[NERF] PRS tier 1 Healing and tier 2 Grand Healing

[fairgame2022 59]

because of my new forum account i can't make topic in suggestion so i will post it here to discussion

 

Hello everyone,

 

Almost everyone of us hate nerf skill, but this time, I hope you'll love it. 

 

Please read this topic because it's connected to this suggestion

 

https://wartale.com/forums/topic/144089-virtual-machine-vs-boosting-in-bc

 

I suggest to nerf prs skills which is tier 1 healing and tier 2 grand healing.

 

 

Why do we need to nerf these skills?

 

It's simple. It's because it is the reason why the game is being absuse, if you read it. 

 

The link is at the top, about the virtual machine that it is someone the same as virtual machine.

 

It is the reason why the game is being abused, virtual machine are not only being used for prs skill, thats why it was blocked.

 

However it didnt stop the abuse of the game. Kindly check this link: 

 

 

 

 

Read and watch the video in the link, and you'll see clearly the continuously of the abuse of the prs skill. A lot of people told me, that they are only using a different machine to be able to use the prs skill even if it was blocked.

 

These machine are not going to be effective because the machine is not the one that needs to be change. The thing that we need to do is to stop where it is coming from, the abuse of playing the game and the use of the prs skill.

 

If you agree, or do not agree, in my suggestion, you may give your opinion, but im sure all of us agree to have a fair play with no cheating in playing wartale. 

Thank you so much, wartale players.

[ivan0012 326]

each one of these accounts costs more than 40kc (because they have items and level) imagine having 5-10 accounts and not being able to use it is funny to say the least. ( I myself have 2 sacer each I invested more than 35kc ) (but I don't use it to be healing just to fly.

 

I love this skill for DG it helps a lot since sacer has no damage. she helps KS and FS use their tier 5 until the end without crying.

[lt1genv 493]

Yes GM. Block all houses from having more than 1 PC in 1 home and no more than 1 person able to play Wartale per house ?

 

OP you truly have nothing better to do. 

Edited August 15, 2022 by lt1genv

[ivan0012 326]

2 minutes ago, lt1genv said:

Yes GM. Block all houses from having more than 1 PC in 1 home and no more than 1 person able to play Wartale per house ?

 

OP you truly have nothing better to do. 

People who suggest this are useless as they can't buy an extra computer or even buy 2-3 characters to help with the up. (because each auxiliary character doesn't leave for less than 25kc) (set 140 set boss 3 drop rob orb wand 140+24 drop) set 140 = 4-5kc rob and orb and wand 4-5kc each.... set boss 3 drop bsol = 4-6kc... ) character 148 = 8kc....
total... 29-32kc... now do it 3x....

[fairgame2022 59]

you are free to tell your opinion but it's not about you can afford to buy a lot of expensive chars or you can't

 

this suggestion is made to improve the game and stop players in abusing skills and stop to macro 

 

[Asylum 206]

@Coyote

[xkintaro 1,987]

1 hour ago, ivan0012 said:

each one of these accounts costs more than 40kc (because they have items and level) imagine having 5-10 accounts and not being able to use it is funny to say the least. ( I myself have 2 sacer each I invested more than 35kc ) (but I don't use it to be healing just to fly.

 

I love this skill for DG it helps a lot since sacer has no damage. she helps KS and FS use their tier 5 until the end without crying.

 

1 hour ago, ivan0012 said:

People who suggest this are useless as they can't buy an extra computer or even buy 2-3 characters to help with the up. (because each auxiliary character doesn't leave for less than 25kc) (set 140 set boss 3 drop rob orb wand 140+24 drop) set 140 = 4-5kc rob and orb and wand 4-5kc each.... set boss 3 drop bsol = 4-6kc... ) character 148 = 8kc....
total... 29-32kc... now do it 3x....

 

 

Just because you invested these amounts in your account, doesn't make you immune to punishment for abuse and bugs.

 

in the video it is clear that they are using VM and an auto click or bot to automate the priests' gameplay.

 

something has to be changed about that.

[fairgame2022 59]

@xkintaro exactly you got my point

 

not because you got many chars and got all expensive items you are free to do what you want and to abuse the game

 

its really unfair to all playing fair without any advantage

[- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,764]

1 hour ago, ivan0012 said:

I love this skill for DG it helps a lot since sacer has no damage.

this is false, priest damage is decently high.

T1T2 heal and regen field were made for a time when potions were rare, like, 15 years ago.

 

Whether those skills are meant to stay like that or not is up to the staff, but at Least you should be able to lock T1 heal without VM. Being forced to use virtual machine not only for those skills but some no-target AoE skills while those players abuse it with VM+macro is the unfair part in my opinion.

[RoZilla 123]

I will never understand how this is allowed Lol

[ivan0012 326]

23 minutes ago, xkintaro said:

 

 

 

Just because you invested these amounts in your account, doesn't make you immune to punishment for abuse and bugs.

 

in the video it is clear that they are using VM and an auto click or bot to automate the priests' gameplay.

 

something has to be changed about that.

what he's asking is not a punishment for those who use these things but a nerf for the class. (I think this is very wrong) (you don't see 2 sacer in the DG more clearly you can see 2 ps 2 ks 2 fs etc ) simple so if you take the support of sacer it's easier to delete the character from the game and put it to sell the VL in npc.

[xkintaro 1,987]

2 minutes ago, ivan0012 said:

what he's asking is not a punishment for those who use these things but a nerf for the class. (I think this is very wrong) 

 

since the GM forbade the use of VM, we go to the moment where you should ask for punishment yes, because now it is considered a bug abuse.

 

4 minutes ago, ivan0012 said:

(you don't see 2 sacer in the DG more clearly you can see 2 ps 2 ks 2 fs etc ) simple so if you take the support of sacer it's easier to delete the character from the game and put it to sell the VL in npc.

 

you who don't know how to play, Priest has one of the biggest damages in the game in DG PVP wherever you go and nobody is talking about taking her VL, as you assumed here.

[funny 12]

We don't know if 1 player use 3 machine or 3 player with same IP. 

My brother and me both play WPT(same house) but he dont play anymore.  Imagine if he back WPT, u might think that i'm using prs to heal. So i think you guys shouldn't think this way.

I dont use prs for healing, i just have to press regen every minutes. In fact, i dont even hunt EB SS, so waste time, just daily.

I think GM can nerf it in PVE map(EB, ss, SL ...) or something. For example: mob in EB, SS, SL can have some debuf to nerf regen t1,t2 .... But even it nerf, i think they wil lcontinue to use prs heal with another computer. You guys should suggest some good way.

 

Notice: Now its easy to play with ranger, but hard to play mellee because mobs too strong, have to press hp many time. Now only top lv can play melee, and they will buy exp service to lv up.  Exp servicer have many computer i think. I remember Wartale in ET, melee everywhere, now its not.

Edited August 15, 2022 by funny

[fairgame2022 59]

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[xkintaro 1,987]

13 minutes ago, funny said:

Notice: Now its easy to play with ranger, but hard to play mellee because mobs too strong, have to press hp many time. Now only top lv can play melee, and they will buy exp service to lv up.  Exp servicer have many computer i think. I remember Wartale in ET, melee everywhere, now its not.

 

Rangers need tankers, is a must, meeles don't need tankers is a lie, meeles and rangers each have their advantages and disadvantages, about only top level can be melee at pve, it's a lie, you must just be unaccustomed to potting and having to make a minimum effort to stay alive.

 

one thing does not justify the other, whoever is using VM has to be punished and the VM blocked.

[funny 12]

6 minutes ago, xkintaro said:

 

Rangers need tankers, is a must, meeles don't need tankers is a lie, meeles and rangers each have their advantages and disadvantages, about only top level can be melee at pve, it's a lie, you must just be unaccustomed to potting and having to make a minimum effort to stay alive.

 

one thing does not justify the other, whoever is using VM has to be punished and the VM blocked.

fact that my friend who play 14x-> 154 melee they all change class ?

Edited August 15, 2022 by funny

[fairgame2022 59]

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[wolf0119 267]

It is obviously a non-manual use by the player.

[sell_only 121]

Every game has RMT people, they have all the macros, program tools and script writers, as long as the rich continues to pay them, game will always have them.

 

This one is self-heal. Witch mob has mini-stun to stop Regen Field, so RMT people now prefer self-heal-prstank over regen-prstank again I guess.

 

In case you don't know, you can set auto-click on self-heal, not the in-game auto-click, self-heal cannot be auto-clicked in-game I remember, so it's outside macro assist. in that way you can ignore this witch mob's mini-stun mechanism. 

 

The average players who use regen-prstank suffer. GM made this mini-stun witch mob to combat AFK-play style in SS. In the end, RMT people just use self-heal again to counter mini-stun.

 

 

These two prs are doing Grand Healing for party. Pretty much the same thing, just macro auto-click. As far as I remember, both Healing and Grand-Healing cannot be auto-clicked in-game, like example, Mg Stone-Spiked can be auto-clicked in-game.

 

How their hitters play, I also suspect they have screen auto-target and auto-click. Which is a harder macro to do, normal players will not go so far just to perfect their own macros for 1 game. Because usually we play a lot different games, and cannot be bothered just to improve and perfective our macros. 

 

But when money is involved, these RMT people may go so far as to make their macro the best they can. There are macro-mouse with macro software that have auto-screen target, especially for shooter games. 

 

Every pixel on the screen has a colour. Every colour has a code. The hex code of the colour is the same for all computer or screens.

 

Well in case normal people don't understand, you can just google a program to point your cursor to screen and find that colour code.

 

You can find the colour code of each monster, and that the map or that surrounding don't have that colour code, or by change your view to the sky which has the colour codes of the blues, so you can insert monsters' colour code into macro for auto-target. Then with auto-click you can just stare at your screen while earning money. Your hands are free, you can have many computers RMT for many accounts at the same time. 

 

Then skills F123456, and pots 123, all can be auto-script with timing in the macros. This part is easy macro. If you ever macro, you know how and this is easy. The auto-click on colour code is the hard one. 

 

 

My point is not teaching you how to auto 24/7. My point is every game has RMT, every game has auto-botters. No matter how hard you make your game to be, you ONLY make the average players suffer. Some friends of mine (not RMT or macro people), just normal players telling me the new map is so hard they don't even want to do Daily. You are making SL hard, SS harder, EB hardest with respect to Auto, Botters, Macro-ers, RMT people. They are not the real players here. I have one rich Donator in my group telling us from time to time, 'monsters in EB getting harder and harder'. He is not complaining, he just saying that as he p-l-a-y-e-d the game. 

 

I support making the maps harder to counter RMT people. But at the end of the day you need to consider your average players. 

 

There is no way you can stop RMT people. So you gotta think how you want your game to be. With every map getting harder, there will be one day the map is so hard average players get put off and q-u-i-t and what you have here are all RMT players remaining on the top level contents.. This is actually my concern. Because you cannot stop macro or auto, no other games have done that. 

 

Thanks for reading, just sharing my view.

Edited August 15, 2022 by sell_only
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[fairgame2022 59]

@sell_only that's scary bro but i still believe in our GMs here they will never tolerate this kind of abuse and always find way to stop those players who's taking advantages

[Hulk 332]

+1 to nerf macro heal skills

[MrGreen 117]

They do that in ss days... Abusers ?

[Keshy 1,385]

5 minutes ago, Hulk said:

+1 to nerf macro heal skills

have to put some limitation on the skill.

If you nerf the skill range they will stick a prs on the character, if you put stun they change the skill...

 

what you could do is increase the delay or rework the healing skills, since everyone in wartale knows that this skill only ruins the game

[ainih 33]

So just because PRS can tank while heal its an abuse while MS just stand full buff is not an abuse? Does that make MS tanking ability is abuse therefore should be nerfed too?

[EliPortela 153]

I'm not sure about Nerf, but you're right to start this discussion;
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