Looting from Macro players

[???????? 53]

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will you compensate me? 

See? Some players just play the hardcore way, without macro.
One computer screen with 6 game window, the chats are impossible to see.
Plus even if he wanted to reply you, he can't, he controlling at least 2 (or 3) at the same time, while the other 3~4 chars are mule-buffers, that need to click every time buff ends.
 

So:
1. he can't see chats.
2. he also can't reply you.
3. if he did reply you, he needs to move all his 6 chars out of the monster area first, so he can reply, which you know there isn't in EB except entrance, so how he gonna do that? Plus the fact that killers are all pure, d-i-e instantly.
4, if he reply you on the spot, and his char can d-i-e immediately, you repay him the rebirth?
5. what about the troublesome effort to reply, because of the difficulty to do that? how you pay him that?

You all get the idea? 
I know what it is like, because I used to play 20+ chars on my two computers. (some were shops, because back then there wasn't Offline Shops)
The thing is that people who put lots of effort and you guys kept accusing abusers.
 

Personally, I can still reply when I play 6 chars, because I used to play Starcraft, Warcraft, which need to control dozens of troops, plus buildings, plus farmers, plus heros, so it's easier for me, but I'm getting old.

That's why I can solo multiple chars in Dungeons, without macro, all chars also different classes, either you say it's abuse or super effort. (Idk, and I don't care)
I also use alt+tab to change windows, so my computer screen is one game window only, so I can see chat easily, but most people don't wana alt+tab frequently, just wana use the mouse more, so they split one computer screen into 6 game windows.
Plus I bind keyboard short-cuts to macro-mouse, I bind mule-buffs casting, that is, F12345 on 1st mule, then alt+tab, then F12345 on the 2nd mule, then alt+tab, then F12345 on 3rd mule, etc, basically the same way RMT macro did, I mean this is the basic macro.
So I mean with macro, my hands are more free, my free time to stare at screen is more, so obviously if people ask me, easier for me to reply.
 

But for SUPER LEGIT NON-MACRO hardcore people, you gonna need some consideration, if you wana disturb them.
You guys are unlike me, I've been in every clan out-there spying, or just trolling/messing around, I see all kinds of things, I know you in this game.
So I can tell who to disturb, but if you just disturb the super-legit-hardcore, then you actually become the bad people..
Then your hate actually spreading more to someone else.

Then hate and hate, frustration and frustration.
 

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 nobody plans to log in and find someone to report

Sadly this is the only way GMs can start working.
They cannot find the suspect.
Like you ask policeman to find suspect, where they go find? 

 

For suggestions:
You released macro-able EB after unmacro-able Dungeons/Mining.
Like I suggested in the other topics:
1. If you put Mining random spawn in Hunt Map, so you gonna run around fight mobs instead of fix spot.
2. Then you put Mining anti-KillSteal in Hunt Map, so the same way, only the first party can deal dmg to the same mob. 
3. Then you add Dungeons boss mechanics onto those EB mobs, poison pool to dodge, explode confusion gas to dodge, mana sucking to 0 forcing mana-potting, spear-attack pushing tanker away, etc.

Macro would be dead in EB.

4. for boss same thing, you already have anti-AFK for centlon, just work from that.

 

 

To be honest, you lost like tons of Donators, over the years, because of the feeling they have, like these people feeling. 
I met tons of low-level newbies, after 1-week newbie honeymoon, then go DNT 15x16x. 
Then they discovered the RMT darkness, the macro darkness, the 24hr/7d exp-service darkness, etc. (the higher level you go, the more darkness you see, low-level is the best to enjoy the game)
Most q-u-i-ted less than 1 year of playing. 
They are mostly the kinds of Donators who buy cosmetics, and don't buy exp-service. (if you enjoy buying exp-service, then obviously you stay, otherwise byebye)
You can doubt my judgement, but I'm sure it's the same frustration and hate.
So does all these darkness, which is part of the game ecosystem, make server more profit, or the people who have left?
 

But GMs did a good job on EB, if you remove the macro part.
It's high quality and balanced. Every classes are more equal.

 

Alright.. sharing my thoughts on the deep-rooted problem of this game.

If you think I make things up, you can go ask the hardcore players who started from the beginning, they will share the same thoughts. (I believe)

And to me, Battleground or Titans or whatever, should still be the top-priority to hype up this game.
(I'll stop, no more posting, stop dc-ing or kicking me out of server)

[vberbes2 44]

15 minutes ago, ???????? said:

See? Some players just play the hardcore way, without macro.
One computer screen with 6 game window, the chats are impossible to see.
Plus even if he wanted to reply you, he can't, he controlling at least 2 (or 3) at the same time, while the other 3~4 chars are mule-buffers, that need to click every time buff ends.
 

So:
1. he can't see chats.
2. he also can't reply you.
3. if he did reply you, he needs to move all his 6 chars out of the monster area first, so he can reply, which you know there isn't in EB except entrance, so how he gonna do that? Plus the fact that killers are all pure, d-i-e instantly.
4, if he reply you on the spot, and his char can d-i-e immediately, you repay him the rebirth?
5. what about the troublesome effort to reply, because of the difficulty to do that? how you pay him that?

You all get the idea? 
I know what it is like, because I used to play 20+ chars on my two computers. (some were shops, because back then there wasn't Offline Shops)
The thing is that people who put lots of effort and you guys kept accusing abusers.
 

Personally, I can still reply when I play 6 chars, because I used to play Starcraft, Warcraft, which need to control dozens of troops, plus buildings, plus farmers, plus heros, so it's easier for me, but I'm getting old.

That's why I can solo multiple chars in Dungeons, without macro, all chars also different classes, either you say it's abuse or super effort. (Idk, and I don't care)
I also use alt+tab to change windows, so my computer screen is one game window only, so I can see chat easily, but most people don't wana alt+tab frequently, just wana use the mouse more, so they split one computer screen into 6 game windows.
Plus I bind keyboard short-cuts to macro-mouse, I bind mule-buffs casting, that is, F12345 on 1st mule, then alt+tab, then F12345 on the 2nd mule, then alt+tab, then F12345 on 3rd mule, etc, basically the same way RMT macro did, I mean this is the basic macro.
So I mean with macro, my hands are more free, my free time to stare at screen is more, so obviously if people ask me, easier for me to reply.
 

But for SUPER LEGIT NON-MACRO hardcore people, you gonna need some consideration, if you wana disturb them.
You guys are unlike me, I've been in every clan out-there spying, or just trolling/messing around, I see all kinds of things, I know you in this game.
So I can tell who to disturb, but if you just disturb the super-legit-hardcore, then you actually become the bad people..
Then your hate actually spreading more to someone else.

Then hate and hate, frustration and frustration.
 

Sadly this is the only way GMs can start working.
They cannot find the suspect.
Like you ask policeman to find suspect, where they go find? 

 

For suggestions:
You released macro-able EB after unmacro-able Dungeons/Mining.
Like I suggested in the other topics:
1. If you put Mining random spawn in Hunt Map, so you gonna run around fight mobs instead of fix spot.
2. Then you put Mining anti-KillSteal in Hunt Map, so the same way, only the first party can deal dmg to the same mob. 
3. Then you add Dungeons boss mechanics onto those EB mobs, poison pool to dodge, explode confusion gas to dodge, mana sucking to 0 forcing mana-potting, spear-attack pushing tanker away, etc.

Macro would be dead in EB.

4. for boss same thing, you already have anti-AFK for centlon, just work from that.

 

 

To be honest, you lost like tons of Donators, over the years, because of the feeling they have, like these people feeling. 
I met tons of low-level newbies, after 1-week newbie honeymoon, then go DNT 15x16x. 
Then they discovered the RMT darkness, the macro darkness, the 24hr/7d exp-service darkness, etc. (the higher level you go, the more darkness you see, low-level is the best to enjoy the game)
Most q-u-i-ted less than 1 year of playing. 
They are mostly the kinds of Donators who buy cosmetics, and don't buy exp-service. (if you enjoy buying exp-service, then obviously you stay, otherwise byebye)
You can doubt my judgement, but I'm sure it's the same frustration and hate.
So does all these darkness, which is part of the game ecosystem, make server more profit, or the people who have left?
 

But GMs did a good job on EB, if you remove the macro part.
It's high quality and balanced. Every classes are more equal.

 

Alright.. sharing my thoughts on the deep-rooted problem of this game.

If you think I make things up, you can go ask the hardcore players who started from the beginning, they will share the same thoughts. (I believe)

And to me, Battleground or Titans or whatever, should still be the top-priority to hype up this game.
(I'll stop, no more posting, stop dc-ing or kicking me out of server)

True that but I would like to add that staff needs to punish the people that got caught cheating way harder with permanent ban no care who they are or status in the game just reduce lvl or remove battle exp is not going to satisfy anybody that plays legit or maybe even turn legit players into cheaters since there are hardly any consequences 

[Zetsu~ 86]

Banned all cheaters.... Dont tolerate this banned them, they ruin the server, even they are top player or top donators.. deserve to banned as funishment

Edited April 10, 2024 by Zetsu~

[Sammy24 13]

13 hours ago, Support said:

Please feel free to use our Suggestion board to provide some idea on how we can have an anti AFK system which also don't inconvience everone else who is not AFK as well.

 

this idea its not mine but from pro player hope you read this 

 

ancient weapon a bigger map yes thats the answer of everything anti bot/macro afk and too much buffs

 

when the map is bigger put the one mobs each far from each other but the range of players party still together

 

6 mobs far to each other and the 6 players cant stick together because each mobs far to each other

 

get it @Support@Overlady@Senpai

 

advance welcome not to me but to a pro friend player

[Capybara 506]

15 hours ago, Support said:

Is looting allow?

• The simple answer is NO.
• Regardless of what you think the person is AFK or not, the item is not yours.

Regards,

 

Support

 

 

Sorry, but your statement doesn't make sense.

 

Think about it, drops fall first to the person who kills, and if I'm not mistaken, there's a delay of 10-15 seconds perhaps before it appears to everyone. If the drop belongs to the person who kills, why isn't the appearance of the drop limited only to the killer? For example, I killed a Hopy, the monster's drop would only appear to me; in this case, there wouldn't be a risk of someone passing by and taking it. This is something that could be "changed" in the system, and I imagine that changing the time from 10-15 seconds to unlimited wouldn't be difficult, given the amount of things that have already been done on the server.

[P0C0Y0 130]

Looting is not allowed. But what if a party whit afk people drops a 146 or 148 item. And they don't pick it up.. Should I walk away? Hell no.. I pick it up.. And if someone from that party would pm me and ask item back.. Then I would give it back.. No pm. Sorry it's mine.. 

[Dior 639]

If you are still all waiting for the day for game to be changed, well keep waiting because i gave up.

 

i suggested many suggestions which had much support, but not from Staff.

 

and as i can see it now ? Game Abusers are the reason WE the good players keep DONATING \ Paying ! while they abuse and make us pay.

they are getting paid for Service, they do that for living, while we play for fun.

 

That's it, and there is nothing more i see happening in this server.

my game play dropped lately by 95%, and honestly i don't miss anything. because even if i log, i find my self log out after a quick walk in Ricarten.

 

because everything i would like to do in game has no meaning.

 

Hunting - nonsense.

XP - i reached my own goal.

Caves - only with friends if they are online.

PVP - nonsense 

SOD - ruled by abusers

Mining - not rewarding anymore as before

Bosses hunt - nonsense, same people win all the time

 

[harold 43]

main topic is macro bot

[MadTale 763]

Just imagine how many players are +1 for removing exp agent and other abuses from game... It's fore sure alot more players than we can see in this topic but diff from us they simply leave game forever without asking staff to fix anything. The costumer that simply leaves without complaints is probably the costumer you will NEVER see anymore.

 

Also just imagine how many effort made from staff to develop stuff is being "countered" due the effects of all the bad things together. They make 100points of effort but community reaction is like 20points because -80 points from bad things still around...

 

And worst of all, just imagine how much MONEY server owner never seen it's color because people sad with bad stuff around and leave game.

 

This is what drives me crazy, we are suffering with stuff we dislike while server owner is making LESS MONEY. It just blowns my mind. Things could be the exact reverse.

 

The only times Sandurr made more money because of exp agent existence was at the first momment when it all started and rest of players didn't realize it. But over time ppl started realizing side effects of said stuff and here we are now.

[lucasss 13]

why not remove marcro ? all service workers benefit greatly from this, even in sod there is ! why not remove marcro and let it continue and everyone complains about this ? if you want service, you need to be more diligent to be able to serve exp to others, not as it is now, just sitting down for tea and looking at the screen ...haha ,wwith marco exp is easyy and leisurely.

 

[harold 43]

tonyhoang / noob and others is not big name in wartale ? sadddddd