you need kill in aeo

[xkintaro 1,759]

2 minutes ago, ik3r said:

 

the map as natural evolution of exp and dmg.  EB has reduct damge,  for me this a proof of this map is not 1x1, and if you want a nice exp you need kill in aeo

 

some monster do less damage, because they are born in 2 in 2, or 3 in 3, it doesn't justify, it has more difficulties in the up

[Rodrigo Martins 191]

2 minutes ago, ik3r said:

 

the map as natural evolution of exp and dmg.  EB has reduct damge,  for me this a proof of this map is not 1x1, and if you want a nice exp you need kill in aeo

 

21 minutes ago, ik3r said:

 

 

compare 2 party without tanker , no food/no buff,  where you think exp is better?

 

i got a pt with full melee without tanker/buff and we made 60-65/5min,  this same pt will make 50bi/55 IN MAX.

OFC somes pt made 1,1/h in SS and in EB made 800/h and have then made 800/h in SS and make 1,1/h (maybe this number can increase with correct party) tri in EB.

 

EB  have a nice exp, but is not a 1x1 map, a full pt  can kill 11(normal mob, if spaw dogs/tormentor number increase) mob in same time, probably you never tested this, and 90% of guys dont tested it, first we need learn how exp in EB, after this you can clain a buff.

 

i dont believe 1,4/h killing 1x1 is a nice way, if you made 1,4/h , who know plays in eb will made 2,1+ lol and its a large number (for a map lvl 148)

Tell me about the exp numbers? Look, I think your measurements don't correspond to reality. So I'll give you numbers of pt's that I've already updated in EB:

- Random Party in EB with: 2 mages, 1 ps, 1 archer, 2 ks, all of them with tanker, and the pt well distributed to get the buffs, and me being with exp pot and tutti hat, giving 780bi/h. And I've already caught several other pt's with the same number of exp or even less. Detail that the people of this pt that I mentioned kill very well with skill in area and all of them very active, they didn't stay afk. 

But most pt's don't even get to that exp I mentioned.
The only "good" pt was the clan, which ran 950bi/h with the following composition: 1 shaman, 1 mage, 1 prs, 2 ps, 1 fs, almost all with tankers. That's me being with exp pot and tutti hat too. But a pt clan has communication, it's possible to activate food/drink.. But I've done several other pt's clan and none came close to that, and they all had tanker and practically almost the same buffs mentioned, except shaman buff. You have this argument that people only stick to the 1v1 skill and not the area skill, and you are wrong, of course there are exceptions, each player plays in a different way. But what I mentioned are people who used 1v1 and area skills. Once again your arguments are unfounded, there will always be pt that does more exp, but comparing the same pt in EB and SS, the one in SS will run much more exp. Now to say that EB is good and that we don't know how to play, I'm sorry, I see what you mention as selfish, you just want the drop to stay on the map, and take other people from going there to evolve the character. The logic of all games is: every map released is ALWAYS better than its predecessor.

And I'll keep hitting the map exp key, because that's what the community wants, fair exp for a map of this magnitude. And don't say 1.3tri/h to 1.5tri/h will kill LC, another baseless argument. Because you and many others are living proof that it is possible to make 2 LCs per hour, that is, 2.4tri/h.

[funny 12]

Player complain about LC keys before eb release, "noone wanna play because its not worth" .

Now eb release they complain eb not worth to spend time.

New map doesnt mean it need exp > old map. Gm dont say that

 

Edited July 13, 2022 by funny

[manosalsa 480]

On 7/13/2022 at 5:43 PM, Rodrigo Martins said:

Tell me about the exp numbers? Look, I think your measurements don't correspond to reality. So I'll give you numbers of pt's that I've already updated in EB:

- Random Party in EB with: 2 mages, 1 ps, 1 archer, 2 ks, all of them with tanker, and the pt well distributed to get the buffs, and me being with exp pot and tutti hat, giving 780bi/h. And I've already caught several other pt's with the same number of exp or even less. Detail that the people of this pt that I mentioned kill very well with skill in area and all of them very active, they didn't stay afk. 

But most pt's don't even get to that exp I mentioned.
The only "good" pt was the clan, which ran 950bi/h with the following composition: 1 shaman, 1 mage, 1 prs, 2 ps, 1 fs, almost all with tankers. That's me being with exp pot and tutti hat too. But a pt clan has communication, it's possible to activate food/drink.. But I've done several other pt's clan and none came close to that, and they all had tanker and practically almost the same buffs mentioned, except shaman buff. You have this argument that people only stick to the 1v1 skill and not the area skill, and you are wrong, of course there are exceptions, each player plays in a different way. But what I mentioned are people who used 1v1 and area skills. Once again your arguments are unfounded, there will always be pt that does more exp, but comparing the same pt in EB and SS, the one in SS will run much more exp. Now to say that EB is good and that we don't know how to play, I'm sorry, I see what you mention as selfish, you just want the drop to stay on the map, and take other people from going there to evolve the character. The logic of all games is: every map released is ALWAYS better than its predecessor.

And I'll keep hitting the map exp key, because that's what the community wants, fair exp for a map of this magnitude. And don't say 1.3tri/h to 1.5tri/h will kill LC, another baseless argument. Because you and many others are living proof that it is possible to make 2 LCs per hour, that is, 2.4tri/h.

Couldn´t agree more. Most of the classes has aoe skills, the argument of "ppl don´t know how to play at EB because they dont kill aoe" isnt valid. Almost every class in the game has an aoe skills, and most players use it.

 

The same party, exping at SS and at EB will make better exp in SS. It doesnt make sense for me. And never will.

[Hadden 167]

I guess bottomline is just EB drop 146 148 items, with regards to xp i think EB is just on par with SS