P0C0Y0 130 Report post Posted November 24, 2022 (edited) So 3e eye should give you benefit on drops.. So why dont any of my chars get a decend drop whit 3 Eye. I hear in clan that peeps whit NO 3eye get better drops..Even in EB they get beter drops then a char/person whit 3e eye? So whats the use of 3e Eye ? And even whit bosses.. Peeps whit no 3e eye get the good rolls..Is it a scam ? Edited November 24, 2022 by P0C0Y0 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HoOoOoDLUM 112 Report post Posted November 24, 2022 as far as i know , 3rd eye give you a chance of having 1 additional drop , it doesnt give you a better chance to drop something more valuable in general , in the end its still all RNG regarding all drops u can get 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Overlady 5,238 Report post Posted November 24, 2022 @HoOoOoDLUM answered your question. Quote Peeps whit no 3e eye get the good rolls Why should 3rd eyes allow you get better rolls if the number is random generated? Does not sound fair at all. Best, Overlady 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anghel0506 166 Report post Posted November 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, Overlady said: Does not sound fair at all. Is not fair too when the 3rd eye works as a double air drop, the description says "One additional drop" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GuardianMEC 182 Report post Posted November 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Anghel0506 said: Is not fair too when the 3rd eye works as a double air drop, the description says "One additional drop" Yes, one additional Air drop or Gold pot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Overlady 5,238 Report post Posted November 24, 2022 37 minutes ago, GuardianMEC said: Yes, one additional Air drop or Gold pot 3rd Eyes is designed like this since the beginning. For more than a decade, its function has not changed. This is different than asking for priority roll to get a Relic Fragment or a Centlon Bracelet for example Best, Overlady 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nameless10 208 Report post Posted November 24, 2022 2 hours ago, P0C0Y0 said: So 3e eye should give you benefit on drops.. So why dont any of my chars get a decend drop whit 3 Eye. I hear in clan that peeps whit NO 3eye get better drops..Even in EB they get beter drops then a char/person whit 3e eye? So whats the use of 3e Eye ? And even whit bosses.. Peeps whit no 3e eye get the good rolls..Is it a scam ? If you expect what you think, all players have all this descent drops then ? and all items will be no value in less than a year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ik3r 948 Report post Posted November 24, 2022 (edited) to drop more pots, when you use 3eye you dont need go to any city to buy pots when you are uping Edited November 24, 2022 by ik3r 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GuardianMEC 182 Report post Posted November 24, 2022 At no point did I mention priority, I just agreed that the 3rd eye behaves at least strangely. I don't even buy anymore because I already used one and I didn't even drop 3 sapp in SL while using it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xkintaro 1,927 Report post Posted November 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, GuardianMEC said: At no point did I mention priority, I just agreed that the 3rd eye behaves at least strangely. I don't even buy anymore because I already used one and I didn't even drop 3 sapp in SL while using it same idea here, also i lost too much 3eye time going into bosses, centlon+draxos at night taking 1hour a day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxRazieLxXx 169 Report post Posted November 24, 2022 each "drop" have a chance of coming one thing from a drop list (and of course air and gold have more chance) so if a monster drops 3 piles of gold in the floor its 3 drops with chance of coming one thing from the list and by a random chance gold was selected. third eye gives you one extra chance by giving you one more drop (which can also be air) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vhnh167 285 Report post Posted November 26, 2022 3rd eyes are really useful during events ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulo Henrique 25 Report post Posted November 27, 2022 not even with 10 eyes i can drop something decent in this game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dior 637 Report post Posted November 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, bernd88 said: I play this game for more than 3 years and i never had a drop thats worth something my most expensive item i ever found was L Key Welcome to the club, 2009 here, once i won Draxos boot lotto and that's till now. even on officials i was luckier. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
s0ckch3 98 Report post Posted November 27, 2022 Even im using 3eye in party 6 members i still getting only 2 things (gold). Wth??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Milunio 115 Report post Posted November 27, 2022 6 hours ago, Dior said: Welcome to the club, 2009 here, once i won Draxos boot lotto and that's till now. even on officials i was luckier. I never got some thing. 2x 138 weapons when already 142 was ingame. That’s it for all my gaming time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadTale 763 Report post Posted November 28, 2022 Only way to have higher drop rates w/o crashing game economy is reworking aging system. - remove aging/item recovery from game. - set break items in aging to come back to player with +1 or +2 aging level but as a timed item like 7days, disappearing afterwards. I understand having no option to restore item is a price to pay.... but playing for 2 years and geting no good stuff because 0.0000000000001% drop chance is even worse price we already paying... . Also it's prossible to divide items into fragments like 10 fragments for a 100% guarantee drax boot... fragments would cost like 10% of thw crafted item and would have 10x higher drop rate... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Support 4,450 Report post Posted November 28, 2022 44 minutes ago, MadTale said: but playing for 2 years and geting no good stuff because 0.0000000000001% drop chance is even worse price we already paying... This is coming from my personal experience: I have been playing this game since 2005 and I can tell you I have never played on any server that you can get new item on the 1st day of release. The whole drop is all about luck, it has nothing do with 3rd eye or how long you have been playing. The 3rd eye just gave you one additional drop which mean you will have a better chance. In real life, you don't win a jackpot because you bought more ticket or buying it for 5,10 or 20 years..., buying more ticket just gave you more chance to win and also more chance to get you closer to be broke. I never got a good drop, and I was hardcore gamer with always be on top ranking, there was no EXP service back in the old day. The best thing I got was 7 years ago I think, when I just came back from break and joined a random HG for the 1st time and boom, I got a HG Bracelet as reward, and it was sold for very good price back then. Years after years, people seem to forget one very important thing about game is that you have to keep playing and keep working hard to get what you want. To the extent of it, that doesn't mean you will get good drop, it simply means you get other things that you can exchange and save up and buy the thing you need. Maybe you can suggest for a new system whereas item fragments can be dropped, and you can use them to weld your own with a chance of failing. Hope this will help someone to ease up their mind and don't over thinking that if you use the 3rd eye, you have to get something good. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadTale 763 Report post Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) @Support i see, But at no time i said high end item must drop easy did i? What i said is it COULD BE alot higher IF we remove age recover from game. It's a matter of choice of which patch is best. Just remembering this is a game, so fun is a priority and boringness is something we want avoid. Also i didn't say anything about 3eye... Imo it would be alot batter if we had like 10x higher drop rate and no age recover. Also items split into 10 frags it would mean 100x higher drop rate of cool/relevant stuff ? ALOT more fun than playing lotery billions of times and fail endlessly... Edited November 29, 2022 by MadTale Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Support 4,450 Report post Posted November 29, 2022 40 minutes ago, MadTale said: But at no time i said high end item must drop easy did i? I am not here to argue of what you said or did not say. Simply quote and provide my personal experience about the topic as whole, nothing to you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WarLord 87 Report post Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Support said: This is coming from my personal experience: I have been playing this game since 2005 and I can tell you I have never played on any server that you can get new item on the 1st day of release. The whole drop is all about luck, it has nothing do with 3rd eye or how long you have been playing. The 3rd eye just gave you one additional drop which mean you will have a better chance. In real life, you don't win a jackpot because you bought more ticket or buying it for 5,10 or 20 years..., buying more ticket just gave you more chance to win and also more chance to get you closer to be broke. I never got a good drop, and I was hardcore gamer with always be on top ranking, there was no EXP service back in the old day. The best thing I got was 7 years ago I think, when I just came back from break and joined a random HG for the 1st time and boom, I got a HG Bracelet as reward, and it was sold for very good price back then. Years after years, people seem to forget one very important thing about game is that you have to keep playing and keep working hard to get what you want. To the extent of it, that doesn't mean you will get good drop, it simply means you get other things that you can exchange and save up and buy the thing you need. Maybe you can suggest for a new system whereas item fragments can be dropped, and you can use them to weld your own with a chance of failing. Hope this will help someone to ease up their mind and don't over thinking that if you use the 3rd eye, you have to get something good. Totally agree with Supporter. Many players use 3eye but do not know exactly what is benefit. Use eye you will get more 1 drop. 1 drop includes many thing such as gears, L keys, sheltom, dagaz, sieg... And when you have pt 6 players, you will have more 1 drop. => +2 chance to get items. Im sure that you will get more dagaz, sheltom... and then you can sell to get back your invesment. If it is totally useless, no one buy it. 1st you should think about enjoying your childhood game, then everything will come. Edited November 29, 2022 by WarLord Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadTale 763 Report post Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Support said: I am not here to argue of what you said or did not say. Simply quote and provide my personal experience about the topic as whole, nothing to you. Aff ok ? Fun fact: First 142 item ever dropped in wartale was dropped in first day of map release. And in first mob killed by an 144 fs. ? Edited November 29, 2022 by MadTale Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vhnh167 285 Report post Posted November 29, 2022 9 hours ago, Support said: This is coming from my personal experience: I have been playing this game since 2005 and I can tell you I have never played on any server that you can get new item on the 1st day of release. The whole drop is all about luck, it has nothing do with 3rd eye or how long you have been playing. The 3rd eye just gave you one additional drop which mean you will have a better chance. In real life, you don't win a jackpot because you bought more ticket or buying it for 5,10 or 20 years..., buying more ticket just gave you more chance to win and also more chance to get you closer to be broke. I never got a good drop, and I was hardcore gamer with always be on top ranking, there was no EXP service back in the old day. The best thing I got was 7 years ago I think, when I just came back from break and joined a random HG for the 1st time and boom, I got a HG Bracelet as reward, and it was sold for very good price back then. Years after years, people seem to forget one very important thing about game is that you have to keep playing and keep working hard to get what you want. To the extent of it, that doesn't mean you will get good drop, it simply means you get other things that you can exchange and save up and buy the thing you need. Maybe you can suggest for a new system whereas item fragments can be dropped, and you can use them to weld your own with a chance of failing. Hope this will help someone to ease up their mind and don't over thinking that if you use the 3rd eye, you have to get something good. Nice analogy comparing 3rd eye with buying more lottery tickets! Most people seem to forget that items mostly drop from non-users of 3rd eye because these players hunt almost 16/24 day after day, in groups of 6 for years. Of course they wouldn't want to waste tons of coins on 3rd eye just for a slightly better chance. 6 hours ago, MadTale said: @Support i see, But at no time i said high end item must drop easy did i? What i said is it COULD BE alot higher IF we remove age recover from game. It's a matter of choice of which patch is best. Just remembering this is a game, so fun is a priority and boringness is something we want avoid. Also i didn't say anything about 3eye... Imo it would be alot batter if we had like 10x higher drop rate and no age recover. Also items split into 10 frags it would mean 100x higher drop rate of cool/relevant stuff ? ALOT more fun than playing lotery billions of times and fail endlessly... Hmm, if the chance is 10x higher, a 142 item would cost 200 coins and a brand new 146 weapon would cost 2-4kc? I wouldn't feel so happy/motivated to go hunting anymore. Clearly I can get much more coins from mining/looting coin sacks or doing SOD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Support 4,450 Report post Posted November 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, bernd88 said: if you play a game for years and never get a drop so you will never be able to buy a 144 item you think this is fair? I am sharing my experience, so I am not sure what you are talking about fair here? 13 minutes ago, bernd88 said: im saving for more than one year for 144 staff and im far far far away to buy one. Maybe you need to learn how to play smarter, because I and many non-donators here did buy many of my stuff from saving up and buy cheap and sell high to make profit. 15 minutes ago, bernd88 said: this is a joke and only people who buy coins can get 144+ stuff ... this is not fair at all and people will leave this sever more and more If you are here long enough, you might have seen this for years already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ainih 29 Report post Posted November 29, 2022 I play on PC and a laptop. While I hunt in EB. My laptop is on boss hunting. And one prolly in SOD. I work also 12hrs per shift. Even 16hrs sometimes. And no eye I snatched a draxos boots in one of then many lottos. But thats after 2 years of playing wartale lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites