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I have some doubts about the shaman.
First topic:
- Guide amulet +2 or T. amulet Bsol?
- Earrings? Grace +2 or Triadic +2?
- Bracelet, I see that some prefer to use 140, 144, but I see many using 106 DNT Bsol, which would be the best? what's the best mix for each?
- Gloves? Greedy? or any other?
Second topic:
- about skills, is dark wave still viable? I realized that scratch gives more critical and is much faster.
About my SS:
"I'm 15x and I always had these doubts, I tried to do some tests with the bracelets, earrings and amulet and I'm still in doubt."

If you can contribute what would be your perfect items, skills and perfect stats, I appreciate it.

 

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-Vodka-

The bild who rides it is you. This is a very personal choice, anyway if you are going to level up usually brac 106 because it asks for less agility pvp hell brac, or 140,144... Earrings same thing HP for pvp, regen for up. Dark wave is very slow these days.

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1 hour ago, -Vodka- said:

The bild who rides it is you. This is a very personal choice, anyway if you are going to level up usually brac 106 because it asks for less agility pvp hell brac, or 140,144... Earrings same thing HP for pvp, regen for up. Dark wave is very slow these days.

thanks a lot man 

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NaCl

i haven't played with shaman in a while, especially after frame rework, but some question i can help 

as it equipment, the same logic applies to every char

 

about bracelet

when building your set, some may require more agility than other

look agility needs:

Gauntlets 136 agi 62 ~ 66 (min ~ max)

greedy agi 62 ~ 66

gloves 140 agi 66 ~ 70

 

boots 136 agi 72 ~ 77

boots 140 agi 72 ~ 77

draxos agi 72 ~ 77

 

bracelet 106 agi 71 ~ 75

bracelet 136 agi 100 ~ 107

bracelet 140 agi 104 ~ 111

 

in short, comparing 106 and 140 bracelets, those stats you gain using 140, considering both perfect:

atk rating 170

defense 180

integrity 80

pots 70

 

but, for that, you must invest 33 agility points more than 106 brac

that's 3 levels worth of stat points

for a build with more atk power, you throw away those stats for better offence, would increase 33 points in spirit 

since other parts of set require max 72 agi (boots), you "don't need" 104 agi for brac only

 

that's for you to choose, better atk rating and defense, or better atk power

---

 

gloves are the same way, if you can tank, if you shaman don't die so ofter, and you want to build best atk game has to offer, use greedy

greedy doesn't offer THAT great of better atk, but it's something, if your 15x, 15 atk power

people often would choose other gloves since its defense is better

but that's other option in a build for you to choose

 

---

dark wave was something before frame rework, doesn't worth nowadays, i guess

but, dark wave hit aoe, i guess, or used to

so if there's two mobs close to each other, you would hit them both instead of only one while using scratch

this last part need testing, but in theory that's it

 

 

 

 

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Do you have a tanker? If so, go for a pure build. Use a low-level set (check the limit stats for the set you will use). You will basically add all points into intelligence and some into strength (to use phantom) and add 1 point into healt to use either the vivid or resplendent earring. (use AS spec)

I prefer to use the 142 amulet so that even if it's a pure build, it can still tank AOE hits when taking damage, if it happens.

 

 

In PvP, there are no secrets, use the best items you can. Bracelet 106 is something you will only use in PvE (such as in dungeons). Outside of that, it's a very bad item.

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5 hours ago, NaCl said:

i haven't played with shaman in a while, especially after frame rework, but some question i can help 

as it equipment, the same logic applies to every char

 

about bracelet

when building your set, some may require more agility than other

look agility needs:

Gauntlets 136 agi 62 ~ 66 (min ~ max)

greedy agi 62 ~ 66

gloves 140 agi 66 ~ 70

 

boots 136 agi 72 ~ 77

boots 140 agi 72 ~ 77

draxos agi 72 ~ 77

 

bracelet 106 agi 71 ~ 75

bracelet 136 agi 100 ~ 107

bracelet 140 agi 104 ~ 111

 

in short, comparing 106 and 140 bracelets, those stats you gain using 140, considering both perfect:

atk rating 170

defense 180

integrity 80

pots 70

 

but, for that, you must invest 33 agility points more than 106 brac

that's 3 levels worth of stat points

for a build with more atk power, you throw away those stats for better offence, would increase 33 points in spirit 

since other parts of set require max 72 agi (boots), you "don't need" 104 agi for brac only

 

that's for you to choose, better atk rating and defense, or better atk power

---

 

gloves are the same way, if you can tank, if you shaman don't die so ofter, and you want to build best atk game has to offer, use greedy

greedy doesn't offer THAT great of better atk, but it's something, if your 15x, 15 atk power

people often would choose other gloves since its defense is better

but that's other option in a build for you to choose

 

---

dark wave was something before frame rework, doesn't worth nowadays, i guess

but, dark wave hit aoe, i guess, or used to

so if there's two mobs close to each other, you would hit them both instead of only one while using scratch

this last part need testing, but in theory that's it

 

 

 

 

 

5 hours ago, NaCl said:

i haven't played with shaman in a while, especially after frame rework, but some question i can help 

as it equipment, the same logic applies to every char

 

about bracelet

when building your set, some may require more agility than other

look agility needs:

Gauntlets 136 agi 62 ~ 66 (min ~ max)

greedy agi 62 ~ 66

gloves 140 agi 66 ~ 70

 

boots 136 agi 72 ~ 77

boots 140 agi 72 ~ 77

draxos agi 72 ~ 77

 

bracelet 106 agi 71 ~ 75

bracelet 136 agi 100 ~ 107

bracelet 140 agi 104 ~ 111

 

in short, comparing 106 and 140 bracelets, those stats you gain using 140, considering both perfect:

atk rating 170

defense 180

integrity 80

pots 70

 

but, for that, you must invest 33 agility points more than 106 brac

that's 3 levels worth of stat points

for a build with more atk power, you throw away those stats for better offence, would increase 33 points in spirit 

since other parts of set require max 72 agi (boots), you "don't need" 104 agi for brac only

 

that's for you to choose, better atk rating and defense, or better atk power

---

 

gloves are the same way, if you can tank, if you shaman don't die so ofter, and you want to build best atk game has to offer, use greedy

greedy doesn't offer THAT great of better atk, but it's something, if your 15x, 15 atk power

people often would choose other gloves since its defense is better

but that's other option in a build for you to choose

 

---

dark wave was something before frame rework, doesn't worth nowadays, i guess

but, dark wave hit aoe, i guess, or used to

so if there's two mobs close to each other, you would hit them both instead of only one while using scratch

this last part need testing, but in theory that's it

 

 

 

 

got it, I would really follow this logic but I see a lot of SS using these builds, so it's pretty split. I appreciate the time to help me. Good game and thank you
4 hours ago, Keshy said:

Do you have a tanker? If so, go for a pure build. Use a low-level set (check the limit stats for the set you will use). You will basically add all points into intelligence and some into strength (to use phantom) and add 1 point into healt to use either the vivid or resplendent earring. (use AS spec)

I prefer to use the 142 amulet so that even if it's a pure build, it can still tank AOE hits when taking damage, if it happens.

 

 

In PvP, there are no secrets, use the best items you can. Bracelet 106 is something you will only use in PvE (such as in dungeons). Outside of that, it's a very bad item.

perfect, bracelet 106 for PVE and brac lvl for pvp. Thank you very much!

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