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40 minutes ago, Overlady said:

We planned to release the class mounts alongside the new PvP mode, but because the A colors had nothing to do with that (they were made for the Coin Shop), we decided to unlock them first. 

any info regarding the new PvP mode? Belts will be related to it or something else?

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2 minutes ago, Nightlord said:

bruh its tottaly not worth buying it for a bunch of reasons

first it was suposed to be an permanent feature, you wouldnt change vl color to blue just cuz :DD

and second- if u want it to act as the original skill you would what need to age it all back to the aging of your shield?

its a bit sad imo cuz it looked like a good skill and did its role to show you what you are using, without say its pretty expensive 500c for something we had for 20 years ;_; (without aging ofc :DD)

 

do you understand that now i have all the shields with skins options and before i had only one? it was an upgrade, i was forced to use that skin, now i can just choose to use my normal shield, put another skin or buy the original in the coin shop.

 

now you can buy it at the coin shop and use it with aging +24 +23 +22..., there are more options.

 

500c is not expensive, any event farm there you do it in the game, It could be cheaper, of course, but it's not expensive..

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s0ckch3

It seems that the things that need to change priority are updated too slowly. 

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Mjizzy_7

I understand the frustration of the people. We all want something new that bring back the game on fire. War mode is 1 of them. This new feature will make the game much cooler (i hope). But i think to help lower lvls is even more important. Wartale is at a point that need back more active players and this works with giving returner, new players etc faith to be able to xp anytime they want even if its solo playing. 

The rest need to be able to have better xp, better drops without hunting months to drop something. People will keep playing if they get rewarded for grinding. Maybe war mode gives more exp and better drop rate? Would be so cool for active players . I think more higher lvls will think twice if they want just put their charas in xp services while they could xp,hunt and pvp at the same time.

 

The new Mounts are super nice. So lets hope for a fast new update ?

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Just now, blacksheep123 said:

 

well said brother 100% agreed.  I think its also important to bring back old players and attract new players... but i dont think new mounts will make players come back or more active in-game.

 

So i hope to see some better things happening in this game because i spend more time playing fortnite compared to wartale. 

Yes yes, Me personally love skins etc, and as i unterstandet the staff has designers that do their job and someone who works on the other things. 
 

The designer did his job, so the Server Admin put it in the game. Means we shouldn't expect on every maint something *big* otherwise a topic like this will always be created. 

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2 minutes ago, blacksheep123 said:

 

well said brother 100% agreed.  I think its also important to bring back old players and attract new players... but i dont think new mounts will make players come back or more active in-game.

 

So i hope to see some better things happening in this game because i spend more time playing fortnite compared to wartale. 

they don't even respond to players who are active in the game, can you imagine wanting to bring those who have played and left? it's something they don't care

 

5 minutes ago, Mjizzy_7 said:

The new Mounts are super nice. So lets hope for a fast new update ?

they are incredible, even more costing 4kc, do they give more speed than the normal ones? because wolverine is horrible (and there's nothing amazing about it)

The mounts that are in HG is something that has been around for years and they just took it from the original Wartale

 

the problem is the lack of communication. As long as they think the players are "suckers" the game just has to be emptier, the problem is not the "news" but the way the team is behaving towards the players (the topics created in particular) it's disheartening to want to make a suggestion (since they deny it 90% of the time)

This LC ranking was given the suggestion right when they created the map, and they ignored/discarded the idea.

 

they create too much expectation over something that in the end ends up frustrating players (a mount costing 4kc is a great example of this)

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8 minutes ago, Keshy said:

they don't even respond to players who are active in the game, can you imagine wanting to bring those who have played and left? it's something they don't care

 

they are incredible, even more costing 4kc, do they give more speed than the normal ones? because wolverine is horrible (and there's nothing amazing about it)

The mounts that are in HG is something that has been around for years and they just took it from the original Wartale

 

the problem is the lack of communication. As long as they think the players are "suckers" the game just has to be emptier, the problem is not the "news" but the way the team is behaving towards the players (the topics created in particular) it's disheartening to want to make a suggestion (since they deny it 90% of the time)

This LC ranking was given the suggestion right when they created the map, and they ignored/discarded the idea.

 

they create too much expectation over something that in the end ends up frustrating players (a mount costing 4kc is a great example of this)

Tbh i saw 4kc really to high. 2.5kc would be ok. 
 

About the communication, i really dont know why its like that honestly. There are so many ways to communicate easier to the players without spending even much time. 
 

 

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Just now, Mjizzy_7 said:

Tbh i saw 4kc really to high. 2.5kc would be ok. 
 

About the communication, i really dont know why its like that honestly. There could be so many ways communicate easier to the players without spending even much time. 
 

 

what does it cost them to say what will come?
or
right when the maintenance ends, post the news (without taking 24-48 hours later?)

 

4 minutes ago, blacksheep123 said:

 

 

Hello my friend keshy nice to hear from you again, always a pleasure to talk about this game with you.

 

 

Yes I know the problem you feel is serious, to be honest i only have a mule priest to play with in this game now, having a main char full is not worth it today because theres not much to do in this game. If there was more activity and more fun things to do then i would consider getting a competitive character but the games to dead to invest anymore. Im happy playing my noob priest once in a while as support or hunt sometimes for a drop but that's about all the fun i have in this game. Im a PVP player so im waiting for more things to happen in this game.

 

 

Yes bringing back players is hard, because the players see that things have not changed in this game and that its the same problems, its sad but what can we do. 

pvp is what most discourages most players who don't want to spend these days

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7 minutes ago, Keshy said:

pvp is what most discourages most players who don't want to spend these days

exactly this.

New OP items being released is the biggest problem tbh. there are good examples of balanced items [ shield 140 vs shield 144 vs shield 148, or gaunt 144 vs gaunt 148]. But by releasing OP items [ draxos being the first one], it pressures players to have them, and by pressering someone, you limit their freedom of choice when playing a content, which ultimately lead to two extremes, either people qu1t or will pay a lot more for the item, regardless of the outcome, less and less people will go BC as those items are released.

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10 minutes ago, Keshy said:

what does it cost them to say what will come?
or
right when the maintenance ends, post the news (without taking 24-48 hours later?)

 

pvp is what most discourages most players who don't want to spend these days

I really loved the videos that overlady posted before eb was released. Things like this give players hype. But yes the Communication really needs to be improved. 
 

Its already got better since Gm-L and Overlady are there. They get informed by the Admin and communicate it to the players. But yes to list what is planned 48h before the Maint would be really what people deserves to know. 
 

The reason why it doesnt happen like this we cant know ?
Maybe they dont like to post what is going to be released to not make false hopes when it doesn't work at the time they adding it cause of bugs they cover while the maint?

 

So atleast after the maint it should directly happen

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19 minutes ago, Mjizzy_7 said:

I really loved the videos that overlady posted before eb was released. Things like this give players hype. But yes the Communication really needs to be improved. 
 

Its already got better since Gm-L and Overlady are there. They get informed by the Admin and communicate it to the players. But yes to list what is planned 48h before the Maint would be really what people deserves to know. 
 

The reason why it doesnt happen like this we cant know ?
Maybe they dont like to post what is going to be released to not make false hopes when it doesn't work at the time they adding it cause of bugs they cover while the maint?

 

So atleast after the maint it should directly happen

I just released a new one that was planned for tomorrow ?

 

We usually preview when we have something to release in the next one to two maintenances, and there was nothing big for this patch except the class mount (which was announced).

ps. Next 4 class mounts added to Mount Guide.

 

Best,

Overlady

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19 minutes ago, Overlady said:

I just released a new one that was planned for tomorrow ?

 

We usually preview when we have something to release in the next one to two maintenances, and there was nothing big for this patch except the class mount (which was announced).

ps. Next 4 class mounts added to Mount Guide.

 

Best,

Overlady

reduce price to 2kc

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40 minutes ago, Overlady said:

I just released a new one that was planned for tomorrow ?

 

We usually preview when we have something to release in the next one to two maintenances, and there was nothing big for this patch except the class mount (which was announced).

ps. Next 4 class mounts added to Mount Guide.

 

Best,

Overlady

oh niiiiiiiiiice 

now now this is something very good to seeeeee

hope yall have some options to 100-110 / 120-130 etc

awesome job by what i see in the short  :DDD

weird boss tho :DD very cool xD

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1 hour ago, Overlady said:

I just released a new one that was planned for tomorrow ?

 

We usually preview when we have something to release in the next one to two maintenances, and there was nothing big for this patch except the class mount (which was announced).

ps. Next 4 class mounts added to Mount Guide.

 

Best,

Overlady

Will you need a key?

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5 minutes ago, piabeta said:

Will you need a key?

i do believe that might be something like halloween event 

easy and cheap key

lets hope so :DD

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piabeta
Just now, Nightlord said:

eu acredito que pode ser algo como evento halloween

chave fácil e barata

vamos esperar que :D D

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DG freeeeeeeeeeeee

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Just now, piabeta said:

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DG freeeeeeeeeeeee

bruh u mean like, maybe some quest that u take in pt and go inside the dg? might work too but idk :v

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5 hours ago, - D E A T H S T R O K E - said:

Don't worry, next update we will get Midranda gauntlets!! It'll get  1 extra atk speed as bonus to fix Low xp problems and with one every blue moon drop rate to give some challange.

If you manage to get the full set of draxos centlon midranda, you get a double  bonus effect!

I have being farming Centlon every single day this year and no Centlon Brac has Dropped...by the other hand last year 4 Centlon brac dropped...then idk where all this going. I think is fair 1 Cent brac every single 4 months,  but for sure not farming Centlon the whole year for nothing...just hopping that Clanhelper01 will win the brac afk doing regen...or any other random guy, If that happen again ill stop doing the only thing that keep me alive atm Bosses... really dont get it, if any random afk mule won Cent brac ill STOP killing Bosses

6 hours ago, Nightlord said:

Well well well if isnt the most horrible decision AGAIN right? =D

WE ALL understand, the game need currency to keep alive, WE ALL understand some things are NECESSARY, but really?

Game exist since 2001 older than most part of the players and yall removed A FVCKIN SKILL SKIN THAT WE ALWAYS HAD FOR 21 FVCKIN YEARS... Nice now you can buy it on coin shop thats a good idea yee if ur a fs and want the godly shield u could buy it for sure BUT DIDNT HAD TO REMOVE IT FROM KS NOR MS :DDDDDDDD

Now this damn mount for 4kc? 

really?

4kc?

of cooooourse farm is so easy right now :DDDD

mining? dont sell

Despite de are like 8 ass farming the same map (3-4 lvl 10), some times i get 3 or 4 minerales from  full tour over 3 maps...i used to like mining now is stressing

sod? kicked for dudes with 892739823732 chars farming non-stop

drops?plus 25% taxes lmao if u get oredo ur lucky nowdays No longer what it used to be =_(

sell items on npc? good luck on that

economy is broke the whole game is crying and every single step yall take make it every time worse

 

i wont just give just complains i can tell what u can do

first :DDD

GIVE BACK THE FVCKIN KS/MS SKILL, TAKE THAT AWAY ITS RIDICULOUS

Second :DDDDD

WANT TO MAKE CLASS MOUNT FOR COINS OK NICE EASIER WAY TO GET THE MOUNT

BUT MAKE A FVCKIN QUEST HARD AS U CAN IMAGINE SO WE POOR ****S CAN GET AT LEAST THE MINIMUM FUN FROM A GAME THAT IS TAKING ALL OUR TIME AND BEING FAR MORE FRUSTRATING THAN FUN

 

i dont mean to be rude but goddamn guys what the fvckin hell are yall doing with the game 

have yall ever thought about that if it gets worse than already is EVERYONE will leave and yall will have nothing else to sell to no one else?

do something and stop doing mediocre choises focused on p2w dudes, they keep to server rolling but they are not the majority

 

fvckin regards~~ nightlord

 

6 hours ago, Nightlord said:

Well well well if isnt the most horrible decision AGAIN right? =D

WE ALL understand, the game need currency to keep alive, WE ALL understand some things are NECESSARY, but really?

Game exist since 2001 older than most part of the players and yall removed A FVCKIN SKILL SKIN THAT WE ALWAYS HAD FOR 21 FVCKIN YEARS... Nice now you can buy it on coin shop thats a good idea yee if ur a fs and want the godly shield u could buy it for sure BUT DIDNT HAD TO REMOVE IT FROM KS NOR MS :DDDDDDDD

Now this damn mount for 4kc? 

really?

4kc?

of cooooourse farm is so easy right now :DDDD

mining? dont sell

sod? kicked for dudes with 892739823732 chars farming non-stop

drops? lmao if u get oredo ur lucky nowdays

sell items on npc? good luck on that

economy is broke the whole game is crying and every single step yall take make it every time worse

 

i wont just give just complains i can tell what u can do

first :DDD

GIVE BACK THE FVCKIN KS/MS SKILL, TAKE THAT AWAY ITS RIDICULOUS

Second :DDDDD

WANT TO MAKE CLASS MOUNT FOR COINS OK NICE EASIER WAY TO GET THE MOUNT

BUT MAKE A FVCKIN QUEST HARD AS U CAN IMAGINE SO WE POOR ****S CAN GET AT LEAST THE MINIMUM FUN FROM A GAME THAT IS TAKING ALL OUR TIME AND BEING FAR MORE FRUSTRATING THAN FUN

 

i dont mean to be rude but goddamn guys what the fvckin hell are yall doing with the game 

have yall ever thought about that if it gets worse than already is EVERYONE will leave and yall will have nothing else to sell to no one else?

do something and stop doing mediocre choises focused on p2w dudes, they keep to server rolling but they are not the majority

 

fvckin regards~~ nightlord

I totally agree with this post and im doing in he best way; but when something is not playe good we need to raise our hand, staff cmn uyo have the best Wartale private server just listen to the comunitty;

 

pvp is dead

skills

t5 rework

bosses 

skins

drops

re-work classes

quests

new maps

BRING BACK THE GOOD OLD WAYS WHEN ALL CLANS USED TO PARTICIPATE AT SW

 

NO MOUNTS FOR SURE =_( we dont have FUN mounting-up just look cool thats all... we having fun questing, pvping, killing Bosses, SODing, farming etc...

 

please guys hear the watale community

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31 minutes ago, KIMURA said:

I have being farming Centlon every single day this year and no Centlon Brac has Dropped...by the other hand last year 4 Centlon brac dropped...then idk where all this going. I think is fair 1 Cent brac every single 4 months,  but for sure not farming Centlon the whole year for nothing...just hopping that Clanhelper01 will win the brac afk doing regen...or any other random guy, If that happen again ill stop doing the only thing that keep me alive atm Bosses... really dont get it, if any random afk mule won Cent brac ill play doing Bosses

 

Actuallly, remove all crystals and sheltom dropped from super bosses is the best suggestion.

I saw many topics suggest about this issue but GM wont do anything. The feeling when you spent 20-30min and tons of rebirth scrolls then roll for 3 crystal.

what is a purpose?

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46 minutes ago, suesue said:

Actuallly, remove all crystals and sheltom dropped from super bosses is the best suggestion.

I saw many topics suggest about this issue but GM wont do anything. The feeling when you spent 20-30min and tons of rebirth scrolls then roll for 3 crystal.

what is a purpose?

Yah that too...maybe Bosses could be farmed weekly for Clans (AT LEAST 40PPL)like LC ...Easy, normal and Hard mode) You can kill Fro example you can farm Greedy and Upgrade your gear +1normal +2 Hard,  that way encourage the whole Clan to be active and participate to get something and Clans by it-self will start to become stronger due his work and perseverance...with no afk, mules, gold diggers, VM or so) just a Wartale comunitty farming Bosses, gearing-up and having fun, after 1 or 2 Yeats they will be geared to participate SW

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Possible to get an option in settings to turn ON and OFF for godly shield and devine shield? So that these cry babies can finally stop crying. So many years they had those ugly skins and now they still cry. 

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want to make a suggestion (since they deny it 90% of the time)

It's either deny or accept or silence. (3 choices)
At least deny better than silence.

 

Otherwise you guys can just bump(reply) your old suggestions from months/years ago (or re-suggest again) to let Staff see again. 
Maybe they denied it years ago, but accept it now. 

 

There is 4th choice: explanations before deny. I think you guys looking for this.
To be honest, some explanations are just crap (bad judgement, poor concept of economy, poor understanding of players' friendship circle, poor concept of pvp skills /pvp items, poor understanding of many balances, balance of farmers and donators, balance of pve and pvp, etc). 
So sometimes I prefer Staff stop explain and just deny.

Suggestions are actually just Trial and Error to them if you understand this.

 

What is Trial and Error:
Finding out of the best way to reach a desired result by trying out one or more ways and by noting and eliminating errors or causes of failure. 
Also: the trying of one thing or another until one of the Suggestions succeeds.

 

Except yeah staff(like Overlady) give their thoughts or directions on certain suggestions or concept. 
But even this can also be Trial and Error. Because like years later, the originally concept/directions are/were not being followed. Or the originally explanations in the past are not what it is now.
So even I don't see the point of explaining when in the future it's different.

 

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New OP items being released is the biggest problem tbh

Should have diminishing returns. The Top items should give less and less.
But how you do that in an old game like Wartale, I don't know. 

 

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mining? dont sell

That's why I suggest current items / future items to be crafted from mining. (or part of it requires mining)
Like past 142/144 dropping for Exp-service people, already 100c/Tril income 24hr/7day, on top of it, they got Kcs from 142/144 drop once in a while. 
It's like extra bucks, not just extra bucks, but Year-End Bonus, or even better Multiple-Year-End Bonus (if there is such a thing in real-life so sweet).
Now 146/148 same. 

 

And even rich players complain that Exp-service people are dictating the Price of Top items. Meaning average buyers have no control on the market. That is always bad for economy. Healthy economy means balance between Demand and Supply. There is no Monopoly.

 

But you see Exp-service people in mining? Mining don't sell once we have like 100+ penta-ruby in servers. 
What else can mining do? Skins? Skins demand is like 1/10th of Gem market. Not every players buy Skins.


And Ruby can be paid to be extracted. Unless staff have other plans for mining. Even mining accounts are getting cheaper and cheaper like real fast OR already hit the market floor. If mining accounts (Lv5~Lv9 Mining) already like cheapest, then it's sad, because Mining is just out relatively new.

 

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Clanhelper01 will win the brac afk doing regen

Afk-prs function for VL, Regen, T5 dmg-buff.
Afk-prs is played on double accounts, meaning that person is playing on their Main char on one window, and afk-prs on second window.
Roll can ONLY be rolled to one Char on the same computer. So it's either one of the Chars win Roll. Even if you play more accounts, still 1 Roll per computer/internet.

 

If that player plays on TWO computers, the main char on one computer, the afk-prs on second computer, then both Chars can win Roll. 
Now because one player can win two Rolls, you can say better advantage. 

 

The only way you argue that Too Much advantage: is that you use software to by-pass 1 Roll per computer/internet System. So that means now BOTH chars on the same computer can Roll. If you know the name of Main char of this clan-helper01, you can see that player only win 1 Roll. Not 2. 

 

Btw, if normal players can play multi-accounts to boost themselves, then by all means, it's more troublesome anyway and at least somewhat competitive pve-wise against Exp-service.

Exp-service people are even better equiped with computers, softwares, equipments, etc. 

 

 

btw, stop have high expectations. 

some frustration comes from expectations.

 

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8 hours ago, Overlady said:

I just released a new one that was planned for tomorrow ?

 

We usually preview when we have something to release in the next one to two maintenances, and there was nothing big for this patch except the class mount (which was announced).

ps. Next 4 class mounts added to Mount Guide.

 

Best,

Overlady

Where can i find the video? Could you post a link? I'm new here and don't know where all these go to...

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KIMURA
2 hours ago, sell_only said:

It's either deny or accept or silence. (3 choices)
At least deny better than silence.

 

Otherwise you guys can just bump(reply) your old suggestions from months/years ago (or re-suggest again) to let Staff see again. 
Maybe they denied it years ago, but accept it now. 

 

There is 4th choice: explanations before deny. I think you guys looking for this.
To be honest, some explanations are just crap (bad judgement, poor concept of economy, poor understanding of players' friendship circle, poor concept of pvp skills /pvp items, poor understanding of many balances, balance of farmers and donators, balance of pve and pvp, etc). 
So sometimes I prefer Staff stop explain and just deny.

Suggestions are actually just Trial and Error to them if you understand this.

 

What is Trial and Error:
Finding out of the best way to reach a desired result by trying out one or more ways and by noting and eliminating errors or causes of failure. 
Also: the trying of one thing or another until one of the Suggestions succeeds.

 

Except yeah staff(like Overlady) give their thoughts or directions on certain suggestions or concept. 
But even this can also be Trial and Error. Because like years later, the originally concept/directions are/were not being followed. Or the originally explanations in the past are not what it is now.
So even I don't see the point of explaining when in the future it's different.

 

Should have diminishing returns. The Top items should give less and less.
But how you do that in an old game like Wartale, I don't know. 

 

That's why I suggest current items / future items to be crafted from mining. (or part of it requires mining)
Like past 142/144 dropping for Exp-service people, already 100c/Tril income 24hr/7day, on top of it, they got Kcs from 142/144 drop once in a while. 
It's like extra bucks, not just extra bucks, but Year-End Bonus, or even better Multiple-Year-End Bonus (if there is such a thing in real-life so sweet).
Now 146/148 same. 

 

And even rich players complain that Exp-service people are dictating the Price of Top items. Meaning average buyers have no control on the market. That is always bad for economy. Healthy economy means balance between Demand and Supply. There is no Monopoly.

 

But you see Exp-service people in mining? Mining don't sell once we have like 100+ penta-ruby in servers. 
What else can mining do? Skins? Skins demand is like 1/10th of Gem market. Not every players buy Skins.


And Ruby can be paid to be extracted. Unless staff have other plans for mining. Even mining accounts are getting cheaper and cheaper like real fast OR already hit the market floor. If mining accounts (Lv5~Lv9 Mining) already like cheapest, then it's sad, because Mining is just out relatively new.

 

Afk-prs function for VL, Regen, T5 dmg-buff.
Afk-prs is played on double accounts, meaning that person is playing on their Main char on one window, and afk-prs on second window.
Roll can ONLY be rolled to one Char on the same computer. So it's either one of the Chars win Roll. Even if you play more accounts, still 1 Roll per computer/internet.

 

If that player plays on TWO computers, the main char on one computer, the afk-prs on second computer, then both Chars can win Roll. 
Now because one player can win two Rolls, you can say better advantage. 

 

The only way you argue that Too Much advantage: is that you use software to by-pass 1 Roll per computer/internet System. So that means now BOTH chars on the same computer can Roll. If you know the name of Main char of this clan-helper01, you can see that player only win 1 Roll. Not 2. 

 

Btw, if normal players can play multi-accounts to boost themselves, then by all means, it's more troublesome anyway and at least somewhat competitive pve-wise against Exp-service.

Exp-service people are even better equiped with computers, softwares, equipments, etc. 

 

 

btw, stop have high expectations. 

some frustration comes from expectations.

Im getting tired after swimming against the flow for 3 years.

Idk some how the dream ill add

•160 new instantes, Raid or dungeons; that will add value to acc and encourage the whole server to lvlup  instead of sell all the L.keys

•Badass skins from pvp

•World quests

•Boss quests

•LC quests

• Raid quests for Clans

SW Edwards buffs

• Open pvp in the whole EB maps ( increase or just in pvp items 146/148 could be dropped....)

•Weekly Bosses 

 

 

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