S.O.D ReWork

[buttertoast 94]

at sod you easily can see that pike needs buff ... no pike ever is in top10 ... most of the time the highest pike makes 60kk ... this is a joke

pike needs buff.. pike needs his range and area back and more tornado dmg.. and more def / abs ... pike is the weakest melee...

[vberbes2 44]

12 minutes ago, Dior said:

ok, what about other classes then ?

 

Archer, ATA, Mage, Fs, MS, Shaman, Brawler ?

 

come on you know exactly what i mean.

Shaman same story other classes I can't say have never played them 

[Dior 633]

10 minutes ago, buttertoast said:

at sod you easily can see that pike needs buff ... no pike ever is in top10 ... most of the time the highest pike makes 60kk ... this is a joke

pike needs buff.. pike needs his range and area back and more tornado dmg.. and more def / abs ... pike is the weakest melee...

This topic is not about skill balance, even tho i agree with you 100%

 

i just want to make a point, nerfing range of skill lightning skill is not the right solution to S.o.D Problem.

 

[Zarkon 91]

Remove the share score between 4 rooms and problem will be solve

[Dior 633]

3 hours ago, Zarkon said:

Remove the share score between 4 rooms and problem will be solve

Explain please

[SupremeDeity 72]

30 minutes ago, Dior said:

Explain please

I believe he mean, no longer kick other players out all get to go to final around. 

[FluppyGM 131]

the solution is simple... just replace the sod monsters that are ranged with melee... with all melee monsters the melee characters will kill equal to or even more than the PRS... that's it... now if you don't want PRS to deal damage, you are asking to delete her from the game... it's the same as me asking to reduce how much MS can tank, imagine a character that doesn't tank and doesn't do damage, better delete the character then all his complaints will end and you can complain about another character that is better than the one you use. Of the three magical classes, the PRS tanks less than the mage and SS, and it only deals more damage than the SS... mage solos DG but no one says that mage is unbalanced... 

[Dior 633]

7 hours ago, FluppyGM said:

the solution is simple... just replace the sod monsters that are ranged with melee... with all melee monsters the melee characters will kill equal to or even more than the PRS... that's it... now if you don't want PRS to deal damage, you are asking to delete her from the game... it's the same as me asking to reduce how much MS can tank, imagine a character that doesn't tank and doesn't do damage, better delete the character then all his complaints will end and you can complain about another character that is better than the one you use. Of the three magical classes, the PRS tanks less than the mage and SS, and it only deals more damage than the SS... mage solos DG but no one says that mage is unbalanced... 

i also said nerfing prs was mistake, there is no need to change skills of specific class just because r3 in SOD.

 

the problem is not in the class, the problem is in SOD system.

[FluppyGM 131]

Spoiler

At the top of the list there aren't many PRS. 🤔
The top PRS is 13kk behind the number one. Another point is that all 100 players in the ranking are 15x at least, which means they have excellent equipment.

 

On 12/29/2023 at 1:30 PM, buttertoast said:

at sod you easily can see that pike needs buff ... no pike ever is in top10 ... most of the time the highest pike makes 60kk ... this is a joke

pike needs buff.. pike needs his range and area back and more tornado dmg.. and more def / abs ... pike is the weakest melee...

 

Looking at the current ranking, if a pike makes 60kk he is already in the top 50. By no means is this a bad score.

[buttertoast 94]

3 minutes ago, FluppyGM said:

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At the top of the list there aren't many PRS. 🤔
The top PRS is 13kk behind the number one. Another point is that all 100 players in the ranking are 15x at least, which means they have excellent equipment.

 

 

Looking at the current ranking, if a pike makes 60kk he is already in the top 50. By no means is this a bad score.

 

 

if you think a lvl 153 prs (which should be a support char and not mega killer) should be better than a 166 pike than you are drunk sir

[Dior 633]

6 hours ago, buttertoast said:

 

 

if you think a lvl 153 prs (which should be a support char and not mega killer) should be better than a 166 pike than you are drunk sir

+ he really thinks these players made solo score without PT or buffs. 

 

 

[Bé 265]

21 minutes ago, Dior said:

+ he really thinks these players made solo score without PT or buffs. 

 

 

Bro, I do agree that melee chars are weaker then priestess in R1-3 in SOD. For sure.

 

But its a wrong statement saying that players made solo scores with PT or buffs. Any buffs are reseted if you enter SOD room and you don't get a solo score if anyone come into your room together. 

 

We can both agree that there is some issues but I think that sticking with the true is the best. 

 

That being said, my opinion is:

 

If ONLY to get the score (not the gold) I can agree that people can stay in SOD even if they score is less. I don't agree with the posibility of staying in SOD even if you are seeking for gold AND lost the rounds. 

 

This way you can choose between going in a instance for score OR going into the survive or die hard mode (gor gold). In instance you don't need to wait till the dawn, in SOD for gold: yes. 

 

 

I think this can solve the issue.

 

Regards, 

 

Bé. 

 

 

 

[-HONOME- 14]

7 hours ago, buttertoast said:

 

 

if you think a lvl 153 prs (which should be a support char and not mega killer) should be better than a 166 pike than you are drunk sir

I'm looking for this prs 153 in front of the pike 166, but I can't find it

[buttertoast 94]

8 hours ago, -HONOME- said:

I'm looking for this prs 153 in front of the pike 166, but I can't find it

 

153 prs is not in front but its just 1 mil apart

2

Tô.Tổng

163

59393325

4629

14

Melpi

153

58457259

6823

*163 pike sry but u get the point... i guess.. or not ...

Edited December 31, 2023 by buttertoast

[-HONOME- 14]

6 hours ago, buttertoast said:

 

153 prs is not in front but its just 1 mil apart

2

Tô.Tổng

163

59393325

4629

14

Melpi

153

58457259

6823

*163 pike sry but u get the point... i guess.. or not ...

It's not necessarily ahead; it depends on the equipment and playstyle. The crucial point is that PRS's score was achieved "before the nerf." This PRS player is even outperforming others (PRS) at higher levels, highlighting the significance of their gameplay and strategy in SOD.

[buttertoast 94]

1 hour ago, -HONOME- said:

It's not necessarily ahead; it depends on the equipment and playstyle. The crucial point is that PRS's score was achieved "before the nerf." This PRS player is even outperforming others (PRS) at higher levels, highlighting the significance of their gameplay and strategy in SOD.

 

u a hater u dont even accept truth when its right before your eyes.. go play pike and see for yourself ... pike needs a tornado buff...

Edited December 31, 2023 by buttertoast

[Overlady 5,233]

Pikeman has the second-highest AoE range (210) with no target limit and the third-highest AoE DPS in the game (behind assassin and magician). Like  assassin, his DPS must be built with Damage over Time (DoT), which is not suitable for SoD.

In Bellatra, monsters die quickly, so you don't have time to stack it. Priestess actually has the lowest AoE DPS in the game without Thunderstorm, but she can still accumulate a good amount of points in the early rounds due to her long range (300) with a target limit. Meanwhile, Brawle with her low AoE DPS, can also reach 170 range in the second hit of Blast Wave.

 

SoD is built the way it is, we have some plans to change it in the future and rework its reward system, but it is not something that will happen tomorrow because the changes required are really complex.

 

Best,

Overlady

[buttertoast 94]

3 minutes ago, Overlady said:

Pikeman has the second-highest AoE range (210) with no target limit and the third-highest AoE DPS in the game (behind assassin and magician). Like  assassin, his DPS must be built with Damage over Time (DoT), which is not suitable for SoD.

In Bellatra, monsters die quickly, so you don't have time to stack it. Priestess actually has the lowest AoE DPS in the game without Thunderstorm, but she can still accumulate a good amount of points in the early rounds due to her long range (300) with a target limit. Meanwhile, Brawle with her low AoE DPS, can also reach 170 range in the second hit of Blast Wave.

 

SoD is built the way it is, we have some plans to change it in the future and rework its reward system, but it is not something that will happen tomorrow because the changes required are really complex.

 

Best,

Overlady

 

so enlightend us please why pike is so weak in sod when he has such a high dmg?! are all pike players noobs?

[Overlady 5,233]

15 minutes ago, buttertoast said:

 

so enlightend us please why pike is so weak in sod when he has such a high dmg?! are all pike players noobs?

Read again.

 

Best,

Overlady

[Shorex 226]

5 hours ago, buttertoast said:

 

so enlightend us please why pike is so weak in sod when he has such a high dmg?! are all pike players noobs?

 

2024 and still crying about pikes range 😂 

[FluppyGM 131]

18 minutes ago, Shorex said:

 

2024 and still crying about pikes range 😂 

How dare they don't make pike the best of the game🤯

[Dior 633]

lol i suggest to GM Team to go SOD and test all classes haha.

 

Mage and Pike are very weak now days when it comes to SOD.

[bernd88 180]

18 hours ago, Overlady said:

Pikeman has the second-highest AoE range (210) with no target limit and the third-highest AoE DPS in the game (behind assassin and magician). Like  assassin, his DPS must be built with Damage over Time (DoT), which is not suitable for SoD.

In Bellatra, monsters die quickly, so you don't have time to stack it. Priestess actually has the lowest AoE DPS in the game without Thunderstorm, but she can still accumulate a good amount of points in the early rounds due to her long range (300) with a target limit. Meanwhile, Brawle with her low AoE DPS, can also reach 170 range in the second hit of Blast Wave.

 

SoD is built the way it is, we have some plans to change it in the future and rework its reward system, but it is not something that will happen tomorrow because the changes required are really complex.

 

Best,

Overlady

 

a cute looking princess in a dress and a wand is stronger than a tough looking man in a armor looking like the death with a scythe

 

it totally makes sense when you turn of your brain like most people do here xD

10 hours ago, Ethereon said:

so, if you dont lying(you lie to me?), for why reason the suposedly highest dps in the game, the magician, is the mostly weak class in Sod??? Mgs only can reach anothers 10 class in SOD CORINGA who monsters dont deal tons of damage, but overall mgs reach 30kk and melees 55kk+. Are all mgs players noobs like pikes both?  Tsc tsc tsc ...

 

there is at least one mgs in top 10 most of the time ... i never saw a pike do more than 60kk ?!

 

mgs. prs, fighter, knight, shaman, assasin, brawler all do easy more than 60kk

 

but pike doesnt? hmm crazy ^^ but he has strongest dps.. so yea makes total sense (not)

On 12/31/2023 at 1:05 AM, Dior said:

+ he really thinks these players made solo score without PT or buffs. 

 

 

 

i guess you didnt play this game for years but still live in 2019 lmao

Edited January 1, 2024 by bernd88

[Dior 633]

36 minutes ago, bernd88 said:

 

a cute looking princess in a dress and a wand is stronger than a tough looking man in a armor looking like the death with a scythe

 

it totally makes sense when you turn of your brain like most people do here xD

 

there is at least one mgs in top 10 most of the time ... i never saw a pike do more than 60kk ?!

 

mgs. prs, fighter, knight, shaman, assasin, brawler all do easy more than 60kk

 

but pike doesnt? hmm crazy ^^ but he has strongest dps.. so yea makes total sense (not)

 

i guess you didnt play this game for years but still live in 2019 lmao

i love people who talk nonsense ❤️

 

how is your comment support the issue we trying to solve ?

 

again comparing only top chars with high end items ?

 

i stop care anymore, let the staff choise the community they want.

[Overlady 5,233]

12 hours ago, Ethereon said:

so, if you dont lying(you lie to me?), for why reason the suposedly highest dps in the game, the magician, is the mostly weak class in Sod??? Mgs only can reach anothers 10 class in SOD CORINGA who monsters dont deal tons of damage, but overall mgs reach 30kk and melees 55kk+. Are all mgs players noobs like pikes both?  Tsc tsc tsc ...

Magicians rely on skill rotation to achieve the highest DPS, including Watornado and Meteorite. Most of the damage comes from Meteorite, and its animation is really slow. After dealing all the damage, the magician gets stuck in the animation, requiring a few seconds to attack again. This delay is justified by the high damage output, especially when the target has high HP. However, this is not the case with SoD.

You can also compare his AoE range: Meteorite(145) and FW(250, but it is cone area, not circle) and Dias(140).

 

Anyway, the SoD environment has gameplay peculiarities that do not align with the current state of the game balance designed for open maps and instances.

 

Best,

Overlady

Edited January 1, 2024 by Overlady