Hains 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2011 As topic says... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randyhuynh 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2011 1.if we do, i say, remove 1v1 skill thing, this is not a good skill unless it PVE, like no benefit to PVP 2.make mage be able to tank with a skill 3.future: t5 AoE skill should be able to kill people in BC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D]ohkito 2 Report post Posted October 11, 2011 Peoples vote without justify,so they just troll the vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[Zurita] 12 Report post Posted October 11, 2011 Even if this is not the mage tank in pvp, should at least kill against someone who possessed very physical defense. And ur skill to kill 1x1 its too bad and slow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thuong1nguoi 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2011 Weak as always, miss like crazy, can't tank when pvp (unless have at least 1k HP). I wonder why staffs didn't do anything to help magic class? There are so many options: boots amplify, increase atk rate, improve the orbs, change HP formula. Nothing has changed yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edgardo 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2011 This thread has already failed. Before discussing mage pvp and shit we have to wait the desired and waited changes to come into play. Also, this thread has not the intention of bringing benefits to mages, since it may cause changes to happen before all skills released, which open path to screw mages again. This guy who made the thread posted spam in a magician thread in the Portuguese session, in a intent to make it close. He is actually worried with FS, which has nothing to do with mage. One more of those melee users who thinks mages can't be a class to pvp and hunt. Stop acting in bad faith like that or all you will get is to loose the lasting reputation you have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JotaPe 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2011 I Voted NO , because Mage must be a support char in a PvP War , not a killer. BUT, Mage MUST be improved to be a good supporter, like make Distorcion stronger, Mage the best (Or second, fisrt Mech Tanker build) tanker, and make some buffs useful... I think mage must be TANKER a lot, for at HUNT make a lure and kill all mobs, will not kill in x1, but in AOE , after a few minutes, will kill a lot of mobs... Is my opinion... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JotaPe 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2011 ^ Lesson 1: Never kick a kid of your forum! About your words... 1th: My server is 5 years OLD, and NEVER failed 2th: I never say I'm smarter than someone, I said that my ideas are better, and EVERY 1 that know me, say the same. And, if you say I'm wrong, this means that YOU are right? If you mean that you are Right, who's think that is the SMARTER? And at last, who are you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edgardo 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2011 ^ Lesson 1: Never kick a kid of your forum! About your words... 1th: My server is 5 years OLD, and NEVER failed 2th: I never say I'm smarter than someone, I said that my ideas are better, and EVERY 1 that know me, say the same. And, if you say I'm wrong, this means that YOU are right? If you mean that you are Right, who's think that is the SMARTER? And at last, who are you? I don't mean anything but the fact youre here, caring about other's creation, your jelly bitch. Why you aren't there in your motherfucking server? Go care abt your server, kthks. and what's your server again? u don't even mention it... shame? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JotaPe 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2011 Because I'm one of the Powerful players of Wartale, that OFC is the best PT and a lot better than mine PT, where I can't play All my donations in Wartale, I paid with the $$ of my server Then, Shut up, you never will touch me, because I'm me. If you want more, PM me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edgardo 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2011 Because I'm one of the Powerful players of Wartale, that OFC is the best PT and a lot better than mine PT, where I can't play All my donations in Wartale, I paid with the $$ of my server Then, Shut up, you never will touch me, because I'm me. If you want more, PM me Just to tell I've read your great reply. oh u got me, heheheh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D]ohkito 2 Report post Posted October 11, 2011 Oh, guys, could you don't turns this thread in a hater/flame thread, please ? Thank you. "Magician is a support class", please don't make me laugh. I always hear something like "this thing are supposed to be this or that way" always when I hear this I think with myself "man, where they guys take off this shits, are they blind ? because it's obvious thanwtcreate a new world of PT,Wartale bring PT to another level and peoples can't see this? Why "old" players have this kind of poor thought ? It's so clear thanwtupgrade the classes and this create a new concept of PT, why the people can't see this ?" PT is in a constant changes and some "smart" guys try to keep ultrapassed ideas and supposes, if they continue this, all that will do is fail.Fail after fail, until the get what is happening here. It's so sad when I saw some guys always trying to get improves for their classes and trying to screw up with the others. I've said this in our thread about magicians in BR section,I've said this in an interview for rPT's journal too. It's clear, so much clear than magicians will be more effective in Hunt/PvP, guys look at the t5, half of magician's t5 is for hunt/PvP ! It's so hard see that magicians will be more effective in PvP/Hunt? Why the "smartest" guys here can see this ? why they trying to keep ridiculous and old concepts that doesn't apply anymore ? Now JP, we had a little fight in BC some days ago, me vs your fighter, and you know than my mage are full 120+20 BOM itens and you killed me with ONE hit. After see this, you're really think than magicians doesn't need a improve ? Hell man, and u really think that are smart ? (I'm nor trying to offend you) At least, It's obvious than you know nothing,NOTHING about the mages. and please,don't come here and say that you have a magician lv X, have a char in a good level don't mean that you really know about a class. About the poll. The votes in this thread will expose how peoples are ignorants here.Always selfishes than want only improves for their favorites classes, so how magicians are a small class here -due to they poor abilities- the poll will show a lot of "no" because we have a lot of people that know nothing about the magicians and even don't play with magicians voting in no.Trying to keep magicias as Battle Points free like is at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randyhuynh 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2011 I Voted NO , because Mage must be a support char in a PvP War , not a killer. BUT, Mage MUST be improved to be a good supporter, like make Distorcion stronger, Mage the best (Or second, fisrt Mech Tanker build) tanker, and make some buffs useful... I think mage must be TANKER a lot, for at HUNT make a lure and kill all mobs, will not kill in x1, but in AOE , after a few minutes, will kill a lot of mobs... Is my opinion... what is said on my first post is what it suppose to be in ept it was kinda like this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JotaPe 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2011 Doh, stop to say bullshit, and read my first post.... stupid I Voted NO , because Mage must be a support char in a PvP War , not a killer. BUT, Mage MUST be improved to be a good supporter, like make Distorcion stronger, Mage the best (Or second, fisrt Mech Tanker build) tanker, and make some buffs useful... I think mage must be TANKER a lot, for at HUNT make a lure and kill all mobs, will not kill in x1, but in AOE , after a few minutes, will kill a lot of mobs... Is my opinion... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erik1234567 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2011 Removing skills and crap trying to make a mage support or tank hahaha nooo up the death beam power and double the dist power and gosh for a magic class that had robes abs waaay lower than any armor i can still hang with ppl 6-9 lvls higher than me ive dropped ppl wearing +20 donate crap so i think the mage is just fine the way he is now i wouldnt mind mind seeing death ray up in damage just a little but hey thats just a personal opinion of a player who is 6 years pro to a mage : Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D]ohkito 2 Report post Posted October 12, 2011 Doh, stop to say bullshit, and read my first post.... stupid I Voted NO , because Mage must be a support char in a PvP War , not a killer. BUT, Mage MUST be improved to be a good supporter, like make Distorcion stronger, Mage the best (Or second, fisrt Mech Tanker build) tanker, and make some buffs useful... I think mage must be TANKER a lot, for at HUNT make a lure and kill all mobs, will not kill in x1, but in AOE , after a few minutes, will kill a lot of mobs... Is my opinion... Did you ever look at the skills ? please, think man. LOL ! Yeah, the magicians have a poor tank abilities in PvP when they use a build pure OR hibrid, in other words, when they want "kill" someone. Improve their tank abilities not to be a master tanker smartass, but for magicians can "kill" without die with ONE hit. Did you realize now, genious ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erik1234567 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2011 Lol urm i got base health on my mage and a +15 sheild and im livin just fine now i cant handle 3-1000000 damn ppl hittin me at once but eh like mages were ever really meant for pvp they were str8 sod characters till prs got a massive aoe move and can use extinction in round 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShufflingMage 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2011 Just curious.. What was your total HP when JP "one hit" ko-ed you Dohkito ?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erik1234567 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2011 1hit ha could nva happen the skill hits 3 times or his other hits 2 times haha he not that good but then again i cant really talk cause im a mage but eh if i was fighter his lvl im sure it wouldnt be much of a challenge plus dohkito is a orb mage haha no block at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D]ohkito 2 Report post Posted October 12, 2011 Just curious.. What was your total HP when JP "one hit" ko-ed you Dohkito ?! don't remember. -.- something arround 646-760 HP, depends of the build that I was using, I change a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JotaPe 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2011 And Doh, don't lie, you died with 1 AC because you was without Energy Shield You never will win something lying... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D]ohkito 2 Report post Posted October 12, 2011 And Doh, don't lie, you died with 1 AC because you was without Energy Shield You never will win something lying... In fact I was using energy shield. It's was almost finishing but I guess that was working. btw, we can test now of u want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JotaPe 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2011 LOL I alreasy said that mage must tank more, with health or spirit build. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[D]ohkito 2 Report post Posted October 12, 2011 LOL I alreasy said that mage must tank more, with health or spirit build. this make all difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OceanStar 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2011 Even with 800 spirit + 120 staff + bellum force, I kill mobs in et3 slower than mech. Lol urm i got base health on my mage and a +15 sheild and im livin just fine now i cant handle 3-1000000 damn ppl hittin me at once but eh like mages were ever really meant for pvp they were str8 sod characters till prs got a massive aoe move and can use extinction in round 6 It depends on your opponent. Try base health with 120 +20 weapon. And if you go to et3, Xetan can kill you in 1 hit. By the way, what is your level? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites