ChocolateTeapot 186 Report post Posted September 18, 2022 Hi, I understood that we can only activate the new mount if we play as archer, I'd like to know if, in case we change class, we'll be able to still use the mount, as an FS for exemple. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mjizzy_7 1,899 Report post Posted September 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, ChocolateTeapot said: Hi, I understood that we can only activate the new mount if we play as archer, I'd like to know if, in case we change class, we'll be able to still use the mount, as an FS for exemple. Yea, i saw ppl using it even they not as ^^ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollyShot 968 Report post Posted September 19, 2022 @Overlady if this is happenning i believe the mount should be "inactive" till the player changes class for AS again. Otherwise exclusive mount class is no-sense. 5 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChocolateTeapot 186 Report post Posted September 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Mjizzy_7 said: Yea, i saw ppl using it even they not as ^^ Not so exclusive then, right? xD Ty anyway 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoZilla 123 Report post Posted September 19, 2022 1 hour ago, HollyShot said: @Overlady if this is happenning i believe the mount should be "inactive" till the player changes class for AS again. Otherwise exclusive mount class is no-sense. Agreed. 28 minutes ago, ChocolateTeapot said: Not so exclusive then, right? xD Ty anyway This. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lt1genv 493 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 On 9/19/2022 at 5:41 AM, ChocolateTeapot said: Not so exclusive then, right? xD Ty anyway I mean you pay 4kc for a mount and then you would pay 7.5kc for change class .. its not how you guys make it seem like any char can go buy it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Overlady 5,210 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) If you change your class, the mount will still remain active in your stable. Although it wasn't feasible at the start of the development process, this was the best option for how the other mount colors would interact with the character-bound crystals and the new method to obtain them (not related to Coin Shop crystal). We are willing to reconsider banning the use of the mount in other classes if the community deems this to be a huge problem. However, I believe banning the mount is more unfair and problematic overall. Best, Overlady Edited September 20, 2022 by Overlady 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lt1genv 493 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Overlady said: If you change your class, the mount will still remain active in your stable. Although it wasn't feasible at the start of the development process, this was the best option for how the other mount colors would interact with the character-bound crystals and the new method to obtain them (not related to Coin Shop crystal). We are willing to reconsider banning the use of the mount in other classes if the community deems this to be a huge problem. However, I believe banning the mount is more unfair and problematic overall. Best, Overlady Could not have agreed more. Well said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrGreen 109 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Overlady said: If you change your class, the mount will still remain active in your stable. Although it wasn't feasible at the start of the development process, this was the best option for how the other mount colors would interact with the character-bound crystals and the new method to obtain them (not related to Coin Shop crystal). We are willing to reconsider banning the use of the mount in other classes if the community deems this to be a huge problem. However, I believe banning the mount is more unfair and problematic overall. Best, Overlady Posible disabled the mount not exclusive to ur class... So some richkid not abuse this 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollyShot 968 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Overlady said: If you change your class, the mount will still remain active in your stable. Although it wasn't feasible at the start of the development process, this was the best option for how the other mount colors would interact with the character-bound crystals and the new method to obtain them (not related to Coin Shop crystal). We are willing to reconsider banning the use of the mount in other classes if the community deems this to be a huge problem. However, I believe banning the mount is more unfair and problematic overall. Best, Overlady This is no sense, if this supposed to be "exclusive" mounts for each class only the respective class should be able to use it. Otherwise is just another line of new mounts for everyone. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoZilla 123 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 I think the beauty of an exclusive mount is that your class is the ONLY class using it. I think seeing a super cool mount attached to only specific classes would add a super interesting dynamic to the game. Specially for those that play less popular classes, such as Assassins, Shaman, etc. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keshy 1,385 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 let's see what will win Players opinion x money opinion 1 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrunFreitt 62 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 The solution is easy, when changing classes, the mount changed together, for example... common Archer mount for common Pikeman mount... since there are 3 equal types for each character. 2 minutes ago, BrunFreitt said: The solution is easy, when changing classes, the mount changed together, for example... common Archer mount for common Pikeman mount... since there are 3 equal types for each character. another simpler solution: Class Mount alert : Do you want to switch classes? if yes, get your money back for the mount you bought. GM happy, player happy, no fights, ALL happy ?? 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrGreen 109 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Keshy said: let's see what will win Players opinion x money opinion I think the business will win ? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rasthafary 185 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 let's get to the point. will the free class mount come? :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keshy 1,385 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 The 2 year promise (yes 2 years practically) was an exclusive mount for each class. In addition to creating an expectation that was shaken by being placed in the coinshop (and for its value) nothing fairer for the idea is to be able to use it only for the class it represents. That is: If I am an AS and become an MGS, the mount will remain there, but I can only use it if I am an AS. Unlike the BS event mount that was given as a reward, the "exclusive mounts for each class" is something like the name itself says, exclusive. I'll take advantage of the post (again) and ask, @Overlady what about the patch note? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrGreen 109 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 Just now, Rasthafary said: let's get to the point. will the free class mount come? :) Or else make a Quest for exclusive mount class... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Overlady 5,210 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Rasthafary said: let's get to the point. will the free class mount come? :) We never promised it, the value of all other mounts would be destroyed if you had a legendary mount that everyone else also owned. The only value we can assign to mounts is prestige, and this will continue to be in the other colors that will not be obtained easily (similar what we did with Hestian). It is important to keep in mind that mount value is mostly cosmetic/prestige, not status. Best, Overlady 20 minutes ago, Keshy said: The 2 year promise (yes 2 years practically) was an exclusive mount for each class. In addition to creating an expectation that was shaken by being placed in the coinshop (and for its value) nothing fairer for the idea is to be able to use it only for the class it represents. That is: If I am an AS and become an MGS, the mount will remain there, but I can only use it if I am an AS. Unlike the BS event mount that was given as a reward, the "exclusive mounts for each class" is something like the name itself says, exclusive. I'll take advantage of the post (again) and ask, @Overlady what about the patch note? Brawler Mount is also usable by other classes, and both follows the same design, except that we sent the mount directly to the stable but it has the color design of Brawler. Sorry, I'm not responsible for Patch Notes, but it will certainly be out when the server is considered almost bug free from the patch before the hotfixes. Best, Overlady. Edited September 20, 2022 by Overlady 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xkintaro 1,727 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Overlady said: We never promised it, the value of all other mounts would be destroyed if you had a legendary mount that everyone else also owned. The only value we can assign to mounts is prestige, and this will continue to be in the other colors that will not be obtained easily (similar what we did with Hestian). It is important to keep in mind that mount value is mostly cosmetic/prestige, not status. Best, Overlady any chance of getting a mount for beginners, quest reward, something with less speed but better than running speed 10- on low level chars? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rasthafary 185 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Overlady said: We never promised it, the value of all other mounts would be destroyed if you had a legendary mount that everyone else also owned. The only value we can assign to mounts is prestige, and this will continue to be in the other colors that will not be obtained easily (similar what we did with Hestian). It is important to keep in mind that mount value is mostly cosmetic/prestige, not status. Best, Overlady I know you didn't promise anything for free, but it would be nice, I think most of the sever don't have 4kc left to buy 1 more mount. :( 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moobie1988 1,233 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) @Overlady I have a solution for this. Add a Class Bonus to the exclusive mounts. Hence a Mage with an AS exclusive mount will not be able to take advantage of the exclusive mount class. Bonus speed for AS Spec. or a penalty of -50% in speed if other than the specific class of that particular mount. Problem solved topic closed. ? Edited September 20, 2022 by moobie1988 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Overlady 5,210 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, moobie1988 said: @Overlady I have a solution for this. Add a Class Bonus to the exclusive mounts. Hence a Mage with an AS exclusive mount will not be able to take advantage of the exclusive mount class AS Spec. It doesn't seem like a very coherent idea, then we would have a mount in Coin Shop that would have bonuses that others in the game would not. Everyone would have to use the mount of their class and the other mounts released in the future would also be unusable? We would have the option to keep it like this, free the class mount for all classes, or lock them only for the designed class. If it is locked, we will have to deal with players who bought and changed classes and players who have kyanite wolf, or we will have to code an exclusive exception for kyanite wolf. Best, Overlady Edited September 20, 2022 by Overlady 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoZilla 123 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 My vote is to loc 5 minutes ago, Overlady said: It doesn't seem like a very coherent idea, then we would have a mount in Coin Shop that would have bonuses that others in the game would not. Everyone would have to use the mount of their class and the other mounts released in the future would also be unusable? We would have the option to keep it like this, free the class mount for all classes, or lock them only for the designed class. If it is locked, we will have to deal with players who bought and changed classes and players who have kyanite wolf, or we will have to code an exclusive exception for kyanite wolf. Best, Overlady My vote is to lock them only for the designed class :D. I'm happy that you guys are at least considering what the player base is saying here. Let's see what other people think :). On a lighter note.... the AS mount is beautiful... I cannot wait to see the rest. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
- D E A T H S T R O K E - 1,760 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) Quote any chance of getting a mount for beginners, quest reward, something with less speed but better than running speed 10- on low level chars? +1, as a Quest teaching how to capture mounts, It would be great since it would also serve as a tutorial for new players. I personally don't mind the price nor changing class to use different mounts, since it's entirely cosmetic, but I like the idea of having a especial effect when you're using the correct class. wolverine more speed, knight's lion more dismount res..? Edited September 20, 2022 by - D E A T H S T R O K E - 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xkintaro 1,727 Report post Posted September 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, Overlady said: It doesn't seem like a very coherent idea, then we would have a mount in Coin Shop that would have bonuses that others in the game would not. Everyone would have to use the mount of their class and the other mounts released in the future would also be unusable? We would have the option to keep it like this, free the class mount for all classes, or lock them only for the designed class. If it is locked, we will have to deal with players who bought and changed classes and players who have kyanite wolf, or we will have to code an exclusive exception for kyanite wolf. Best, Overlady the exclusivity could be an animation detail, an extra shine, for using it in the right class. something to encourage using in the right class, but not interfere with gameplay 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites