Skills balance???

[vhnh167 284]

11 hours ago, kntyan said:

Mech "SPARK SHIELD" is not working! Even with +MS shield.

Don't mind me, I thought you said magnetic sphere.

Edited November 7, 2022 by vhnh167

[BigFoot 375]

2 hours ago, vhnh167 said:

It's working differently now. Put in on a quick slot and press once. It will be used instantly.

This skill is so wrong now.  It's not even close to the definition of reflect damage.  Now it has to be "manually" reflect damage???
What a joke.

Edited November 7, 2022 by BigFoot

[vhnh167 284]

21 minutes ago, BigFoot said:

This skill is so wrong now.  It's not even close to the definition of reflect damage.  Now it has to be "manually" reflect damage???
What a joke.

Hi man, my bad, I thought he was talking about magnetic sphere. I think spark shield can now be used simultaneously with Extreme Shield so they made it less powerful?

[NaCl 314]

2 hours ago, BigFoot said:

This skill is so wrong now.  It's not even close to the definition of reflect damage.  Now it has to be "manually" reflect damage???
What a joke.

if it works instantly, reflecting damage, that's nice

 

same as ps can dodge finishing moves like DT, mech can reflect damage when player sees enemy finishing skill animation, helping damage to finish enemy off

 

example, ps cast SM or CS, mech turn on reflect damage, if all hits get past mechs absolute defense (block, defence), while he's still hitting, could be a turn tables move

another example, mech x fs:

mech hit 600 on fs (no crit considered)

fs has 2k hp

mech has 2 hits on skill

max hit would be 1200

fs can easily pot that and don't die

fs cast DT

mech turn reflect damage while DT is "charging"

DT hits 3 900's on mech

mech reflect 55% of 2700 damage received = 1485 (no char defense/abs considered)

mech hit twice while reflecting damage = 1200 + 1485 damage

mech wins

 

oldschool runescape has a magic skill like that, vengeance, reflects damage, not instantly, you cast, and receive a "buff", next damage received will be reflected, can reflect 1, can reflect 80 (max hp is 99)

but that's really promising for mech, just need skill to work and some adjustments tho

 

i guess that's more for pvp 

pve working like that is not good at all

Edited November 7, 2022 by NaCl

[gbmarques77 2]

any news about skill's balance? FS still sucks in pve, so i will play to death in SL with my fs 15x? XD give us some love pls. i just wanna play in EB like the others class 

[ChainLancer 99]

51 minutes ago, gbmarques77 said:

any news about skill's balance? FS still sucks in pve, so i will play to death in SL with my fs 15x? XD give us some love pls. i just wanna play in EB like the others class 

Fs in EB uses 1 hand 142 is good.

You can use prs to buff HP, regen, abs Hat...

 

Especially, Berserker skill's Abs penalty was reduced.

 

Level	Attack Power Boost (PvE)	Attack Power Boost (PvP)	Absorb Penalty (PvE)	Absorb Penalty (PvP)	Demon Damage Boost	Cooldown (sec)	Duration (sec)	MP Usage	SP Usage	Upgrade Fee (gp)
1	1	1	1	1	5	5	300	52	60	30,000
2	1	1	1	1	6	5	300	55	62	36,000
3	2	2	2	2	6	5	300	58	64	42,000
4	3	3	2	2	7	5	300	61	66	48,000
5	4	4	3	3	7	5	300	64	68	54,000
6	5	5	3	3	8	5	300	67	70	60,000
7	6	6	4	4	8	5	300	70	72	66,000
8	7	7	4	4	9	5	300	73	74	72,000
9	8	8	5	5	9	5	300	76	76	78,000
10	9	9	5	5	10	5	300	79	78	84,000

 

 

 

[Zetsu~ 84]

28 minutes ago, ChainLancer said:

Fs in EB uses 1 hand 142 is good.

You can use prs to buff HP, regen, abs Hat...

 

Especially, Berserker skill's Abs penalty was reduced.

 

 

 

Not all players here have prst to buff ur char....

[ChainLancer 99]

15 minutes ago, Zetsu~ said:

Not all players here have prst to buff ur char....

Just buy a prs naked 8~10kc, gear up some low level items because just for buff and regen.

If can not invest more 8 10kc is hard to play in EB.

 

Rangers also need to invest a Prs full items.

 

A prs 150 full items can tank and regen in EB ~ 25kc.

A ranger 150 char with weapon ~ 15kc min.

40kc.

 

Fs 150 full items ~ 32kc (char 8kc, armor+shield 140+24 8kc, axe 142+24 8kc, set 140 3kc, set boss 3 bsol 5kc)

A prs 148-150 naked 8-10kc.

All ~40kc.

[s0ckch3 98]

58 minutes ago, KriKa. said:

Comming soon next summer

With new class 

New map exp 140+

Stay tunned february 30 2023

ok 30 feb xD 

[DeadlyWarrior 688]

8 hours ago, ChainLancer said:

Just buy a prs naked 8~10kc, gear up some low level items because just for buff and regen.

If can not invest more 8 10kc is hard to play in EB.

 

Rangers also need to invest a Prs full items.

 

A prs 150 full items can tank and regen in EB ~ 25kc.

A ranger 150 char with weapon ~ 15kc min.

40kc.

 

Fs 150 full items ~ 32kc (char 8kc, armor+shield 140+24 8kc, axe 142+24 8kc, set 140 3kc, set boss 3 bsol 5kc)

A prs 148-150 naked 8-10kc.

All ~40kc.

 

Lol you sold your fs and all the items why? 

 

When you are in a party a Prs can only buff you with VL - yes it helps for the survival. But thats all you pay 8-10kc just for a VL? lol

 

You tested the damage in the 142 axe compared to others? For what use 146 Axe/Sword? Pvp weapons? xD

 

Come on the Problem about FS is not only the survival. Made a big topic about it if your really interested. 

 

Your just saying words that doesnt cost anything the players are the one who suffer and pay with time and money to get a class that is like an failed experiment

[ChainLancer 99]

13 minutes ago, DeadlyWarrior said:

 

Lol you sold your fs and all the items why? 

 

When you are in a party a Prs can only buff you with VL - yes it helps for the survival. But thats all you pay 8-10kc just for a VL? lol

 

You tested the damage in the 142 axe compared to others? For what use 146 Axe/Sword? Pvp weapons? xD

 

Come on the Problem about FS is not only the survival. Made a big topic about it if your really interested. 

 

Your just saying words that doesnt cost anything the players are the one who suffer and pay with time and money to get a class that is like an failed experiment

Many persons paid 8 10kc for prs, mgs, ata, ss naked... only to get their buff.

 

And I just give the solution for Fs that can play in EB.

 

What you want is the balance which never happen in Wartale because of different char/skills.

 

For current situation of PVE, it was already explained many times:

 

1. Different chars, different skills, different stats...

2. Most players do not want the map like SL before (very low to kill a monster), so monsters will reduce abs/hp but has bigger dame=> need gear up and get buff to survive.

3. Not only FS, other chars need buff/support/tank for better hunting.

[NaCl 314]

so the solution for skills balance is to buy a prs?

 

wow that's wonderful 

[NeoHiei 514]

6 minutes ago, NaCl said:

so the solution for skills balance is to buy a prs?

 

wow that's wonderful 

some people shouldn't be taken seriously

[Phantasus 65]

11 hours ago, ChainLancer said:

Many persons paid 8 10kc for prs, mgs, ata, ss naked... only to get their buff.

 

And I just give the solution for Fs that can play in EB.

 

What you want is the balance which never happen in Wartale because of different char/skills.

 

For current situation of PVE, it was already explained many times:

 

1. Different chars, different skills, different stats...

2. Most players do not want the map like SL before (very low to kill a monster), so monsters will reduce abs/hp but has bigger dame=> need gear up and get buff to survive.

3. Not only FS, other chars need buff/support/tank for better hunting.

 

Its better for every class to have VL.

Better have prs and problem solved

Edited November 10, 2022 by Phantasus

[DeadlyWarrior 688]

15 hours ago, ChainLancer said:

Many persons paid 8 10kc for prs, mgs, ata, ss naked... only to get their buff.

 

And I just give the solution for Fs that can play in EB.

 

What you want is the balance which never happen in Wartale because of different char/skills.

 

For current situation of PVE, it was already explained many times:

 

1. Different chars, different skills, different stats...

2. Most players do not want the map like SL before (very low to kill a monster), so monsters will reduce abs/hp but has bigger dame=> need gear up and get buff to survive.

3. Not only FS, other chars need buff/support/tank for better hunting.

 

You have to check with tank and without tank

 

Rangers PRS ATA SS MGS equipped can play EB also without a Tank same as FS no difference. 

With tank: they win because they have the click&hit play while FS recieve splash damage and have to controll the mouse because of the skills like Vortex or rotations. They have the advantage over FS here also in terms of DPS. FS have the advantage in DPS when he recieve the buffs of those classes. 

[P0C0Y0 130]

Stil no news ? WHat are they doing there > Drinking beer and smoke weed and smile at us ? Look at those fools, they dont know what happend and still spend coins... lets fool those coin spenders and change game so they spend more coins..

Edited November 12, 2022 by P0C0Y0